HOME > Chowhound > Ontario (inc. Toronto) >

Discussion

Yuzu on Adelaide

  • t
  • theel Mar 11, 2009 08:37 PM

Japango's owner, Bruce Bu, has opened a new restaurant called Yuzu on Adelaide. Has anybody tried? I loved Japango but it is a little far for me now and I haven't been in a couple of years.

  1. Click to Upload a photo (10 MB limit)
Delete
Posting Guidelines | FAQs | Feedback
Cancel
  1. I was there at lunch yesterday, had the sushi platter for two, it was very good.

    29 Replies
    1. re: stw

      What are the prices like compared to Japango?

      1. re: foodio

        http://www.yuzutoronto.com/

        Pretty expensive?

        1. re: foodio

          same as japango.

          it's ok. i think it's better than most places out there but lower than japango in its prime (can't say what japango is now though...). the fish is fresh and relatively tasty though certainly not the best that i've had. the rice is in a sorry state but still better than most out there. i think the best bet is lunch, if you can make it. the prices are more than reasonable then and of great great value.

          i've written about it a few times in a bluefin thread.

          1. re: pinstripeprincess

            It's better than the cheap places, but it isn't worth a trip or anything. My experiences have been mediocre, and I recently had an unagi-don that was positively awful (like, the unagi-don at T&T would have been better, and that's saying a lot). Won't return.

            1. re: tjr

              ah, the preface. it is fairly local for me so in that sense it is worth it and even then i'll only say for lunch really. i would definitely not travel out of my way for this.

              1. re: pinstripeprincess

                I think I will try it to make it down this weekend. I will have to use the Japango of 3 or 4 years ago as the yardstick. I really thought Japango was great back then. I have heard mixed thoughts on Chow the last couple of years though.

                1. re: theel

                  japango was my revelation for what good sushi could be and considering i was restricting myself to downtown i don't think it was a bad choice. but they have faltered and are certainly not the gold standard but much better than the rest at the time. when the slices of fish became so thin and ragged that they were translucent and looked maimed on the shari... i gave up on japango. it didn't help that they were raising their prices by a couple bucks every few months and that once well priced deluxe plate of sushi went from a reasonable $23 to $29... no more i said.

                  1. re: pinstripeprincess

                    Now if they would only serve bashimi (horse) at one of the restaurants in Toronto I would be happy....

                    I went to Yuzu just after it opened for lunch, although I ordered from the Dinner menu for a selection, and it was good (for Toronto), of course the sashimi usually makes up less than half the bill :p (sake the rest). Of course, any Japanese restaurant in Toronto is going to be limited by what they can get their hands on at a reasonably price. I think one of my favourite places for sashimi was at an Izakaya in Miyakonojo, I was very surprised when I got the bill for two people - that it only worked out to 5400yen.... and they had bashimi and bashimi korean style (with egg and mixings)..... Of course the other new thing I tried - raw chicken (don't know the shimi name) - was also very good when you don't have to worry about being poisoned .....

                    1. re: cacruden

                      Really? You liked the Basashi that much?

                      I don't know the "Shimi" name either but I think you're referring to Tori Sashi or Tori Wasa.

                    2. re: pinstripeprincess

                      Torisashi I believe (based on a search) it was raw (raw - not chewy like you would expect based on texture - so I am guessing they removed the chewy outside of the chicken), I had it at a place that did chicken BBQ way out in country-side - I think the chickens were probably raised in the back (I thought I was going to be able to pick mine :p).

                      I had the bashimi in Fukuoka, but it came frozen and was not impressed, I had bashimi in Kumamoto (within view of the castle) - at a place that specialized in it - where it was fresh and it was great. I also had it at the Izakaya (one of the best Izakaya's in that city) in Miyakonojo, and I believe another place - which were also fresh - and they were both great.

                      1. re: cacruden

                        There are places serving horse in the GTA (like Via Allegro) that is better than most of the horse I had in Japan served as basashi. Unless you are going to a place that really specializes in it, where it isn't just a random selection off a larger menu at an izakaya, I find the horse to be pretty boring and would rather order beef tataki or something.

                        I like torisashi though; usually because the places serving it tend to be chicken specialists.

                        1. re: tjr

                          Which areas of Japan were you? When I mentioned to the person that I was visiting about the disappointing horse in Fukuoka (which is south, but I guess not in horse country :o) - she mentioned that it was more a specialty in southern Japan i.e. Kumamoto etc., and that elsewhere you wont necessarily get the horse fresh -- i.e. more frozen. I did try the raw beef (korean style) to compare against the horse (horse), and I found the horse better. Of course when she comes here, I would be more likely take her to Via Allegro - since she prefers Italian and French food - but cannot find anything remotely good in her area (which probably is not a surprise since there is no westerners that I saw in her city :p)

                          BTW, other than the poor horse in Fukuoka - it is still one of my favourite cities in Japan.

                          1. re: cacruden

                            I'm speaking generally -- all over, which is why I mentioned the exception for horse as a specialty item (as in areas where horse is their specialty). I've had great horse and the opposite, even in regions where horse is a specialty. Sometimes it has the be the restaurant's specialty too!

                            1. re: tjr

                              Good to know, just glad the first time I had it -- it was a place that specialized at it (5+ years ago).

                            2. re: cacruden

                              Batifole also does a horse tartare if you're interested.

                              I like torisashi, just doubt any place in Toronto will ever serve it. Sourcing chicken of that quality "legally" would prove to be even more challenging?

                              1. re: aser

                                Batifole's tartar isn't that great, unfortunately.

                                1. re: tjr

                                  http://charcuteriesundays.blogspot.co...

