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Authentic Sichuan in Denver?

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eade Mar 2, 2009 09:19 AM

Is there any authentic Sichuan restaurants in Denver?

I am hoping to find a restaurant that has someone manning the kitchen from Sichuan Province or who otherwise can cook authentic Sichuan fare.

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    olddogeyes RE: eade Mar 2, 2009 05:23 PM

    I'll be watching for replies as well. I have found the Chinese to be largely crap in Denver.

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      liveloveat34 RE: eade Mar 21, 2009 10:08 AM

      recent NY transplant, queens more specifically. loved going to the food courts in flushing. oh how i miss it! anything anyone? anything near boulder? can't find any good sushi either...

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        ClaireWalter RE: liveloveat34 Mar 21, 2009 11:10 AM

        Can't find good sushi in Denver/Boulder? Guess haven't looked to hard. Sushi Tora and the showier Sushi Zanmai are arguably the purest. Nearby Japango and Hapa have some good offerings too. Haven't been to Kava yet. All downtown.

        In Denver, Sushi Den is usually rated the highest. Domo (country Japanese, no sushi) is terrific too -- foodwise, tho' service tends to be uneven.

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          nateco RE: ClaireWalter Mar 21, 2009 05:12 PM

          I would add Sushi Sasha on 15th just over I-25 from downtown to that list. I really like that place, my favorite in Denver. Try the monk fish liver, Mmmmmmmm.

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            ClaireWalter RE: nateco Mar 21, 2009 09:52 PM

            I know that there are other really good sushi-erias in Denver, but I live in Boulder, so I'm most familiar w/ those.

            I escaped from NY/Hoboken more than 20 yers ago, and I missed Chinatown a lot until I finally discovered some PGCRs (pretty good Chinese restaurants), some of which serve really terrific, authentic dim sum (Kings Land, Super Star, the new Heaven Star). When I go back to NY, which I do once or occasionally twice a year, I get into the rhythm right away, but after 5 days or so, my jaw is clenched, my shoulders are tense and I get "that heacache" that I lived w/ for years. I wouldn't trade our mountains and big skies for all the tea in Queens.

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              LurkerDan RE: ClaireWalter Mar 24, 2009 10:57 AM

              Funny, Claire, I escaped from Manhattan some 20 years ago as well, and I get the same feelings you describe when I go back to visit, except my limit is 3 days, not 5. :) I have long since grown accustomed to the fact that Chinese food is not the same here, but it's good enough to satisfy the craving when I have it, and the alternative -- living in NYC -- is terrifying!

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              liveloveat34 RE: nateco Mar 24, 2009 08:41 AM

              i've heard good things about sasha- will def have to try it out soon!

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                tatamagouche RE: liveloveat34 Mar 24, 2009 10:18 AM

                It's actually Sasa, and it's very, very good. I too am an East Coast transplant and definitely think it's on a par.

                Ditto dim sum at Heaven Star and King's Land. I also like a place called Chopsticks a lot. These are all in Denver, except Heaven Star, which is in Broomfield.

                Here's Sasa's website.
                http://sushisasadenver.com/

                Here's a blogpost I did on it last summer.
                www.denveater.com/denveater/2008/07/s...

                I'm on my way to NY for a few days tomorrow, and of course I plan to hit Chinatown and Koreatown, plus indulge in a few other things I can't get here, like Turkish food. Still, there isn't *much* I can't get here—and since I'm a fan of Southwest Mex (I know Californians largely aren't, their loss) and since I think Denver has *the best* dive bars in the country—I'd just as soon be here paying less for more in 300 days of sunshine. Just sayin.'

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                  nateco RE: tatamagouche Mar 24, 2009 12:43 PM

                  yikes, thanks, Sasa is the place I meant, and rereading my post again I see a second mistake, it is just east of I-25 on 15th, not just over I-25

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                    ClaireWalter RE: tatamagouche Mar 25, 2009 07:18 AM

                    Tatamagouche - In addition to Chinatown and Koreatown (where is that?), the Greek delis/resaurants in Astoria (Queens) are also worth a field trip.

                    With all this, we still haven't answered the question about genuine Sichuan in Denver. We've all segued into discussions about Chinese fare in general and even sushi. Frankly, Eade, I've only had gringo Sichuan, so couldn't really answer. Many all-purpose Chinese restaurants have some dishes they label as Sichuan, but that's all I know. As to where individual chefs hail from, that's a question that probably would take a latterday Charlie Chan to figure out. (And if there are any PC Police out there ready to light into me for referencing a stereotypical fictional character from decades ago, lighten up.)

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                      liveloveat34 RE: ClaireWalter Mar 25, 2009 03:43 PM

                      there's a huge chinatown in flushing with an abundance of korean restaurants as well. was living in astoria before moving to boulder- maybe thats why i miss ny so much. didnt experience the same "get me outta here" feeling there.

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                        eade RE: ClaireWalter Sep 17, 2009 11:50 AM

                        ?? Just ask where the chef is from.

                        Anyway, back to the original topic, there is original Sichuan in Denver. I posted the name below.

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                          eade RE: ClaireWalter Sep 17, 2009 12:25 PM

                          ?? Just ask where the chef is from.

                          Anyway, back to the original topic, there is original Sichuan in Denver. I posted the name below.

