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FINALLY going to Spain- need a list of must eats

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offthebeatenpath1 Apr 20, 2009 08:45 AM

i will be heading to San Sebastian (2 nights) and Barcelona (3) nights in early June. I need the restaurants that I absolutely have to try. Would love to hope from tapas/pintxos location to location, sampling the best- not too concerns about money, but also don't want to go completely overboard. I know that some of the San Sebastian restauranants have the canned oysters and such that are like $175. I can skip that- I am someone that loves the simple ingredients that are great and fresh and treated well.

Thanks in advance.

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    offthebeatenpath1 Jun 30, 2009 02:49 PM

    well, after much planning and research and dreaming of food, I had to cancel my trip at the last minute, which was horrifyingly disappointing. So, now i am starting all over again and planning to go at a less than ideal time in december.

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      CWoK Jun 20, 2009 03:59 AM

      Probably too late - but Espai Sucre in Barcelona is an absolute MUST! http://tinyurl.com/l6j74h

      1. porker May 10, 2009 09:11 PM

        While in San Sebastian, give kalimotxo a try. Sounds disgusting, but is actually quite good.

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          Querencia Apr 29, 2009 05:27 PM

          Regardless of your choice of restaurants, I would implore you to eat some fresh fruit even if you have to buy it at a street market, take it back to your hotel room, and slice it with your nail file. I have never eaten better fruit than we had during the month of May in Andalucia: unbelievable strawberries, cherries, sweet pineapples, perfect melons, and some nifty little apricot-like fruits called "nisperos" (medlar fruits, had never seen them before).

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          1. re: Querencia
            sparkalina Apr 30, 2009 05:15 AM

            Oh - the melon that looks like a green football w/ white flesh. Wow is that one good. And the giant grapes! Don't forget you can buy a cheap knife at a hardward store as soon as you get into town if you don't want to pack one. Leave it in the hotel room when you leave - it will get put to good use.

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              offthebeatenpath1 Apr 30, 2009 08:44 AM

              Yes- I watched quite attentively the Mario Batali on the Road Again special and one of the things they showed were the unbelievable fruit markets- Coming from NY where there are so many great restaurants, I have learned when traveling not to necessarily look for the best restaurants in each city (b/c they are often similiar to many of the NY restaurant offerings), but instead find the places that specialize in ingredients that aren't necesarily fresh or even available in NY.

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                kathryn May 10, 2009 08:45 PM

                Hey there offthebeatenpath1! I recognize you from the Manhattan board.

                Here's the short list of stuff I'm looking forward to during our trip in July (and hopefully bring some of this back to NY even though customs won't allow jamon, fruits, vegetables, rice):

                jamon iberico de bellota
                blood sausage
                croquetas of all sorts
                Spanish cheese with quince paste
                spanish tortilla
                pan con tomate
                padron hot peppers
                chocolate and churros
                lots of seafood (esp shellfish: a thousand different kinds of clams, squid, octopus, langoustine, lobster, cuttlefish, crab, shrimp, anchovies...)
                olives
                chocolate bars
                canned mussels, clams, etc.
                chorizo
                marcona almonds
                saffron (is it cheaper in Spain than the US?)
                coffee
                horchata
                cava sangria (a friend just went to barcelona and said he drank this a LOT)
                txacoli

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                  Maximilien May 11, 2009 03:57 AM

                  lol

                  I pretty much had the same "diet" when I was in spain last september!

                  I would not "spoil" cava, even cheap one, prepared to make sangria.

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                    kathryn May 11, 2009 08:38 AM

                    It seems like sangria is really more of a novelty and tourist drink in Spain...

                    Maybe I'll just stick to regular cava, ha.

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                      offthebeatenpath1 May 11, 2009 08:43 AM

                      sounds like the world's perfect diet to me- won't do too much good for my waist line, but it's vacation- Thanks kathryn- I have a pretty nice list of restaurants and am really excited. I keep putting off actually making reservations because I feel like I just want to stroll down all of the streets and stop in for tapas or pintxos anyplace there's room, especially in san sebestian. I did, however, succumb to make reservations at Moo and Commerc 24.

