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I just saw the new season of Dinner Impossibles' commercial on FN, and its Irvine they are showing. Is he rehired? I thought FN replace him with that new iron chef guy?

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  1. Just goes to show you that the execs at FN has very selective and very short memories.

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    1. re: Phaedrus

      Or perhaps they think we do.

      1. re: Withnail42

        True. Did they use the same intro as before, trumpeting all of his imaginary triumphs?

    2. Yeah, I noticed him on a recent Dinner Impossible I watched, I was thinking it must have been a repeat that I had not seen, but I would love it if he is back, I love that guy!

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      1. re: cheri

        I love to watch him. I'm glad he is back. He is well liked with many people so why not.

        1. re: kchurchill5

          We liked him too..the show was better with him. Sorry Michael.

      2. FN keeping up with their high quality standards as always.

        JAG should get his show any day now.

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        1. re: Withnail42

          Jag looked like he had chops and charisma at least, and probably embellished the truth rather than throw out downright lies.

          It took a long time for me to remotely enjoy watching DI, and no, I actually found Symon more entertaining, and btw, I did not root for Symon in NExt Iron Chef.

          1. re: Icantread

            Yeah, I was rooting for Aaron Sanchez, myself.

            But despite him being a big fat liar, I really prefer Irvine on DI.

        2. Sounds like a new episode to me. April 8th.
          http://www.foodnetwork.com/dinner-imp...

          Bio looks somewhat the same with some editing.
          http://www.foodnetwork.com/robert-irv...

          1. Does it really matter that a guy hosting a food show faked some stuff on his resume? He's on a food show, not in Congress. He's good on the show.

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            1. re: lergnom

              Totally agree, it wasn't right, he apologized, I would hate to think how many of our CEO's, VP and top executives have an accurate resume. I reviewed many top CV's for top positions and one may be surprised what is and what isn't. It isn't right I'm not agreeing to it, but ... it happens. All is clean and he is liked and committed to what he did. Move on.

              1. re: kchurchill5

                You mean all the top exce's who have run their companies into the ground and need bailout money?

                All isn't clean. He apologized bcause he got caught. Time to move on: That's just what Irvine said.

                Doesn't character count for anything these days? We’ve gotten so use to the lack of personal standards it has become the norm. The guy's a fake!

                1. re: Withnail42

                  I just know my fair share of top execs and they all seem to have something in their past that has been falsified. And true he should of come forth but didn't. character should mean more but now a days it isn't always the case. I like the show and obviously others do too. Give him a chance. Let him try to redeem. He will have enough time to prove himself so why not give him the chance.

                  1. re: kchurchill5

                    His resume has nothing to do with the show.
                    There's nothing more he has to apologize about or seek public redeption for. Even if he didn't bend and boast about his past makes no difference about the entertainment value of the Dinner Impossible show.

                2. re: kchurchill5

                  Robert Irvine made a mistake, he gave the usual mea culpa without
                  1) really saying WHY he did it.
                  2) He never faced the people who put money on his enterprises in Florida because they believed in his resume, in which he lied. At least I never heard about it.

                  It was the usual obfuscation, apology without saying he's sorry, etc.

                  Not to say that what he did was anywhere near what the wall streeters did but our willingness to forget and let people off the hook without forcing them to take responsibility for their actions is exactly why we are where we are financially. The truth matters, circumstances be damned.

                  Now, I am not saying he should not get the job back, I think he should but I also think he should take responsibility for his actions, especially for the people who invested in his restaurants and put out a real resume, with verifiable details about his real experiences, which is rather formidable as it is.

                  1. re: Phaedrus

                    He may have fluffed his resume, but I don't think it helped his career or celebrity persona, maybe it opened that first door.

                    Restaurants are a crap shoot even if you have a celebrity chef its no guarantee of investment success no matter who it is.

                    1. re: monku

                      He lied to get people interested and invest in his restaurants. He's admitted that much.

                      Certainly his lies must have gotten the attention of the FN people. He was an ex navy cook who sold dried fruit on-line hardly the back story that would interest producers.

                      How ever have to give him credit for thinking big. The lie about being knighted and the Queen personally giving him a castle is a classic.

                      1. re: Withnail42

                        All celebrities and I'm sure celebrity chefs have PR people working for them. I live in LA and know some who handle celebrities and I call them "Liars for Hire"......some of them will admit it some won't, but their job is to "sell" the client.

