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Alphonso mangoes, when does season start?

I went hog wild on the alphonso mangoes last year. Ate my way (with spouse) through about 8 cases or so. I recall buying them around Mother's day. Does anyone know if the season has started yet and if so, any sightings around Gerrard st.? Otherwise, do you know when it starts?

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  1. The season started in Bombay 2 weeks ago, so you should see them here soon. I'll go look as I'm waiting for them also. I'll repost back after I find some good ones.

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    1. re: foodyDudey

      My wife just called BJ supermarket. They said maybe this Friday, maybe next week, they'll have the first round of Alphonsos.

      1. re: grandgourmand

        Interesting. I just called Kohinoor Foods (right across the street from BJ) and they said this is the third week. He just got in 10 boxes, the price is $25 /box. I'm going over right now to get one..

        1. re: foodyDudey

          Thanks buddy. I'll race you there.

          1. re: grandgourmand

            I'm back and I already ate one. Your wife came in the store as I was at the cashier, but I'm not sure if she recognised me. What are you doing with two boxes, do you want me to come over and help you eat them? :-)

            1. re: foodyDudey

              Probably a gift for my in-laws, who visit every weekend (Indian family + new baby = lots of visits).

              We'll probably bump into each other during Alphonso season. Last year was my first season eating them. And I've been hooked ever since.

              1. re: grandgourmand

                I'm getting in on the Alphonso action this season for sure... can't wait for my maiden voyage :)

                WON

                1. re: wontonfm

                  I bought a case from Kohinoor on Saturday and we're about halfway through so far. I think they had about 6 or so cases left. Definitely delicious and I understand what all the hype is about! Check the link for photos http://whatsonmyplate.wordpress.com/2...

                  WON

                  1. re: wontonfm

                    Good post on your blog.

                    The case we got has all been consumed. The flavour was great. I get this "i think they were sweeter last year" feeling. But I'd probably have to do a side-by-side test with an atulfod to confirm what I already know.

                    1. re: wontonfm

                      I also bought six from Kohinoor, plus one Ataulfo, to compare. I have to say that the Ataulfo was better, according to all who compared at our table. Maybe it's early in the season? I didn't detect any real difference in texture, and I believe they were both ripe and ready to eat. I did, however, think the Alphonso had a wonderfully fragrant flavour, unlike any other mango I've tasted. If only it had been sweeter...

                  2. re: grandgourmand

                    Didn't your wife tell you about them earlier? My wife is not Indian and she reminds me it's almost time to go get them in February. One of my cousins in Bombay emailed to tell me the good ones were in the markets there, that's why I knew it was time to look for them here.

                    1. re: foodyDudey

                      She doesn't eat spicy food, if you catch my drift.

                      Those pictures from the NYT article you posted were tantalizing.

                      I want to try those Choonsas, now. My in-laws told me about one type of mango, that might be Choonsa, where they way to eat them is to keep the skin on, crush them in your hand, make an incision and suck out the pulp.

          2. re: foodyDudey

            Thanks everyone - I was in India last year around this time and had the best mango experience ever...I always loved them but didn't appreciate the number of varieties until then. I will definitely pick up some Alphonsos in Toronto this season. Thanks for the reminder.

          3. What is the average price of Alphonso mangoes in the GTA?

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            1. re: warlock

              A case of 12 goes for around $20.

              A case of Atulfos, from Mexico, goes for about $10. But there are 24 mangoes in the case, Alphonsos are actually 4x the price.

            2. I was eating about six mangoes a week last season! I was in Chinatown this evening (spadina) and the cases are starting to show up. I bought a few mangoes from Loblaws (or maybe No Frills) last week and they were OK. Not bad but not the drippy, sweet, sticky mess that I remember. I say give them a few more weeks.

              As for price... I was buying them in Chinatown and would pay about $5 for 6-8 mangoes (depending on the day of the week). The major supermarkets often have them for $0.99 each.

              WON
              http://whatsonmyplate.wordpress.com

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              1. re: wontonfm

                Wait, really? Alphonso mangoes from India? I've NEVER seen them in a major supermarket, and never paid as little as $5 a box. On Gerrard East you're usually going to pay at least $2-3 per mango, and often a bit more. And they get the bulk of the shipment every year...during the season you see guys unloading cargo vans stacked with Alphonsos. I've always trekked to Little India for my fix.

                You sure you're not thinking of a different sort of mango? Because Alphonsos blow every other mango out of the water. Well, Pakistanis would disagree and say the Choonsa is the best, but yeah...

                1. re: childofthestorm

                  Where do you get the Choonsas?

                  1. re: grandgourmand

                    Also on Gerrard. Kohinoor, across the street from BJ more or less, always has the best mango selection.

                    1. re: childofthestorm

                      When do they start showing up? I need to put this king of mangoes debate to the test.

