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NellyNel Feb 21, 2009 05:26 AM

I was just reading Gail Simmons blog on Bravo from a few weeks ago.
she says this: "New Orleans will really show the true colors of the remaining chefs. Nothing is as it seems. Nothing."

Okay here is my theory.

Stefan has been painted as "the Villain" all season long.
But in the preview clip for next week, we see that Hosea does something to seemingly screw with Stefan, and then Hosea saying :"Screw you Stefan!"

So I think Gail was referring to that!
Sort of like - you all think Stefan is the meanie -but it's really Hosea!

Anyone else?

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    AMFM RE: NellyNel Feb 21, 2009 02:32 PM

    could be. he helped carla too this past episode. but i don't think he's really been portrayed as the villian - more the cocky SOB. :) he's definitely talented and has not screwed anyone IMHO but his attitude at times (including last week) has been a bit of a turnoff. personally i still like him. i love carla and hope she wins but i wouldn't be upset at all if stefan did. just hoping hosea doesn't because he hasn't impressed me and the whining about stefan and the letting leah get in the way just irritated me. and I KNOW he isn't the person he appears to be, it's tv.

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    1. re: AMFM
      Dutchvanobvious RE: AMFM Feb 21, 2009 06:01 PM

      I've never seen Stefan as a villain, and I think he got a taste of humble pie after last weeks dressing down. I just get a bad vibe from Hosea, much like I did Elan from his season. I suspect hosea will be the bigger ass, as he seems intent on "besting" stefan, when what he should focus on is being the best regardless of who is left in the competition.

      I shall miss Fabio. Funny guy. Not as adventurous with his food perhpas, but a solid human being and great cook.

      1. re: Dutchvanobvious
        NellyNel RE: Dutchvanobvious Feb 22, 2009 07:56 AM

        Yeah, I'll miss Fabio too...
        If he had made it to the final - for me, it would have been the first time I would have really liked each the final three! And been happy no matter who wins.
        But at least now I have Hosea to root against!

        I'll be more than happy for Carla or Stefan to win..but not so much for Hosea - I think his head would get WAY bigger if he is "Top Chef"
        and all he'll talk about is how he beat "team Euro"! Ugh!

        Though nothing could be as sickening as Ilans win!

    2. Withnail42 RE: NellyNel Feb 22, 2009 05:23 PM

      I think that the reason there is so much apparent hostility between Stefan and Hosea is because they are very much in love with each other. They use the hostility to hide the vulnerability and fear that they have when confronting these feelings.

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      1. re: Withnail42
        Miss Needle RE: Withnail42 Feb 23, 2009 08:59 AM

        Ha ha. Actually, I don't think it's hostility but just some friendly rivalry. I was watching an interview of either Stefan or Hosea, and apparently they will be skiing together in Colorado.

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          NellyNel RE: Miss Needle Feb 23, 2009 09:21 AM

          That's hilarious...So I guess the whole "I can't stand Stefan" bit was really played up for the cameras!

          That's nice to know

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            Miss Needle RE: NellyNel Feb 25, 2009 02:07 PM

            Okay. Here's an article with Stefan. I will highlight some of the more interesting (to me) points:

            "Personally, I like Hosea. He's a fun guy. We're going skiing together in a couple of weeks ... Hosea is a good guy. We had a fun time together. We're going skiing together."

            Who was your biggest competitor?
            "Honestly? Jamie. Let me tell you, Jamie. I said to people, I run circles around everyone. I always do. I always have. I didn't do 23 years of traveling and cooking, and getting my ass kicked every day by other people, to be mediocre. I'm not. I appreciate great chefs and Jamie is one of them. And let me tell you, Leah, too."

            LEAH?!?!?!?! I think it was probably difficult for a viewer to see her talent with all the whining she was doing on the show.

            And there's something that addresses the whole "true colors" thing.

            "Let me tell you, there will be a nice twist. In the beginning, you'll see the true character of people. It will be very interesting. You will love that one."

            Oooh! I can't wait until tonight! Too bad DH is away on business tonight. I'm going to have to watch it alone and have nobody to make snarky comments with. Thank goodness for this board!


