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Feb 25, 2009 06:02 PM

Top Chef Finale Pt. 2(spoilers)

starting this just to get it over with... :)

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    1. re: goodhealthgourmet

      yeah but the sous vide makes me nervous...

      1. re: AMFM

        i said it was cool that she's back *before* she was paired with Carla & convinced her to attempt this sous vide nonsense :)

        1. re: goodhealthgourmet

          What a total disaster for Carla. Fine, foolish her, paying any attention to Casey.
          Wish Carla had Blaise....

          1. re: pitu

            I do too. But it wasn't like Casey put a gun to Carla's head. This was a painful elsson for Carla but it will make her so much better as a chef. A hell of a lot better than Casey.

            1. re: pitu

              I really do want to put Casey on my shitlist. She made me so mad! However, it was ultimately Carla who decided to listen to Casey.

              1. re: Miss Needle

                Carla's a big girl. She should have taken control...but she gave it up. Really too bad.

                1. re: LindaWhit

                  It really was too bad...I was hoping Carla would get Richard. And whmuo does a SOUFFLE for a Top Chef finale? Too much can (and did) go wrong.

                  While I was not supportive of Hosea throughout the season, he clearly had the best meal of the night.

          1. re: ChefJune

            Not Casey's fault. Carla made her own choices. If she had trusted her own instincts instead of second-guessing herself with Casey's suggestions, she just might have won the whole thing.

            1. re: chicgail

              Totally agree - esp. for Carla. Her biggest errors, early in the season, were not taking charge and 2nd guessing herself. Listening to Casey got her into the old pattern where she was less successful, instead of the more recent pattern where she'd been kicking butt.

              1. re: Bob Loblaw

                If you read her comments, she completely realizes what happened even though she specifically knew that she had to guard against second guessing herself and remaining true to her own vision. I imagine it is difficult NOT to get swept away in the intensity of a Top Chef finale. So sad, though.

            2. re: ChefJune

              "she was Carla's undoing, imho."
              I agree. While I also agree that it was Carla's fault ultimately, Casey should have Kept Her Mouth SHUT. She's been in the finals and she should have let Carla run the show instead of trying to take over. D*mmit!! When I heard Carla say regarding sous vide, "What's that? I've never done that before," I said to Mr. PG, "She just lost. She's toast." Carla was overpowered by Casey because she is too kind and doesn't have confidence in her own cooking (which I guess is why she doesn't deserve to be TC). I'll bet she will never let that happen again.

              In the words of Kevin Kline's character, Otto, in A Fish Called Wanda: DISAPPOINTED!!

          2. interesting sous chefs! also interesting who they picked!

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            1. re: AMFM

              "He's a bit of a t***, but who isn't?"

              Edited before the FCC comes in ;-)

                1. re: momjamin

                  isn't that one of the 7 dirty words?

                  1. re: momjamin

                    It wasn't edited on the West Coast, even during the THIRD repeat of the episode last night.

                      1. re: pisang goreng

                        maybe the censors caught it as twit???

                        1. re: AMFM

                          Seriously there's no way that that could be mistaken for anything but what it was! LOL Obviously, being a cable station (and being on after 10pm) there's a bit more leeway.

                          1. re: AMFM

                            Either way, I thought it was hilarious- Stefan's gotten away with alot this season, including his *cock* comment from Blue Hill episode- LOVE IT(and agree a little bit- talented, yes, but that hair and tude...oh boy!)

                      2. re: AMFM

                        DAMN - I missed the first 5 minutes because of watching LOST, which went to 10:06 - who had first pick, etc. And I'm assuming Stefan said the twat line about Marcel?

                        1. re: LindaWhit

                          Hosea had 1st pick, Stefan 2nd, Carla 3rd.

                          and yes, Stefan called Marcel a twat.

                      3. I think Hosea has the advantage. Hoping Marcel screws Stephan. BIG.

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                        1. re: Phaedrus

                          Hosea has a HUGE advantage - Blais could really help him win this thing...even with scallops (i can't believe he's doing scallops.)

                        2. Did Stafan just call Marcel a tw*t?

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                          1. re: amethiste

                            I can't believe I missed that - I'll have to watch it again at 11pm (at least the first 5 minutes! LOL)

                          2. Uh oh. Casey talked Carla into the sou-vide. This could be killer.

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                            1. re: Phaedrus

                              Yeah I don't feel good about that. How are you going to experiment when the stakes are sooo high

                              1. re: amethiste

                                The thing with Carla is that she is all about flavors and simplicity. This is just not her style. Be true to thine self!

