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umbushi plum Mar 11, 2009 01:54 PM

as most of us know climate change is changing the face of our planet and as a race we have to do what we can to save our environment (or some of our favourite foods might be in jepardy to) so i thought we should start a list of ways to save energy when cooking and shopping...

here are a few to get started..
1) shop as locally as you can to reduce food miles
2)try fill your oven as much as possible each time you use it so that you use it less often for example roast all the veggies you want for that week or three days etc in one go
3) buy as high rated energy efficient kitchen appliances as you can afford

there are lots more to so please share your tips for the energy efficeient green world of the future ;-)

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    fbf242 Mar 13, 2009 05:00 PM

    I recently realized how unnecessary it is to put all of my produce in plastic bags, so now I usually just put produce directly into my cart/basket, or at least bring old plastic bags to reuse.

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      lgss Mar 12, 2009 02:31 PM

      We walk to the grocery store (or ride bikes in warmer weather) and take a backpack and fabric bags. Each evening we make enough for supper as well and to take to work for lunch the next day. We use cloth napkins, reusable lunch bags and coolant packs we got from a florist (they are used to keep flowers fresh during shipping) through freecycle. Keeping the fridge and freezer relatively full increases efficiency. Let dishes air dry. Go vegan.

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        James Cristinian Mar 13, 2009 02:21 PM

        Actually, a whole refrigerator decreases efficiency by reducing air circulation, a full freezer is good, if it's not full, fill plastic bags with water. Do you have a side by side or top mount? Side by sides are less efficient due to all the door seals. Look, I'm all for conservation, clean air and water, being that I fish alot, but the fact is the air and water in this country is far cleaner than it was fifty years ago. There is alot of sky is falling hilarity with the save the earth campaign. The earth is not dying. Shall we do our best to conserve, sure. There was a widely acclaimed book in the late '60s by Dr. Paul Erlich called the Population Bomb. According to him, by now, we would pretty much be out of fossil fuels, and the earth would see wholesale starvation. I think much of this is media driven.

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        neverlate Mar 12, 2009 12:57 PM

        Live more simply. Be happy with having less. Create community, share food together often, take walks, declutter and donate what you don't need anymore.

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          RosemaryHoney Mar 12, 2009 08:23 AM

          Try to purchase food that has been produced in an environmentally friendly manner. As more people do this, the cost of these products drop. I know in the current financial situation, it's not always easy to do this, but those who are motivated can find other ways to cut costs in order to put a little extra money towards these items.

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            beevod Mar 12, 2009 08:03 AM

            1. Don't use an electric can opener. 2. Have fewer, or no, children

            1. Gio Mar 12, 2009 06:46 AM

              Well, we try to eat 2 seafood meals a week buying fish listed on the Montery Bay Green (best to buy) list. So there are still delicious healthy and safe seafood choices to be made.

              Also, we have been using canvas market bags for more than 15 years.
              We have been composting produce scraps for 20 years and use the finished soil in our garden. Last year the entire front of our property was redesigned to get rid of the lawns (we never did use commercial fertilizer to acheive that putting green
              look ) and now we have ground covers, native landscaping and perennial gardens instead of grass.
              We remove the plugs of small appliances and unused lamps, where feasible, from wall sockets when not in use.
              We try not to drive more than 25 miles to shop.

              I really believe that we CAN reduce the impact we have on the environment.

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                Val Mar 12, 2009 08:25 AM

                Another way to help...turn off lights March 28, 2009:

                http://www.earthhour.org/

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                  Gio Mar 12, 2009 08:39 AM

                  Oh I'm glad you mentioned that I already have my calendar marked.
                  Boston MA is joining the cause...
                  http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/green/gallery/032908_earth_hour/

                  In addition, environmental officials and hundreds of super market owners throughout Massachusetts are set to pledge a 5 year plan to reduce by 1/3 the amount of plastic and paper bags distributed:

                  http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/green...