                2. re: wontonfm

                  Only six a week? Sometimes I'd eat three at once. When they are ready to eat, it hard to just have one especially since they are so small. I never realised they were sold in Chinatown. I usually buy them on Gerrard St. The price varies each year from $18 to $22 for a box of around 12 mangoes that weigh approx. 200g each.

                  Here is NY Times article about Alphonso mangos http://travel2.nytimes.com/2006/05/10...

                  1. re: foodyDudey

                    Not sold in chinatown. We're getting confusion with the atulfos.

                    Anyhow, I'd eat three at a sitting, normally. They are smaller, but also because they are usually pretty ripe when you get them. Considering the price, and the quality, you don't want to lose any to spoilage.

                    Thanks for the link. Times has such great food articles.

                    1. re: grandgourmand

                      My bad! Definitely thinking of Atulfos. Haven't seen Alphonsos yet.

                      Carry one :)

                      WON

                    2. re: foodyDudey

                      From NYT article..."once the mangoes are ready, shoppers nuzzle them affectionately against their faces...hoping to inhale the distinct whisper of mango perfume, which only barely leaks out the skin of the perfectly ripened fruit." Whoa.

                      I remember this same thread last year and the discussion about atulfos vs. alphonsos. I missed mango season when I was in India and I don't think I've ever tried them here. Somehow, in the next little while, I need to carve out enough time in my hectic little life to hike it up north for my Passover shopping and then out to the east end for these sacred mangoes - I have a sneaking suspicion that the latter will be the more "religious" experience of the two...:)

                    3. re: wontonfm

                      I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Ataulfo mangoes instead of Alphonsos. I've never seen Alphonsos sold in Chinatown. I personally like the Alphonsos but strongly prefer the Ataulfos (nicer taste, smoother texture), and best off, they're quite a bit cheaper.

                      Edit: Never mind! I should have read the replies before posting.

                      Now I'm craving an Ataulfo... so good with ground red chillies, lime juice, and sugar!

                    4. I have seen them selling at T&T for at least the past month in cases and loose.

                      1. Are they the same season as Ataulfo mangoes? Here's an article I found from last year:

                        http://www.thestar.com/living/article...

                        I looove Ataulfos, and I've had a few good ones from regular grocery stores recently. I'll be watching this thread to find out when mango madness shows up on Spadina!

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                        1. re: mobirose

                          The Ataulfos are already on Spadina, they started showing up last week and in full force right now. I've been covered in mango juice for a week!

                          I've never seen an Alphonso on Spadina; I think you really do have to go out to Gerrard for those.

                        2. Atulfos are not the same. They are from Mexico. While good, they are in the minor leagues compared to Alphonsos

                          The season for Alphonsos starts about now and runs to mother's day, or around then.

                          Some of you may remember the Seinfeld episode where Kramer raves about the Mackinaw (sp?) peaches. Only available for a short time each year. Same idea, but with mangoes.

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                          1. re: grandgourmand

                            You cant even compare Atulfos with Alphonsos...almost like apples and oranges.....they dont call Alphonsos the king of mangoes for nothing....

                            will have to start looking around for it ......

                            1. re: warlock

                              Wow. Nice to see others who love mangoes as well. When they are in season, I eat 3 for dinner. I am mango obsessed. Will definitely run out and get some Alphonsos this weekend.

                              Thanks, everyone!

                            2. re: grandgourmand

                              I didn't try to buy any Alphonsos in the last 3 weeks. Today I ate at "The Famous" Indian Cuisine which is very close to Kohinoor, and after dinner I went for a walk and saw that there are still loads of Alphonsos available, in case anyone is wanting them. They should be around till the end of this week.

                              1. re: foodyDudey

                                Thanks for the heads up.

                            3. If anyone hears of any places closer to central Toronto, please post! I can't readily get to Gerard St. that far east in the next little while----and I'm really interested in trying these mangos...

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                              1. re: Ediblethoughts

                                You need a place with a high density South Asian population. Gerrard St., obviously. Although I can't confirm, I'm sure there are places in Brampton that have them.

                                1. re: grandgourmand

                                  I was hoping for perhaps China Town (for example, Gerrard/Broadview) but I can see why that might not work out.

                                  1. re: Ediblethoughts

                                    If you're willing to go to Gerrard/Broadview, Little India is not much further east on from there.

                                    If you're on the TTC, streetcar service is very regular.

                                    You can get the Atulfos in Chinatown East pretty easily. But not the Alphonsos.

