610782 Thu Apr 09 10:09:04 -0700 2009 26 2 Los Angeles Area 0 4581442 I've been craving these lately, and want to venture out of my comfort zone (Yung Ho or Har Lam Kee) and hopefully find better versions (HLK's version, particularly, has gone downhill as of late) so want to see what you 'hounds can recommend for the best zha liangs, whether in a dim sum place or a casual Chinese breakfast/lunch spot. Thanks! ~H.C. http://la-oc-foodie.blogspot.com Thu Apr 09 10:09:04 -0700 2009 11949 AquaW 1 4581445 check yi mei. they should have it. Thu Apr 09 10:10:01 -0700 2009 4581442 10704 wilafur 2 4581475 Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! Yi Mei also makes the finest "dan bing" and "mi jiang" in the SGV. Thu Apr 09 10:17:12 -0700 2009 4581445 11583 ipsedixit 3 4582372 Thanks wilafur, ipsedixit. I can't believe my SGV Hounds never told me about this place! This sounds great. Thu Apr 09 14:22:23 -0700 2009 4581475 113442 exilekiss 3 4582681 AND WHAT WOULD "dan bing" and "mi jiang" BE? TIA, Bob Thu Apr 09 16:05:18 -0700 2009 4581475 11732 Ciao Bob 4 4582728 dan bing = kinda like an egg burrito mi jiang = rice/sesame paste soup thingy.....i think. Thu Apr 09 16:18:25 -0700 2009 4582681 10704 wilafur 5 4583557 Yup, except that "mi jiang" is peanut rice milk. Unless you grew up on it, most likely you'll find it rather "off-tasting". Thu Apr 09 22:46:55 -0700 2009 4582728 11583 ipsedixit 6 4584575 thanks for the correction. Fri Apr 10 10:01:07 -0700 2009 4583557 10704 wilafur 2 4582124 Yes. Thu Apr 09 13:12:00 -0700 2009 4581445 10811 Das Ubergeek 2 4582527 Cool, I didn't know they have rice sheet-wrapped youtiaos too, and I've been there for years for their rice-minced/dried pork-youtiao rolls (which are also tasty). Thanks! Maybe I can do a side-by-side comparison (literally) with Silver&Gold Amazing next door ;) ~H.C. http://la-oc-foodie.blogspot.com Thu Apr 09 15:13:11 -0700 2009 4581445 11949 AquaW 2 4582974 Hmmm...I've never noticed that Yi-Mei makes Zha Liang because you usually find them in dim sum places as opposed to Taiwanese deli such as Yi-Mei. I know they make Fan Tuan, steamed sticky rice (not rice shee) wrapped around Chinese Doughnut, which is probably the best around. Actually almost everything from Yi-Mei is very good. Thu Apr 09 18:08:22 -0700 2009 4581445 15633 fdb 3 4584547 my thoughts exactly - I know about (and love) Yi-Mei's Fan Tuan, didn't know they make Zha Liang as well... guess something for me to look into this weekend! If they don't have it, I can always swing next door to Silver&Gold Amazing to try their version. ~H.C. http://la-oc-foodie.blogspot.com Fri Apr 10 09:51:38 -0700 2009 4582974 11949 AquaW 2 4828308 We just came back from Yi-Mei this afternoon, and no zha liang to be had. :( Fri Jul 03 19:04:05 -0700 2009 4581445 11955 silleehillee 1 4581457 Good 'n cheap at Yum Cha Cafe. Thu Apr 09 10:11:29 -0700 2009 4581442 10282 Chelmoon 2 4582964 Zha Liang from Yum Cha Cafe is cheap but not very good. Their you-tiau is not crunchy. Elite and The Kitchen make much higher quality ones. NBC also has pretty good ones. Thu Apr 09 18:04:05 -0700 2009 4581457 15633 fdb 3 4583549 fdb -- I agree with you that "Yum Cha Cafe is cheap but not very good," but my main objection with Yum Cha is that nothing is served hot. Everything we ordered that was supposed to be hot was cool to luke-warm. The items appeared to be rapidly coming from the kitchen fresh and hot, but it all tasted tired and old. How could that be? It looks so good! Thu Apr 09 22:35:47 -0700 2009 4582964 14014 liu 4 4583561 Odd, never had that problem before. Although to be honest with you, most of the "dim sum" type items at Yum Cha should not be eating piping hot. Lukewarm is about right. Thu Apr 09 22:48:36 -0700 2009 4583549 11583 ipsedixit 5 4585876 Always nice to hear from you, ipsedixit! Thanks for your input on my issue with the temperature of these dim sum items. Fri Apr 10 17:45:15 -0700 2009 4583561 14014 liu 1 4594639 Yum Cha Cafe: poor. Elite dim sum: excellent Yung Ho: pretty damn good Har Lam Kee: pretty damn good Silver and Gold Amazing: Freaking perfect gorgeous supple crunchy wonder. Tue Apr 14 10:03:16 -0700 2009 4581442 14404 Thi N. 2 4594752 You should check out Yi Mei sometime Thi. Yung Ho used to be sooo damn good. Alas, a change of ownership is never good for food stability. Tue Apr 14 10:36:36 -0700 2009 4594639 11583 ipsedixit 3 4594770 Yi Mei I love - but I love the sort of dense deep rice supple-yet-grainy thing of the ones at Silver and Gold Amazing even more. I was just at Yi Mei - the one at San Gabriel Superstore - slurping down some soy and dumplings, last Friday. Which Yung Ho changed? The Yung Ho on New (?), or the one to the east... Yung Ho Tou Chien? That one's been my favorite for a while. Tue Apr 14 10:44:38 -0700 2009 4594752 14404 Thi N. 4 4594816 Yung Ho King Tou Chiang. Original owner sold the joint because of health problems; been probably about 2 years now since the change in ownership. Back in the day the "tsao-bing" was nice and chewy (almost al dente, if you will) but still crisp and flaky -- if that's possible. It was in this case. And with a golden fried cruller nestled in the middle, and a big bowl of soy broth to wash it all down with, I was more than happy to beg my doctor for an extra scrip (or two) of Lipitor ... Tue Apr 14 10:58:33 -0700 2009 4594770 11583 ipsedixit 4 4595029 Yi Mei at the San Gabriel Superstore became Yee May a couple of years ago. I presumed that meant a new owner and perhaps a new operation. Can anybody confirm? Tue Apr 14 11:50:58 -0700 2009 4594770 10131 Chandavkl 2 4595054 Thanks, tried the S&G version this past weekend and it's really good. Yung Ho has regressed a bit recently, the youtiao (by themselves or in a zhaliang) came out way too oily in my last few trips there. I'm all for freshly-fried, but would prefer a little draining/soaking up before it lands on my plate. ~H.C. http://la-oc-foodie.blogspot.com Tue Apr 14 11:57:10 -0700 2009 4594639 11949 AquaW 3 4595414 i stopped going to both young ho tou jiangs due to the cruller grease issue you experienced in addition to the slight smell of ammonia. no bueno. Tue Apr 14 13:31:25 -0700 2009 4595054 10704 wilafur 4 4595911 S&GA's version is pretty shockingly greaseless, given that it's a donut in the center. Tue Apr 14 15:56:40 -0700 2009 4595414 14404 Thi N. 4 4596079 agreed. i find their yo tiao to be excessively greasy. and i know they're fried. i prefer yi mei. Tue Apr 14 16:40:48 -0700 2009 4595414 90804 lakeshow318