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Coffee shops, great breakfasts and solo dining in san diego

cherrie_333 Apr 5, 2009 04:42 PM

Visiting San Diego in a few weeks for a conference. Staying downtown on W. Broadway and will not have a car. Any recommendations for good breakfast spots, coffee shops and restaurants for small plate, happy hour-type solo dining at the bar would be greatly appreciated. Open to walking 2 miles each way or taking public transportation.

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  1. goodhealthgourmet RE: cherrie_333 Apr 5, 2009 05:38 PM


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      Bobierto RE: cherrie_333 Apr 9, 2009 10:53 AM

      Hob Nob Hill for an old time breakfast joint vibe, just up First Avenue from downtown.

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        tavmark RE: Bobierto Apr 9, 2009 09:44 PM

        For coffee (not food) - Unity at 450 Broadway (small kiosk but really good coffee) and the Italian gelato place at the corner of Cedar and Columbia (?) - I know it's on Cedar. One word and starts with a "p" but I'm drawing a blank on the full name. The best espresso in town.

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          DiningDiva RE: tavmark Apr 10, 2009 08:10 AM

          Papplecco's is at Cedar & State. Not only is there espresso very good, they've got the best gelato in town.

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            Ewilensky RE: DiningDiva Apr 10, 2009 09:37 AM

            x2. Good sandwiches as well.

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        cherrie_333 RE: cherrie_333 Apr 10, 2009 10:14 AM

        Thank you all for your input.

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          Bobierto RE: cherrie_333 Apr 10, 2009 12:19 PM

          Cafe 222 is also walking distance from you and is really popular for breakfast. As for happy hours there was a recent string on happy hours in San Diego, there are lot around downtown so do a search on that ... a favorite happy hour of mine is Prado in Balboa Park, that is probably just within your 2-mile walking radius. Stout Pub downtown has good bar food, and Downtown Charlie Brown's is a good burger & beer kind of place. These are all more downscale. For more upscale, find that post! (Oops except Prado, that's pretty elegant but good happy hour deals.)

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            sdnosh RE: Bobierto Apr 10, 2009 06:05 PM

            I'll second Cafe 222 for breakfast or lunch and add The Mission in east village. The Mission is a little further away but good. Also good in that area for breakfast, lunch or dinner is Cafe Chloe and Zanzibar. I would have to respectfully disagree with both Hob Nob and Prado. Hob Nob was a decent throwback 20 years ago, now its a throw away. The Prado is an overpriced tourist trap. It's a beautiful restaurant and the menu sounds good but the kitchen never delivers.

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              Bobierto RE: sdnosh Apr 11, 2009 05:22 PM

              I emphatically agree about the Mission, haven't been to the East Village location so it's not on my mental map but is a great choice for the poster. The Pacific Beach and North Park spots are favorites for me. And now that we have given cherie all these other great picks let's agree to take Hob Nob Hill off the list. Haven't been there i years ... please note for Prado I specified the happy hour, when the prices on small plates are great and a woman dining alone will feel very comfortable in the bar. It is a beautiful place, stylish yet casual, I have only been there a couple of times but a couple of years ago for my birthday the kitchen delivered spectacularly. Maybe they've slid but I think the happy hour is a good pick = try those crab cakes! But thanks for the input.

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                ibstatguy RE: Bobierto Apr 13, 2009 08:59 PM

                sorry but I have to concur with sdnosh regarding Prado. I go to Hob Nob but only because its very close to my office. I'm amazed that the "movers and shakers" still go there but they do.

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                  Josh RE: ibstatguy Apr 14, 2009 03:28 PM

                  Hob Nob Hill makes me move and shake in all the wrong ways.

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                    normalheightsfoodie RE: Josh Apr 14, 2009 08:36 PM

                    The Hob Nob is an institition that has never failed to satisfy. They have great service, and regardless of whom you might be, the treat everyone with respect. I have been there with my kids as well as movers and shakers and the food is always very good.

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                      Josh RE: normalheightsfoodie Apr 15, 2009 12:37 AM

                      I dunno, I used to live right near there, and after 3 really poor meals I never could understand the popularity.

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                        Fake Name RE: Josh Apr 15, 2009 05:23 AM

                        It's another one of those great-place-except-for-the-food. I used to take our son there when he was 3 or 4 on Sunday mornings so Mom could sleep. They were very gracious to us, and he started learning more about numbers by watching the waitress board. But the food's just not that great. Better than Perry's, though, and good for a "kicking it old school" early breakfast meeting. And not a single rosemary twig in the place- a big plus.

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                          normalheightsfoodie RE: Fake Name Apr 16, 2009 08:11 PM

                          The coffee cake is great. They offer pecans and raisins with oatmeal. The Primerib Hash is great.

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                    Ewilensky RE: ibstatguy Apr 14, 2009 03:48 PM

                    Prado IS a tourist trap, but she's a tourist afterall and after a day at Balboa Park the Prado serves its purpose: a nice cocktail and appetizer makes a perfectly decent pick-me-up after a day tromping around the zoo, especially sitting on the patio.

