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cvc Mar 1, 2009 10:56 AM

Zoe Nathan has a gift... and a winning smile to go with it. This morning as I stood in line for the third day in a row for my morning pastry at Josh Loeb's and Zoe Nathan's new Rustic Canyon off shoot on Wilshire Blvd. between 10th and 11th Streets in Santa Monica, Huckleberry, I marveled at the ever replenishing berry crostadas, the blueberry bundt cake, the maple bacon biscuits and a stunningly red tomato tart with fresh basil. For myself, I ordered a hefty slice of the sour cream crumble coffee cake for $5 and the cinnamon sugar donut for $2.50 to go. It's an infectious place where even the Harbor patrolman in front of me was greeting and smiling at the crowd in line while we all waited patiently to order and pay.

Patience is needed. Like Clementine's in Century City there is an inevitable back log as you peruse the remarkable display case, ask questions, place your order and then wait to pay. Mr. Loeb keeps a constant eye on the floor, retrieving one guest's latte, while Ms. Nathan restocks and answers questions. I've never met either one but on first impression they've joined those select few in Los Angeles who combine entrepreneurial skill with culinary excellence.

To the staff's credit they move you along with great good nature and resolve. They always seem to be two steps ahead, anticipating the lone donut purchase from the green eggs and ham or the delicious Neiman bacon, lettuce, tomato and avocado sandwich on their home made multi grain bread for $10.50. After less than a week in operation word is strong on the street that the veal meatball sandwich at $12 is a map placer.

American pastry: muffins, bread puddings, lemon bars and the like are deceptively difficult, and when you sample the quality of Huckleberry's, or Clementine's, Bette's Diner in Berkeley, Tartine or Citizen Cake in San Francisco, Stacy McCorkle of Sugarfix, Jan Purdy of Max and The Oinkster or Nancy Silverton in the early days of Campanile you want to rejoice. Mornings have never had it so good.

Huckleberry
1014 Wilshire Blvd.
Santa Monica, CA 90401
310/451-2311
www.huckleberrycafe.com

  1. Servorg Mar 1, 2009 12:35 PM

    I went by on my bike (slight detour) at 0400 this morning just to look at it. Very attractive, modern space and conveniently located to Santa Monica Seafood which anchors the west end of the block. Maybe next weekend I'll be able to sample their wares. Thanks for the report.

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      nosh Mar 1, 2009 01:02 PM

      I've been looking at this the wrong way -- I've been reading about the overflow crowds at Huckleberry and whatever the quality, I've been bemoaning the ridiculously high prices. Now I realize that the big crowds can't be completely wrong -- there is a market for this. Instead of resenting the flashy new kid on the block, I should appreciate my old favorite even more -- after all, if Huckleberry has them lining up for a croissant at $3.25, all the more reason I should bow a token of gratitude for the consistent and superior ones I've devoured and savored at Amandine over the past few years, at $1.50 and only recently increased to $1.95. Maybe it isn't that Huckleberry is a gross rip-off (after all, remember the huge hubbub two or three years ago when City Bakery opened to such acclaim at even higher prices) but even with the recent adjustment, Amandine is the amazing value bargain. What Huckleberry is selling at $12 for eggs or sandwiches Amandine is pricing at closer to $8. I must say, however, that any vehicle larger than a compact should be barred from Amandine's silly back lot with that extra slot of head-ins on the west that makes getting in and out a crapshoot.

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        cvc Mar 1, 2009 03:15 PM

        My office is across the street from Amandine so I can appreciate many of your sentiments about them. A while back I even decried the fact that I could not buy just one mini cupcake at Vanilla Bake Shop when I could buy a single chocolate chip cookie at Amandine for $1 (now a $1.45). But the whipped cream and fresh strawberry topped French toast notwithstanding, the two are quite different each with things to enjoy. For instance, Amandine's delicious desserts are somewhat Asian influenced European based, beautifully crafted when sometimes you just want a gooey bowl of bread pudding. If I want a blueberry muffin or an old fashioned cinnamon roll I'll head to Clementine's while. like you, Amandine satisfies any croissant craving that I might have at any price. However, on Friday mornings you'll find me at Primo's Donuts on Sawtelle near National savoring one of Mr. Primo's warm and ethereal glazed buttermilk bars for 95 cents. It doesn't get better than that.

