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DietStartsTomorrow Feb 27, 2009 04:55 AM

Having read Stuart Maconie's raves about this market - esp the food and George Katsouris' deli - am curious to visit. Just wondered what other CHounds have made of the place - does it live up to the hype?
Also, where is the best place in bury to buy black pudding? thanks in advance

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    Sharmila RE: DietStartsTomorrow Feb 27, 2009 06:39 AM

    I haven't gone for a few years, but from memory, there are 2 or 3 places that sell black pudding with mustard sauce. Yum. However, I find it quite amusing that Maconie goes on about Kastouris in Pies and Prejudice in the way he does, turning Bury Market into some semi-mythical place. They opened a brand on Deansgate about 3-4 years ago`1

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      Harters RE: DietStartsTomorrow Feb 27, 2009 08:00 AM

      DST

      Bury market vies with the one at Bolton as the region's "best by a country mile". Traditional market so don't expect a gourmet experience (such as I regularly read here about London markets). Lots of good quality fruit & veg (I'd kill for that sort of quality in the south of the metropolitian area).

      All the butchery/cooked meat stalls will sell black pudding but there are really only two main contenders. There's the "Bury Black Pudding Company (or similar name). That's the one that gets all the press coverage and is trying to trademark the name. Then there's Chadwicks.

      You want Chadwicks.

      You'll be offered hot or cold. Hot if you're going to eat it then (on a balmcake; lots of mustard). Cold if you're going to take it away (it'll freeze happily).

      You'll be offered fat or lean. Don't even begin to consider buying lean.

      You may come across puddings from R & S Ireland. These are not very good, IMO but they do offer a completely veggie black pudding, which may be a novelty thing if you have a tame vegetarian in the family. Not a bad pud - say like a supermarket one. They sell at a lot of our local farmers markets and use the same spicing, etc, as in the usual puds - the only thing missing is the pigs blood.

      As for Katsouris, it's not a bad deli. Good range of cooked meats, eastern European sausages, salamis and so on. You'd want to have a look if you're on the market but I wouldn't go much out of my way for it.

      J

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        DietStartsTomorrow RE: Harters Feb 27, 2009 08:26 AM

        Wow - thanks for the replies guys...especially all the detail Harters! Sounds like it's worth a trip for the black pudding alone, even if it means dieting for the month after to get my cholestrol down....Chadwicks it is.

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          Harters RE: DietStartsTomorrow Feb 27, 2009 08:51 AM

          Now, if this was me, I would turn this into a full foodie day out. This is the recommended Harters tour:

          Bury market in the morning (pud on barmcake if peckish)

          Drive to Bolton (about 15 minutes or so). Lunch at the Olive Press. This is one a mini-chain of now reasonable Italianish places from north west uberchef, Paul Heathcote. You book this through Toptable, securing your 50% discount (the one near me does not make this offer, so you're already on a winner).

          You then "do" Bolton market in the afternoon, which is an indoor one but the fish is much better than Bury and there's a better range of "south asian" stalls (although you'd be better off for that in Manchester's Rusholme - but leave that for another trip).

          john

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            Simon Majumdar RE: Harters Feb 27, 2009 11:19 AM

            Don't dismiss the Bury Black Pudding Co so easily, although they have branded themselves, the family have been making BP's for generations and do them very well. They stand up very well to Chadwicks.

            If you are visiting the market, make sure you go to Harry Muffin's for some Eccles and, even better, Chorley cakes and, while you are in the town head up to The Walmersley Chippy (Walmersley Road) which is one of the best I have been to in the UK

            S

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              Harters RE: Simon Majumdar Feb 27, 2009 11:28 AM

              I certainly don't dismiss them, Simon. Good puds. I just know which pudding I prefer - that's the only basis on which I can give any recc.

              J

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          mr_gimlet RE: Harters Feb 27, 2009 12:29 PM

          Lean black pudding?! Never heard of it. Is that in case you have a supermodel over for breakfast - I'll have the fried eggs, bacon, sausage, fried bread and lean black pudding.

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            Harters RE: mr_gimlet Feb 28, 2009 07:45 AM

            We're very health conscious up here in the north west, I'll have you know.

            As another example, I'll cite the Wigan Kebab.

            J

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              DietStartsTomorrow RE: Harters Mar 2, 2009 06:38 AM

              Hi John - what is a wigan kebab? Am curious as to whether you ever tried those pie-type specialities they do in Stoke-on-Trent. I remember listening to a radio programme about them once as there are fears they are dying out due to the closure of the factories...can't recall the name of them, though

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                Harters RE: DietStartsTomorrow Mar 2, 2009 07:24 AM

                Ahha. I love it when I'm working with a good straight wo/man.

                The Wigan Kebab?

                Three pies on a stick!

                Boom, boom. (Uncontrolled and uproarious laughter is heard all across the board).

                Pies from Stoke, though? You'll need to give me a clue. I can only think of oatcakes from round there.

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                  DietStartsTomorrow RE: Harters Mar 2, 2009 08:50 AM

                  Ha - I guess I walked right into that! I only hope they have brown sauce on them!

                  re stoke. Not sure if they were pies or some sort of sandwich, barm cake, but it is a local speciality that have been sold for years as 'fast food' for pottery workers. All I can remember is that they had different fillings and sounded quite interesting.