                      If you figure out how to smuggle some ham back, let me know. I know it may be dumb, but I think I am going to just relax in Barcelona and not try to be such a planner (unlike paris, which I think I have mapped out by the second).

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                        kathryn May 11, 2009 09:32 AM

                        In San Sebastian, we're already reserved for the heavy hitters: Arzak, Mugaritz, and Asador Extebarri, with a sidetrip to the restaurant inside the Guggenheim, with the rest of the time supplemented with lots and lots of pintxos (looking forward to Alona Berri and La Cuchara de San Telmo after reading tons of reports).

                        For Barcelona, I think we're going to reserve at Hisop and Cinc Sentits, ut leave the really crazy fine dining for San Sebastian. Everything else will be more flexible - but I've got down a list of names/addresses/hours that includes Paco Meralgo, Bar Pinotxo, Kiosko Universal, Quimet y Quimet, Cal Pep, Tabac24, or Inopia dependent upon what we feel like on any given day.

                        I've been reading reports of people getting caught with ham at the airport - I guess they have jamon-sniffing dogs, it's tourist season, officials are on the lookout for people coming back from Spain since it's a highly desirable item, sigh.

                        My friend who travels to Spain a lot thinks it is not worth the effort since the Euro to USD conversion rate isn't too bad right now.

                        http://ask.metafilter.com/88784/How-d...

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                          Frodnesor May 11, 2009 10:05 AM

                          I suspect it's pretty easy to train a jamon-sniffing dog. In fact I already have 2 at home.

                          www.foodforthoughtmiami.com

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                            offthebeatenpath1 May 11, 2009 10:25 AM

                            You have quite a few Barcelona places that I don't. Here is my Barcelona list. I am trying to decide about Arzak- Have heard some people LOVE it and some people say it's ok (perhaps becaue the expectations are so high). I am just looking forward to the great fresh seaside ingredients.

                            Barcelona List
                            Comerc 24- I have a lunch reservation
                            Moo- Dinner reservations
                            Then I will probably just try my luck with these places depending on where I am museum wise.
                            Montesqueiu Restaurant
                            Inopia
                            Espai Sucre
                            cafe de l'academia
                            can majo
                            Bar Pinoxto (in what will probably be a long afternoon of soaking up the boqueria)
                            Patisserie Escriba

                            Then whatever else looks tasty. Like I said, trying not to stress too much on the barcelona leg of the trip, which is a tough thing for me because I hate not planning and feeling like I may be missing something.

                            1. re: offthebeatenpath1
                              Frodnesor May 11, 2009 10:54 AM

                              I was somewhat underwhelmed by Moo on a prior trip.
                              I very much enjoyed Arzak - even if every dish wasn't perfect, the experience overall was wonderful.
                              http://www.foodforthoughtmiami.com/2009/03/restaurante-arzak-san-sebastian.html
                              You may want to consider adding Dos Palillos to your Barcelona list.
                              http://www.foodforthoughtmiami.com/20...

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                                offthebeatenpath1 May 11, 2009 11:07 AM

                                you know, i was really excited when a friend of mine whose judgement I trust said they went to Moo a couple of months ago and were blown away by the creativity and use of ingredients- but I have read from others that, while good, it wasn't knock your socks of good- but, it seems like it has that spanish inventive flair that is worth trying.

                                Thanks for the Arzak post- it seems that is the general sentiment. It is very enjoyable, but doesn't necessarily wow you, but then again, I don't think that is the intention of the place.

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                              rfabs May 12, 2009 10:56 AM

                              I highly recommend Cinc Sentits. The tasting menu there was probably the best meal of my life. Also in Barcelona I'd recommend Casa Calvet, which is in a Gaudi-designed building in L'Eixample. Very good. In San Sebastian, you may want to consider Kursaal, which is one of Martin Beresetegui's restaurants, in a nice spot to the north of the city where the river meets the sea. Another good tasting menu, but not as over the top creative as Arzak or El Bulli or some of the others.

