609353 Fri Apr 03 15:11:00 -0700 2009 22 30 Site Talk 0 4565650 http://www.chow.com/recipes/18968 I was searching the recipes board this morning and, during that search, came upon a recipe posted by one poster that seems to be copying and pasting a lot of recipes from the Internet. If that's allowed (copying/pasting willy-nilly from anywhere), that's one thing. See the following links for almost exact copies (a few minor changes in the directions): http://www.foodtv.ca/recipes/recipedetails.aspx?dishid=9154 http://www.eatshrinkandbemerry.com/section/view/?fnode=69 BUT.....per the recipe posted on Chow's Recipe board at the top of this post, the recipe makes absolutely NO sense. There are no ingredients listed except the item in the directions, but there are *no* quantities of those ingredients in the directions. If we use the "Report" feature on a recipe (and I did on this one earlier this afternoon) is it removed or is the poster asked to fix it? Or is it ignored? Fri Apr 03 15:11:00 -0700 2009 10532 LindaWhit 1 4566349 Hi, Linda, we'll take a look at that poster's recipe submissions. If you report a recipe, it goes into a queue to be reviewed, and what happens (deletion, request that they fix it, etc) depends on what the specific problem is. Fri Apr 03 19:51:02 -0700 2009 4565650 10021 Jacquilynne 2 4566363 Thanks for the response, Jacquilynne. Fri Apr 03 19:58:10 -0700 2009 4566349 10532 LindaWhit 3 4575636 But I see it continues: this recipe - http://www.chow.com/recipes/19111?tag=main_body;recipe-19111 is a word-for-word copy/paste of this recipe: http://www.aarpmagazine.org/food/recipeguide/Articles/a2004-10-22-rec_art.html/?recno=329&unique_id=d5257881236890311 And this recipe has absolutely no quantities on ingredients: http://www.chow.com/recipes/19089?tag=main_body;recipe-19089 And many other recipes are up there, copied from sites like The Food Network - without ingredient quanitities listed, but directions are copied/pasted. I'm not just picking on this one person, but with the number of recipes this person has out there, his posts stand out when you click on the Recipes link. Chowhound has always ALWAYS been very cognizant that recipes should not be copied word-for-word from other sites - ingredients and quantities, yes - but directions should be paraphrased. Doesn't seem to be happening anymore. Tue Apr 07 11:52:03 -0700 2009 4566363 10532 LindaWhit 4 4586653 I've noticed this time and time again as well. Pranksters using gibberish. I've reported a few and it didn't seem to make a difference. The same people are still up to their big fun; they're all over the place. Since they're not carefully monitored, I'll just find recipes elsewhere. Sat Apr 11 05:33:53 -0700 2009 4575636 253735 bayoucook 5 4586661 (i'm replying to myself?) - Need to say sorry. I just did a quick recipe search and didn't find a gibberish recipe. Did find a couple of keepers.... mea culpa Sat Apr 11 05:42:25 -0700 2009 4586653 253735 bayoucook 6 4586945 They're not pranksters, they're spammers. We work really hard to beat them back, but they're quite relentless. If you do see a new round of them show up, please do report the first of them and we'll work on removing the new batch. Sat Apr 11 08:09:32 -0700 2009 4586661 10021 Jacquilynne 7 4586961 Thanks Jacquilynne, we'll continue to report them. Sat Apr 11 08:19:12 -0700 2009 4586945 253735 bayoucook 1 4577929 What occurred to me is that it looks like this poster is using Chow's recipe feature as a way to save recipes from other websites for their own personal use. Like an online recipe folder. Just copy and past the whole thing into one or two fields on the Chow recipe submission page and then they can access the recipe from their My Chow or whatever from other computers. The poster doesn't seem interested in putting anything up in a way that would be reasonably useful for others. Wed Apr 08 07:49:57 -0700 2009 4565650 80141 ccbweb 2 4578010 Interesting. Hadn't thought about that, ccbweb. Having scrolled down, it does look like it's all recipes; no posts. (Although many of those recipes don't have ingredients listed, so they're still pretty useless!) Wed Apr 08 08:09:29 -0700 2009 4577929 10532 LindaWhit 1 4586601 Hey, guys. This is interesting. The one and only recipe I've posted is that wacky bacon magic cookie bar riff I came up with after someone suggested we collaborate on a recipe. Most other favorite recipes are from other sources and not modified enough for me to claim them as my own. But from the time I've been spending here on CH, I have hacked some recipes that are now (I think) different enough to claim as my version. Would that be appropriate to post in the recipes