                          (I meant to reply to this one)

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                    liveloveat34 RE: ClaireWalter Mar 24, 2009 08:39 AM

                    i've tried all four- Tora was definitely the best followed possibly by hapa on pearl...wasnt impressed with japango at all. akiyama in gunbarrel is good but way overpriced. still not too taken by boulder's sushi offerings...

                2. Chandavkl RE: eade Mar 28, 2009 05:22 PM

                  Going back to the original question, I've never heard of authentic Sichuan in Denver nor would I expect to find any. The Chinese population in Denver isn't that numerous, and it's really the Vietnamese population that drives the existence of authentic Chinese restaurants in Denver, and they are clearly partial to Cantonese/Hong Kong style Chinese food. Indeed only a few cities in the US have authentic Sichuanese food.

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                    eade RE: Chandavkl Sep 17, 2009 11:46 AM

                    CHINA JADE on E Iliff

                    There is indeed authentic Sichuan in Denver, as I've happily found out. . .

                    Don't misunderestimate Denver!

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                      liveloveat34 RE: eade Sep 17, 2009 12:05 PM

                      awesome! what disges did u have or can recommend?

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                        eade RE: liveloveat34 Sep 17, 2009 12:27 PM

                        See review by EV and others:

                        http://www.yelp.com/biz/china-jade-au...

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                          liveloveat34 RE: eade Sep 17, 2009 06:36 PM

                          Great! I just read thru the reviews, and I'm so excited to try it out hopefully this weekend. Thanks!

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                        tatamagouche RE: eade Sep 17, 2009 07:06 PM

                        Lori Midson at Westword agrees heartily with you on that score, as I understand. Gotta check it out.

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                          PitLab RE: eade Sep 18, 2009 06:11 AM

                          OK. I'm going to sound pretentious here but I have to ask. Although I've never been to Sichuan Province, I do go to China 2-3x per year on biz. At a Sichuan restaurant in Beijing, I had a "hot pot" type of fish that could possibly be the best thing that I have ever ingested in my life. Yes, a bit of hyperbole. It was a pot of boiling oil with cut up pieces of fresh fish and then various peppercorns tossed in for flavor. I've yet to find this guy anywhere in the US, including Flushing, NY.

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                            tatamagouche RE: PitLab Sep 18, 2009 06:28 AM

                            That doesn't sound pretentious, it sounds great, but what's the question? Whether you can get it here?

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                              eade RE: PitLab Sep 18, 2009 09:18 AM

                              PitLab,

                              You can get Sichuan hot pot in the US.

                              The only two places in the US I have ever had it was at (1) the branch of Grand Sichuan branch on Lexington and 33rd and (2) Little Pepper / Xiao La Jiao in Flushing.

                              The Grand Sichuan branch in Chelsea is overall better, but that branch does not have hot pot. Hot pot is rather labor intensive, and they may have decided at the constantly crowded Chelsea branch it is not practical. Also, it is a seasonal dish; I am not sure if you can get it anywhere if it is not winter.

                              The service at Grand Sichuan was better than Little Pepper / Xiao La Jiao, where we felt they were pushing expensive items on us.

                              Neither restaurant had the hot pot (huo guo) menu in English. Also, you have to ask for the Chinese hot pot menu, they do not automatically hand it to non-Asian people. I imagine by now these places are used to non-Chinese speakers asking for hot pot / huo guo menu though, so be sure to ask for it.

                              I have never heard of Sichuan hot pot in Denver. . . perhaps China Jade would be our only hope, if they add it to the menu in winter.

                              There are other varieties of hot pot. In Flushing, as I recall, you could also get Shanghainese hot pot and Mongolian hot pot.

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                                tatamagouche RE: eade Sep 18, 2009 11:59 AM

                                I know King's Land does hot pot; what type it is I'm not sure. Charsiu doesn't post on here super often, but if he sees this, I know he's had it.

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                                  eade RE: tatamagouche Sep 22, 2009 07:49 AM

                                  Cantonese.

                                  Nothing wrong with Cantonese hot pot, some people might prefer it to Sichuan.

                                  However, Cantonese is fairly easy to find; Denver is like a meadow full of Cantonese three leaf clovers. Finding authentic Sichuan is like finding a four leaf clover.

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                                    eade RE: eade Nov 28, 2010 01:06 PM

                                    One more authentic Sichuan place has sprung up in Denver:

                                    Ocean Forest Cafe on the corner of Kipling and Jewell in Lakewood.

                                    Ask for the Chinese menu. Now it is only written in Chinese, but I've listed some dishes below in English and also they will help you there with other dishes.

                                    For those of us on the west side of town, we no longer have to schlep to China Jade. Also, I think Ocean Forest Cafe beats China Jade.

                                    Recommedations:
                                    Sichuan Spicy Cold Noodles
                                    Sichuan Spicy Fish and Vegetable Stew
                                    Sichuan Spicy Fish Soup with Pickled Vegetables
                                    Pea Shoots and Garlic
                                    Water Spinach and Garlic
                                    . . . and four different kinds of hot pot which we have not tried yet, but it looked good on the tables of others we've seen order it

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                                      tatamagouche RE: eade Nov 28, 2010 02:57 PM

                                      Nice! Thanks for the heads up!

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