603767 Sat Mar 14 14:51:14 -0700 2009 11 19 Outer Boroughs 0 4505018 Just like it says, looking for the best pint of Guiness in Woodside or thereabouts. I've been a bit disappointed with some of the offerings (too cold, poured too fast, wrong CO2 mix etc.) and would love to find a great pint in a place that's not too loud. Extra points for good bar food, too. Of course, I've tried Donovan's, but was a bit underimpressed. Had a pretty good pint in Astoria at the Quay or is it called the Quays. Suggestions? Sat Mar 14 14:51:14 -0700 2009 11071 joekarten 1 4505027 It looks like you've already had a few...lol. You've posted this like 10 times. Try Cronin & Phelan's on Broadway @ Steinway. Sat Mar 14 14:55:12 -0700 2009 4505018 28232 billhill 1 4511304 Try the Irish Rover at 38st and 28th ave. Best pint by far Mon Mar 16 18:37:07 -0700 2009 4505018 275032 dan tha man 1 4518589 Stick to Woodside/Sunnyside, where most new Irish immigrants now live. You should hit Murphy's or Mickey John's on Skillman. Murphy's is pretty well know for its Guiness; Fiona at Mickey John's serves my favorite pint. There are only Irish bartenders and owners in most of the bars in the area. They don't mess it up. These are very local but friendly bars, many characters. Thu Mar 19 04:10:26 -0700 2009 4505018 225944 Paulomet 1 4520856 For Guiness, its Mickey Johns or The Irish Rover. Bring your darts!!! Thu Mar 19 18:19:26 -0700 2009 4505018 126405 chinatownmike 2 4685292 reporting back: tried all the recs, in the same afternoon, which was a bit of workout, but well worthwhile. found cronin and phelan's to be by far the best pint of guiness. then the irish rover and then murphy's. mickey john's came in last. all were poured a bit too cold, but after they warmed up a bit, cronin and phelan's was hands down the winner. plus, it was by far the nicest room, with great service and a great burger to boot. the cronin and phelan pint really had the right texture and wasn't either too watery, too bitter or too bubbly. really the best pint of guiness i've had in new york. although, as i said, it gets poured a bit too cold, owing to the fact that it shares the same refrig system with all the other beers on tap, but short of boston or ireland, i think that's the best you can do here. donovan's gets the temp right, but it is always just a bit bitter and too watery for me. so, back to cronin and phelan's it is. thanks. Thu May 14 19:11:40 -0700 2009 4520856 11071 joekarten 3 4685676 The bartender at The Station Cafe in Woodside (who pours its Guinness from a can with the option of a splash of blackcurrant juice - which goes surprisingly well together), regards the pour at Saints & Sinners as the best in the nabe. I've never been to Ireland, so I wouldn't know. Thu May 14 22:32:54 -0700 2009 4685292 13402 Joe MacBu 3 4686009 Like you, Joe, I prefer my Guinness on the warm side, but apparently there's a market who prefer it chilled, even in the UK. When I was there just recently a lot of pubs had the option of getting a pint cold. They market it as Guinness Extra Cold, or some such thing, and I wasn't pleased when I tried it. BTW, apparently Guinness recommends that the draft should be served at 6°C (42.8°F), while Extra Cold Guinness should be served at 3.5°C (38.6°F). I can't imagine most good pubs serve the draft that cold, but I'm not in the habit of taking the temperature of my drinks, so who knows. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinness#cite_ref-40 Fri May 15 05:44:22 -0700 2009 4685292 13059 Greg 4 4719067 Surprised not to see Donovan's discussed here. Is the Guinness there considered sub-par? Wed May 27 11:03:25 -0700 2009 4686009 13260 dagnabbit 5 4719298 Donovan's Guinness is good. Also PJ Horgans and most pubs in Sunnyside. Wed May 27 12:08:42 -0700 2009 4719067 13780 Up With Olives 6 4719622 donovan's is okay, but it's not great. their guiness, like most in woodside, lacks a creamy texture and usually tastes too watery, due, i think, to an improper mix of Nitrogen and CO2 in their set up. also, they serve it a bit too cold, which you can overcome by just letting it sit. but short of getting under the bar and adjusting the N/CO2 mix, nothing's gonna change the first problem, except a decision at the top of donovan's chain of command. and what i'm talking about has nothing to do with how fast they pour it, either. it has to do with the mix. likewise, it's got nothing to do with where the kegs are filled. just do a taste test with the pint at cronin and phelan and you'll see what i mean. Wed May 27 13:42:49 -0700 2009 4719298 287644 yussdov 7 4856611 About 25 years ago when I was a bartender, Guinness used to require their own CO2 line separate from other taps. They also used to inspect the keg each week and would change it if the date were old even if little had sold. They also adjusted their own CO2. That was awhile ago so maybe Guinness doesn't monitor their product as they once did or maybe these owners are changing the Guinness settings? Tue Jul 14 06:33:28 -0700 2009 4719622 1092711 dstrong66