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Need a stand mixer for Challah

I'm looking for recommendations for a stand mixer. I'd like it to be strong enough to make a batch of challah with 5 lbs. of flour to be able to do hafrashat challah. I'm told most mixers are not up to this task. Every I speak to refers me to the Bosch Universal Machine, but I am hesitant to buy German. Does anybody have experience with other mixers that are up to the task? Does anybody have any experience with the Cuisinart 7 qt. mixer?

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  1. I thought the machine of choice in the frum community to be able to do enough dough to do hafrashat challah was Magi-Mix, but I just did a Google search, and nothing comes up under that name. Am I so far off, or is that a real machine, perhaps now out of business?

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    1. re: queenscook

      do you mean Magic Mill? I know that's the brand a friend of mine uses.

      1. re: cheesecake17

        Yes, that's it. Thanks. I don't have one, so I can't recommend it to brooklyner myself, but I know someone that uses it all the time; I think she's happy with it.

        1. re: queenscook

          Magic Mill is actually owned by Electrolux. You can probably find more info on their site. Personally, I have the Bosch which turns out great challah dough. I still use my Kitchenaid for baking b/c I love it and also I never bothered to figure out how to use the Bosch as a mixer. My parents and grandparents were very careful about not buying German products, but nowadays most companies are subsidiaries of other multinational companies or their products are made in countries with a cheaper labor pool. My husband had a BMW (owned by Chrysler at the time) that was actually made in North Carolina.

          1. re: queenscook

            Just found out my mom has one too. She said it's kind of heavy and clunky- so not the kind of thing to leave on the counter. I've seen her make challah (not knowing what the machine was called) and it's pretty simple.

      2. I know a few people who swear by old commercial kitchen/restaurant Hobarts that are still running strong. Would you be willing to get a used machine?

        1. I just saw one mentioned in a Boro Park local flyer as "the" machine for challa-making but I don't remember the brand name. It stayed in mind because I hadn't even known there was one that was favored for this use, but it stands to reason, because whoever makes challah every week needs a machine that will stand up to tough use. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be the Bosch, BTW.

          How about checking at a Boro Park or Williamsburg electronic and home appliances store? They'd probably know exactly what you're talking about even over the phone. I'm thinking of Duddy's Electronics on 15th Avenue, AB Electronics on Coney Island Avenue, those are two that sell a lot to the heimishe crowd.

          1. Sorry for being a naive goyim (please be patient -- I enjoy making bread, but never that much all at once and have not yet tried my hand at challah), but why not join together multiple batches of dough prepared in a more typical stand mixer? By intermixing batches, I think the batches should end up with an even consistentcy .

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            1. re: MikeB3542

              I imagine the answer would be time related. It's not true of everyone, but people who work, have kids, etc. probably would choose to avoid the extra 15-30 minutes it would probably take to do the additional measuring, any clean-up needed, and the kneading of the second batch.

            2. Sorry you want to avoid Bosch because their mixers are terrific. I have a Compact and intend to make challah (although probably not with eggs) with it--it's a little tank. BTW, they're no longer manufactured in Germany but are still made in Europe (Slovenia in this case); I realize, though, that they're German-based.

              Electrolux (which I seem to recall had a rather unsavory reputation with regard to the Third Reich although the specifics escape me) recently sold the rights to the Assistent/DLX/Magic Mill to the Swedish factory that has produced it since time immemorial. I believe it might be the oldest continuously operating factories of any kind in Europe and I'm pretty sure they produce the motors for Vitamix's home-use blenders, too. It's a FANTASTIC mixer (in particular for yeast breads) but extremely expensive, especially with the dollar being as weak as it is. Should you be interested, The Bread Beckers have videos on their site demonstrating both the Bosch Universal Plus and the DLX: http://www.breadbeckers.com/store/pc/... ; there are several excellent demos of the Bosch Compact on YouTube. The problem, with any of these, is that unless you're dedicating your mixer to one type of food only, the price of doubling up on attachments is very high, i.e. if you wish to make, say, both pareve and dairy goods.