            1. re: Miss Needle
              LindaWhit RE: Miss Needle Feb 25, 2009 02:54 PM

              And there's something that addresses the whole "true colors" thing.

              "Let me tell you, there will be a nice twist. In the beginning, you'll see the true character of people. It will be very interesting. You will love that one."
              And the fact that it's Stefan saying this leads me to believe it's got to be Hosea he's talking about. Will be VERY interesting!

              See you hear within the first 15 minutes, Miss Needle! (Phaedrus/AMFM/goodhealthgourmet - are you going to start the new thread? LOL)

              1. re: LindaWhit
                goodhealthgourmet RE: LindaWhit Feb 25, 2009 04:18 PM

                why don't you take the reins on this one, Linda?

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                  LindaWhit RE: goodhealthgourmet Feb 25, 2009 04:22 PM

                  I've got to be really MOVED to do so. If it's an early shocker, you can be sure I'll be at the keyboard to make a note about it. :-)

                  1. re: LindaWhit
                    AMFM RE: LindaWhit Feb 25, 2009 04:40 PM

                    don't worry. i'll be around... :)

        2. re: Withnail42
          Hurner RE: Withnail42 Feb 25, 2009 06:11 AM

          Withnail42: LOL...I've been thinking the same thing for weeks! Although, in this case, I think that the love Hosea feels for Stefan is one-sided.

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            Phaedrus RE: Hurner Feb 25, 2009 06:49 AM

            So the homoerotic spin is moving from Project Runway to Top Chef? Interesting.

        3. Ruth Lafler RE: NellyNel Feb 22, 2009 06:06 PM

          Don't think so. The judges don't see the footage of what goes on in the kitchen. There's no way Gail would know about any incident between them unless it someone brought it up at judges table.

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          1. re: Ruth Lafler
            NellyNel RE: Ruth Lafler Feb 23, 2009 05:21 AM

            Well, I don't know...that post was written in February, after the finale was said and done - I'm sure the judges get the scoop of behind the scenes by then.
            She says the chefs: "show thier true colors" which implys (to me) referencing thier personality traits rather than thier actual cooking chops.

            1. re: NellyNel
              Ruth Lafler RE: NellyNel Feb 23, 2009 08:31 AM

              *shrug* I disagree. I think she means showing their true colors as chefs, cooking their own food instead of the food required by a challenge. Even if she did find out about it later, it wouldn't have affected the judging or the outcome, so what would be the point? Furthermore, I think you're giving waaaaay too much importance to a conflict seen in a promo. The vast majority of the time those turn out to be fairly minor incidents that are being hyped just for the promos. Fabio's finger being a perfect example. Was he injured? Yes. Did it turn out to be important? No.

              1. re: Ruth Lafler
                NellyNel RE: Ruth Lafler Feb 23, 2009 08:46 AM

                You're right about the exaggeration of small incidents...
                I guess my specualtion has more to do with HOPE....

            2. re: Ruth Lafler
              a_and_w RE: Ruth Lafler Feb 23, 2009 10:02 AM

              I wouldn't be surprised if it gets brought up at judges' table.

              1. re: a_and_w
                Ruth Lafler RE: a_and_w Feb 23, 2009 10:29 AM

                It depends on what it is -- as I said, I think it was something that's been exaggerated for the sake of the promos.

                No one looks good tattling on a competitor, and in the judges have shown repeatedly that they don't care about the "drama" in the kitchen. In fact, competitors who have tried to blame their problems on another competitor have in every case I can think of been told essentially that shit happens, and you gotta deal with it and not make excuses.

                1. re: Ruth Lafler
                  Ruth Lafler RE: Ruth Lafler Feb 25, 2009 09:57 PM

                  See? Much ado about nothing!

                  1. re: Ruth Lafler
                    a_and_w RE: Ruth Lafler Feb 26, 2009 06:26 AM

                    You did tell us so!

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              isadorasmama RE: NellyNel Feb 23, 2009 08:49 AM

              I don't know about your theory but this I do know...Gail's writing stinks! Didn't she learn in journalism school that there are better adverbs than "so"?

