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How much, as a percentage of the bill, is appropriate? Pre-tax or after tax? I just for back form there and we were amazed at the 12.5% combined federal and provincial tax.

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  1. There are a lot of discussions about tipping on the Not About Food section of this site;
    some american states have high taxes also.

    For good service, I tip 15% on the taxed amount, which works out to approx 17.5%,
    based on a 100$ bill for example.

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    1. re: superbossmom

      For a good service, I tip also about 15% of the total amount, and about 18-20% for an excellent service.

      1. re: superbossmom

        SuperBossmom--I know of no US state were tax on a food bill is 12.5%. The highest in the US that I've experienced is New Orleans and Chicago. I hear Tennesee is high. But none of the foregoing is 12.5%. Most US states have taxes below NYC, which is where I dine the most. Which states are you referring to? Just curious. Also, that's an interesting math calculation you are using :)--I assume you are attempting comparing post vs pre-tax tipping--but you didn't say. My question was specific to Montreal standards.

      2. It is my understanding that unless the service is terrible, you should really tip a minimum of 15% on the pre-tax amount, and if the service is good, you should lean closer to 20%. Servers in Montreal, unlike most (all?) other Canadian cities, are personally taxed on a percentage of their total sales, regardless of how much they are actually tipped, so they take home less than whatever it is that you give them, and when tipped poorly, often end up having to pay out of pocket.

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        1. re: chililala

          chililala took the the words right out of my keyboard.

          1. re: SnackHappy

            Don't forget that they're also usually tipping out between 2 and 4% on the pre-tax amount to the kitchen/bar no matter what you tip them also.

            1. re: SnackHappy

              This exactly the Montreal-specific type of info that I was looking for--thanks very much. I am glad we tipped appropriately. What made me ask was that I didn't see many tips being left on the table where I saw cashed being used.

              1. re: Ora

                That's because people are cheap here, especially compared with the U.S. or other provinces, where more and more people are tipping 18-20% as the going rate. Just my honest observation.

                And yes, the taxes on food & drink are ridiculous; not even comparable to the U.S.

                Similar rules of thumb and taxation rates in Ontario, fyi.

                1. re: everyonelovessushi

                  I didn't mean they would be as high as Montreal, but anything over 8% is still high, Chicago being at 9.75% .