                                  2. re: grandgourmand

                                    I've always loved mangoes - my father used to bring back a case of them every time he traveled to Egypt - but this weather just doesn't put me in the mood to eat them. If I buy a case, how long do you think I can store them before they begin to shrivel up? Given that you seem to stockpile them I'm thinking you would know :)

                                    1. re: dxs

                                      If you store them in the refrigerator, they may be good for a week. They won't ripen in there. If I buy a few boxes, I store them and take a few out to ripen. You will find that there they go from not ready to ready quickly, and once ripe you must eat them as the next day, the sweetness will diminish. It's better to eat them a day early than a day late. One of the mangos I ate yesterday was already going downhill and discoloured inside, but this was not noticeable on the outside.
                                      Try to buy ones that are ready to eat. If you see any red or pink in them, they are ready. Don't buy any that have any sign of a shrivelling skin. Eat at room temperature, not directly out of the refrigerator.

                                      1. re: foodyDudey

                                        Yes, it's sad when you open one up and see that it's gone bad, isn't it? Thanks for the tips!

                                      2. re: dxs

                                        I don't stockpile. I mow through them. Will share a case (i.e. 12 mangoes) over 3-4 days. It's really not that much. I'd rather go through them fast than risk any spoiling, especially at $20 a box.

                                        If you're talking about today's weather, with all this rain, I can't think of anything better than an Alphonso mango to liven my mood.

                                        Right now, as foodydudey mentioned, they're $25 a box. I assume the might drift down as supply increases over the coming weeks.

                                        1. re: grandgourmand

                                          Cool. If they're going to be around a few weeks longer I think I'll just wait. I just associate mangoes with hot weather and sunshine I guess...

                                  3. how long are they around for? i just picked up a box yesterday and have had about 5 of them .. so far they're all super ripe/almost over ripe

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                                    1. re: halugii

                                      I remember eating them up to about Mother's day last year.

                                      1. re: halugii

                                        I picked a box up at Kohinoor Foods today, most of them need some more time to ripen up but I was able to try one. Very nice! Buttery texture and sweet, a nice treat for spring.

                                        1. re: deabot

                                          Are the Alphonsos irradiated in Canada like they are in the U.S.? We'll be in Toronto next week and I would love to try them if they aren't "nuked".

                                          1. re: kellycolorado

                                            No, they aren't. We've imported them for years...that US decision was puzzling.

                                            1. re: childofthestorm

                                              Wonderful. I was disappointed about the irradiation too and can't wait to get a case next week.

                                              1. re: kellycolorado

                                                Am halfway through my case already-eeeps! These are some of the most lovely mangos I've had, luscious, sweet and fragrant. Unfortunately they are also among the pricest mangoes out there!

                                                1. re: deabot

                                                  There are no mangos I know of that cost more. I better go pick up a case today before all you CH's get them. My dad's parents had an alphonso mango tree in their backyard so we could eat as many as we wanted when they were in season.

                                                2. re: kellycolorado

                                                  I went to Kohinoor foods on Tuesday and bought a case. Delicious. We finished up the last 3 for mango lassis this morning for breakfast before heading back to the Detroit area.

                                        2. Bought a small case (6) of alphonsos last week and I'm impressed. I grew up in Trinidad eating Julie mangoes constantly and these taste almost exactly the same except there's no "string" - just smooth luscious flesh bursting with flavour. I experimented (treating it like a Bombay mango) by cutting one width-wise and then twisting the halves off the seed and there was only a small amount of fibrous matter attached to the seed itself. Eating the halves with a spoon had a great novelty aspect.

                                          So in conclusion, it's easily one of the best mangoes I've tasted. I'm dying of curiousity to try a side by side comparison with a Bombay mango (common in Jamaica, this is the only true non-fibrous mango I've encountered) - if anyone knows where to obtain those please let me know.

                                          I'll be back to get another case of Alphonsos soon, this time the large case cause the small one sure didn't last too long.

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                                          1. re: psyrel

                                            I just bought another case last night and it was the best so far. The clerk at the store said there are about two weeks of the season left for Alphonsos. I was talking to my cousin in Bombay this week and he said that he just picked some up for 350 rupees a dozen. That is about $8.60 Canadian so we are getting them for a reasonable price when you factor in the transportation.

                                            1. re: foodyDudey

                                              Only two weeks left? Damn. I've only had a few cases. Need to gorge. I don't think I truly appreciate how good they are until I go back to Atulfos or something like that.

                                              What do you know about CHoonsas?

                                              1. re: grandgourmand

                                                From what I can remember about last year's season, the Choonsas started showing up near the tail end of the Alphonso period. Kohinoor would know for sure, you could call them. The guys who stock the fruit outside are all Pakistani and firmly believe Choonsas are better, but my Indian wife ain't buying it. I thought they were really good though, and certainly miles better than Atulfos.

                                                1. re: childofthestorm

                                                  Sweet. literally.

                                                2. re: grandgourmand

                                                  I don't know anything about them. I did buy some Pakistani mangos from Kohinoor a few years ago and didn't like them. I thought the Alphonso season had around 4 weeks to go. I can always ask one of my cousins back in the "homeland"

                                                  1. re: foodyDudey

                                                    I remember buying them for my wife's grandmother for mother's day last year. I think that was around the end of their availability.