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                                offthebeatenpath1 May 12, 2009 11:26 AM

                                how much is the tasting menu at cinc sentis? i can't find any prices.

                                Thanks

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                                  kathryn May 14, 2009 01:53 PM

                                  I wrote and asked and they said to me:

                                  We offer 2 tasting menus and a prix fix at lunch and dinner. The 6-course Essència is 46€, the 8-course Sensacions is 65€ and the 4-course "prix fixe" is 65€.

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                                    offthebeatenpath1 May 14, 2009 02:00 PM

                                    Thanks.- Great to know. That is really quite reasonable.

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                                      kathryn May 14, 2009 02:26 PM

                                      Definitely! I was looking around for some nicer, upscale lunches (saving dinners for more casual places) and found that Cinc Sentits, Alkimia, Hisop, Gresca, and Moo were the most reasonable.

                                      Hisop is only 25€ for lunch! Gresca is around there, too, 18-20€ I think? Moo is pretty affordable as their 45€ lunch includes coffee and wine. Alkimia was 32€, 54€, or 68€ dependent upon the menu.

                                      Whereas Gaig is something like 80€, Abac is 125€ for the tasting, Comerc 24 is 62€ or 84€ for tasting menus.

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                                        offthebeatenpath1 May 14, 2009 02:34 PM

                                        i am actually going to moo for dinner, but definitely thought about doing it for lunch. In the end, i decided on Comerc 24 for lunch and Moo for dinner. That will sort of be my splurge day. There are definitely good deals to be found for lunch. I am planning on making a reservation at cinc sentis and gresca on friday for lunch and dinner.

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                                          kathryn May 14, 2009 04:06 PM

                                          Regardless, your trip sounds amazing so far! I trust you shall report back to the Chowhound hive mind?

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                                            dietndesire May 14, 2009 10:00 PM

                                            In case it makes a difference, Commerc 24 is the same price/menu for lunch and dinner. Since many plan lunches at pricier spots that offer less pricy lunch menus, figured I would mention it.
                                            One poor dish out of them all(too novel, being wacky to be wacky, what can go wrong when making "new" dishes for their own sake).
                                            That is one out of many, the rest were good to really good, possibly excellent.
                                            Staff was cool, space is cool.

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                                              kathryn May 15, 2009 08:21 AM

                                              Yes - from what my emails to the restaurant lead me to believe is that Gaig, Abac, and Comer24 have the same options for lunch and dinner (no menu del dia or affordable lunch prix fixe).

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                                                offthebeatenpath1 May 15, 2009 08:42 AM

                                                i did know that about comerc24- i found the dinner menu at moo to be more enticing (even though it's more money), which is why I opted for dinner at moo and lunch at comerc24.

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                                            babaganoushface May 29, 2009 07:14 AM

                                            Abac sucked!!!

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                                    offthebeatenpath1 May 12, 2009 01:53 PM

                                    Any thoughts on a place near the Hotel Arts on the waterfront that is reasonable? I have Can Majo on my list, but Iam thinking someplace less expensive and casual in that area for lunch.

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                                      rcinsf May 19, 2009 06:14 PM

                                      Great choices! Hopefully you've spaced out the SS heavy hitters so you'll be able to enjoy them. We had Extebarri scheduled for lunch and Arzak for dinner, and had to cancel Arzak because we were stuffed after eating an absolutely amazing lunch at Extebarri (we let the chef create a menu for us, and it was incredible). Definitely in the Top Three meals of my lifetime. Mugaritz was good, the ambiance wonderful and the service superb, but the food didn't wow us.

                                      In Barcelona, we enjoyed more casual dining, with Cal Pep and Kiosko Universal providing delightful meals. Superfresh grilled seafood, just cooked through, with some olive oil, parsley, squeeze of lemon...absolute perfection.

                                      Only downside is there are smokers everywhere!

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                                        kathryn May 19, 2009 09:42 PM

                                        My itinerary in San Sebastian is to put one big fine dining meal for lunch so we can digest and then have dinner (and upscale/downscale how much we eat!) at a tapas bar.

