599544 Thu Feb 26 15:05:46 -0800 2009 9 41 Cookware 0 4455504 I'm looking for recommendations for a stand mixer. I'd like it to be strong enough to make a batch of challah with 5 lbs. of flour to be able to do hafrashat challah. I'm told most mixers are not up to this task. Every I speak to refers me to the Bosch Universal Machine, but I am hesitant to buy German. Does anybody have experience with other mixers that are up to the task? Does anybody have any experience with the Cuisinart 7 qt. mixer? Thu Feb 26 15:05:46 -0800 2009 270142 brooklyner 1 4455552 I thought the machine of choice in the frum community to be able to do enough dough to do hafrashat challah was Magi-Mix, but I just did a Google search, and nothing comes up under that name. Am I so far off, or is that a real machine, perhaps now out of business? Thu Feb 26 15:24:50 -0800 2009 4455504 159087 queenscook 2 4455747 do you mean Magic Mill? I know that's the brand a friend of mine uses. Thu Feb 26 16:42:04 -0800 2009 4455552 217807 cheesecake17 3 4455802 Yes, that's it. Thanks. I don't have one, so I can't recommend it to brooklyner myself, but I know someone that uses it all the time; I think she's happy with it. Thu Feb 26 16:59:40 -0800 2009 4455747 159087 queenscook 4 4456072 Magic Mill is actually owned by Electrolux. You can probably find more info on their site. Personally, I have the Bosch which turns out great challah dough. I still use my Kitchenaid for baking b/c I love it and also I never bothered to figure out how to use the Bosch as a mixer. My parents and grandparents were very careful about not buying German products, but nowadays most companies are subsidiaries of other multinational companies or their products are made in countries with a cheaper labor pool. My husband had a BMW (owned by Chrysler at the time) that was actually made in North Carolina. Thu Feb 26 18:33:14 -0800 2009 4455802 178399 websterhall1994 4 4456117 Just found out my mom has one too. She said it's kind of heavy and clunky- so not the kind of thing to leave on the counter. I've seen her make challah (not knowing what the machine was called) and it's pretty simple. Thu Feb 26 18:49:34 -0800 2009 4455802 217807 cheesecake17 1 4459728 I know a few people who swear by old commercial kitchen/restaurant Hobarts that are still running strong. Would you be willing to get a used machine? Fri Feb 27 21:33:12 -0800 2009 4455504 183643 sfumato 1 4461668 I just saw one mentioned in a Boro Park local flyer as "the" machine for challa-making but I don't remember the brand name. It stayed in mind because I hadn't even known there was one that was favored for this use, but it stands to reason, because whoever makes challah every week needs a machine that will stand up to tough use. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be the Bosch, BTW. How about checking at a Boro Park or Williamsburg electronic and home appliances store? They'd probably know exactly what you're talking about even over the phone. I'm thinking of Duddy's Electronics on 15th Avenue, AB Electronics on Coney Island Avenue, those are two that sell a lot to the heimishe crowd. Sat Feb 28 18:39:40 -0800 2009 4455504 101197 falconress 1 4461916 Sorry for being a naive goyim (please be patient -- I enjoy making bread, but never that much all at once and have not yet tried my hand at challah), but why not join together multiple batches of dough prepared in a more typical stand mixer? By intermixing batches, I think the batches should end up with an even consistentcy . Sat Feb 28 20:48:52 -0800 2009 4455504 219575 MikeB3542 2 4464679 I imagine the answer would be time related. It's not true of everyone, but people who work, have kids, etc. probably would choose to avoid the extra 15-30 minutes it would probably take to do the additional measuring, any clean-up needed, and the kneading of the second batch. Sun Mar 01 22:05:16 -0800 2009 4461916 159087 queenscook