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billieboy Mar 5, 2009 09:47 AM

Peeling Onions by the bushel

Normally I just peel an onion or two for supper and don't even think about it. I just do it.
But today I decided to make a huge batch of Caramelized Onions. After peeling 10lbs worth, I said to myself, "self....there has to be a better way"
Any ideas?

  1. alanbarnes Mar 12, 2009 08:03 AM

    Once upon a time in the dark ages I worked in a professional kitchen. Started out as a prep cook, and one of the daily jobs was to peel and slice 50# bags of onions for onion soup. Here's the method I was taught:

    Dump out the bag into the sink and cover with cold water. Grab an onion and slice off the blossom end. Set the onion on the cut surface and cut in half through the root. Get a bit of skin and flesh between your thumb and the heel of your knife and pull it off in one motion. Lay flat, slice, repeat.

    The key is that the entire skin has to come off in one quick motion. If you're fiddling around, you haven't grabbed a thick enough layer. Yes, you'll end up pulling off some edible flesh, but unless you do you'll be there all day. And if you use the peelings for stock, they don't go to waste.

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    1. re: alanbarnes
      billieboy Mar 12, 2009 08:26 AM

      Oh thank you Alan. I know that peeling off the first layer with the skin is the quickest way but I hate to waste food. You mentioned saving that for stock.....now my conscience is clear :-)
      Why didn't I think of that!!!!

      1. re: billieboy
        alanbarnes Mar 12, 2009 09:08 AM

        You're welcome! Onion skins, carrot peelings, celery leaves, mushroom stems, chicken carcasses - that's not garbage, it's stock waiting to happen. And once the stock is done, I strain off the solid matter, mash it up, and feed it to the dogs. Zero waste (except what has to be picked up in the back yard) and everybody's happy.

        1. re: billieboy
          greygarious Mar 12, 2009 09:17 AM

          Another clear conscience here! Of course, since I consider onions a basic food group, I may need a second freezer....

          1. re: greygarious
            billieboy Mar 12, 2009 11:47 AM

            The second freezer option has crossed my mind more than once. Both my freezer and fridge freezer a crammed. Have to eat more and buy less. (But honey!!!! it's on sale!!!)

      2. BobB Mar 12, 2009 07:27 AM

        There's a Chow Tip video about dealing with the tears-in-the-eyes issue: http://www.chow.com/stories/10842

        Doesn't help speed things up but should make it more pleasant while you're peeling.

        1. alkapal Mar 12, 2009 06:33 AM

          i always tell mr. alka when i'm peeling and chopping lots of onions, that "cutting onions is a labor of love."

          it is easiest for me to:
          1. cut off non-root end.
          2. cut in half, lengthwise, through the root end (which will serve to hold the onion together when you start into step 4).
          3. peel off the skin, by holding edge of knife under edge of skin, and pulling back, holding skin with my thumb down against the skin, with the knife on the other side.
          4. slice with cut side down, by slicing perpindicular to cutting board, radiating away from the root end, then cut onion from the non-root end, about half-way from the top curve of the onion, holding flat hand on top of semi-sliced onion, and cutting toward the root end. then discard root end. and chop, mince.

          process all the onions in the first step, before moving on to the second/next step. it goes faster.

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            paprkutr Mar 11, 2009 08:34 PM

            Here in Los Angeles we have the produce mart downtown and can buy large quanities of peeled onions or potatoes. Alternatively, what I do when I need large quantities of chopped onion, I go to Smart and Final and buy the 3 pound bags of chopped onion which is very fresh, and I don't have to peel or chop. Lot's of times I brown several bags of onions, and then freeze in smaller containers so I always have them. I found that I put the onions in a large roasting pan with some oil put it in the oven and come back once an hour or so and stir. This way it takes a little longer, but I don't have to stand over them.

            1. Demented Mar 11, 2009 08:00 PM

              Hey Billieboy,

              when breaking down large quantities of onions I prefer the two step.

              With a 3 -4 inch paring knife, cut away the tops and roots then remove the paper with the top layer of flesh. Next slice, dice or otherwise cut the onion into pieces suitable for what I'm making.

              1. lisavf Mar 11, 2009 01:54 PM

                Use the biggest onions you can find (I'm talking softball-size). Then there are fewer of them to peel! Jumbo-sized whites are my favorites. Bonus: IMO, they make the BEST caramelized onions because the rings are thicker than smaller onions.

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                  chef24 Mar 11, 2009 01:21 PM

                  Using cold water helps.. Put a piece of bread in your mouth leave half in half out while u peel the onions... Try it

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                    Sharuf Mar 7, 2009 02:45 AM

                    Haven't done this myself, but I saw somewhere (maybe here on CH) the suggestion that you wear swim goggles while tackling onions. Makes sense to me.

