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Apr 15, 2009 03:17 PM

Is there such a thing as Al Pastor...

but made from Beef/

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  1. Not that I know of...but there is such a thing as: pollo al pastor. It's spatchcocked and marinated chicken, skewered onto a long stick and roasted over a wood fire. Where I live in Mexico, these chickens are fairly common.


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    1. re: cristina

      cool, than ks. are there any beef ones too? if you can rack your brain.

      1. re: cristina

        So, where, if anywhere, in LA can I get pollo al pastor (which, to my limited Spanish, seems paradoxical...) ? How different is it from, say Pollo Loco in its original 6th and Alvarado c. 1982 form?

      2. I'll bet there must be some that have adobado marinated beef and chicken. Then again, I'm always surprised by the lack of seasoning on taqueria meats besides pork here in LA.

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        1. re: a_and_w

          yeah, because if the beef were on a spit (like a shwarma/gyro/doner) it would be highly season, and to get that in taco like a cross between a middle eastern dish and a mexican dish would just be awesome. i believe they serve lebanese kibbe in the Yucatan (i.e. chichen itza), is there a significant number of lebanese expats in that area of Mexico.???

          1. re: kevin

            Although it's usually pork when just referred to as al pastor, you can al pastor whatever you like.Pollo works and you can find this in Mexico.I had a taco de salmon al pastor at a restaurant in TJ once with a crepe thin tortilla filled with salmon al pastor,onion and pineapple, with a shot of sweet salsa on the outside.

            Beef wouldn't work as well as pork, poultry, or seafood, though.Quail al pastor, delicious!

            The Lebanese immigrant population is in many parts of Mexico, kibbes, tacos, arabes, and al pastor are some of their contributions to Mexican gastronomy.Carlos Slim, the richest man in Mexico and only behind Bill Gates is the son of Lebanese immigrants.Most arrived in the early 20th century.

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          1. Al pastor reffers to the technique "country style". A vinegar and chili sause is used on the meat that might be a little "ripe' so to speak.

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            1. re: Brandon Nelson

              I realize we're risking getting moved to a different topic, but I thought "al pastor" was "shepherd's style", which is why I thought chicken duck or fish al pastor were kinda funny. You know, like: ,"trying to get this committee to accomplish anything is kinda like herding chickens..."

            2. In the Rio Grande Valley, Al Pastor refers to a splayed cabrito (young goat), roasted whole on a cross-shaped spit in front of an open fire. Which makes a lot more sense to me than pork, chicken, or anything else (pastor = shepherd). But then again, nobody asked me.

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              1. re: alanbarnes

                Right. "Shepherd style" as in how shepherds would cook when out in the fields with their flocks: over an open fire.

                1. re: Ruth Lafler

                  Although you're right about how shepherds are likely to cook things, I was thinking more in terms of **what** they'd cook. When you've far from home keeping an eye on a flock of sheep or goats, you've got your meat right there; it doesn't make sense to leave them unsupervised while you run to the grocery for some pork...

                  1. re: alanbarnes

                    True. On the other hand, you're supposed to be *watching* the sheep, not eating them! While it might be practical to slaughter and cook a whole goat or lamb, a whole sheep is a much bigger production.

                    Besides, when you kill a sheep in front of the others, doesn't that make the rest of them nervous? I was once out on some grazing land when the farmer came to take a cow and her newborn calf back to the barn, and the rest of the cows in the herd came up on the road where the mama cow was making fuss about being separated from her calf while being loaded in the carrier. They stood there looking quite threatening. Actually, it felt a little like something out of a Far Side cartoon! The farmer looked over and said, Oh yes, this is a very close-knit herd -- the one in front is, I think, her sister.

                2. re: alanbarnes

                  You are right.The cabrito al pastor which I've had in Monterey among other places in Nuevo Leon is amazing, and quite different from the paste prep used on pork, or other common meats used.