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                      ibstatguy RE: Ewilensky Apr 14, 2009 08:20 PM

                      then at least suggest she also go up to Bertrand's for a drink and take in the view; its only a hop skip and jump away

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                        Ewilensky RE: ibstatguy Apr 15, 2009 08:50 AM

                        See, I like the ambience of the Prado much more than Bertrand's but then I work in the top floor of a downtown building do the views are nothing new to me. I think a sandwich to-go at Point Loma Seafood and then a quick trip to the Cabrillo lighthouse affords some of the best views (and tasty food) San Diego can offer...

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                          ibstatguy RE: Ewilensky Apr 15, 2009 01:47 PM

                          my point was more geared to the fact that you were sending her up to Bertrand's neighborhood and she could thus quite easily do both. I certainly won't argue with a sandwich at Pt Loma Seafood and a trip out to the lighthouse.

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                            Bobierto RE: Ewilensky Apr 15, 2009 02:53 PM

                            I'm with you there. The drive out to Cabrillo is probably the best view in town. Amused by all the banter about Prado ... but Ewilensky got where I was coming from ...

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                  deckape RE: Bobierto Apr 10, 2009 07:17 PM

                  Ummm, that would be Downtown "Johnny" Brown's...

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                    Bobierto RE: deckape Apr 11, 2009 05:18 PM

                    Yikes! How the heck did I do that?! Thanks for the correction.

                3. Fake Name RE: cherrie_333 Apr 11, 2009 06:10 PM

                  I have to both respectfully and emphatically disagree about the Mission. I've been very disappointed at both the North Park and the downtown locations. The North Park one, last time I went (it was over a year ago) was filthy, with sticky and black threadbare upholstery, cold pancakes and sloppy service. Downtown the food was poorly prepared and the service was, umm, distant. But it was cleaner!

                  Same for HobNob. It's an interesting place, but the food is not, and it's not cheap.

                  Big yes to Chloe, Zanzibar and I just got back from scoring a quart of vanilla from Papalecco's.

                  No offense intended Bobierto, but we part ways on this one.

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                    DiningDiva RE: Fake Name Apr 11, 2009 07:45 PM

                    Agree completely on the NP Mission. It's been about 18 months since I've been and the place was FILTHY then. The food was decent (my friends pancakes were hot) but everything was clearly worn out and threadbare, not to mention unbelieveably noisy because of all the hard surfaces. Have not been back since, there are better places for breakfast than that. I just don't understand the lines out the door and people waiting everytime I drive by...

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                      goldenhill RE: Fake Name Apr 12, 2009 06:20 PM

                      Just went to the Mission in east village this morning for the first time (never went to NP location), and would recommend it. had the BLT on rosemary focaccia. the bacon is the best i've had in town and the bread was delicious. bloody marys nice and spicy. the place is clean, service was good, the food prices low, and drink prices average. tasted my husband's blueberry cornmeal pancakes, which were good, but the corn flavor wasn't as powerful as i expected.

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                        sdnosh RE: goldenhill Apr 13, 2009 11:22 AM

                        I agree about the nP Mission also. I only went once several years ago and just didn't like the "feel" of the place. And it did look worn out. I was also surprised that the "bakery" next door had little in it and no one at the counter and it was early in the morning. I've always been happy at the East Village location and love the side note that the building was saved from being torn down by the former owner of Cafe Moto.

                    2. Beach Chick RE: cherrie_333 Apr 13, 2009 05:54 PM

                      I really enjoy Maryjane's Coffeeshop at the Hard Rock Hotel in the Gaslamp..love this place!
                      Perry's Cafe in Old Town has some of the best breakfast in town and you would just take the trolley a couple stops from downtown..place kicks some serious ass!
                      Fish Market Oyster Bar for lunch or dinner is one of my fav's..along with Dobson's for the best mussel bisque en croute ever..cheeseburger too.


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                        Fake Name RE: Beach Chick Apr 13, 2009 06:57 PM

                        Never been to MaryJanes.
                        Fish Market Oyster bar = good
                        Dobsons = good.

                        But Perry's is truly the Rocky's of breakfast.

                        Now, we have established the BeachChick has a tiny blindspot in her normally fantastic taste. But like Rocky's, Perry's has little appeal for good food, but plenty for character.

                        Like Rocky's, I've tried to like it. I've tried to be cool enough to enjoy the overcooked eggs and poor quality pancakes and bacon (but PLENTY OF IT), but I just can't.

                        So, I wouldn't get on the trolley to get to Perrys.

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                          Beach Chick RE: Fake Name Apr 14, 2009 10:24 AM

                          spent a long weekend in Paris and I am very jet lagged and right now, a Perry's breakfast would set me right..never had an issue with overcooked eggs, pancakes and poor quality bacon.

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                            Josh RE: Fake Name Apr 14, 2009 03:31 PM

                            Yeah, Perry's, like El Indio, is one of those places where the wait is totally baffling.

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