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Which juicer to buy?

We are spending a fortune on the carrot juice at Costco and I thought it might be better to invest in a juicer. Which one?

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  1. If you can spend the money on it, go with the Champion Juicer. Best there is.

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    1. re: onocoffee

      How much, which model and where to buy?

      1. re: lilmomma

        I vote for the Champion too. It's about $200 and will last a long time. I still use it every year for my passover horseradish. In the 1980's I was on a carrot juice fast and was borrowing a friends centrifugal type Omega. When she needed it back is when I bought my Champion. I was halfway through a 50 lb. bag of carrots when I changed machines. The juice yield with the Champion was way more, and of a richer, sweeter, and darker quality. Under really heavy use 50 lb./wk for a year and a half, the motor did wear out and was an easy home replacement.
        I recommend using California carrots and chill them very thoroughly before juicing.

      2. re: onocoffee

        Ditto the Champion. Great juice quality, does more than just juice (do a search), and lasts forever. Get the commercial model, in black, because the nylon stains like crazy (it only came in white when I bought mine in 1988). Mine is being passed on to a friend because I just upgraded to a Norwalk. Do NOT go for any of the twin-gear or single-auger machines from Korea--they're mostly plastic and don't hold up in the long run, plus they subject the juice to a goofy magnetic charge that actually kills the enzymes (and why bother with the hassle of making juice if you're going to kill it?). Juicing is work, regardless of the machine, but you'll get the best juice for your efforts from a Champion and if you treat it right, it'll last forever.

        1. re: MacGuffin

          The champion is all nylon and stains are easily removed by soaking in bleach.

          1. re: phantomdoc

            I've had no luck with that but it doesn't matter much--the machine's longevity has been amazing. I only hope that my friend treats my old retiree with the respect it deserves.

      3. I really like my Breville one. It basically has 4 parts to clean only. Easy to assemble, easy to disassemble. If your juicer is a pain to clean, you will use it less. Trust me on that one. Make sure when you check out juicers, you ask the sales person if you can have a chance to take it apart and put it back together again so you get a feel for it.

        I got the IKON, but they are pretty much more or less the same design. The rest is about looks and if you care about how much plastic or not. William and Sonomas has a different die-cast Breville juicer that's exclusive to them. It has another disk/attachment that is better for soft fruits like berries and tomatoes. If you have a kitchenaid, I think that money could be better spent on the fruits/vegetable strainer attachment instead because I believe you're likely to retain more of your juice that way than having it ejected with the pulp.

        I would suggest you go with a model with a metal chute, no matter what you buy. The force exerted on the walls of chute can cause it to break over time if it is plastic due to the force of grinding the carrots. The force is then transferred to the chute. If it isn't strong enough, it will eventually crack.

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        1. re: moreana

          We've had the Breville Two-Speed Juice Fountain Plus for a few years and we love love love it. I've used it for everything from watermelon, apples, carrots and ginger to citrus for pitchers of margaritas. The pulp that comes out is always very dry, and it's really easy to clean by hand (but is also dishwasher safe).

          http://www.amazon.com/Breville-JE95XL...

          I know someone who has the super duper Breville one (http://www.amazon.com/Breville-800JEX...), and he loves it as well. Having used both frequently, I am totally satisfied with the cheaper one that we have.

        2. Can I ask a question? How does a juicer work? If you put unpeeled fruit in, and it separates the juice from the "pulp"... don't orange seeds and skin taste bitter? What happens to the seeds?

          And do you.. can you put bananas in? Peeled, to make a smoothy.

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          1. re: Soop

            There are several types of electric juicers. From wikipedia:

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            There are three main types of juicer: centrifugal juicers use blades and a sieve to separate juice from pulp; masticating juicers that 'chew' fruit to a pulp before squeezing out the juice; and, triturating juicers that have twin gears to first crush fruit and then press it.

            Masticating and triturating juicers can also juice wheatgrass unlike centrifugal juicers that cannot break the fibers of the grass.

            The single auger masticating juicer uses a profiled screw style moulding to compact and crush fruit and vegetable matter against a static screen allowing juice to flow through the screen while pulp is expelled through a separate outlet.

            Twin gear triturating machines are usually the most expensive juicers offering the best juice yield. Twin gear juicers employ two metal counter rotating gears to crush the juicing fodder. The precise tolerance of the gears allows the juice to flow through the gap between the gears while the large pulpy matter passes along the top of the gears and is discharged.

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            You wouldn't put a whole orange in there- for things with inedible-when-raw peels, like citrus and bananas (I prefer to put my bananas in the blender, though), you'd peel them. My juicer is a centrifugal one, so the seeds shoot out with the pulp into a separate container. I am not sure how masticating juicers handle seeds.

            1. re: sfumato

              Your Wikipedia article sounds a tad biased and is, in fact, inaccurate. Where's the mention of triturating/hydraulic press juicers? These are the most expensive and offer the best juice yield because they exert at least 2,000 of pressure on pulp to force out the juice--there's no possible way that a mostly plastic machine that probably costs $40 to build in Korea can compete with that. Twin-gear juicers tend to be made of plastic, including the lion's share of the gears themselves (which crack in a few years). They dull quickly, making it very hard to push things like carrots into the feeding tube. The exception to this would be the Super Angel, which is still being sold, although I've been told that the manufacturer has gone out of business, IOW: useless warranty. For that matter, I understand that the extras that came with that machine were abominably cheap, plus paint flakes off. In addition, I've read a number of reviews stating that customer support is poor for Korean-made juicers, i.e., the twin-gear and some of the single-auger. Go with a Champion--mine is vintage 1987 and still works fine. I think they're assembling in Mexico now but I understand that the quality is still excellent, plus the business is based here--no branch office representing an off-shore company. For the record, it chews up seeds, which I prefer for juices such as grape. You get a more complex, cream-of-tartarish flavor which takes the edge off its extreme sweetness.

              1. re: MacGuffin

                Cranky! ;)

                I don't know anything about other juicers, so I didn't know to mention triturating/hydraulic press juicers because I didn't know they existed.

                You're saying it's inaccurate by omission?

                Anyway, like I said, our Breville has been put through the wringer for a good 4 years now, and it's still a workhorse- no noticeable deterioration. The pulp that comes out is very dry, and we like the juice it produces. We are very happy with it.

                1. re: sfumato

                  Hmm, I was unaware that correcting incaccurate info was cranky. Ah, well. And I wasn't blaming you. I merely pointed out that the Wikipedia article was inaccurate. The fact that an entire category of juicers/method of juicing was omitted--the one that actually happens to produce the most juice--seems to indicate that it's biased as well. So in short, yes, it's inaccurate by omission.
                  One of my friends has a Breville but is planning to buy a Champion to replace it. I think he's not happy with its performance on leafy greens. A Champion isn't perfect for leafy greens, but I've found that if they're juiced with some fruit, the yield and quality are quite good, as is the taste. I especially enjoyed juicing fresh pineapple with a bit of curly parsley--for some reason, "green" really complements pineapple, especially if it's sweet.

                  1. re: MacGuffin

                    Nah, it was just the tone- came off a little aggressive! Perhaps it's just due to the usual problems with message boards: hard to extract intended tone.

                    The closest they get is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_W...

                    Maybe you ought to add a section to that Wiki article!

                    Anyway, same with ours- the leafy greens work much better hen wrapped in or around other fruit or veggies. I like V-8, so I do a lot of vegetable juices with the greens.

                    1. re: sfumato

                      I just bought a Norwalk <a week ago (the fulfillment of a 21-year dream, I might add); when I began doing research on juicing in 1988, I knew there was no way I could afford such a machine so I settled on second-best. I've read that you can achieve pretty similar results and yields by grinding with a Champion and then pressing with a K&K press or another juice press if you can find one. It's a much cheaper option to buying a Norwalk (but not nearly as cool, plus it takes up a lot more real estate). That's why I was somewhat peeved that whoever penned that Wiki article didn't mention the method. It really does produce the most juice. How could it not? Pulp is being subjected to a ton of pressure (I think some of the hand-presses claim more). But you have to be a zealot to get that involved, although it's the best way to go for cancer patients. Something MUCH cheaper works just fine for most people and as was noted previously, unless it's easy to clean (and weirdly enough, my Norwalk is a breeze--no screen to scrub, no plastic to stain), it's not going to get used.
                      I'll occasionally proof/edit a Wiki entry but compose one? Nah!

                      1. re: MacGuffin

                        How much do Norwalks run (if i can ask)? Are they super pricey?

                        1. re: sfumato

                          VERY. And in fact, the ONLY reason I was able to buy it was because I'd won money the week before. You can check them out here: http://www.norwalkjuicers.com/index.p... , and here: http://www.nwjcal.com/video.htm .
                          Your machine sounds like it's probably the easiest juicer to clean; this one is easier than masticating juicers like the Champion and the twin-gear models (unless you're making peanut butter or grinding cook meats, it just rinses clean). And you really do have to be kind of nuts or very ill (i.e. a cancer patient) to want something like this (I freely admit to being the former and hope to avoid being the latter). But the juice has no equal; it's like nothing you've ever tasted. It's so rich, it's almost like a liquer.

                          1. re: MacGuffin

                            Here is a u-tube video. It is worth watching. I've offered to put a woodworking vice in the Kitchen but the SO vetoed that.

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf7tjE...

                            1. re: Paulustrious

                              That's actually the video in the second of the two links I posted; I think it's semi-associated with the Gerson Institute (cancer treatment) in California. The machine shown is the model prior to the newest one (they're very similar). The first link is more recent.

                              1. re: MacGuffin

                                Whoops - missed that - I saw the two links as one.

          2. http://www.omegajuicers.com/9000w.html

            I saw this one at a show once, and it looked amazingly easy to clean!!

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            1. re: BamiaWruz

              The Omega that I used (20 years ago) looked the same as in the link. If you are making a large quantity of juice you have to stop and empty the pulp, and paper filter, if you are using one, after every few pounds of carrots. If you are not using paper filter, you will have to spend more time scrubbing the tiny bits of pulp from the screen.

              1. re: BamiaWruz

                They're all a pain to clean to some extent. Given that, go with something that gives you the best quality for your efforts--isn't that one of the reasons you want fresh juice rather than commercial? The Champion's juice is of higher quality than that of a centrifugal juicer.
                For what it's worth, Omega is considered a very fine centrifugal juicer; they took over the Olympic brand which was touted as the very best of the centrifugals in the late 80's. I imagine they're still really good machines if you want to go that route. They used to be US-manufactured but I don't know whether or not this is still the case.
                Phantomdoc, you've had both machines; I've only had the Champion--which is actually easier to clean?

                  1. re: Paulustrious

                    Cool! I have a friend talked into a Champion Commercial; I'll send him the link.

                  2. re: MacGuffin

                    Sorry that it took 3+ years to reply, The Champion is easier to clean.

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