                        Do you know what lies he told the investors outside of what we all know was a questionable personal resume? I'm sure he sold the Robert Irvine persona. I'm not sure if he had any successful restaurant ownership to his credit.

                        Restaurants are just a bad investment in general no matter who it is or what the company might be listed on the NYSE or NASDAQ.

                    2. re: Phaedrus

                      I agree, he should take responsible for those who invested. And hopefully in time he will. He only screwed him self for future success and others too, but second chance, he is liked so see what he can do to start over fresh and with a clean slate.

                      We all make mistakes.

                      1. re: kchurchill5

                        What kind of responsibility should he take? Give them back their money?
                        Not knowing the details, I don't think fluffing his resume had anything to do with the failure of that restaurant. His celebrity status was from FN and anyone investing with him was because of that status, not because of his resume.

                        Anyone reading the prospectus for an investment in a restaurant will be warned that its highly speculative and there are no guarantees and can result in total loss of investment. It's almost a suckers bet from the standpoint that it's a crappy investment to begin with. A restaurant is considered successful if they can make a 10% net profit. When you figure you have general partners including the celebrity chef, how much of that 10% profit if there is any is going to get to the investors. Most of the time you don't even get any perks like free meals, the only thing you get is to say is you own a piece. Most of these celebrity's first or second restaurants succeeded because it put them on the map and the celebrity had his personal investment stake in it. The rest that follow are most likely limited partnerships with little personal investment of the celebrity except for their expertise and time.

                      2. re: Phaedrus

                        Why am I not surprised that TFN has him back? "He made a mistake; but he apologized" so everything is hunky-dory now? Yeah. He barely apologized. As you said - never a WHY he did it. Never seemed to have paid back those FL investors who invested in him because of his supposed resume.

                        Always astonished at the lack of responsibility in this guy. "Damn. I got caught. OK, throw up an apology but no explanation and see if it'll stick....oh, it will after a year? OK, I'll lay low and then come back."

                        It's slimy. Regardless of how much "entertainment" people get from his show - he's slimy.

                    3. re: lergnom

                      A lot of people will not get their job back, what makes this guy so special? Why can't he have any consequences?

                    4. Symon was always intended to be temporary. Irvine did his time in the penalty box, and now he's back. :)

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                      1. re: mcsheridan

                        Symon suddenly became temporary' only after Irvine got his job back.

                        1. re: Withnail42

                          Has anyone seen the blog on his website? It's a mountain of aggrandizing congratulations without a single negative post. Pretty wierd. There are a couple of really wierd posts on it too. It's a mediated blog so who knows where the stuff comes from. Good comedy though.

                          Regardless of what I think about the blog I thought he did a good job on DI.

                          1. re: Withnail42

                            symon became temporary because he didnt carry the show-

                            for pure food entertainment Irvine rocks

                          2. re: mcsheridan

                            please indicate where it ever mentioned Symon as temporary.

                            1. re: Icantread

                              http://www.oo.com/did-the-food-networ...

                              1. re: mcsheridan

                                Really the point I was trying to make. It was never stated publicly. Bringing it up only after the fact doesn't count for much if anything.

                                The temporary thing was FN biding their time and doing damage control. If they were able to do so then Symon would suddenly proclaim that he was really only temporary. If FN couldn’t do damage control then Symon being temporary would never have been mentioned ever.

                                It was all just a PR gimmick. They guy is still an egotistical liar.

                                1. re: Withnail42

                                  And (almost) even worse, TFN says “He has taken responsibility and made a conscious effort to clear the air, rebuild the relationship with Food Network and apologize for the earlier inaccuracies.”

                                  Taken responsibility for the LYING you mean? Not quite. And "inaccuracies"?????? Wow - talk about PR fluff from TFN!

                                  Those of you that choose to continue watch this liar can have him. The entire network is a joke (has been for quite some time) and bringing this idiot back is just is the icing on the cake.

                                  1. re: LindaWhit

                                    Amen!

                                2. re: mcsheridan

                                  withnail made the point I would have. Basically, FN was looking to sweep this under the rug and see what would happen. I'm pretty surprised, and I just cannot see him steering that show and having such a valuable impact as to wheel-and-deal to get him back in.

                                  To me it's like dancing with the devil and not even getting a violin out of it. I guess there are quite a few supporters, however. I personally will not watch him again.

                                  1. re: mcsheridan

                                    My, my- Symon is too humble, isn't he?

                              2. Whatever...

                                Irvine's back, I don't care, I'm not watching him.