                    1. billieboy Mar 6, 2009 07:09 AM

                      Just an update on the Caramelized Onions. It was worth the agony of peeling them. Just had a taste of them after 16hrs in the slow cooker. OMG OMG OMG they are good.
                      Peeling or not, this is now standard repertoire.

                      1. Caroline1 Mar 5, 2009 11:24 AM

                        I invite friends over, get them started "helping" peel the onions, then call my house phone from my cell phone and tell them to keep peeling until I get back. When I get back, I serve them Kleenex (for their rears) coffee and cookies. '-)

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                          greygarious Mar 5, 2009 11:54 AM

                          <Kleenex (for their rears)> ....... and when watching 'Old Yeller", a roll of Charmin next to the remote? ;-D

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                            Caroline1 Mar 5, 2009 12:35 PM

                            LOL~ i REALLY DO need to learn how to proof read!

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                              kchurchill5 Mar 5, 2009 01:03 PM

                              I can relate, lost my glasses, I'm hurting. Glad I'm a pretty good typist LOL

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                                Siobhan Mar 5, 2009 08:50 PM

                                hehehehehehehehehehehe took me a while to figure that out. "What are her friends doing with their rears? Why is coffee required?" heheheheh

                          2. re: Caroline1
                            kchurchill5 Mar 5, 2009 11:55 AM

                            That I could of used. These guys (homeless but so sweet and willing to do anything were SOOOOO slow. It took forever. We had some hundred bags ... There were a lot!! I kept saying I need to check on something or I need to go to the bathroom, any excuse I could make I tried just to get away. We had a fan, running water, just about anything LOL We were all crying. It was so funny we were crying and laughing at the same time. The guys said it was the most fun they had in years. I guess ... all worth just for that compliment.

                            It really makes you think when a bowl of soup is a whole days meal for them and makes them so happy just to peel onions and for others a $300 dollar kitchen appliance or pan. No disrespect to anyone, please. I just meant it as a reality check and really makes you think what is important in life. One of the guys was a banker who came from a extremely wealthy family and gave it all up. Left it all for nothing. Funny how peeling onions made him so happy. And he, I will have help again. He was a good peeler unlike my other 4 helpers. He was the onion king!!

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                              critter101 Mar 5, 2009 04:29 PM

                              Caroline1, I know you meant "tears", not "rears" but that was the perfect typo!!!

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                                Caroline1 Mar 5, 2009 09:07 PM

                                I'm wondering if I'd make fewer typos if I cleared my desk? Or maybe just replaced the batteries in my cordless keyboard? '-)

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                              critter101 Mar 5, 2009 11:16 AM

                              My method is wasteful, but quick. I cut off the tops and bottoms, then make a slit (from top to bottom) cutting through the skin, and the first layer of onion. Peel off, and continue to slice the onion. As I said, wasteful, but gets through the chore quickly.

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                                JoanN Mar 5, 2009 12:48 PM

                                I saw Tyler Florence slit the top layer of onion from top to bottom and have done that, too, ever since. A bit wasteful, but so much faster it's worth it.

                                But I never cut off the root end. You need the root to hold the onion together if you're going to make horizontal and vertical cuts in order to chop or mince it quickly.

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                                  dmd_kc Mar 5, 2009 04:11 PM

                                  That's pretty much my method too -- but I don't understand what part of it is wasteful. I core out the "gathers" at the top, then slit down around the first layer and pop it off.

                                  I nearly always find that the first fleshy layer (the one I discard) is at least partly turned into paper. After I take it off, I usually salvage the edible part if it's over 2/3 of the whole layer. Much less than that and I don't bother.

                                  Maybe I don't funny understand what you mean.

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                                    critter101 Mar 5, 2009 04:26 PM

                                    Because I cut off the first layer (sometimes it's not papery at all), and the top and bottom, there's some of the onion that's discarded. Some people consider that a waste. When I peel potatoes, I cut off the top and bottom, and use a paring knife to peel the rest. Again, it wastes some of the product, but for me, it's worth the time saved.

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                                      dmd_kc Mar 5, 2009 06:19 PM

                                      Gotcha. Not much waste, in my book. Certainly nothing like the "right" way to core a bell pepper, or how most people discard the stem from broccoli or artichokes. Now THAT's waste.

                                2. re: critter101
                                  mnosyne Mar 11, 2009 08:23 PM

                                  Me too!

                                3. Channa Mar 5, 2009 11:04 AM

                                  Soaking the onions in water overnight makes them easy to peel.

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                                    greygarious Mar 5, 2009 11:17 AM

                                    Hadn't heard that one but it certainly makes sense. Thanks! I've got a bag waiting for me and will try this.