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                    Harters RE: DietStartsTomorrow Mar 2, 2009 09:30 AM

                    :-0

                    I still reckon you're thinking of the oatcake. A thickish savoury pancake sort of thing and an integral part of the traditional Staffordshire "full breakfast". You can grill or fry it and just have it on the plate as your brekkie carb. Or, as Mrs H prefers, sprinkled with some grated cheese, grilled and then wrapped around whatever else you've cooked (usually bacon in her case). I have a vague recollection of the "Potteries Wrap" appearing in one of the Rick Stein "Food Heroes" programmes.

                    If it was them that you recall being under threat, then they may be having a fight-back. They're on the shelves of my local Sainsbury's in posh North Cheshire. Thoroughly recommend them if you find them

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                      Simon Majumdar RE: Harters Mar 4, 2009 12:06 PM

                      I have been invited up to meet Andy at R.S Ireland to make some black puds next week, so it will be interesting to make a comparison given your thoughts about them above, Harters

                      will report back

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                        Harters RE: Simon Majumdar Mar 4, 2009 01:12 PM

                        Not sufficiently spiced or peppered for my taste, Simon.

                        However, I will be having them for dinner on Friday - the "proper" non-veggie ones (bought at Ashton under Lyne Farmers Market) - along with some Woodall's Cumberland sausage and parsnips (Mrs H has found a Nigel Slater recipe in "Kitchen Diaries")

                        I'll be interested to read your take on them on the DH blog (or here, of course). Have a good trip the region.

                        John

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                          DietStartsTomorrow RE: Harters Jul 16, 2009 06:10 AM

                          Thanks for all your recc for this and I will certainly be following them up. Am planning to go second week of august and make a day of it. I'll be going black pudding, chorley cake et all buying big time...one last request: where's the place to buy pies (espeically pork pies) round there? My dad loves them - hot out of the oven if neccessary.

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                            Harters RE: DietStartsTomorrow Jul 16, 2009 07:40 AM

                            There's certainly a couple or so pie stalls on the market. Dunno whether they're any good though.

                            Keep a eye out for Park Farm. They come from Bury so may sell at the market (they're always at my farmers market). Good range of dessert pies - nowt fancy! Look out for the wimberry - a thing of joy with some double cream.

                            J

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          eyedropper RE: DietStartsTomorrow Apr 15, 2009 05:22 AM

          Bury market's a great place and a cracking day out, just don't go on a Tuesday. I love proper markets like this, Swansea's got a good one too. Bury in particular have done a lot of work to ensure the provenance and quality of the stall holders. As Bury Market manager John Ayers said to me 'off the market' is seen at best, cheap, at worse counterfeit or hooky (the realm of Del boys)

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            DietStartsTomorrow RE: eyedropper Apr 15, 2009 06:50 AM

            why not tuesday? is it mobbed?

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              Nii RE: DietStartsTomorrow Jul 16, 2009 01:18 PM

              I hear only good things about this place. How does it differ to Borough?

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                Harters RE: Nii Jul 16, 2009 02:20 PM

                Bury market could not be further away from the style and pretension of Borough.

                Firstly, it's a "proper" market, not just food. Most stalls are selling coats, shoes, bedding and the like. Those that are selling food, are selling food that ordinary people can afford to buy. No specialist "artisan" producers. I doubt you'd find an organic carrot. Or a free range pork chop

                Most traders at Borough would be out of business within a month if they had to depend on selling at Bury. "How much, Love? For a bit of haddock? You must be joking!"

                I love it.

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            Harters RE: DietStartsTomorrow Sep 9, 2009 05:18 AM

            It's a rare nice day up here and I needed a bit of shopping so I popped in the car and whizzed round the M60.

            Deliberately didnt have brekkie as I wanted to do a black pudding taste. As upthread, there are two main staffs selling the hot pud - Chadwick's and the Bury Black Pudding Co. For years, Chadwicks has been the locals' favourite and you hear the accents of the day tripping folk from "not round here" at the other stall.

            First to Chadwicks - 90p for a "traditional" pud (i.e. with fat)- help yourself to sauce and/or piccalli.A firm pud with good spicing and some fat but unusually dry. Mustard was of the "rip your throat out " variety. A short walk round the market and back to the other staff. £1 a pud, mustard more refined. The pud not as peppery but a moister texture that was pleasanter to eat. I bought four for the freezer.

            I also came away with other goodies from the market - six pigeon breasts for a fiver; dry cured bacon that looks good; some merguez sausage; haslet for a lunchtime salad or butty. And some cheese - no small producers (this isnt Borough Market for heaven's sake) but some good stuff from biggish producers - bought some Snowdonia Black Bomb and Grandma Singleton's Lancashire ("extra tasty" of course). And a couple of Chorley cakes - almost as big as a dinner platde.

            Weighed up the cheap polo shirts and the replica designer watches but didnt buy anything. Marks & Sparks "seconds" were doing great trade with the day tripping old biddies.

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