                                  this might be of interest to you two.

                                  1. re: aser

                                    Yeah, I already read this site :-) Thanks though!

                            3. re: tjr

                              horse seems to be a booming business in Canada
                              http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:m...

                  2. re: pinstripeprincess

                    Does he do omakase?

                    1. re: Dimbulb

                      yes he does do omakase but you have to reserve ahead of time and it it not on the menu. I asked once for a price and I believe he said $65. OF course you could go up from there but that would be the minimum.

                      1. re: Dimbulb

                        there is also a chef's menu option but the way the waitress describe it to me it sounded unappealing. essentially it was 5 courses broken up into salad, soup, tempura, sushi, sashimi and i guess an additional course of dessert (which usually ends up just being ice cream). they seemed to decorate these plates much nicer though and offered you the more interesting selection of fish in the deluxe sushi platter without doubling up on any items. this is on the menu and is $50.

                        1. re: pinstripeprincess

                          Omakase is essentially a meal broken up in this manner. Maybe without a mandatory tempura course but certainly appetizer(s), a variety of hot offerings, a variety or cold offerings and dessert(s) at the end. All made with seasonal ingredients that are the freshest and best items in the kitchen that day. The menu doesn't say 5 (or does it?) courses but I guess that's what it is. Traditionally, the chef justs keeps sending things out until he sees some kind of indication that you have had enough. Then the cost is tallied up and ta da ... $1000/pp. You can usually also state an amount of money you want to spend for your omakase meal. $50 dollars for a real omakase meal is a steal but that would depend on how good the food is. I ran into the owner a couple of weeks ago and this was when I found out he had opened Yuzu. He mentioned that he wanted to try some new things with this restaurant in terms of the menu (i.e more traditional at Japango, more adventurous at Yuzu). Maybe he is still playing with his flavours. I found his pricing to be fine if the quality was top notch and the flavours good but it could be considered pricey otherwise. I am now reconsidering a visit. Might have to reconsider a visit because they don't do lunch on Sat and are closed on Sundays. Might just go to my local sushi fix for a couple of Spicy Salmon Hand Rolls (at half the price of Yuzu's).

                          1. re: theel

                            closed sunday? no lunch saturday? i swear i went to lunch on a sunday... or was it a saturday? either way definitely a weekend.

                            i should clarify. i know how an omakase generally works and this is not an omakase. from how they described it they told me directly that it was not an omakase but dishes from the menu that fit within the five specific categories i told you. it sounded genuinely dull which is why i never bothered. the ingredients certainly are not seasonal, save for the fish... and even then i doubt that with a few varieties here or there.

                            1. re: pinstripeprincess

                              I think the website says Sat. 5 - whenever, I can't remember and nothing for Sunday. I could be wrong and these might be new hours. wow. $50 for items off the menu is not cool. I guess that is why it isn't listed as omakase. I hope coffeeadict is right and you can ask for an omakase menu, wierd that you have to call ahead though. I paid $60/pp for my first omakase at Japango and it was absolutely phenomenal. Probably my best omakase experience ever (maybe my best meal ever) and this includes Kaji and Solo (yeah yeah, I know ... Kaji is sushi God in TO but I had a moderately mediocre experience and I didn't want to pay another $150 to give him another chance .. and yes I know I should go back because it's not fair to judge on one off day so I will probably do it at some point .. he is 45 -60 minutes away for me to a make a visit if there is any kind of traffic.) Mind you, the shock of the $60 tab probably added to it, but I was in heaven way before it was presented. I am sad to hear that this might never happen again at Japango. My next 2 omakase meals at Japango were still very good but didn't live up to that first one. Dang it, no one has given me a compelling reason to try Yuzu.

                              1. re: theel

                                I went and dug up the original email they wrote to me:

                                "We offer both the regular omakase and sushi omakase (sushi/sashimi moriwase) and the price is a minimum of $60.00.

                                Please let us know if you have any further questions or requests regarding this matter and if you would like to make a reservation in the near future.

                                Thanks,

                                Heidi and Bruce"

                                1. re: CoffeeAddict416

                                  Thanks CoffeeAdict. $60 and up for Omakase sounds ok and is pretty standard for Bruce I think. Should probably get 5-7 courses for it. If I remember my first experience at Japango, he sent out 9 courses with 13 different dishes (seperate individual cooked items on a served on a single platter I counted as 1 dish but I didn't count each individual Sushi and Sashimi offering as a dish, that would take the count to over 20). Oh the memories. I think I am starting to talk myself into it.

                              2. re: pinstripeprincess

                                According to the website they are only open on Sat from 5pm-11:30 and closed on Sunday.

                                I live extremely close by but don't work in the area, so unfortunately I won't be able to take advantage of your suggestion to try it at lunch time!

                                Although, a $60 quality omakase that close to home does sound appealing....

                                1. re: foodio

                                  Considering the current state of Yuzu and Japango, I'd be skeptical to even bother trying the omakase instead of going to Zen. The fish wasn't that great, the shari was bad, and overall my experiences haven't been great at either (Japango was, at one time in the past, fairly good). I assume they use the same rice for the omakase that they do for the regular sushi...

                                  Ordering ahead means he might get something special for you, I'd imagine.

                  3. Tried Yuzu for lunch today, I would agree that it is probably in the same category as Japango (current) and Sushi Marche. I prefer Marche, maybe because it is my local, but if I lived near Yuzu I would be a regular. The sashimi for two platter was really well put together, and the sushi for two had properly-sized nigiri packed just loose enough. The shari was meh, rice was too cold. But I really can't complain about the freshness of the fish.