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  <id>610121</id>
  <title>Cold brewing coffee without grinding</title>
  <published_at>Mon Apr 06 23:34:33 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>12</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>31</id>
    <name>Home Cooking</name>
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        <id>4573981</id>
        <content>I was recently told that I can cold brew coffee using just whole beans with no need to grind.  This doesn't sound right to me, and I can't find any information on this method.  Just wanted to see if anyone here has heard of anything like this.</content>
        <published_at>Mon Apr 06 23:34:33 -0700 2009</published_at>
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          <id>107374</id>
          <name>bmorecupcake</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4574385</id>
      <content>Nope. The hot water, I theorize, softens and aids in the release of the beans goodness. 

there are such things as cold brew teas but those are specially processed.

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      <published_at>Tue Apr 07 06:43:24 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4573981</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>280211</id>
        <name>BettinaAuSucre</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4577790</id>
      <content>I don't know about whole bean,but here is  a method of cold brewing coffee
http://www.ineedcoffee.com/06/coldhome/

Please note that this method works better with robusta beans then arabica.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 08 07:01:25 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4573981</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>274513</id>
        <name>wallyz</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4577848</id>
      <content>Um ... because some of us thinks it produces a better cup of coffee?  I personally like cold brew a whole lot better than the traditional method (and cancer be damned).

I've never heard of a cold brew with whole beans, but you don't need to grind your beans that fine to do a cold brew.  I usually just give a few good buzz instead of doing the smaller grind necessary for the old percolator.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 08 07:30:06 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4577834</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17410</id>
        <name>Ali</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4577951</id>
      <content>After receiving a bottle of "Cool Brew" as a gift I tried making my own.  Don't get me wrong, Cool Brew made delicious iced coffee but was expensive to purchase and ultimately making my own cold brew was simple.

Not grinding the beans would produce dark water not coffee.  What would be released from a tightly sealed bean?

I grind robust beans at a french press setting and soak the grinds in cool water overnight.  Strained of the grind in the morning, I wind up with a dark concentrate of coffee that I then dilute with water, cream, vanilla syrup, ice.  A weeks worth of iced tea from one 8 cup french press.

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      <published_at>Wed Apr 08 07:55:02 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4573981</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>36312</id>
        <name>HillJ</name>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4579459</id>
      <content>A weeks worth of iced tea from one 8 cup french press.
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My bad, I meant to say a weeks worth of iced COFFEE... :)</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 08 15:47:05 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4577951</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>36312</id>
        <name>HillJ</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4579509</id>
      <content>how many beans--same qty that you would normally grind for the regular volume of water? sounds interesting. Is this like 'Toddy'?

I've been double-dripping my coffee. Coarse grind, soak groundswith about 1/3 c heated water, then  after 1 minute, pour rest of hot water over, then pour dripped coffee back through grounds.  M-M good. nice &amp; rich.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 08 16:02:05 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4579459</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11234</id>
        <name>toodie jane</name>
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    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4579577</id>
      <content>hi toodie jane, what  a nice eco-friendly coffee method you have going!  I use the spent grounds as mulch in the garden.

eta:  There is a woman on a CHOW Tips video recommending old coffee grounds as a facial scrub....I'd be too afraid to tear up my skin doing that!

As for the grind quantity, yes!, same as I would measure out for the completed iced coffees total liquid volume.  I am basically making a strong coffee sluree which is then completed with the addition of water, cream, vanilla syrup to make my iced coffee.   Then served with ice cubes.  </content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 08 16:31:14 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4579509</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>36312</id>
        <name>HillJ</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4579606</id>
      <content>I used to LOVE Cool Brew, but can't get it now that I've from away from Louisiana (unless I order it online).  I've started making my old cold-brewed coffee as well, and I'm pretty happy with it.  
I'm an iced coffee addict, especially with the warmer weather coming, so I make a half pitcher at a time.  For every cup of ground coffee (currently I'm using French Roast), I add 3 cups of cold water and let it sit for 12 hours.  It's pretty good.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 08 16:37:38 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4577951</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>127276</id>
        <name>MyySharona</name>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4579631</id>
      <content>Agree on all counts MyySh!  Lots of flexibility with a home cold brew too.  I've enjoyed adding the flavored syrups to change it up a bit.  Or I add the syrups to the ice cube tray as a variation.

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      <published_at>Wed Apr 08 16:42:47 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4579606</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>36312</id>
        <name>HillJ</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4580445</id>
      <content>Hmmm ... an April Fool's joke?
Unless you have a very large of money
to waste, you should listen no further
to whoever told you this.

It would take a very large amount of beans
to give you more than slightly flavored
water,</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 08 23:28:24 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4573981</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>55316</id>
        <name>mpalmer6c</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>5206115</id>
      <content>quite amazing that someone would tell you that, because someone recently told me the same thing.  as a cold brewed coffee aficionado, i felt obligated to learn more through experiment :)  here are my findings:

using dark roast beans and soaking them for 12 hours at room temperature resulted in a beverage that i found enjoyable.  it was amber colored rather than black, but had some of the flavor of coffee, as well as some amount of caffeine judging by its effects on me.  i postulate that it contains a lot of the oils from the beans, since in a dark roast these are brought to the surface.

i then dried the beans out in order to grind them and then put them in for another 12 hour soak.  my reasoning was that i would be able to tell which components of the coffee are extractable by using the whole bean and which require grinding.  the resulting beverage looked just like coffee, but tasted slightly stale.  this might be due to the drying process and could possibly be circumvented by grinding the beans wet in a mortar, which would be adequate since a coarse grind is desirable anyway.  this beverage also still contained caffeine, but as for the relative amount in each batch, i couldn't say.

so there you have it.  i would recommend trying the whole bean brewing, because the result is quite tasty, and quite different from regularly brewed coffee.  on the other hand, i would not adopt it as my default method because it does waste a lot of what i like in coffee.  more experiments need to be performed, such as the wet grinding mentioned above, as well as using whole beans in hot brewing.  also, i would expect different results if not using dark roast.

i hope this helps :)</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 24 15:43:45 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4573981</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1127220</id>
        <name>dollardeth</name>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5206781</id>
      <content>Well done, dollardeth.  I think there's a job waiting for you at Cook's Illustrated.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 24 21:25:33 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5206115</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>53530</id>
        <name>Zeldog</name>
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