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Mar 3, 2009 05:31 PM

I had no idea you liked that!

So, I am at my SO's mothers house and I was in the pantry and found a wide array of fruity jello and instant pudding. When I spoke with him later that day I asked who was the jello and pudding fan, he said "orange jello and chocolate pudding are two of my favorite desserts!"

Not once over the years has this been mentioned. As I was making chocolate mousse all this time, he never said, "Just wisk skim milk with the powder and call it a day." And as I have been obsessing over making aspic, he never said, "gee I like fruit jello, perhaps I would like meat jello"

Do you have favorite dishes that you have never mentioned to your partner or have you discovered a favorite dish after a long time, as I did?

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  1. This is happening every other week now with my little sister. She was a very picky eater as a child, and being extremely stubborn, she held onto it for years and years, mostly to maintain her reputation and not have to admit something she spurned all this time was actually good, like we were telling her all along. Then she went off to college and decided that the food was worth some minor dings to her pride. Now all of a sudden she likes things like curry and shrimp and falafel and root beer, and discovers new delicious things all the time. We make cracks about her new adventurousness, but she knows we're happy about it. The only downside is that there's less left for the rest of us!

    1. I asked my SO a few years into the relationship if there was something he wished I had making for him. Yes, it was spinach ravioli. Not very exciting but certainly tasty. I thought it was odd that he hadn't mentioned that he really liked that until I asked. It's not like we had never eaten pasta.

      1. Sort of similar . . . my boyfriend would always say things like "I like sweets, I just don't eat them that much," which I always took to mean he didn't really like sweets, because as someone with a bonafide sweet tooth it is not a realistic option to just "not eat them that much." But recently his love of sweets appears to have been reawakened (I think because he started working with some girls who keep cookies around the station all the time) and he can't get enough, and it is GREAT to not have to feel like the dessert pig all the time. Plus I think its actually healthier for me because now instead of having a dessert of my own, HE gets the dessert and I can just nibble off his so I end up eating less of it.

        1. Sort of the reverse here.

          I'm in my mid 40's and I just discovered that my Jewish mother does not like lox.

          First off... Really?! How could you not!

          And secondly... How did I miss knowing that for the past 44 years!

          My world has been turned upside down.

          17 Replies
          1. re: Jennalynn

            LOL! My mom had a meltdown one Christmas Eve when I was 20, announcing that she really doesn't care for red meat and was tired of putting up with for everyone else. Our Christmas Eve dinner forever and ever was london broil, french bread, peas and potato chips (the last were a real treat for us growing up since they were only in the house for birthday parties and Christmas eve.) I never knew why, but it was set in stone and we never questioned it. I had always assumed it was her decision; she had never said anything about red meat previously.

            1. re: Jennalynn

              Sigh . . . I am a Jew who does not like lox as well. It's especially weird because I LOVE fish - prefer it to meat - and I even really like Gefilte Fish. I am trying to wean myself onto lox and can now handle small amounts on my bagels or with scrambled eggs if it is very high quality . . . but I'm just not very into it.

              I've had non-Jewish friends explaining lox to people and they kind of turn to me like "well, you're the Jew, you tell them how awesome lox are" and I kind of have to grin sheepishly and admit that lox just doesn't do it for me <cue shocked expression>. I'm blonde too, so if I keep this up no one will believe I'm Jewish at all . . ..

              1. re: Cebca

                Jews and lox! Great. My take is that gravlax (and bagels, cream cheese, diced onions, and capers) is now as universal as sushi. I make and love my gravlax, as do my Hasidic and gentile and heathen and fellow Buddhist friends. I hate what Americans think of as "sushi" - so fix them our traditional versions - even making sure its halal, kosher or whatever. I have a cousin - genetically fully Japanese - who is an orthodox Jew. And I order halal on long flights to and from the middle east and the Asian countries of the ex-Soviet Union. Oye ve and salaam alam alieku!

                1. re: Sam Fujisaka


                  Gravlax is not the same as Jewish smoked lox. Gravlax is Scandinavian and cured with dill, sugar, salt.

                  Lox is also cured but no dill and usually in a brine. And it's often cold smoked, but then it's called...

                  Smoked Salmon, which some use interchangeably with Lox, is obviously smoked. But cold smoked which is different than if you get some Alaskan smoked salmon, which is usually hot smoked.

                  Then there's Nova Lox which is cured AND cold smoked.

                  1. re: Jennalynn

                    Thanks for the info. Yes, what I do, then, is gravlax and not lox. I don't think I've had gefilte fish. What's that? Down here all the salmon is farmed and from Chile.

                    Actually, there was a side point in my garbled comment: Americans have enjoyed making up what to me are terrible, disgusting types of "sushi". The attitude when faced by people like me is usually, "Get over it". On the other hand, no one seems to let anyone fiddle around to produce new wierd versions of Jewish food.

                    1. re: Sam Fujisaka

                      Gefilte fish is ground white fish usually bound with egg whites and some matzo meal... and gentle spices... it's then poached. I do love it.

                      And speaking as an American Jew who lived in Japan for a year. I hear ya! The idea of creamed cheese in sushi makes my skin crawl.

                      But you aren't exactly right about "them" not fiddling with Jewish foods. Blueberry, Jalapeno and Chocolate Chip bagels also make my skin crawl! ; )

                      1. re: Jennalynn

                        Gosh, I've been making a version of gefilte fish for a long time - but for southeast Asian style soups and without matzo meal.

                        I'm going to make you some kreplach filled with avocado and creamed cheese.