                                                    1. re: grandgourmand

                                                      Mother's Day is May 10, so we have about 2 more weeks ;-( I better go mow through a few more cases.

                                                      1. re: foodyDudey

                                                        At least I know when Mother's Day is now.

                                                    2. re: foodyDudey

                                                      Guy at Kohinoor said maybe six weeks left> who knows? probably more than two.

                                                      1. re: grandgourmand

                                                        Does anyone know where to get these downtown? I have been looking all over and can't find any alphonsos...thanks!

                                                        1. re: Mangolover

                                                          We were in Little India (Gerrard Street) on Saturday evening and went to KOHINOOR (1438 Gerrard Street) for the alphonso mango's (among other things) the owner told us that due to the 'airline' problems all of the various shipments from India have not arrived..he told us to keep checking. His name is Azim Popat (416:461-4432). I would suggest calling him since some of the Airlines have resumed service.

                                                          -----
                                                          Little India
                                                          255 Queen St W, Toronto, ON M5V1Z4, CA

                                                          1. re: pearlD

                                                            was going to be in the neighbourhood this aft and still nothing, suggested that perhaps tonight but only a maybe.

                                                3. re: psyrel

                                                  where were you able to buy a small case and how much did it cost?

                                                  Thanks!

                                                  WON
                                                  http://whatsonmyplate.wordpress.com

                                                  1. re: wontonfm

                                                    Got a small box of 6 at Kohinoor for $12 the other day. And here's a tip - open the box, and if you don't like the look of a few of them, ask them to open up another box and swap the few bad ones for good. This is the way it's done in India and they are powerless to resist the logic of buying six perfect mangoes.

                                                    1. re: childofthestorm

                                                      The shopkeeper was really nice when I told him we were in Toronto for six days from metro Detroit, and helped me choose a case with a good mix of ripe and less ripe mangos so we could enjoy them all week. He opened about 4 for me to choose from.

                                                      I got some some Atulfos from Whole Foods here the other day to try to reproduce the mango love, and they had no scent whatsoever unlike the Alphonsos. Oh, how I miss them!

                                                  2. re: psyrel

                                                    Update - went today ~3pm and their new stock hadn't arrived as yet. Since returning later wasn't an option for me, the guy helped me pick through 4 large cases to get a total of 6 extremely ripe mangoes. They're a bit past their prime but not spoilt, and I got a cheaper price too. Really nice guy, he was very apologetic and gave me his card so that I can call ahead to ensure that they have fresh mangoes the next time.

                                                    Just ate 2 and they're super sweet and only a tad bit squishy.

                                                    1. re: psyrel

                                                      I stopped by Kohinoor today around 11:30 am. Asked if I could get a small case of 6 and they told me they didn't do that so I bought a case of 12 for $22. Time to try one out.

                                                      1. re: ProseNotPoetry

                                                        That's odd, I saw the small cases of 6 there earlier in the week. Maybe they sold out.

                                                        1. re: foodyDudey

                                                          I bought a case of 12 yesterday. There was no small case. They mentioned these mangoes will be available until end of June.

                                                          1. re: ace123

                                                            got a large case today at Kohinoor, they said a new shipment had "just come in", by way of explanation to another customer complaining they weren't ripe enough. eventually they found her a case with a high proportion of riper mangoes - i took a case that had about 50% needing some ripening time, which was fine for my needs. couldn't resist a few of the pakistani guavas they had as well... damn does my kitchen smell good right now!

                                                  3. does anyone know of a source in Oakville/Burlington/Hamilton? I'm intrigued now...

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                                                    1. re: club mataba

                                                      any locations uptown TO to buy?

                                                      1. re: alienxx45

                                                        There is a store called "Indian Grocery"
                                                        on Lawrence, just west of Warden on the South side across from Nasr.
                                                        I purchased a case for $18 on Sunday.
                                                        One thing though, check the box yourself.
                                                        I left it to the owner, as I was purchasing spices, and two were rotten when I arrived home.
                                                        He assured me that he checked the box.

                                                        1. re: alienxx45

                                                          Centre and Dufferin in Thornhill, NW corner.

                                                          1. re: Chester Eleganté

                                                            I was by the little shop at Centre & Dufferin today - they had signs up for Alphonso and Kesar mangos, $20/box, but they were out of Alphonsos. Got the Kesars instead. They're behind the counter, you have to ask.

                                                      2. Can you buy the mangos per piece, or is it only by the case?

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                                                        1. re: ggom1

                                                          I am not certain, but I think case only.
                                                          Didn't see loose ones

                                                          1. re: ggom1

                                                            I saw my local Price Chopper (Warden/Finch) sells them by piece $2 each couple weeks ago.