section with acknowledgement that it's a hack (or based on) a recipe I found on allrecipes.com? I'm thinking of a reuben soup I made with my mom recently. It was really quite tasty, but we used less cream, more broth, added spices, etc. that made it our own. Let me know--do you think that's cool or no? I'll permalink to what it was originally and what we did so you can weigh in. "My" recipe: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/603778?tag=highlight-4520799;post-content-4520799#4520799 Original recipe source: http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Reuben-Soup/Detail.aspx This was inspired by kchurchill5's mention of reuben soup on another thread, but I actively searched for a different recipe to play with as hers didn't sound as much like a reuben to me personally once i read it. But I did think it was a great idea--which is one of the reasons I love CH--it inspires me to be a more creative cook and baker! :) http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/603846?tag=highlight-4508038;post-content-4508038#4508038 If I'm delusional, just let me know. Sat Apr 11 04:46:43 -0700 2009 4565650 249664 kattyeyes 2 4586640 IMO, your recipe is far different that that of the Allrecipes.com one, and I'd see no problem in posting it to the recipes board. Sat Apr 11 05:22:21 -0700 2009 4586601 10532 LindaWhit 3 4586647 Thank you. Not to toot my own horn (honk, honk) but it was really tasty! ;) In fact, I'm making a corned beef for dinner tonight, just so I can have hash tomorrow and soup during the week. Have a nice weekend! Sat Apr 11 05:26:22 -0700 2009 4586640 249664 kattyeyes 2 4586851 I had to laugh because my reuben soup has about 5 variations depending on who I am making it for. Some get more kraut, while others not. some more onions, some mustard ... I agree we all get ideas and then do our own take. I can't think of how many recipes I have "copied." And that took the idea and then made it my own. I think most recipes are created that way. I had something a few weeks ago and I came back and tried to recreate. I am sure 90 is probably the same ingredients but more of some, less for others and a few other spices, so to me it definitely different enough to call my own. I am glad I inspired you to try something close at least :) I just saw a picture on some web page for a green goddess shrimp. No recipe. Another inspiration to try. Sat Apr 11 07:24:50 -0700 2009 4586601 232829 kchurchill5 3 4586899 Not sure what you were laughing about? But looked at your recipe (one of five!) and it doesn't bare much resemblance to kattyeyes. There's such a huge difference --- cabbage versus sauerkraut, potatoes versus no potatoes --- the similarity seems to end with the name. I made HER Reuben soup last night and it was one of the best things I've ever had. We were *moaning* over the deliciousness of it!!! Like kattyeyes I can't usually come up with anything that's enough my own, but that clearly was. Can't wait for leftovers for lunch, k-e. Sat Apr 11 07:50:54 -0700 2009 4586851 131001 c oliver 4 4586927 Why, thank you! :) So very glad to hear/read! Sat Apr 11 08:02:39 -0700 2009 4586899 249664 kattyeyes 2 4586954 That would be fine. If you've significantly changed a recipe -- especially the wording of the instructions, since copyright doesn't cover lists of ingredients -- you can post it. Sat Apr 11 08:13:56 -0700 2009 4586601 10021 Jacquilynne 3 4586967 Very good--thanks! :) Sat Apr 11 08:20:31 -0700 2009 4586954 249664 kattyeyes 1 4586692 this is what I'm talking about (on the home page now): fish45 Feedback Received! Thank you! -the CHOW team If you think there is a problem with this recipe, alert the moderators using the options below. 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bayoucook 2 4586828 OK, now that's a MAJOR issue - I've not seen that type of "recipe" posted....that kind of stuff should definitely be removed! What a PITA. Sat Apr 11 07:12:04 -0700 2009 4586692 10532 LindaWhit 3 4586850 I know! Can't people find a nice hobby like cooking/baking? Or at least chatting about cooking/baking? :) Sat Apr 11 07:24:08 -0700 2009 4586828 249664 kattyeyes 3 4586876 I've been seeing these since I joined. It's the same people over and over and I've reported them. I kind of hated to do anything b/c they obviously want attention. I does aggravate me, though. Linda: thanks for the help with MasterCook - gonna do it next week. Paula Sat Apr 11 07:38:20 -0700 2009 4586828 253735 bayoucook 4 4586978 Not sure what they get out of it, other aggravation. These people need to get a life, IMO. And good luck with the MasterCook, Paula! Sat Apr 11 08:26:14 -0700 2009 4586876 10532 LindaWhit