                                And yeah, I think the fact he is a big fat liar that hurt people by backing out of financial deals has something to do with it.

                                He's a master of self-promotion, and makes Vinny the Sham Wow Guy and Billy Mays for Oxy Clean look like amateurs.

                                Some people will buy what Irvine has to sell and that's fine.

                                I'm just not one of them.

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                                1. re: TrishUntrapped

                                  Hey, Billy Mays has some great products!

                                  1. re: Icantread

                                    4 words that make me instantly change the channel..... HI...BILLY MAYS HERE..

                                    1. re: billieboy

                                      Doubt we'll have to hear much from Vinny after the last couple of weeks though.. lol

                                2. I guess the ratings showed that people preferred Robert Irvine in the job... I know DH and I did. His shows are just fun to watch, and Michael Symon's weren't. He took himself far too seriously in the few that we saw before we lost interest. This is entertainment, not life-or-death...

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                                  1. re: Kajikit

                                    Just fun and entertaining

                                    1. re: kchurchill5

                                      ...and formulaic! More FN pablum.
                                      I've had more fun watching old ladies make swedish meatballs for a church dinner!

                                      1. re: choco_lab38

                                        Then don't watch the show- simple as that. No need to insult people that like the show.

                                        1. re: EWSflash

                                          >>...and formulaic! More FN pablum.
                                          I've had more fun watching old ladies make swedish meatballs for a church dinner!<<

                                          The comments are insulting to the show, not to the people watching the show.

                                          1. re: Phaedrus

                                            I feel sorry for the Swedish ladies who were haapily minding their own business makeing meatballs suddenly being compared to Robert Irvine.

                                            What did they do?

                                  2. So, I haven't ready each and every post here, I may at a later date when I have more time, but I don't see why everyone's got their knickers in a knot. Sure, he lied, embelished, entertained. That's what people in the entertainment industry do. So he said he cooked for the Queen. He lied. Whatever. I'm actually laughing as I write this because I think it's so funny. He's entertaining. That's what TV is for, like it or not. And if you don't like it, you change the channel, like I do. He's MUCH better than Michael Symon is, and I like Michael alot. But, this is not the show for him. People lie everyday. Sometimes we find out, sometimes we don't. But to judge and hang this guy, well, I guess you can because once you're in the public eye you're in the jury of the people, but before I cast stones, I always try to think if I'm as virgin clean as they come, and I can safely, and thankfully say I'm not. I could see being outraged if he was in the medical field or finance where a serious lie could have a serious consequence, but he's a real chef, he knows his craft, that's very apparent by watching him.

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                                    1. re: FoodyGirly

                                      That's like saying I am not a real doctor but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

                                      I can't stand watching Rachel ray, but at least she is honest about her credentials. As many have stated before, he managed to fool the viewers which isn't all that hard to do and as you said, its only entertainment, but how about the investors that he'd lied to?

                                      1. re: Phaedrus

                                        As per your first statement: I don't get it.

                                        For your second, yes sure, if we all went around telling lies, it wouldn't be fun. I get you on that one. But how did he fool the viewers again? And as I said, he lied to everyone ok I get that, but how would did it harm his investors? I'm genuinely interested to know.

                                        1. re: FoodyGirly

                                          FoodGirly, read this, it will get you a bit up to speed.

                                          http://www.sptimes.com/2008/02/17/Sou...

                                      2. re: FoodyGirly

                                        The elephant in the room is the fact that what Irvine does isn't really particularly difficult. I'm pretty certain that most moderately talented caterers can do the same thing. To paraphrase Anthony Bourdain the show should be called "Dinner Slightly Difficult".

                                        Irvine takes an incredible number of shortcuts and his food looks mediocre. Symon is a way more talented cook and isn't as disturbing to look at.

                                        1. re: KTinNYC

                                          Well, I'll let you in on a little secret: the food that most of the personalities/chefs on the Food Network isn't particularly difficult, either.

                                          And as for who's nicer to look at? Well, let's just say that neither would win a Mr. America contest, but then my tastes run more of the Gordon Ramsay and Rocco vein.

                                          1. re: FoodyGirly

                                            The fact that the food cooked by FN personalities usually isn't difficult to cook isn't a secret to me or anyone else that is mildly interested in cooking but at least the show titles don't imply there is difficulty either.

                                            1. re: KTinNYC

                                              The show title: Dinner Impossible, does not imply that the food is complicated. Anyone who has watched the show can I think understand that since sometimes they are cooking in the woods, in a school cafeteria, etc. that it's the task that is spun to be 'impossible', not the ingredients or the preparation.