                                                          2. I went to Kohinoor this weekend. They still have Alfonso mangos, but they are very soft, some wrinkled and brownish. I picked three, and they were delicious!

                                                            1. So I bought my case last week (the owner let me make up one case from another that he opened); the mangoes were very soft but not so soft that I'd think they were definitely over-ripe if I was eating an atauflo. In any case, I have to say I prefer atauflo mangoes. I like the tartness to the atauflo and maybe it's just me but I didn't like the way the mangoes smelled at all. The taste was Ok but the smell made me a little queasy. Again, maybe because they were a bit over-ripe. I'm glad I tried them but I think I'll go back to being an atauflo die-hard.

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                                                              1. re: Ediblethoughts

                                                                They should not be "very soft" At that point, they are far gone. They should be firm. If the smell made you queasy, there was something wrong. They become quite tastelsss even a day or two past their prime. It sounds like yours were well past peak.

                                                                1. re: foodyDudey

                                                                  Well, it's hard to describe the line between soft and very soft. I put all of them right into the fridge. I definitely wouldn't say they were tasteless but just not much tartness to offset the sweet.

                                                                  1. re: Ediblethoughts

                                                                    They should not even be soft. Eat them a day or two before they are fully ripe and they will have a nice tartness to them, alonf with some sweetness. The way you described the smell as making you queasy, I had to think they were on there way to rotting.

                                                                    1. re: foodyDudey

                                                                      I figured since they were still yellow on the outside that I was probably safe. A pity since I likely won't get to Little India again before the season is over. (And I'm thinking that as the weather gets warmer, it's much less likely that mangoes at the stage of ripeness you're referring to will be available--since I'm pretty sure that store does not have AC.)

                                                                      1. re: Ediblethoughts

                                                                        New shipments came on on Fri and the mangoes in the boxes I checked, ranged from fairly firm to those yielding with some pressure. The first one I tried on Sat was just a touch under ripe but the two I had today were spot on - tart, sweet with a silky texture, and quite a bit more fragrant than when I got them on Fri.

                                                                        1. re: Degustation

                                                                          Dino's No Frills (Lawrence south of Wilson) has imported Indian mangoes now - $8.99 for a box of 6, they look to be the kesar variety, although the boxes aren't properly labeled. They're right by the entrance, easy to miss.

                                                                          1. re: gimel

                                                                            ok. Based on everyone's input, I actually drove around and got one case of Alphonsos for $18 - definitely worth the splurge. Taste is so much sweeter and so rich.
                                                                            Also bought one case of Pakistan mangoes - $12 for 5 - bigger and size but not as good as I expected.
                                                                            Went back to altuflo (?) - $10 for case of 16.
                                                                            Much prefer alphonso and will try again next year. For everyday eating and bingeing will have to go with the Mexican ones. They taste pretty much the same as the Pakistan ones but cheaper.

                                                              2. Reviving the thread...it's that time of year again. Just got off the phone with Kohinoor. They have had them for about a week. $22 a case. Giddy-up.

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                                                                1. re: grandgourmand

                                                                  Saw them in BJ yesterday. Also $22 a case. They looked a bit sad tho'...

                                                                  1. re: grandgourmand

                                                                    The first shipment usually has small mangos in it. I talked to my cousin in the homeland earlier today and he said they were just hitting the market there, and are not naturally ripened.

                                                                  2. Trekked out to Kohinoor last weekend. They had about 4 or 5 cases and the mangoes looked pitiful. I left empty-handed. I'm not sure how often they get shipments in.

                                                                    WON
                                                                    http://whatsonmyplate.net

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                                                                    1. re: wontonfm

                                                                      My wife picked up a case last night. Not the best I've had. Still early. BUT...they are in good shape and the one we at had the musky/fruity aroma and flavour.

                                                                      1. re: grandgourmand

                                                                        I always skip the first two weeks and the last two weeks of Alphonso season, they just aren't ready when they are first sold, and borderline rotten fruit is invariably getting pawned off at the end. I make up for lost time in the middle, though, by gorging myself. It's kind of an expensive habit but I'm stuck with it...Alphonsos really are the best.

                                                                        1. re: childofthestorm

                                                                          Is there any place to get them in Brampton? big indian population here, i have an indian market called Golden Groceries near my house, do you think they have them?

                                                                          thanks

                                                                          1. re: duckdown

                                                                            doesn't hurt to swing by. I'd be very surprised if there were no alphonsos in Brampton...but as others have indicated, the early season (now) isn't the best time. Wait another week or two. They're not cheap, so you want a good box. I guess you can buy individual mangoes too.

                                                                            1. re: duckdown

                                                                              duckdown, There is a store called cash and carry in Punjabi Market. i haven't been but remember it from what a friend told me. If you want more precise information, I will ask.