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          Servorg Mar 1, 2009 03:21 PM

          Yesterday Mr. Primo had turned out some of the absolutely delectable buttermilk bars with a thick coating of chocolate on top. Still warm. Oh, man. I got home and inhaled it with a glass of cold milk. Nirvana.

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          Primo's
          2918 Sawtelle Blvd, Los Angeles, CA

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            nosh Mar 1, 2009 07:46 PM

            I share the love and high regard for Primo's -- they have history and a delicate, light style and some unique offerings. But it has been a LONG time since anyone mentioned another standout nearby, Royal Donuts. They are located in the middle of the strip mall on the S/E corner of Sepulveda and Palms, across from the Trader Joe's. A superior big cinnamon roll, the crispy crunchy fried glazed kind (as opposed to Primo's lighter iced), and perhaps their strongest donut is the crumb. Really hsrdworking, friendly Cambodian family owns and runs the place. A hound did a comparison a couple of years ago, and surprisingly Royal beat Primo's, for the donuts and also for the coffee.

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          rianael1 Mar 25, 2009 07:45 AM

          Nosh - I tried to look up Amandine so I could go get a croissant, but I find one in downtown LA and one in Hollywood and one out by the beach. Can you provide a link to the one with the good croissants?

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            Servorg Mar 25, 2009 08:03 AM

            You successfully found it yourself in this slightly later post: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/3213...

        3. Azizeh Mar 1, 2009 08:12 PM

          Just had lunch there the other day. I'd say skip the sandwiches (good but average and way overpriced for what they are) and go to the desserts. I had the chocolate truffle pudding and the salted caramel square, both were delicious. Had the donut which was so unremarkable that 3/4 of it was left behind. Maybe hot and fresh it would have been good, but so are most hot donuts.
          I'm not in love with Huckleberry. I'm glad it's around, but I don't see myself going back on a regular basis.

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            bruinike Mar 1, 2009 08:49 PM

            I plan on splurging on a pastry there soon. Which is your favorite? Can't decide on my own. The crostata, bundt cake or maple bacon biscuit? I also saw a slice of yellow cake with chocolate icing on another blog that looked tempting.

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              sidwich Mar 1, 2009 09:18 PM

              The maple bacon biscuit really is phenomenal, moist and flakey without feeling like a rock in the stomach. The fruit square is also really good.

              I haven't tried the crostata, but I do have to agree that $9 is pricey.

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                bruinike Mar 2, 2009 06:34 AM

                Thank you for that. I meant splurge on a high caloric treat but yes that is a bit pricey. I also just noticed on their menu a lemon cornmeal bundt cake which sounds like a contender. What a decision!

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                  baloney Mar 2, 2009 08:59 AM

                  Their tarts are also awesome, my favorite being the banana caramel or salted caramel. Their cornmeal cake is okay, if you like a moister cake. If not, go for their regular coffee cake which is very good but it does have nuts in the middle streusel.

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                    mollyomormon Mar 2, 2009 11:24 AM

                    The blueberry crostada is fantastic, but I still prefer the maple bacon biscuit. mmmm...

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                      bruinike Mar 2, 2009 12:11 PM

                      Ahhh I don't think I'll be able to decide between the two! Might be a game time decision. Does the crostata have plenty of fruit in it?

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                        mollyomormon Mar 2, 2009 12:35 PM

                        It has tons! both the filling and the crust are really wonderful.

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                          bruinike Mar 2, 2009 12:46 PM

                          Sounds amazing. Can't wait to try both. I will report back. Thank you much!

              2. BunnieBear Mar 12, 2009 08:53 PM

                I live around the corner from Huckleberry and curse its arrival's impact on the (already scarce) parking...and even more so once I ate there.