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                  megmosa Mar 12, 2009 09:10 AM

                  Have you found it difficult to find fish on the list? I do a lot of shopping at Trader Joes and they seem to pick their seafood straight from the "Red" column on Monteray Bay's list. =( I was also disappointed when I went to a fish store near me. A person working there told me everything was from the Atlantic Ocean. Some of the fish they were selling were fresh-water....so...um?

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                    Gio Mar 12, 2009 09:17 AM

                    It's becoming a royal pain, but I persist. Just yesterday I had to substitute tilapia for mackerel in a COTM recipe.... don't do it. LOL If only bluefish were in season that would have worked. We used to buy TJ's frozen shrimp till I got religion, and I miss it.

                    We buy fish at a local supermarket and a fish monger. The market usually has something on the list, but not always. The monger buys seasonally (we're in the northeast.) When all else fails, we buy tinned sardines, albacore tuna and mollusks. There's always the alternate list from MB, I call it the yellow list

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                      chowser Mar 12, 2009 09:35 AM

                      And things like tilapia are hard because farm raised tilapia from the US is fine but not from other countries. It takes sleuthing but once you find a good source, you're golden. If only some stores would stock only the green list, life would be simpler.

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                    umbushi plum Mar 12, 2009 02:27 PM

                    i hope we can to good point about the scraps on your garden!

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                    Whippet Mar 11, 2009 11:40 PM

                    Eat less fish. Our oceans are in deep (ba-dum ching!) trouble. What fish you do eat should be on the "sustainable" list.
                    http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr...

                    1. ccbweb Mar 11, 2009 08:05 PM

                      As regards food miles, check out this thread to click through to a piece at Mother Jones discussing them, in part.
                      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6020...

                      It isn't as simple as shop and eat locally. alwayscooking hit on a key that I've seen universal agreement about: if you eat less food from animals (which I'm using instead of "meat" to include poultry, fish, beef, pork, etc and so on) and more food from plants it will dramatically reduce the amount of energy used on your food in terms of production.

                      The tip then, if your primary concern is to reduce energy use overall, is eat less meat and dairy.

                      If your concern is to reduce energy used when cooking and shopping, I guess you should walk to where you shop, use your microwave instead of your oven wherever possible and keep your refrigerator full even if you need to use random containers of water as a full refrigerator will maintain its temperature more effectively when the door is open and require less energy to cool it back down each time.

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                        umbushi plum Mar 11, 2009 08:11 PM

                        yes eating less meat and dairy is a very helpful, autralians can help by eating more kangaroo instead f traditional meat staff its more ecological

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                          chowser Mar 12, 2009 08:44 AM

                          Exactly. Even eating and shopping locally has its caveats. As an extreme example, it would cost more energy for someone in Alaska to grow his own pineapple than to buy it from the right climate. And, as you've pointed out, driving to the grocery store (which is the only way some of us can shop) uses more energy, from everyone doing it, than it does to ship the product from far away. The answers aren't that easy. Even giving up meat only makes sense if you're replacing it with something grown locally that's native, etc. Giving up meat to eat cheetos, or papaya might not be a better choice, environmentlaly. And, for me on the east coast, the energy cost is less to buy wine from France that's been brought in on a freighter than wine from California that's been trucked across the country. It takes education, not just reading a clippet here and there. Ideally, I should give up my coffee and wine altogether...

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                          Val Mar 11, 2009 06:16 PM

                          Use those cloth or "green" bags at the grocery store or re-use paper bags til they start falling apart...99 cents goes a long way...I've been using them for about 3 or 4 years now..and I'm sure others have done it for even longer...where I live in SWFL, Publix seems to put each item in its own plastic bag for customers...really bad!

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                            mordacity Mar 12, 2009 12:10 PM

                            I love my cloth bags! Living in an urban area and not having a car, I have to carry my groceries home. Not only will a whole shopping basket of food fit in one bag, it doesn't dig into my hands like those horrible plastic ones.

