Any wine tours stop by Bouchon Bakery?
Heh heh heh. You know you're a foodie when you ask this question . . . So, I'm going to be in San Francisco for a few days next month and I want to buy a ticket for a wine tour. Knowing that Bouchon Bakery is located about an hour outside of the city, I am willing to pick a wine tour (almost) solely based on the fact that the company will make a stop at Bouchon Bakery either on the way or on the way back. Does this kind of delightful tour company exist?
P.S. -- I know I can just rent a car and to go to Bouchon, but that's out of the question.
So did you buy your tour ticket yet?
What exactly are you expecting from Bouchon Bakery and what type of tour are you planning on?
IMO, Bouchon is far from one of the better bakeries in the Bay Area and if your base is SF, then you might consider some of the bakeries here.
If you are going on one of those mega-buses, I wouldn't imagine they are gong anywhere near the bakery. If you are going in a small van, limo or car it would probably depend on whether you could negotiate a stop.
Yountville is more than one hour from the city, more like 1 1/2 - 2 hours depending on traffic.
Many of the big buses stop by restaurants or shops geared to group tours and a some of those places have local products. You might trip across a tour like that. Whole Foods and a number of other markets in the Napa area sell Bouchon baked goods.
Those wine tours are garbage. They stop at terrible 'visitor center' like winery's with a cow herding mentality. You get treated poorly at the winerys often and pay too much.
I would definently agree with RW that there are far better bakerys around SF, but the time I ate at Bouchon was pretty good. Though, Bistro Jauntey has a slight edge over Bouchon in my experiances.
How much would those things cost anyway. Hell, throw me some dollars and lunch at Bouchon, Ill take you around.
I know that some bus tour stops at the V Marketplace 1870, which is right across the street from Bouchon, as I got caught at the crosswalk waiting for a few dozen tourists to walk n' talk their way across Washington St. And I did notice that they formed a long line snakling out of Bouchon...but, sorry, I didn't register the name on the bus...
Why dont you check with the tour companies. Your best bet is if one of them stops at V marketpalce as suggested earlier as it is just across the street from Bouchon. Not sure what Bistro Jeanty has to do with Bouchon bakery so I would ignore that thread. Bouchon bakery is good but obviously its vast popularity is its connection to Thomas Keller. Oh and Yountville or Kellerville is not 2 hours from SF. unless you hit some crappy commute and that would be weekday from Yountville to SF. Expect 1 and a half at the most. Hey if your only choice is a wine tour bus than thats what it is so enjoy it and forget the negative threads.
I travel up that way quite a bit and there are surprise traffic jams outside of the commute hours. The only point is that one hour is optomistic unless putting the pedal to the metal and being blessed by the traffic gods. A lot of highway construction goes on in off hours throwing a wrench into things.It doesn't take into account special events like racing at Sears Point ... or whatever it is called these days.
One of the points of Chowhound is to seek out the best and not settle ... be that food or wine tours. Those tours on the big buses are the equivalent at eating at Olive Garden. Sure you can have an ok meal there ... and the big bus tours can be ok ... but it was a heads up to the OP to do a little homework and try to seek out a more personal tour if possible.
Every time I see one of those behemoths pulling up to yet another mediocre winery and tourists being herded around like cattle, I feel sorry for those people that this was the best they could do since wine country is so much more than that.
Wow, I never realized this post would elicit such strong responses. But I see why. I'm completely opposed to eating in bland chain restaurants and I see that I'd feel the same knowing I was supporting a wine tour that survived on this same mentality. I just never thought of wine tours in this way, but then again I've never gone on a wine tour so I guess that's why.
Anyway, I am so giddy about all the great food in the area and the idea of combining great wine and great food seems like it would be an obvious match. I'm pretty stunned that no foodie tour exists like this already.
I haven't bought any tour tickets yet. Not sure what direction to take after reading the posts.
Living here, it is difficult to recommend a tour since locals don't go on them. Start by googling Napa wine tours.
Try to look for a smaller tour. There are limo tours. I don't know how many of these are foodie. I did a limo tour once in Rome when I had limited time. It was so worth it. One of the things we wanted to do was have dinner somewhere. He took us to his friend's house where I first had chicken under a brick. I remember live chickens running around in the courtyard. This was about 10 years ago and a friend and I spent maybe $150.
So I would start reading, about some of the smaller tours. Contact them via phone or email and get something that would be pleasant to you ... even if that means Bouchon :-).
Depends on how much you want to spend, but I'm sure there's something out there that's not outrageious. Hope you have a great time.