                        1. re: Sam Fujisaka

                          sam, fish balls? how do you make them?
                          i'm a quenelles de brochet fan, but have never, ever thought of eating gefilte fish -- it looks so horrid in the glass jar at the store. <i'm sure that homemade is much, much better. does anyone eat the jarred stuff? i guess's sold!>

                          1. re: alkapal

                            Just process white fish fillets, add finely chopped green onion, garlic, and ginger, plus an egg and fish sauce. Fry, steam, or simmer.

                            1. re: Sam Fujisaka

                              sam, with what kind of broth do you then make a soup?

                                1. re: Sam Fujisaka

                                  thanks. i guess i was thinking about other things that would go in the broth. my bad. soy? lemongrass? green onion? ginger? garlic? i guess it is whatever i like, but not to overpower the fish balls. wow, i solved my own problem just by sheer thought alone! ;-). i think i'll add some cellophane noodles and a squeeze of lime or some sriracha.
                                  have a great day, sam!

                                  1. re: alkapal

                                    Oh, sorry. Definitely green onion, fish sauce, lime juice; you could also add tomato, pineapple, cucumber, arugula, chile, and the noodles.

                            2. re: alkapal

                              Well, there are several options for the glass jar, one is packaged in like this weird gel stuff (what IS that???) which I would never touch, but one is basically in liquid and that stuff is KIND OF okay, but tastes very different from fresh - in kosher delis you can often buy it in kind of like a big log, or individual serving slices of that log, and they usually put a slice of cooked carrot on the top . . . then serve it up with some red horseradish . . .mmmmmmmmmmmm

                          2. re: Jennalynn

                            I think I love you.

                            Cream cheese doesn't belong in ANY Asian food: not maki, not rumaki, not nothin'.

                            And messin' around with bagels is bad just plain bad karma.

                            1. re: Jennalynn

                              I know, it's bad enough how hard it is to get a good bagel in California, now we have to deal with "Jalapeno Cheddar" bagels and "Sun-dried tomato-basil" - its a bagel! Cinnamon Raisin and Everything should (IMVHO) be as crazy as it gets.

                              1. re: Jennalynn

                                ALSO, there seems to be a big trend of making things like "vegan challah." Now I love checking out vegan recipes, but vegan egg bread? Really? Thats some messing.

                    2. Imagine my utter shock when I learned that Jackp enjoyed macaroni and cheese made with...Velveeta!

                      To put this in perspective, please understand that for most of our marriage, few if any convenience foods have made an appearance in our kitchen. We do almost all of our cooking from scratch, even when the stuff we can buy might be superior.

                      It turns out that his mother had done it that way as a harried working mother and he had a sentimental affection for the flavor and texture.

                      I let him make that gunk once, and that was it.

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                      1. re: jillp

                        Yeah, my boyfriend pretty much won't allow any canned food into the kitchen, not even beans (which I've now stopped making because it requires SO much more planning to make them from dry, and whenever I think ahead and pre-soak we end up deciding to go out and then they are left soaking for like a week and get all gross . . .) and whenever I sneakily make something from a can he always finds out and calls me out on it (where did these chopped tomatoes come from? when did you puree this pumpkin?) but then we went to his childhood home for Christmas and his mom made Campbell's Tomato Soup and he couldn't get enough of it . . . clearly all bets are off when it comes to childhood tastes . . ..

                        1. re: Cebca

                          cebca, um, make your *boyfriend* make the beans.

                          i mean, no canned beans??? a pantry staple!

                          and make *him* peel, seed and chop the tomatoes, and pumpkin, and ....[fill in the blank].

                          you do the cooking and he calls the (micro-managed) shots?? but he LOVES the campbell's tomato soup? GEESH! this guy is a hypocritical control freak, in my book. sorry. (truly i'm sorry; i know you are not on chowhound for my relationship advice.... please take it with a grain -- or two -- of salt. a fleur de sel that you hand-harvested from brittany's coast this past season, that is ;-).

                          cebca, edited to add your quote from another thread about said boyfriend:
                          >>> "its frustrating because ultimately he thinks, in his words, "eating is just so inefficient. I wish I could just take a pill for all my food for the day. Someday we will all just do that" <<

                          yet, he makes *you* jump through all the "purely-from-scratch" b.s.!!!! i foresee a future of mutual like to cook and be creative. he likes to pick, pick, pick -- and really doesn't like food! yikes.

                          .....just talkin'... sister to sister!

                          ps, if you want to dump him, beach chick, yayadave and i have a pretty good program to take care of him. {;^D.

                          1. re: alkapal

                            Haha, well the reason he doesn't make the beans specifically is because he doesn't care if we eat beans or not, he would rather have meat for protein (yeah, I know they're completely different things and not mutually exclusive). It's just when I'm cooking if I served something with beans he'd be all (in a totally innocent voice) "how did you cook these beans?"

                            The problem is that while we both cook (oh, he definitely does his share of pumpkin puree-ing), I enjoy it more, and also am more likely to think ahead of time about a meal to make, so I end up cooking most nights, whereas he is more likely to come up with a big cooking project like once a week or so but would never think in the afternoon like hmmm, what am I going to make for dinner tonight? I, on the other hand, work at a desk and that's pretty much all I think about (but not in a "prepare it for him" kind of way - actually many nights of the week I am cooking for myself as he works 24-hour shifts).

                            As for the canned stuff, as a family friend pointed out, obviously I kind of think he is right or, as you suggested, I would just use the cans and screw what he thinks he can eat it or not. As for making him do the from-scratch work, I'm a huge micromanager in the kitchen, so if I'm doing the cooking no one else is touching a thing. In which case, I guess I have no right to complain :).

                            I do love that you compiled my various comments about the boy to create this image . . . kind of makes me feel like I have a real CH presence, although hopefully that presence extends beyond b*tching about my boyfriend!