                After the frustrating and confusing wait--is there really one line? Why were people cutting? I got a brisket sandwich, carmelized onion flatbread and roasted veggies (cauliflower, sunchoke & butternut squash). While they were all yummy, at $25 for all of them plus tip, I won't be back frequently--and I think that my cardiologist will thank me. All of these items were SUPER RICH! There is no shortage of butter or olive oil--rendering them delicious! It took me three days to work through them all.

                However the hypertension from waiting in line with other like-minded Westsiders make the visit NOT worth the trip--despite living nearby.

                Plus I found the staff to be very unpleasant and more interested in avoiding eye contact than dealing with customers. A $7.50 PB&J?! Rude employees! Crowds on crowds on crowds! No matter how good the food is, count me out!

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                  Amuse Bouches Mar 12, 2009 08:55 PM

                  Agree with this. Outrageously overpriced. Tasty, but not THAT tasty.

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                    jaykayen Mar 13, 2009 05:27 AM

                    Yes, the staff is weird about eye contact!

                    I was easing over to the espresso machine, and a girl was near there, headed in my direction. I catch her eye to acknowledge her, give that little smile (I'm a girl) but her expression was not at all friendly. Very off-putting.

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                      bulavinaka Mar 19, 2009 02:29 PM

                      My maiden visit was yesterday, and I observed opposing examples of this "rude employee" issue.

                      The group of three dudes ahead of me was served by a young guy behind the counter. The group was busy talking among themselves and not really giving the server the immediate attention he deserved (considering how crowded it was) but finally started to order their drinks. They were cut off by the server, who was insisting that the customers order their food first, as this would take much longer to prepare than their food. The server was a bit more curt than I as a customer would have liked, and this was obvious with the three guys who then cut off the server and told him in no uncertain terms that they weren't ordering anything from the kitchen - they only wanted stuff from the case. The server did seem a little backed up in the corner after that little tiff.

                      The young lady who served me was just the opposite. Very welcoming, ready to take my order, and happy to make any suggestions. Maybe I helped because I always try to be ready to jump right in with my order when places are so obviously impacted with customers. Moreover, I try to be as friendly and polite as I would hope the person opposite me would be in return.

                      I think maybe we tend to be a little unforgiving to folks who are in service roles. The guy in the first observation was obviously just trying to get the group's order going since they weren't feeling any sense of urgency to do so, especially given the congestion. The server looked frazzled - definitely in need of a break. Who knows - maybe he's just not suited for this work. Maybe he had a run of rough customers - the location is conducive to all sorts of folks - old school Santa Monica folks, good. New school Santa Monica folks, hmmm. And given the wait and the congestion, even the best of folks - customers as well as servers - can become a little tense and pensive. As busy as HK seems, I'm guessing they're crazy-busy from opening to close time.

                      I'm one who believes that there are limits to what the human animal can take in terms of input. Multi-tasking is a term that shows we have just gone a little to far beyond what is humane to our own species. So if you happen to drop by HK next time, or anywhere for that matter, be ready, be polite, and show some empathy. You'll know that YOU did the right thing. :)

                      1. re: bulavinaka
                        mollyomormon Mar 19, 2009 06:58 PM

                        I just wanted to confirm that this has been my experience at Huckleberry as well. From time to time, certain of the staff seemed overwhelmed, but I've never had anyone be rude like I've heard described in other threads about Sweet Lady Jane.

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                          bulavinaka Mar 19, 2009 07:49 PM

                          Not even in the same twisted universe as SLJ. These folks behind the counter are working pretty darned hard. It seems there's no let-up - no time to just gas off and sigh for a moment. Doe-eyed people (like me) who are new to this place make it even tougher, given that the line is blocking the cases, etc. I wonder if they might take a queue from certain eateries that hand you a list to check off what you want to order as you walk in. They already use a combination menu list/tab at the counter - why not at least offer the option to customers who know what they want? Just an idea...