                                            2. re: FoodyGirly

                                              You're also clearly new to FN if you think that it is a secret that their food isn't overly difficult.

                                          2. re: FoodyGirly

                                            You clearly do know the story. But are simply posting.

                                            1. re: Withnail42

                                              I'm not clear on what you're saying.

                                              Can you please clarify?

                                          3. A little positive press on Robert Irvine:

                                            http://www.courant.com/entertainment/...

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                                            1. re: FoodyGirly

                                              Yikes. It's really going to take hours of prep work for me to plan my TV viewing, movie watching and radio listening from now on. I will need to research each and every individual to see if they make my moral cut. I will need to review their resume to make sure they have not embelished their accomplishments, or prevaricated about their education in any way shape or form. I will need to look into their personal lives to see if they have done anyone financial or emotional harm. Or paid all of their taxes. I can no longer rely on their performance in their current job, I need to vett their background and their souls.

                                              Who was the ex-con who started a cooking school for troubled youth? Probably shouldn't be watching him. Mario said the F word in front of the Queen of Spain, so I'm tossing out my Mario Batali cookbooks. Gordon Ramsey now has financial and marital issues, so his show is out. I'm not even going to start on professional sports. or politics. This is going to be tough. Good thing I'm perfect.

                                              1. re: PattiCakes

                                                Look, its not all that hard. I take people at face value, I don't investigate whether they are liars because I assume that they are not, until they are caught in a lie. And when they are caught, they need to apologize for their actions and try to amends for the unintended and intended consequences that their lies may have caused. IF they don't do that (Irvine) or if they enabled the slacking of responsibility (as TFN has done), then their character becomes in question in my mind. I try to live by that as much as possible. Obviously I am in the minority.

                                                1. re: PattiCakes

                                                  Well said.

                                              2. You know what, regular people won't get their job back, but he does? Why is that fair? Why can't he have the same consequences? And a lot of people do lie about their resumes, they're just not so stupid to lie about something so ridiculous. So they're awarding lying and being ridiculous as well.

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                                                1. re: AngelSanctuary

                                                  Why did you double post this further up?

                                                  I think *good* lying should be rewarded, cause it's so good that you can't tell. It's in fact an art. Which seems to have been the case here. Oh, up and until he got caught of course. I'm looking forward to seeing now actually if Robert dreams up some other great whoppers. That's the fun part here. Is he lying? Is he telling the truth? I think people like this are very entertaining when they're on TV.

                                                  And as for your question about lots of people losing their jobs and he gets his back? Well, that's a little thing called life's not fair.

                                                  1. re: FoodyGirly

                                                    One's a reply to that person and the other one's a reply to the topic.

                                                    ...But he's a terribly liar so why is he still being rewarded, he's not even smart about it.

                                                    Life isn't fair, and isn't that sad. Shouldn't people care about it just a little bit? I mean, even on this thread, so many people don't care (like the person I first replied to), shouldn't they care just a little it?

                                                    1. re: AngelSanctuary

                                                      I understand where you are coming from, believe me I do. On the other hand, virtually everything we see on TV is a lie in one way or another, particularly the "reality" shows. Do you really think that the contestants who are shown to us by the producers of those shows are the "real people" -- they are not. And please don't get me started on politicians (both parties!). Look at the lives Hollywood "stars" lead. Sex, drugs......

                                                      Did RI cause financial harm to investors because of his lies? It looks that way, but as I have said before, I would have done a whole lot more checking up on his background before I invested that kind of money with anyone. The fact that FN brought RI back to the show really has nothing to do with his inflated resume or his claims of being knighted, it has to do with entertainment. He puts on a good show. He could be Saint Robert, pure as the driven snow, but if he couldn't deliver in the context of the program, he'd be outta there.

                                                      I just wrote a check out yesterday to the IRS, and that almost made me gag. It's funding bailouts for people who never should have been allowed to get mortgages in the first place, while I ate bologna sandwiches to pay mine. I'm watching my pension dwindle to almost nothing. Cops are being shot right and left in my city. When I go home from a stressful job, I want to watch something mindless & entertaining. Dinner Impossable fills the bill for that -- although it didn't when RI was not on the show.