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                xman887 RE: NellyNel Feb 24, 2009 08:01 PM

                is bravo going to try and do a live reveal during the last ten minutes of the show like they did last season (it was kind of anticlimactic)? or has the winner been already been crowned - and how has this not leaked?

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                1. re: xman887
                  NellyNel RE: xman887 Feb 25, 2009 05:09 AM

                  They didn't do the finale bit live last season - it was the season before that when Hung won the title....and I think it pretty much bombed.. so no I don't think it's going to be live.

                  "and how has this not leaked?"
                  I was thinking the same thing - but I guess they are sworn to secrecy!


                  1. re: NellyNel
                    Phaedrus RE: NellyNel Feb 25, 2009 05:24 AM

                    BIG BIG monetary penalties.

                    1. re: Phaedrus
                      NellyNel RE: Phaedrus Feb 25, 2009 05:29 AM

                      Oh really?
                      Yeah, I guess you're right!

                      Although there was all that talk about how it leaked that Hosea was going to the finals...but I guess that's not too severe...

                      1. re: NellyNel
                        Ruth Lafler RE: NellyNel Feb 25, 2009 06:53 AM

                        Yeah, it's standard reality show contract -- big money penalties for leaking the results. Of course, there's nothing to keep noncontestants from putting clues together and figuring it out (someone was mysteriously out of town or canceled plans during a critical time period, someone was seen at an airport in a certain location at a critical time, etc., someone stopped posting to a blog during a critical period, etc.).

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                  shallots RE: NellyNel Feb 25, 2009 09:01 AM

                  This season, I've been so uncomfortable with the way TC Stephanie has been used in the ads, that I almost hope no winner is declared this season, as I don't want any of these to have to ....do....this sort of thing next season.
                  I don't like edited Hosea, but I can see him running a kitchen with great success. Likewise Stefan. Edited Carla knows how to cater, but I'm not sure how catering translates. In many parts of the country, catering depends on what people want, not what people want to try. I think it would break my heart to see Carla picking at ugly deserts and not really tasting them (and pasting a fake smile on her face.)

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                  1. re: shallots
                    LindaWhit RE: shallots Feb 25, 2009 09:06 AM

                    I agree on the Stephanie ads for whatever they are. Beyond cheesy.

                    1. re: LindaWhit
                      Phaedrus RE: LindaWhit Feb 25, 2009 09:09 AM

                      I only saw Brian and Howie with her. Is it me or did they pick some of the non-frontrunners for those ads, outside of Stephanie.

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                        LindaWhit RE: Phaedrus Feb 25, 2009 09:20 AM

                        Definite non-front runners. I'm seriously SO thankful I didn't see the one with Howie. :-) I saw Malarkey! and I forget who else, but I think she's done about 4 of them.

                        1. re: LindaWhit
                          NellyNel RE: LindaWhit Feb 25, 2009 10:05 AM

                          Did they air these during Top Chef?
                          because I have never seen them!? Probably because I tivo TC and FF through the ads!

                          Are they contractually forced to do these ads?

                          1. re: NellyNel
                            LindaWhit RE: NellyNel Feb 25, 2009 10:08 AM

                            Yes, they're aired during TC.

                            Don't know if they're contractually required to do these ads, but based on how stiff Stephanie and Malarkey! looked during their ad, I'd say yes.

                          2. re: LindaWhit
                            AMFM RE: LindaWhit Feb 25, 2009 10:36 AM

                            definitely betty too. for the diet dr. pepper challenge healthy desserts.

                            maybe josie?

                            i think stephanie was contracted but based on who else came back i'd bet they chose to. who knows? the recipes are up somewhere - either the bravo site or the diet dr. pepper site.

                            1. re: AMFM
                              NellyNel RE: AMFM Feb 25, 2009 10:44 AM

                              So any bets on for tonight?

                              This is one I wouldnt bet money on!
                              I think Stefan is a shoe-in...but with all that stuff from Emeril - about "it's not who you think!" -
                              Who knows then!?