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                                      Shooley May 13, 2009 05:07 AM

                                      Would love to see your plans for Paris: we just got back from Spain, and I want to surprise my husband with a 10th anniversary trip to Paris: if you can, send me stuff at sherijorden@gmail.com

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                                        offthebeatenpath1 May 13, 2009 06:56 AM

                                        Shooley- Here is my rough itinerary for Paris (i know, this is a Spain Board).- It was much more military like, but my friend insisted on not being so regiments- in fact, he had his way, we wouldn't plan a thing and I would go nuts. Originally, I Tuesday, I had lunch reservations at Le Bristol, but decided to just enjoy the time more by strolling around and sampling the simple Parisian things- crepes, chocolates, etc. I did a lot of research though, so if you need suggestions, let me knkow.

                                        Arrive in Paris via train from London at 11:45

                                        -1:15p- Lunch at Brasserie Lipp followed by a short stroll over to Laduree for some macarons
                                        - Musee D’orsay- 62 Rue de Lille, 7th
                                        - Walk to the Eiffel tower and shop/look around, etc (etc. meaning eat )
                                        -Musee du Quai Branly time permitting- 37, Quai Branly
                                        - 7:30p- dinner at Bon Accueil Au (14, Rue de Montessuy, 7th)
                                        -Drinks at l’Hotel (13, Rue des Beaux-Arts, 6th)
                                        - SLEEP- I am staying at the Hotel Michelot Odeon- I tend to stay at nicer brand name hotels, but wanted something with more Parisian character and it is very reasonably price

                                        TUESDAY
                                        -Breakfast at Gerard Mulot
                                        -Stroll around the Jardin du Lexembourg (maybe stop at Bread and Roses for a little bite as well)
                                        -Metro over to Musee National Picasso (5, Rue Thorigny, 3rd)
                                        -Do a nice walking tour of the 3rd for lunch (breizh café for crepes, Pozzeto for gelato, Au Levain du Marais for bakery, La Chocolaterie Jacques Genin for chocolates, Ble Sucre (a little out of the way in the 11th, but I will need the walk) for madeleines- This will really be our eating through Paris time
                                        - Stroll around Notre Dame for a bit
                                        - Head all the way over to the 14th for a long dinner at Le Regalade with old friends- 34, Rue des Plantes

                                        WEDNESDAY
                                        -Breakfast at Le Bar du Marche- 75 Rue de Seine, 6th
                                        - Sadly head to the airport to head to Barcelona

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                                          Shooley May 22, 2009 06:06 PM

                                          Thank you OTBP!

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                                    Delucacheesemonger Jun 14, 2009 04:39 AM

                                    Great list, only things not on your that are on mine are octopus in Gallicia, churros fresh made everywhere with hot chocolate, baby lamb/pig/goat, and blue cheeses in Asturias. Is it true you cannot bring back rice anymore? Always bring a sack or two of Bomba on return.

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                                      MOREKASHA Jun 14, 2009 05:52 AM

                                      You can bring back Fabes from Asturias, One the best pulpo we had was in Ourense, for atmosphere the best pulpo was at the Sunday market for breakfast in Padron. It's worth a detour.

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                                        Delucacheesemonger Jun 16, 2009 12:15 PM

                                        l go to Padron for the peppers alone, no detour. Thanks

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                                          dietndesire Jun 19, 2009 01:12 PM

                                          Deluca, stop scooping the best of all the world's edible delights.
                                          Your cup runneth over.

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                                            Delucacheesemonger Jun 21, 2009 03:09 PM

                                            As well as my beltline

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                                  butterfly May 11, 2009 04:27 AM

                                  Nísperos are loquats...

                                3. jcmods Apr 27, 2009 11:02 AM

                                  In Barcelona. Sit at the counter in the Bocqueria market and order the shrimp with the heads on. Best shrimp I ever ate. Can't believe nobody else mentioned it.

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                                    offthebeatenpath1 Apr 27, 2009 11:54 AM

                                    I wish I could, believe me, but I have two allergies to food- cranberries and shrimp. Trust me, if my throat didn't close up as a result, I would consider taking the risk.