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                      kevin Mar 14, 2009 02:11 PM

                      not only are the prices atrocious but rude employees in this economy? how do they get by?

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                        Servorg Mar 14, 2009 03:13 PM

                        The owner probably read that well known Harvard Business School case study that was done on another highly successful LA area baked goods business - Sweet Lady Jane, and decided to copy their business model. ;-D>

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                          kevin Mar 14, 2009 03:17 PM

                          In that case, they have a good 30 years at least, ahead of them.

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                          mollyomormon Mar 15, 2009 03:03 PM

                          I've been there a number of times since it opened and never experienced rude service. In the first few days, some of the servers seemed overwhelmed from time to time, but certainly never rude. Let's not get a SLJ style bashing thread started by folks who haven't eaten there yet...

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                            baloney Mar 15, 2009 04:32 PM

                            Agree with molly, I've never experienced nor seen bad/rude service from the Huckleberry folks in all the times I've been.

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                        bulavinaka Mar 13, 2009 08:44 AM

                        I just scanned their website for hours - 8AM open time. Ain't that sorta late for folks who want to grab breakfast or yum-yums on the run? Not that it seems that they need the business for now but I'd imagine they'd do quite a bit more if they opened at least an hour earlier.

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                          BunnieBear Mar 13, 2009 08:59 PM

                          There's a note on their blackboard saying that they are planning on increasing their hours. Now it's just Wed thru Sun 8a-4p. With the seeming struggle they have to be pleasant for 8 hours, let's not press them.

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                            NumeroUnoEat Mar 13, 2009 09:15 PM

                            Ha!

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                              bulavinaka Mar 14, 2009 08:06 AM

                              Good news - thanks. Those weekday hours don't work for me personally, and from the sound of it, forget about trying on the weekends for now. I'd bet your sweet little Papillon would change their disposition. :)

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                                BunnieBear Mar 14, 2009 08:35 AM

                                Aw, shucks...thanks!

                          2. uhockey Mar 20, 2009 05:43 AM

                            Anyone knwo when they plan to expand hours?

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                              a213b Mar 25, 2009 09:27 AM

                              Maybe it was just me, but when I tried it Saturday morning with my wife and a couple friends, we were underwhlemed (relative to the glowing reviews we've read here).

                              My wife had the Fried-Egg sandwich, and I had the Niman-Ranch Brisket hash. Neither one of us finished our dish, nor were we in ANY sort of hurry to take it with us. It's not that they were bad, they weren't. They were both just a little under-seasoned, and lacked any depth in terms of flavor.

                              I will say that our friend thought her Cured Salmon Sandwich was delicious, and her son had a PB & Nutella on Brioche that was delicious (I ended up eating half of it!) ... but, I mean come on, I can make or buy a brioche and put my own PB & Nutella on it.

                              I was not able to try the maple/bacon biscuit as they were out for the day, and I thoroughly enjoyed the Salted Caramel bar I tried, so I am willing to give this place another shot ... maybe their pastry/bread options are the way to go, and maybe we just did not choose the right savory/hot dishes. The problem is, with Amandine right down the road and me not living in the area, I will be hard pressed to pass it up to hit Huckleberry.

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                                bulavinaka Mar 25, 2009 09:48 AM

                                IMHO, your own tastes are the most important, right? I didn't order anything from the kitchen on my maiden visit a week ago. But the items from their cases and on the counter were good to excellent. I've only tried a few things but here's my thoughts. Good: banana bread pudding, croissant. Very good: "spicy" tomato chic peas (not spicy on my scale - warm them before serving), the fruit bars - the ones with berries. Excellent: maple bacon biscuit - should be BACON/maple biscuit, cinnamon donut, pumpkin teacake. Personally, I think of HB as a bakery first that happens to serve some menu items as well. This place is new and still very chaotic so I wonder if they've been able to dial in their kitchen items yet?

                                If Amandine is more to your liking, you can't go wrong. I still like them as well - just a personal preference. I don't think I've ever tried anything there, particularly from their case and counter, that was just average. Everything there is well prepared in their vision of things.