                                                                              1. re: garfield

                                                                                Sure, if the store definitely has these elusive mangoes, I want to try 'em. Have been hearing about them each season for 3 years now, time to see what the fuss is about

                                                                                Thanks!

                                                                                1. re: duckdown

                                                                                  Duckdown, I apologize for the delay.
                                                                                  Try calling this place.
                                                                                  Indian Punjabi Bazzar
                                                                                  499 Ray Lawson Blvd, #4-7, Brampton, ON L6Y4E6
                                                                                  Phone: 905-451-5756

                                                                                  1. re: garfield

                                                                                    Oh sweet, I'm just a 2 minute drive from Ray Lawson. I will pop in today. Thanks alot!

                                                                                    cheers

                                                                        2. re: wontonfm

                                                                          I bought a box at Kohinoor on Gerrard this weekend ($23 for 12 - not cheap but oh so good). They were yellowy green and they told me to wait at least 2-3 days until they were enitrely yellow and softer until I ate them. It is now 5 days later and some of them are still a bit green and the skin is looking a bit shrivelled.

                                                                          Anyway, I've eaten 1-2 per day since I bought them and the taste hasn't changed at all really. The texture of the fruit is slightly more soft right now than the first day and the skin peels off a bit easier now, but that's about it. They are simply incredible mangoes. I have bought them in previous years.

                                                                          One important thing. Remember these mangoes come all the way from India and you don't know whose dirty hands have picked them, what debris they have fallen on or what floors they have rolled around on so remember that you are cutting through the skin when you peel them so you need to wash them thoroughly first (as with any fruit and vegetable) before you consume. I saw a TV show where they did a test and cut through a cantaloupe with a sharp knife without washing the cantaloupe first. They then turned off the lights and used a blacklight to show that the fecal matter ending up right on the surface of the flesh of the fruit which you would then be eating.

                                                                          1. re: Flexitarian

                                                                            asian food centre in mississauga has them 6 for 12.99. They were excellent and well worth it. I made my 1 yr old try them for the first time and he loves them. Good to see him grow up with the same stuff i did back home.

                                                                            1. re: Flexitarian

                                                                              Any idea where to get them downtown this year (2010)? Thanks.

                                                                              1. re: Mangolover

                                                                                not exactly downtown ,this is near dufferin subway.
                                                                                http://www.indiasweetsnspices.ca/
                                                                                do call them before going

                                                                                1. re: Mangolover

                                                                                  Go to the Indian area on Gerrard St, you will find them at Kohinoor Foods, which is at Gerrard and Ashdale. 1438 Gerrard Street East, Toronto, ON M4L 1Z8‎ - (416) 461-4432‎

                                                                            2. I bought some at Kohinoor Foods on Gerrard E. on Friday. $22.99 per case of 12. Scrumptious! Call first to see if they have them, though. They'd gotten a shipment on Thursday night but probably sell out quickly.

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                                                                              1. re: Tatai

                                                                                I went out there yesterday and they didn't have any. No more shipments until the volcanic ash clears over Europe and planes are flying again.

                                                                                1. re: Tatai

                                                                                  I was talking to my cousin tonight in Bombay and he said that the mangoes are not the best this year due to high temperatures, and then a lot of rain in early April.

                                                                                  Here's what I found on a produce related website:

                                                                                  http://www.freshplaza.com/news_detail...

                                                                                  India: Rains ‘spells’ trouble for King of fruits

                                                                                  Worried wholesale traders say that the moment it rains, mango prices come crashing down.

                                                                                  The Indian Meteorology Department has predicted overcast skies and a few thunder showers this week. While this has led to happiness among average Mumbaikar since it will be a welcome break from the humid muggy weather it has led to turbulence in a very unlikely quarter - the mango market.

                                                                                  “Even a few showers will mean that prices will drop drastically,” said Ashok Hande, the largest wholesale trader of Alphonsoes at Vashi APMC Market.

                                                                                  According to him the Jain, Marwari and Gujarati community - in that order - are the biggest consumers of mangoes in the city. “They are the first to flock the market when the first batch of Alphonso mangoes arrive in January and are priced between Rs 3,000 and Rs 3,500 a dozen.” he said.

                                                                                  The Jain community does not buy mangoes after it rains, the reason why prices start plummeting.

                                                                                  He cursed the weather gods and lamented that this is the worst year for mango traders. “First there was unseasonal rain, then Cyclone Phyan, then the heat wave,” Hande said, adding “Prices have dropped in the last fortnight from Rs 800-500 a dozen to Rs 400-275.”

                                                                                  Dr Bipin Joshi, an expert on Jain studies at the Mumbai University said that Jain scriptures prohibit the consumption of mangoes once it rains because the fruit is infested with micro-organisms and insects.