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                                    CMT Apr 25, 2009 04:37 AM

                                    See NY Times link below...this week`s travel section

                                    http://travel.nytimes.com/2009/04/26/...

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                                      offthebeatenpath1 Apr 27, 2009 09:26 AM

                                      Thanks. I saw that this weekend. I just hope now everyone doesn't flock to Barcelona, although I have a feeling people already knew it was there.

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                                      baltguy Apr 22, 2009 06:21 PM

                                      The one thing I prefer to eat in all the world is roast baby lamb--cordero asado. But only in Spain , and roasted in a wood fired oven. It's one of the dishes one cannot--to my knowledge-- ever enjoy in the USA because here lambs are never slaughtered that young.

                                      As with all my dining away from home, I like to eat what is not available to be eaten at home.

                                      1. MOREKASHA Apr 22, 2009 05:33 PM

                                        I spent a week in SS 2 years ago and did not have a bad meal or tapa. My faves;
                                        1- Asador Ganbara, had a great lunch, neck of merluza, If memory serves me right (and it may not) the dining room is in the basement. 2-Astelana, great tapas of fois 3-La Cepa, mushrooms of course + 4-La Cuchara de San Telmo, canoli of morcilla. Hard to find, around the corner from where you think it is, off a little square. Worth it. In SS drink Txakoli, don't know if you'll find other whites but....I prefer the Txakoli from Getaria over all others. Also, they love their Jamon + their Rioja here. Many, many places in Spain serve canned goods. No, it's not like the US, the stuff is usally good. However, I dont recall any of that in SS and no tapa places that were big $. SS does have some Tapas places that do really great inventive plates, that's the culture there. Don't worry, the ingredients are great and there are places that just serve simple dishes,grilled mushrooms (in season) etc... Go for sit down meals @ lunch and tapa hop @ night in the old 1/4.

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                                          offthebeatenpath1 Apr 22, 2009 11:24 AM

                                          I searched around and have looked at magazines and such, but what neighborhood do you think in general is the best foodie neighborhood in Barcelona? Trying to plan a hotel and would love to stay in a place populated with great restaurants/tapas bars.

                                          THanks again.

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                                            Frodnesor Apr 22, 2009 12:30 PM

                                            Did you happen to come across this thread which asks the same exact question?

                                            Best Barcelona Food Neighborhood
                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/592834

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                                              offthebeatenpath1 Apr 22, 2009 12:39 PM

                                              you are a much better searcher than I...Thank you, that is perfect.

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                                            CMT Apr 21, 2009 08:19 AM

                                            Fiirst, make sure to see the Guggenheim museum in Bilbao (easy excursion) for food for the eyes and soul......then have lunch at the downtown restaurant that has Michelin star or 2 depending on which edition you have...(think it was Gorrotxa.....popular w/locals)
                                            Enjoy some Roda I or Roda II wine

                                            1. Frodnesor Apr 21, 2009 07:51 AM

                                              There is a wealth of information on SS and Barcelona on this board if you search or just browse.

                                              The tapas bars in SS are generally excelent, though the standout for me was Aloña Berri in Barrio Gros. I also liked Casa Senra nearby. I have more notes on SS tapas here ->
                                              http://www.foodforthoughtmiami.com/2009/03/pintxos-in-san-sebastian.html
                                              The website todopintxos.com is also a great resource, with addresses, maps, specialties, and even "routes" to follow.

                                              In Barcelona I enjoyed Paco Meralgo (a classy tapas bar; beautiful seafood) and Dos Palillos (Asian-style tapas from former El Bulli Chef de Cuisine Albert Raurich), and also Cuines Santa Caterina, but I don't know that I'd describe any of them as "have to try" places. These are my Barcelona notes ->
                                              http://www.foodforthoughtmiami.com/search/label/Barcelona

                                              www.foodforthoughtmiami.com

                                              1. npwest Apr 20, 2009 01:13 PM

                                                My favorites were La Cuchara de San Telmo in San Sebastian and Cal Pep in Barcelona, both low attitude places with high-end food. And the are both really tiny places, too, but personal space is always compromised in Spain, anyway...

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