The difference between a Pub and a Bar...

[carleton]

...Anyone have suggestions in Baltimore for an honest to god 'Pub'? I know there are a lot of opinions out there, but I'm looking for someplace, hopefully WITHOUT 8 large screen TVs blaring sports, with good drafts and comfortable atmosphere. What do ya got?

[igrowveggies]

If J Patricks is close to you, you should also try Mum's and the new Billabong Bar in Fed Hill.

[4X4]

I thought that bars like that exist on almost every corner in Baltimore. :)

[KAZ]

hhm, not sure if I understand your definition of the difference between a pub and bar.

I love the Wharf Rat in Fells Point. To me, its a "pub" with great beer and comfortable atmosphere. They do have TVs, but they aren't the focus.

The Idle Hour on Fort Ave is a great bar with no TVs (usually. They might have a TV in the corner on some nights, but its rarely on).

The Brewers Art obviously has great beer and no TVs, but I don't know if I'd call it a "pub" though.

Your best best for a true honest to god pub (if I understand you) is J.Patrick's in Locust Point. No TVs. Families welcome in an old-school Irish sort of way. Low key live Irish music. Joe the proprietor is friendly. Is that what you are looking for?

Hope this helps.

[carleton]

Thanks....not sure myself what I mean by the difference, but I do know that when traveling, the 'pubs' I've been in have had decidedly different feels than the 'bars' I'm used to in my stateside life. Neighborhoody, yes, more of a focus on the person to person, not the TV, good beer on draft, hard to define.....J. Patrick's sounds nice, I'll give it a try (live music is a major plus). It's close, so...