                              It's 2:45 and I'm yawning - I don't know how I'll stay up until 11:00 - but I'm determined!
                              (Hey - i get up super early!!)

                              1. re: AMFM
                                LindaWhit RE: AMFM Feb 25, 2009 10:49 AM

                                Betty is definitely one of them - thanks AMFM.

                          3. re: LindaWhit
                            dave_c RE: LindaWhit Feb 25, 2009 11:23 AM

                            I feel sorry for Stephanie. I'm assuming that she's obligated to do these spots. She appears to be putting on her best smile and talking up the desserts. However, she never really eats the dessert. She'll sample the whipped cream topping. Smile and proclaim it's great.

                            1. re: dave_c
                              Ruth Lafler RE: dave_c Feb 25, 2009 11:26 AM

                              People often don't actually eat a dish in commercials -- that way, they don't have to have a new item for each take (it's easy to redo the whipped cream).

                              1. re: dave_c
                                NellyNel RE: dave_c Feb 25, 2009 11:40 AM

                                I don't
                                No one forced her to sign up to be on a tv show which she knew beforehand would come with certain obligations.
                                You can't be too shy if you are willing to go on a national reality tv program!

                                And I'm sure she doesn't mind the extra $$$ that she's taking home. No sir, I don't "feel sorry" for her at all!

                                1. re: NellyNel
                                  LindaWhit RE: NellyNel Feb 25, 2009 12:32 PM

                                  Wait. It's not a matter of being shy. It's a matter of being a chef, and having to promote Jello or Cool Whip. Two items that I'd believe aren't used in a lot of restaurant kitchens.

                                  And we don't know if these were obligations as part of the original TC "contract" she signed or if she signed something directly with the advertisers. If the latter, I don't feel sorry for her. If the former, I do.

                                  1. re: LindaWhit
                                    Ruth Lafler RE: LindaWhit Feb 25, 2009 12:43 PM

                                    I think the contestants sign a contract that includes various unspecified promotional obligations on behalf of the production company, network and sponsors. Basically, when you sign a contract for a reality show they own you.

                                    1. re: Ruth Lafler
                                      NellyNel RE: Ruth Lafler Feb 25, 2009 12:55 PM

                                      right, so either way I don't feel bad for her. It was her CHOICE to either
                                      A) go on TC and agree to do whatever they ask of her
                                      B) choose to sign with Jello (or whoever) and make some money

                                      sure it could be considered humiliating or to be "selling out" but either way - she's making money for it - which I'm sure she is happily accepting.

                                2. re: dave_c
                                  Phaedrus RE: dave_c Feb 25, 2009 11:43 AM

                                  Sometimes what they hold up isn't edible. They do a lot of stuff to the "product" to make it look appealing to the camera and not the palate.

                                  1. re: Phaedrus
                                    Caitlin McGrath RE: Phaedrus Feb 25, 2009 01:48 PM

                                    Actually, if you're advertising a food product, you have to show the product as it is, you can't alter it for TV, per truth-in-adverstising statutes (though of course, it can be more carefully prepared than you'd fet IRL, or the ideal version, e.g., fast food). Editorial is a different matter, and food stylists often use tricks to make things look good that render them inedible.

                                    1. re: Caitlin McGrath
                                      Phaedrus RE: Caitlin McGrath Feb 25, 2009 02:48 PM

                                      I read an article years ago, about how Campbell's used to put clear marbles in their soups for TV commercials in order to make them look thick. Hamburger places use markers to draw in the black char grill marks. So yeah, they do things to render the food inedible but look better.

                                      1. re: Phaedrus
                                        chicgail RE: Phaedrus Feb 25, 2009 06:14 PM

                                        I was, at one time, a "food stylist" for photographer. I once piled dirty oily rags in the bottom of a casserole, piled mac and cheese on top and then sprayed it with oil to make it look fresh and "yummy!"

                                3. re: LindaWhit
                                  ChefJune RE: LindaWhit Feb 25, 2009 12:06 PM

                                  I guess I'm lucky. I haven't seen any of these ads.

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