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Feb 25, 2009 02:15 PM

irish whole meal flour

does anyone know where I can buy (in SF) real irish whole meal flour to make authentic tasting soda bread? I went by the place I last bought it in West Portal but the store was closed.

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  1. Have you tried John Campbell's?

    John Campbell's Irish Bakery
    5625 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94121

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    1. re: wolfe

      yeh unfortunately they didn't have any of the stuff I needed for soda bread.
      another friend told me to check out the Roxie Market on 9th and Kirkham.

      1. re: dzime

        If all else fails there appears to be a mix.

        "If you'd simply like a quick soda bread fix, Sticky Fingers Bakeries offers a just-add-water mix that results in crumbly bread with lots of caraway and buttermilk flavor. Sticky Fingers Irish Soda Bread mix is $6 at and at some Cost Plus locations."

        1. re: wolfe

          Traditional Irish soda bread only contains wholemeal flour, buttermilk, baking soda and salt. When you start adding other ingredients like caraway, butter and eggs, its not traditional anymore. Real wholemeal flour can be purchased through . I have also purched Irish-Style wholemeal flour from the King Arthur Flour website.

        2. re: dzime

          If you can't find it easily in SF, you can order some, or contact King Arthur to ask who carries their product in the Bay Area:

          1. re: citygalsf

            thanks that really looks like the real thing!

            1. re: dzime

              That's NOT the real thing. If you're going to order flour by mail (including the steep shipping), you might as well order Odlums from the aforementioned . Irish flour is unique, white and wholemeal.

              1. re: MacGuffin

                I just checked, that's the brand I bought at Roxie's.

                1. re: dzime

                  You got the real deal! I've used both the Coarse and the Extra Coarse. Since it didn't seem to make a whole lot of difference, I just stick with the Extra Coarse now, mixed with a bit of the Cream.

      2. hey dzime, what IS irish whole meal flour? Wheat? Rye? Whole wheat? Is there some equivalent here in the U.S.? I've always used used AP flour to make soda bread; am I missing out on something wonderful? Thanks... adam

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        1. re: adamshoe

          Odlums mills various grades of wholemeal flour from Irish-grown wheat. Given that Ireland's climate isn't suitable for growing hard, high-protein wheat, their home-grown stuff is softer with less gluten. If you don't want to deal with trying to find Irish flour or King Arthur, you can substitute whole-wheat and white pastry flours (most brown bread recipes use a 3 - 1 ratio of wholemeal to white flour) and achieve pretty similar results. I know for sure that Bob's Red Mill has whole wheat pastry flour; check health food stores.
          Soda bread isn't quite right with our own all-purpose flour. Soda and sour milk do a much better job of raising low-protein flours.

        2. See about soft Sonora wheat.
          King Arthur Irish-Style Wholemeal Flour -
          A coarsely ground, soft red whole wheat flour

          1. Hi Adam, well Irish whole meal flour is a mixture of super coarse to very finely ground wheat flour, as far as I know. There could even be a small amount of ground oats in the mix. It's used to make the not-sweet Irish soda bread that everyone in Ireland is familar with.
            Regular whole wheat flour mixed with white flour just dosen't create the same bread.

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            1. re: dzime

              Here's another good source for more info on authentic soda bread and Irish flour: