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Mar 17, 2009 02:36 PM

kosher symbol hebrew mem with a crown on it

anyone recognize the symbol hebrew mem with a crown on top of it?

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    1. re: moonlightgraham


      I looked at the list, and the only thing close to that I found was Italian, the raabinate of Trieste, with a Tes with a crown on top of it.

      1. re: ganeden

        I also came up short and I am pretty good.

        1. re: Kosher Critic

          Where did you buy it? I have the vague recollection that Rabbi Avraham Marmorstein, who gives a hechsher used widely on the Upper West Side of Manhattan and on the baked goods at Fairway, uses a mem-based symbol. I don't remember the details of what it looks like.

          1. re: GilaB

            I think the symbol at Fairway is a mem with something written inside. I might have a package of bread at home- I can check.

            1. re: cheesecake17

              You refer to Rabbi Avrohom Marmorstein's symbol which states "Kosher La-Mehadrin" inside a mem.

              1. re: Kosher Critic

                thanks! i knew it said something in the mem- but wasn't sure what exactly

    2. are you sure it's a mem? is it this one
      (BTW this site has about a zillion symbols)

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      1. re: serenarobin

        maybe it was a tet, it looked like a mem. It was an Italian product so perhaps it was that ibne. It was middle earth organics tomato sauce

        1. re: koshergourmetmart

          If it's a Tet, the certification is

          Rav Umberto Piperno
          Trieste, Italy

          1. re: Kosher Critic

            Is that list reliable? are all the ones on that list considered reliable?

            1. re: crownsbroyal

              It is just a list, not a list of reliable hashgachos. There are other lists for that.

              1. re: Kosher Critic

                As one who has no idea who the Rabbis are that give hechshers, who determines who is reliable or not. Is there a source that has some kind of ranking of hechers and more importantly, a list of known unreliable hechers.

                1. re: MartyB

                  The answer to your questions is yes, such things exist. However, as our moderators have often stated, Chowhound may not be the best place for this information. Try as a starting place.

                  1. re: Kosher Critic

                    Nice starting point, many thanks! I will definitely place a bookmark to this site.

              2. re: crownsbroyal

                NO I think it is a data dump of hechshers world-wide. What's nice about the list is that it is searchable, for example by symbol such as "menorah." So if you spot a new symbol, you can look for it. Also helpful for travel.
                The name of the rabbincal supervisor is listed; it is then up to the consumer to do the appropriate due diligence/ ask one's own posek about acceptability.

                1. re: serenarobin

                  It is a start, I do not have a "posek". My local rabbi is a nice guy but not an expert in hasgacha. One needs to have a source to go to in the know. I am reasonably certain that if I would ask my rabbi who "Rav Umberto Piperno" is and if he gives a "reliable" hecher he would probably say "Rav who?" The rabbi who runs this web site has an "Ask a KosherQuestion" option and I am assuming that since he is running a kashrus web site is probably knowledgeable about kashrus issues.

                  1. re: serenarobin

                    On the topic of hashgachos there is a new boy in town "Machmirim" who is selling milk with 4, count them, 4 hechsherim!

                    Machmirim, whose slogan is “Anachnu Machmirim Bnei Machmirim,” is actually under four hashgachos - the Vaad Hakashrus of Skver, Khal Adath Jeshurun (KAJ), the Nirbater Rov (Rav Aharon Teitelbaum), and the Orthodox Union (OU).

                    Now thats what you call kosher! Anything less and you are not doing your due diligence.

                    Funny thing is from what I am reading, their milk is priced LESS than all the other cholov yisroel milks out there. Can one explain that?


                  2. re: crownsbroyal

                    I personally know Rav Piperno, it is a completely acceptable hechsher. rav piperno is from italy but he is currently living in new york. he's an experienced shochet too.

                2. re: koshergourmetmart

                  saw the product again today - it was definitely a mem

              3. is it this one? I came across this posting because someone is asking me what it is.

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                  1. re: greg_t

                    Looks kosher to me. What can I say, I impress easily. I accept any hecher that has an embelishment to the plain K, even a pregnent one. This one has a K, a P, a Mem, and to to top it off it has a crown - WOW!

                    1. re: MartyB

                      Hey Marty B. Ever see a cup-K. That was not a typo and I do not mean Chof(hebrew letter-K. This was a cup, like a tea cup on its side, with a K next to it. It was on a package of hot dogs I saw at the market while reaching for A & H. So funny. I have to check it out on all the data bases mentioned in these postings. I impress easily as well, but that one was a bit much, even for me.

                      1. re: mommysmazal

                        Did it look like the one pictured here?
                        If so, that's Rabbi Israel Mayer Steinberg's new symbol.

                        1. re: GilaB

                          The CRC has a list of agencies on their website that they approve.

                        2. re: mommysmazal

                          cup-k certifies some restaurants in nyc - including, I believe, Maoz falafel. Maoz is not universally accepted, but I don't know about other cup-k establishments.

                          As for the crown-mem, I've seen it before, and its really bothering me that I can't remember where...