                                                      I draw a moral and ethical line in the sand almost every day about something or other. A TV show on FN, given this particular set of circumstances, just isn't where I choose to do it. If that's your particular line in the sand, that's OK; just don't imply that I'm an immoral neanderthal because it isn't mine (I know you didn't, but that's the general tone of this thread).

                                                  2. re: AngelSanctuary

                                                    Because all Food Network cares about is the bottom line -- money. Irvine was very popular on Food Network and brought in a lot of advertising revenue. And I don't believe the consensus on these boards reflects the consensus in the US.

                                                    1. re: Miss Needle

                                                      Time will tell in terms of advertisers and ratings of his show. I'll be curious to see what happens. I suspect that the average person will never know the back story that has been talked about on here and will happily watch as usual, and silently wonder where he had gone to for a season.

                                                      1. re: FoodyGirly

                                                        I just happend to flip by the Yahoo DI(is this a newv season?) episode last night. Regardless of anything else being said. The food looked like shit. Most of it sounded like shit too. I have liked some of the previous episodes, not all. The food I saw last night left me hoping Paula Dean would come to the rescue.

                                                        1. re: Wursthof

                                                          I caught a bit of it as well - supposedly some of those "recipes" were the most searched recipes? After hearing the list, I sincerely doubt it.

                                                          1. re: LindaWhit

                                                            No, they weren't searched recipes, it was a gimmick that they used to give him the food combinations he had to use. They "spun" a dial for each category of menu item, then spun the dial again to match it up with the main ingredient he had to use. Needless to say it came up with some tough combinations "salmon cupcakes", "peanut butter chili", "eggplant salad", etc. So he then had to come up with dishes on the fly and he repeatedly said that these were things he normally would not make. I thought he was pretty innovative for some of them, others did look less than appetizing.

                                                            1. re: sibeats

                                                              I have to say that I've never really watched this show for its culinary merits. To me, it's not that kind of show. It's the 'getting there' that is really the point. So yes, much usually looks sub-standard.

                                                              1. re: sibeats

                                                                Well, then Comcast REALLY screwed up on their description of the show! LOL I hit the Info button on my remote and that's what it said - "most searched recipes".

                                                                1. re: sibeats

                                                                  sounds like some of the combinations on Chopped.

                                                              2. re: Wursthof

                                                                The last thing on the mind of that grinning jerk at Yahoo was giving his employees a good meal. This was one big commercial designed to show us how hip and innovative they are. The fact that the food looked totally awful didn't matter at all, except to the poor schmucks who had to eat it.

                                                                1. re: Wursthof

                                                                  see now interestingly enough i too caught part of the yahoo DI and while i agree some of the food looked weird (and there certainly weren't rave reviews) my thought was SO different. all i could think was - here comes irvine, we're back to the interesting challenges! i have never hidden that i like Michael Symon since i lived in cleveland and his restaurants are great and he's charming and great to the community. but i didn't particularly like him on DI either. I didn't watch before because i've always disliked irvine, but i was really hoping to like it with symon but i just felt they gave him REALLY boring challenges. his food looked good enough but they weren't FUN. and irvine (although i don't like him) seemed to get FUN challenges. to me it definitely read as if they wanted symon to seem not as good. initially i thought they were just running out of ideas but...
                                                                  interesting now that we see what happened.

                                                                  1. re: AMFM

                                                                    The cooking shows I like best are the ones that give you some idea how the food industry works in the real world. Dinner Impossible is pretty much unique in that it gives you a look inside the catering industry. Symon is undoubtedly a better chef than Irvine, but Irvine is a caterer, and I find his take on things interesting. I like the challenges that are real world, like the inaugural ball cocktail party for the governor, things like that. I don't like the artificial situations that they throw out just to make it difficult, like this stupid random selection gimmick or having to cook vegetarian for cowboys. Irvine is kind of a drama queen, but if you fired everybody on TV who has lied about their qualifications, there would be nobody left.

                                                          2. I friend's daughter was recently hired into a new position. Once she was on board, she was invited to "depart", ie, fired. Seems in doing the background check, she had omitted one of her prior employments - I suppose it was viewed as lying by omission.

                                                            That's how it works in "real" life. Obviously not the case in TVLand, SilverScreenLand and DCLand.....

                                                            As to RI, I never did watch him - didn't like looking at him.

                                                            As to FN, it has really gone into a downward tailspin with the replacement of all of their bona-fide chefs. Now, it just seems that the "personalities" are often times choosing random food items which are thrown together and called a recipe. More often that not, it looks like slop. RE: PD, RR, BD, the Neely's, etc......