                          2. alwayscooking Mar 11, 2009 03:38 PM

                            - Walk to the store or make a single trip per week (or more)
                            - Replace your lawn with a garden - or some of it
                            - Eat less meat - The UN Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) has estimated that direct emissions from meat production account for about 18 per cent of the world’s total greenhouse gas emissions. Additionally, resources used to produce it are extravagant - it takes 1 pound of grain to make 1 pound of bread but 20 pounds of grain to make 1 pound of beef. Meat requires more land and water as well. So reduce the consumption of meat (1 day per week?) - save the planet and save money.

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                              adamshoe Mar 11, 2009 06:20 PM

                              Does "meat" include poultry, or are we just talking cows and pigs as far as contributing to our carbon footprint? Cows fart a lot, and that is a major burden as far as methane goes. Is it the same for pig and chicken farts? (sorry to get so gross, but I'm curious...) adam

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                                xanadude Mar 11, 2009 09:42 PM

                                I don't think so...ruminents have a unique digestive system to digest grasses etc. I'd imagine confined and poorly-managed animal waste would still contribute significant methane, though.

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                                  megmosa Mar 12, 2009 06:16 AM

                                  I don't think the problem with meat is just animal gases. There's also the ratio of feed to meat. It takes a lot more resources to grow all the pounds of food a cow (or pig or sheep or even chicken) eats and when you finally butcher it, you are not left with anywhere near as many calories worth of food as you put into the creature.

                                  Here is a link to an older article about it. It's the first thing I found when I did a search:

                                  http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/...

                                  "Tracking food animal production from the feed trough to the dinner table, Pimentel found broiler chickens to be the most efficient use of fossil energy, and beef, the least. Chicken meat production consumes energy in a 4:1 ratio to protein output; beef cattle production requires an energy input to protein output ratio of 54:1. (Lamb meat production is nearly as inefficient at 50:1, according to the ecologist's analysis of U.S. Department of Agriculture statistics. Other ratios range from 13:1 for turkey meat and 14:1 for milk protein to 17:1 for pork and 26:1 for eggs.)"

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                                    xanadude Mar 12, 2009 08:18 AM

                                    no one is saying that the only problem with industrial/cafo meat production is greenhouse gases.

                                    "Cows fart a lot, and that is a major burden as far as methane goes. Is it the same for pig and chicken farts? (sorry to get so gross, but I'm curious...)"

                                    The only caveats to the analysis you copied is that, for example, you can pasture (feed) cows on land you can't grow row or cereal crops on, well-managed pasture is arguably much better for the 'environment' than monoculture farmed cereal grains, and that cows can digest plants and parts of plants that we couldn't use otherwise and would go to waste.

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                                      alwayscooking Mar 12, 2009 09:23 AM

                                      It would be great if we all ate pastured cows. Unfortunately, the demand far exceeds the supply of cows grown on poor, non-crop lands. A great article on the exponential growth in the demand of beef and its impact on the environment (and other bad things!):

                                      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/wee...

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                                  Sam Fujisaka Mar 12, 2009 06:15 AM

                                  Cow burps, not farts, are the problem. Monogastrics (chickens, pigs, rabbits...) don't burp..

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                                ziggylu Mar 11, 2009 02:18 PM

                                Waste less! I just this morning finished reading a paper for a class I'm in discussing the US food system from a life cycle analysis perspective. In it a statistic was given that 26% of edible food was wasted in 1995(43.7 Mt). This includes retail, food service and residential waste. The same paper indicates that if 5% of this waste were recovered it would feed 4 million people on an American diet. (Heller and Keoleian, 2003 if anyone would like to read it. The authors indicate these statistics come from the Economic Research Service of the USDA).

                                I"m still mulling this over after reading this morning. I"m not sure if I"m more shocked, saddened or appalled. I do know that I try to throw as little away as possible but am still guilty - often tossing old dairy I don't get through because I don't drink or eat much of it. Restaurant waste too...I"m guilty of that.

                                The environmental considerations of all that waste are enormous - both on the production side and on the end of life side. Such a big difference could be made if we just wasted less....

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                                  umbushi plum Mar 11, 2009 02:28 PM

                                  good one! i find writing a list of everything i'm cooking and the ingredients i plan to use really helps cut waste down thankyou and keep the tips coming ;-)

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