                                                                                  “Our scriptures classify food as satvik, rajasik and tamasik. The latter is to be avoided as it can have an adverse effect on your moral and mental state,” he explained.

                                                                                  Dr Joshi said that once it rains, mangoes become tamasik food. “So no practising Jain will consume hem.”

                                                                                  “The rains would only appear only at the aadra nakshatra around the end of June but nowadays due to global warming, the rains don’t seem to be following any set pattern,” he rued.

                                                                                  Harsha Doshi, a Breach Candy resident and practising Jain said that she hopes the skies don't open up and play spoil-sport. “We have aamras with every meal in this season and it's something that my family loves.”

                                                                                  However, Sheetal Janvilkar, a middle class homemaker from Goregaon said, “I am waiting for it to rain. At least then, the prices of mangoes will be within our reach.”

                                                                                  http://www.freshplaza.com/news_detail...

                                                                                  India: Rise in temp hits mango crop

                                                                                  The sudden rise in temperatures last week has spelt bad news for Alphonoso lovers. The hot weather conditions have adversely affected the mango crop in Konkan, with damages estimated to be around Rs 46 crores.

                                                                                  Mango growers in Ratnagiri and Sindhudurg districts have been the worst hit. The two districts have reported a large incidence of ripe and raw mangoes falling off the trees.

                                                                                  The chief of Pawan observatory here, Anand Patankar, said that the weather has witnessed extreme variations since April 2, with mercury rising above the normal by 6 to 7 degrees Celsius. From 32.6 degree C, the maximum temperature went up to 37 degree C on the next two days. It dropped to 33.1 degree C on April 5 and 6, he said, adding that such fluctuation was a rare phenomenon.

                                                                                  Mango grower Sanjay Patwardhan, who suffered a huge loss, said that unusually hot weather conditions have resulted in untimely fall of semi-ripe fruits. “It's a double blow for mango growers, as the crop had already suffered 30 per cent drop due to adverse effects of global warming.”

                                                                                  Disposal of piles of fallen raw mangoes has also posed a problem, as pickle manufacturers have stopped the purchases due to excess supply.

                                                                                  1. re: foodyDudey

                                                                                    That's funny because you would think a drop in the price there would mean a drop here, but that sure hasn't happened since last year.

                                                                                    1. re: Flexitarian

                                                                                      I doubt you will see much of a drop here, as much of the cost is transport. The local price drops because some people don't buy after it rains, but they also lost a large portion of the crop due to hot conditions, and also due to a lot of rain about 2 weeks ago. So mangoes are in short supply. My cousin says they are being force ripened off the trees. He has not seen any really good ones in Bombay, but then the best is always exported.

                                                                                      1. re: Flexitarian

                                                                                        There's been a bit of a drop. When I went to Kohinoor they were $22 instead of $24 and at Bestwin they were $20. Not sure what the lower price is attributed to necessarily...

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                                                                                        http://whatsonmyplate.net

                                                                                      2. re: foodyDudey

                                                                                        Really interesting - thanks for posting.

                                                                                      3. re: Tatai

                                                                                        Kohinoor Foods got a shipment in last night. I picked up two cases today. They probably have less than 10 cases left. He told me they would be ripe in 2-3 days. I love mangoes and this will be my first alphonso experience.

                                                                                        1. re: WeebeyBrice

                                                                                          I just returned from there, still at least 10 boxes left. More will be arriving tonight.

                                                                                      4. Bestwin supermarket at 1400 Victoria Park has many boxes of them. I went in there today and it is a remarkable supermarket. They have about 10 varieties of mango, from Thailand, Vietnam, India, Jamaica and more. They also have excellent stocks of Chinese, Indian and Carribean groceries at excellent prices, as well as a great fresh seafood section and a good butchery.. I much prefer it to T&T. Definitely check it out if you are nearby.
                                                                                        http://www.bestwinsupermarket.com/sto...

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                                                                                        1. re: munchieHK

                                                                                          Wow, thanks for the heads up on Bestwin. Never heard of it.

                                                                                          Looks a lot like T&T. I'm definitely going to check it out. I love grocery stores.

                                                                                          1. re: munchieHK

                                                                                            It's cash only at Bestwin.

                                                                                            1. re: DUH CAR

                                                                                              Who on Earth told you that? I used Interac yesterday. They accept cash, Interac, Visa and Mastercard according to their Goldbook listing.

                                                                                              1. re: munchieHK

                                                                                                This was last year and they wouldn't take my Visa. Dunno.......

                                                                                                1. re: munchieHK

                                                                                                  there's a few checkout lanes that are cash only a and a few that take cards.

                                                                                            2. re: munchieHK

                                                                                              I went to Bestwin today and the mangoes were not in good shape. They had 4 boxes left each box had one or two mangoes that were black and the rest of the mangoes had a lot of soft spots. I thought I could cull together a dozen good mangoes but that wasn't the case. The mangoes sell for $19.99 which is a good price. Worth checking when they get another shipment in.

                                                                                              WON
                                                                                              http://whatsonmyplate.net

                                                                                              1. re: wontonfm

                                                                                                I dropped by on Saturday, and there were no boxes of Alphonsos left, although there were loose alphonsos marked as "indian mangos", some of which were ok - also got some Julies and 'spicy mangos", sour sops and sweet sops too. I wonder what cultivar the spicy mango really is. The mango variety there was remarkable, but the low prices on other produce tended to be for damaged, low grade stuff.

                                                                                                1. re: gimel

                                                                                                  I asked one of the produce guys if the "indian" mangoes were the same as the alphonsos and he said no. There was also a bit of a language barrier so who knows. They looked similar but then again the Ivory and Atauflo mangoes looked identical to me too....

                                                                                                  WO

                                                                                                  1. re: wontonfm

                                                                                                    smell them, alphonsos smell distinctly different

                                                                                                    1. re: chillihigh

                                                                                                      the 'indian' mangos we brought home (also couldn't get past language barrier to confirm variety) certainly had some of the distinct flavour of an alphonso (and the higher price compared to the rest), but perhaps not quite the same colour. Who knows. they were good, regardless.

                                                                                                    2. re: wontonfm

                                                                                                      There is more than one variety of Indian mango. In fact there are dozens of varieties. We don't realise in western countries just how limited our produces selection has become. When I first went to Indonesia, I was amazed to learn that there were over 50 varieties of banana grown there! Until then, I thought a banana was a banana was a banana. The fruits and veges we get in our markets are determined by genetic manipulation to produce a hardy, transportable, weather resistant, pest resistant product. Did you know that a hundred years ago the were over 100 varieties of lettuce commonly grown in Canada and today there are only 4? The advent of factory farming has boosted production and lowered prices, but the price has been a complete decimation of bio-diversity.
                                                                                                      In India, most produce is still grown by individual farms. Same in Indonesia. Go to a market in those countries and you will be overwhelmed by choice. The reason we mostly get Ataulfo mangoes is that they are very hardy and easy to transport. They are the equivalent of the Cavendish banana. Alphonso and other varieties are always likely to arrive in worse shape, because they have not been cross bred for the same purpose as Ataulfos

                                                                                                      1. re: munchieHK

                                                                                                        While all this raving about Alphonsos, Choonsas and Ataulfo ensues, has anyone tried the Kesar (also $20/Doz) or the largely ignored Rajapuri/Malgova ($3.50/lb) at Indian Grocery stores? The Kesar's dont warrant their price tag but definitely worth a try, the taste is yummy. My personal favorite and the best bang for buck is the Rajapuri, also called Malgova in south India. The size is much bigger and the meat is very savory/juicy...please put on a table napkin when eating, this one can ruin your shirt with the incessant fall of juices. Of course all naysayers will argue Alphonso is king and I agree, but thats not my point. The Ataulfo compares nowhere, just place a couple of Rajapuris on your kitchen counter and your whole kitchen has a blast of this yummy flavor. But beware of picking the green rajapuris and hoping they would ripen on the counter, they wont !!! and they will taste sour. Get the ones that are slightly yellow

                                                                                              2. Was channel surfing and saw an ad for FreshCo, a discount Sobey's branch in Mississauga and Brampton, they have a case of 6 Alphonsos for $7.99 this week.
                                                                                                http://www.freshco.com

                                                                                                BTW we got a case from Gerrard, our consensus is it has lovely fragrance and taste, but not sweet enough.

                                                                                                While there I also saw some Sindhi (sp?) mangoes from Pakistan but they were a bit wrinkly. Any comments on those?

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                                                                                                1. re: Teep

                                                                                                  This is probably the last week for Alphonso mangos.

                                                                                                  If yours were not sweet enough, perhaps you ate them before they were ripe. When ripe, the flesh will be a deep orange, not yellowish orange. I have a box here and I offered one to a friend, he commented on how sweet and fragrant they were. The mangoes in the box I have are probably the best I've had all season.

                                                                                                  1. re: foodyDudey

                                                                                                    I bought one from an Indian shop at Don Mills Peanut Plaza. Aapoos (Alphanso) are only second to Raspuri, which are not exportable because they last only a day or 2 when ripe. Well when we do not have Raspuri alphanso is the best.

                                                                                                2. This is slightly off topic but I remember when I was little, around 15 years ago, my mom used to buy boxes of mangoes from a white truck owned by some Caribbean guys. It was soooo ripe and delicious and only $1 or $2 for a whole box of 9~12 mangoes. I lived near Sherbourne Stn and they truck came by every afternoon for a few weeks every summer.

                                                                                                  Obviously this was a lo~ng time ago but just wondering, did anyone else experience something like this??