                                1. re: Phaedrus

                                  oh my God STAND UP FOR YOURSELF CARLA!

                                  1. re: LaLa

                                    Carla so needs to stop, take a breath and remember what got her to the end.

                                    1. re: LaLa

                                      agreed!!!!!! who the h____ wants to eat a sous vided NY strip? and while a perfectly executed blue cheese souffle sounds fine her idea was too and easier to execute. so will be hosea. and really not loving casey. she should keep her mouth shut.

                                      1. re: AMFM

                                        casey is pushing down paths that are potentially wrong for Carla.

                                        1. re: smtucker

                                          imho, Casey should have kept her mouth shut. Sous job is to back up the top gun, not change the direction.

                                          Ah well, she has the car, and all that publicity!

                                          1. re: ChefJune

                                            Like I said above, Casey did not change the direction. Carla didn't trust herself and it was her undoing. A shame, but not Casey's fault.

                                            1. re: chicgail

                                              not her FAULT. agreed. carla was responsible. but casey should have shut up. it wasn't her job. not too mention they weren't very good suggestions. seriously it almost seemed like sabotage.

                                              1. re: AMFM

                                                You know, that thought had crossed my mind. Perhaps it was subconcious sabotage?

                                                1. re: AMFM

                                                  It is the job of a good sous chef to offer input. In Richard Blais' blog about the finally he states that he and Hosea discussed the idea of sous vide for the venison but the idea was ultimately rejected. Should Richard have "shut up" as well?

                                                  1. re: kmcarr

                                                    It could be very smart to discuss sous vide as an option. You prepare the protein, season and bag it, and then it requires very little attention while you attend to other parts of your menu.

                                                    I will admit I am not as enthusiastic member of the Carla contingent as many on this board. I like her sense of humor and heart, and I'll agree she has had a couple of recent unexpected triumphs. But she does tend to take a lot of time before her ideas emerge, and even last week she was shucking oysters forever. Some of Casey's suggestions should have been rejected out of hand -- sous vide is not for a strip loin, and not unless you've practiced it for competition -- but some of her allegations or explanations, like the time management or sauce, should be easily factchecked.

                                                    1. re: nosh

                                                      I'm puzzled by the "I worked on a sauce that didn't go on the plate" allegation. The third course definitely had a sauce, which the judges loved (regardless of who made it, it was on the plate!). The fourth course was cobbled together literally at the last minute, and even if there had been a sauce planned, it didn't necessarily belong on the plate that went out.

                                                      That leaves the other two courses. The judges liked the first course and loved the second course, so if there was a sauce for either one of those that Carla didn't put on the plate, obviously it was the right decision, AND, more important, it was Carla's decision to make. She wasn't obligated to put a sauce on a plate just because Casey had made it!

                                                      In other words, the more carefully you look at what Casey said, the more it's clear she's full of shit.

                                                      1. re: nosh

                                                        Carla does indeed take a long time to emerge with an idea, but the idea is always pretty darned impressive, given she had the time. The bit about Casey's input which was troublesome wasn't that she offered the ideas, but it is the matter of fact way that she assumed that this is the ways its going to be. I think Casey saw the carla worked and thought either benignly or malevolently, that she could bully her way into having her input used on the show.

                                                        In a way, this is her way of showing off even after she'd lost. I kind of pieced this view together by the way she reacted to the criticism of her. She knew that she was put one over and the fact that it failed miserably put her on the defensive and she then tried to slither out from under the weight of her part of the responsibility. She obviously had her own ego in mind when she made the suggestions.

                                                        The difference between her and Blais as far as input is concerned, is that Blais had a chef who was able to make decisions quickly, which was actually part of his downfall, but in this case it helped him. Blais also assumed nothing as far as getting his ideas accepted.

                                          2. re: LaLa

                                            Carla's had this problem before - i said it was her Achilles' heel a long time ago, and it's why i was skeptical that she had what it takes to win this thing. she's not very good at thinking on the fly or dealing with twists, and Casey's just going to railroad her into doing things she doesn't want to because she can't make a decision herself.

                                        2. re: amethiste

                                          agreed. her method of simple is working! why switch now!

                                        3. re: Phaedrus

                                          sous vide or not, i just get the feeling that Blais is due for redemption. uh oh.

                                          1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                            It certainly looks like they're setting it up that way.