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                                      Melanie Wong Mar 5, 2009 12:39 PM

                                      Commercial processors wet the onions, makes the papery skins easier to remove.

                                    2. coll Mar 5, 2009 10:39 AM

                                      My friend who has a hot dog wagon does 50 lbs at a time. He looked into the restaurant style machines, especially because he has arthritis, but the cheapest ones were $200. Don't know how desperate (or rich) you are, though! Just google onion peeler if you want.

                                      1. greygarious Mar 5, 2009 10:30 AM

                                        These are all things I figured out for myself, but have since seen in Cooks Illustrated:
                                        1. Refrigerating the unpeeled onions first keeps them from causing teary eyes when
                                        they are cut.
                                        2. If peeling an onion before cutting, start at the stem end, not the root. Grab the tip of
                                        a stem and pull it back to get started.
                                        3. It's easier to peel if you first halve the onion from pole to pole. Then start at the stem
                                        end and pull back to the root end, but do not tear the peel off. You can then anchor the
                                        root end to the cutting board by holding down the bunch of peel as you chop, dice or
                                        slice the onion. This keeps your fingers well clear of the knife blade and allows you
                                        to cut right up to the root.
                                        4. Although smelly bags of supermarket frozen onions will spread off-flavors to other
                                        food in your home freezer, when you chop your own onions and freeze them in a
                                        freezer-weight baggie, this doesn't happen. I like the convenience of having ready-to-
                                        cook onions instantly at hand. Because freezing breaks cell walls, they cook faster
                                        right from the freezer than they do freshly-cut.
                                        5. When I buy a big bag of onions, after prepping I freeze some raw, sauteeing the rest.
                                        I'll remove some to freezer containers when they are just getting golden, and
                                        continue the rest to caramelized before making soup and/or freezing them in small
                                        amounts. Because of the oil, they don't freeze rock-hard, so it's easy to pry some out
                                        with a fork when I want to add it to a sauce, sandwich, or whatever.

                                        If all else fails, make someone else do it! At times like these I wish I had kids rather than dogs. Then again, a kid will balk at eating your steak gristle and burnt toast ;-)

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                                          kchurchill5 Mar 5, 2009 10:45 AM

                                          This was 15 gallons of soup onion for the salvation army. I picked the onions up between jobs, no time to prep or do anything. I had 5 homeless people helping. and no where to refrigerate. And the knifes, where whatever was available. So no pick and choose here. Needless to say it came out good, took a while but good carmelization just butter for a long time on a flat top grill. Added some sherry, broth, seasoning and we grilled 50 loafs of baguettes. Also fresh slices of some good swiss already melted on the grilled bread. This way they just heat the bread and drop on the warm soup. My contribution. I have a friend at the market and he donates 1/2 and I donate the other half. Have a friend at Publix market too and helps with the cheese and broth. My way on contributing to the community. I do this 4 times a year and volunteer the other months just 1x per month handing out food. Nice way to give back and I write it off as donations. It is as much as people think and it helps. It's not a whole dinner but it is more than some eat in a whole day. Anything can help. I got out local Sams club to donate 100 hams one weekend to go with my soup and a local vendor to donate mashed potatoes and another for hundreds of pounds of fresh corn when in season. Gourmet to most.
                                          Well, I'm way off subject, my apologies. Just a passion of mine.

                                          Well onions are still a pain in the a*s to clean and peel.

                                        2. alwayscooking Mar 5, 2009 10:17 AM

                                          Cold onions, a very sharp knife and quick chopping.

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                                            billieboy Mar 5, 2009 10:20 AM

                                            Oh, it's not the chopping that bothers me, in fact I enjoy food prep, it's the damned peeling of them. Like I said, not one or two, but 10 lbs....boooooring.

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                                              alwayscooking Mar 5, 2009 10:24 AM

                                              ? Do you peel after taking the top off and halving - seems like the easy part. If peeling whole, that would be a dull run - choose some good background music.

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                                                kchurchill5 Mar 5, 2009 10:28 AM

                                                I did, still just a pain, I used a mandolin (sp?) to slice, Need a few hundred) That was the easy part

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                                                kchurchill5 Mar 5, 2009 10:26 AM

                                                Oh I so agree

                                            2. kchurchill5 Mar 5, 2009 09:52 AM

                                              If you hear, please please pass them on. I made onion soup enough for 3 pots for the salvation army. I volunteer 1 a month. I made 3 f gallon buckets. Talk about onions. I lost count of how many. It took 5 of us forever to peel them all.

                                              Someone had got to have a better way. I agree billieboy, making soup just for me is bad enough, this was a test!

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