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Mar 1, 2009 06:09 PM

Restaurants to avoid in your neighborhood?

Many restaurant are completely ignored on this board.

What do you advise to avoid in your neighborhood in Manhattan that isn't listed here regularly?

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  1. You mean what to avoid which isn't listed here regularly as to be avoided?

    1. I question the value of mentioning them. Mentioning them gives them publicity, and someone passing the places may remember reading about them on the internet, but not that the post said to avoid the places. I'd much rather read posts about recommended places that haven't been mentioned before than bad places that didn't even rate a mention in the first place.

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      1. re: Pan

        I disagree, Pan.
        Absence of info could mean that a place is potentially very good (a hidden gem); whereas a negative review means only one thing.

      2. It's not in my neighborhood but I'd put Sammy's Roumanian at the very top of any Must Avoid list.

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        1. re: Bob Martinez

          I will forever associate Sammy's with you because of that epic post for the ages.

          1. re: ConOrama


            Going to Sammy's is like touching a red hot stove with both hands. Not only do you never want to do it again, you want to prevent other people from making the same mistake.

        2. I like the idea of places to avoid. there are probably more to avoid than to recommend.
          I dont think the "your neighborhood" matters. So I'll menion some in different neighborhoods.
          Tribeca avoids:
          Max, Pig n Whistle, Zutto, Hana Sushi, Puffy's, Greenwich Tavern, Patriot, Thalassa
          East Village: Le Miu sushi, Lan,
          Chelsea/union sq BLT fish, NY Burger,
          East 20s : East Japanese conveyor belt sushi
          Battery Park: Chevy's
          LES : noah;s Ark Deli ( if they are still in business)

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          1. re: foodwhisperer

            Why is Lan on your list? I went several months ago and had good appetizers and shabu-shabu there.

            1. re: Pan

              I found Lan and Le Miu to be fine too. Don't see why to avoid them (may be avoiding a few dishes make more sense, but not the entire restaurants for sure)

              1. re: kobetobiko

                Le Miu had shuffled off the mortal coil, which makes me very sad. Note mysterious website message:


                and Eater story:


                1. re: small h

                  It was only a matter of time, with reviews that ranked it with Yasuda and 15 east,,, i wonder how much those reviews cost to get. As far as LAN ,, i had a very bad experience there, and wont take a chance again.

                  1. re: foodwhisperer

                    One bad experience versus many positives does not qualify it to be on the must avoid list. Thats very selfish.

                    1. re: foodwhisperer

                      I never had bad experience at LAN (perhaps only with the noise there sometimes, but certainly not with the food or service).

                      I found it amusing that you listed Le Miu and LAN to be places to avoid and recommended Ninja in another post. Even for kids I found Ninja to be more fit in the "avoid" category

                      1. re: kobetobiko

                        the ch team took my LAN post off because of the allegations i made. the menu was interesting. Either the foie gras or the lobster bisque created a major problem. the staff was good, the noise level was minimal as the place was empty,, The staff was multinational, the fish for sushi was subpar.
                        Le Miu was one of the most overrated, overpriced places around. Their showy claypot dish in the omakase was showy that was it. It was an OK place that didnt deserve high ratings. . I think it was AOL that rated it on the same level as Yasuda and 15 east. which is a joke.
                        Ninja is fun for kids.. I have 2 kids, i know what kids like. Kids like fun and fun places. Ninja is entertaining for kids. Therefore , I recommended it. The food there is edible, overpriced. But it is unique in the entertainment factor,,, Kind of like East , which is terrible, but kids might like the conveyor action. Note: i ate at Ninja twice when it first opened. First time i ordered cooked and "safe " dishes and it was OK. Second time i had some sushi and cooked, it was acceptable.. I did hear more recently that the food was horrible there. None the less its fun for kids.
                        These were 2 separate posts, one cannot take out of context recs
                        I tell it like it is. I know good food and enjoy good food. I am open enough to be able to recommend places to suit certain situations or people,,, For example Ruby Foos,,, the food is not too good. But kids like it, people who would hate yasuda and 15 east would find something to eat there . Sushi Samba, although the sushi isnt too good, it is a place that I might recommend to certain people. Ive even recommended Carmine's for family style italian in the theatre district.. The food is not really good, but the meat sauce pasta is the best thingthere. The rec fit the post.
                        I respect and enjoy your posts Kobe. But understand that everyone that refers to Chowhound is not necessarily sophisticated in taste nor necessarily looking for the best. Some sushi dishes I like, most young Japanese people wont eat. I might recommend a place that serves watta, ika kimo, or toriwassa. Id recommend just for those dishes. Des Gustibus Non Est Disputandum.
                        I will keep on enjoying your posts. I respectfully apologize if I got a bit emotional here.

              2. re: foodwhisperer

                Whoah whoah whoah...I happen to like Lan.