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                                  a213b Mar 25, 2009 12:04 PM

                                  Bula, I was thinking the same thing, that perhaps it's their bakery items that are the best. I will say, again, that the salted caramel on top of (IIRC) a shortbread cookie was delicious, and their donut holes were tasty too, as well as that brioche.

                                  I play in a SM soccer league every Saturday, so we've been trying various brunch places; maybe this next weekend I'll head back and grab some of the items you suggest, because I did have a good experience with the ones I tried.

                                  Oh, and just as a point for all, I found everyone there on Staff to be both efficient and polite ... some super polite.

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                                    bulavinaka Mar 25, 2009 12:13 PM

                                    Again, I didn't order any kitchen items so I can't comment either way. But when confronted with so much bakery-like goods at the counter, I'm good just ordering from there. I just let my eyes (and sometimes nose) lead me to what I might prefer - I am sure you're the same. I stared down the salted caramel but had to stop short of it - already ordered too much before even getting to that case. But I will order from front to back next time to give those beauties a try. GOOOOOOOOOAL-LAH!!!

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                                      mollyomormon Mar 25, 2009 12:30 PM

                                      I love those salted caramel bars! They're so incredibly rich that I can nibble on one as a sweet treat for an entire afternoon and they're realatively inexpensive compared to many of the other baked goods. I also tried the whole wheat fruit bar (blueberry) that I think you mentioned further up this thread over the weekend. Not cheap by any stretch and not one of the prettier pastries in the case, but damn, this was delicious. I'll also be pretending like it was good for me given that it had whole wheat in the name and was packed with blueberries ;).

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                                        bulavinaka Mar 25, 2009 12:34 PM

                                        That's the one - the whole wheat fruit bar with blueberries. I'm a sucker for those styles of bars at bakeries - Jamaica's Cakes always has them - lately it's been peach over there. I think the ingredients in the caramels as well as the bars covers at least most of the major food groups; therefore, they are healthy, right? Right?!?!:)

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                                          mollyomormon Mar 25, 2009 12:41 PM

                                          Yes, you have to eat both of them and then you have a complete, well-balanced meal!

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                                perlies Mar 25, 2009 10:40 AM

                                Since when does a neighborhood coffee shop not open until 8am?

                                1. mollyomormon Apr 10, 2009 10:30 AM

                                  I have to bump this to talk about how much I love the three-salad sampler at Huckleberry. I've had it twice in the past week and it may have replaced Clementine's salad sampler in my rotation, which is saying a lot. So far, I have tried the roasted butternut squash, cauliflower and shaved jerusalem artichoke; the cumin roasted carrots and avocado; the sour black kale with pine nuts and golden raisins; and the farro with mint and cucumber. Incidentally, if anyone knows where to purchase farro other than Huckleberry, I'd love to know so I can experiment with it at home. The salads come with a big hunk of Zoe Nathan's wheat bread which is really excellent. These are slightly edging out Clementine's salads for me just because Clementine's can sometimes just be a little too oily. Still the yogurt marinated grilled chicken salad at Clementine is delicious. Also, I think they may have bumped the price up on the whole wheat fruit bar at Hucleberry, but my god, it's taking a lot of restraint for me not to go there once a day to get one.

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                                    baloney Apr 10, 2009 12:59 PM

                                    I've seen packaged farro at Whole Foods in the rice(or pasta?) aisle. Love Huckleberry's salad bar also! Their tomato chickpea thing was really good last time I had it.

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                                      mollyomormon Apr 10, 2009 01:23 PM

                                      thank you!! i just discovered i have mint growing in my yard so i'm going to have to try to replicate that salad...

                                  2. tablefor1 Apr 10, 2009 12:01 PM

                                    the bread here is THE BEST in town right now.

                                    white bean, chicken and bacon soup was delicious and a cup was just the right amount.

                                    morning buns are identical to tartine in san francisco, but the trip to santa monica is much shorter, so do stop by and try the pastries - it's a great new treat!

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