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  <id>597913</id>
  <title>Piroshki in San Francisco?</title>
  <published_at>Fri Feb 20 13:15:48 -0800 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>19</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>1</id>
    <name>San Francisco Bay Area</name>
  </board>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>4436703</id>
        <content>Hi folks.  Was wondering if someone could give me their opinions on the current "best" piroshki in San Francisco?  I did a search, but basically there havent been many suggestions or advice in the last two years on where to go.


Some places that I found from running a search for threads in the the past 3 years are Gastronom, Moscow and Tbilisi Bakery, Cinderella Bakery, Europa Express, and New World Market.  


Has anyone eaten a good piroshki here in San Francisco in the past year or two and can maybe give me some recommendations?  Thank you very much for any info at all!</content>
        <published_at>Fri Feb 20 13:15:48 -0800 2009</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>143808</id>
          <name>leddytech</name>
        </user>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4436994</id>
      <content>These places are the type that don't change over the years unless owners change. So any reviews about those places are just as valid today. 

New in the area is Royal Market on Geary. They have a bakery in back. On my visit they had beef and cabbage 
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/579978

Also, Israel market next to New World market has baked piroshki
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/454562</content>
      <published_at>Fri Feb 20 14:26:00 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4436703</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10264</id>
        <name>rworange</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4740802</id>
      <content>Yes yes to Royal Market on Geary. I had two very Polish grandmothers and there isn't a day that goes by I don't miss their cooking. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality at Royal Market. Give it a try!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 03 19:17:12 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4436994</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>256660</id>
        <name>kopeclau</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4483990</id>
      <content>I lived in San Fransisco in 1980, and although I couldn't tell you where the best Piroshki is, I have wonderful memories of this tasty walking food.  I usually got my Piroshkis from corner stores.  Once I went in to a corner store, picked up a newspaper and a Piroshki.  When I went to ring up my purchase, the fellow says "Ah, Piroshki and newspaper;  Food for  mind and food for soul".  I couldn't agree more!

Now, the question I have is this;  I want to know how to get some Piroshkis from San Fransisco sent to me in my black hole of a town in NJ!  I see a company called Paramount Piroskis dominating the first page of a google I did, but they have no shipping or purchasing info that I could see.  I also saw a Mrs. Smith's product called a Piroshki somewhere online, but it sure as hell didn't look like a Piroshki.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Mar 08 05:49:26 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4436703</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>272622</id>
        <name>MetalTomato</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4484172</id>
      <content>Trust me that you don't want a Paramount piroshki. They are leaden and I think their main reason for existing is they keep forever in deli counters ... and usually taste like they have been there forever. 

What type of piroshki are you looking for? Fried or baked? The former are the Paramount type. The latter are usually like savory turnovers. 

Have you asked on your home board about what is local. While I know some parts of NJ can be remote, that is still  close to East Coast Eastern European Central. Surely there has to be good piroshki in nearby NY. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Mar 08 08:12:20 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4483990</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10264</id>
        <name>rworange</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4484869</id>
      <content>If you were living in San Francisco during the 80's, I'm sad to say that style of Piroshki is near extinct, and has been for a long time. The closest thing would be a Paramount Piroshki, but they've now started using low grade fillings, and even fresh deliveries don't taste fresh. A few years back they were good for a close enough approximation, and you could luck out and get a fresh enough one that the texture, and grease soaking would bring back nice memories of the Mr. Piroshki days.  They almost kinda looked the same if you squinted in the right light too. The rest of what's being sold in the city is along the lines of what you'd get in Brighton Beach. Wrong breaded texture, and wrong light grey mystery meat fillings instead of the fresh ground beef you probably remember.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Mar 08 13:39:33 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4483990</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>145096</id>
        <name>sugartoof</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4485880</id>
      <content>I lived in SF near the Irving &amp; 9th Ave area in the late 70's. The House of Piroshki was on Irving, later moving to 9th Ave. They had the best piroshkis I've ever had anywhere. They closed several years ago and I keep trying to find ones as good as those, but so far haven't succeeded. I haven't tried all the places mentioned in this thread, though. Does anyone remember the House of Piroshki and can compare the places in this thread with it?</content>
      <published_at>Sun Mar 08 20:03:57 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4484869</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10724</id>
        <name>Mick Ruthven</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4485918</id>
      <content>Sorry, I typed Mr Piroshki but I meant House of Piroshki... no idea why, but I always called the owner Mr. Piroshki as a kid...so my above comments would apply. Their Piroshki right out of the fryer, and their big egg white cookies have no equal.

I don't know about the farmers market suggestions but the Russian ones are different. Even if they look similar the filling is entirely different.  If someone could find anything comparable I would be thrilled to hear about it. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Mar 08 20:18:18 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4485880</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>145096</id>
        <name>sugartoof</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4486276</id>
      <content>In the early 70's there was a place at about 16th and Geary that had some innocuous name and really good piroshki, but I didn't spend a lot of time on the other side of the park.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Mar 08 23:40:32 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4485918</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10133</id>
        <name>wally</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4484268</id>
      <content>I get piroshki at New World Market; but the very best  was from a vendor at the Saturday Alemany Farmers Market.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Mar 08 09:08:01 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4436703</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13519</id>
        <name>Cynsa</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4739806</id>
      <content>I am another one who has unsuccessfully searched for a piroshki equal to those made at the House Of Piroshki in the Sunset years ago.   They were fried, pillowy, and the fillings were perfectly seasoned.  Unfortunately most I've tried since then are baked, the kind that look like turnovers.  Some have been quite good but don't measure up to the House of P.  Anyone found any that are similar, especially the pastry part? </content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 03 13:41:10 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4484268</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>112963</id>
        <name>cheesecakeking</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4740327</id>
      <content>Same answer - Paramount when fresh were the closest thing and it wasn't all that close.  Their fillings have gone from so-so to outright terrible though.  

Your best bet would be Cinderella Bakery. Still not the same.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 03 16:14:36 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4739806</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>145096</id>
        <name>sugartoof</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4741876</id>
      <content>Very sad. I was also a House of Piroshi fan, and sorely miss its passing.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jun 04 08:21:22 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4740327</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15879</id>
        <name>Joan Kureczka</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4745339</id>
      <content>Nothing beats the House of Piroshki - I will spend the rest of my life trying to match the meat and cheese.  The closest I've gotten is Cinderella Bakery on Balboa and 4th.  They have a couple of varieties and do the sheet piroshki as well.  And like all real White Russians, they provide soy sauce.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jun 05 09:41:46 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4436703</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>720303</id>
        <name>lae12345</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4748219</id>
      <content>oh dear, here we go traipsing down memory lane again - I learned to have my piroshki with soy sauce from George and Sima at University Food - the cafe on Hayes Street near St. Mary's Hospital that fed all students so well in the 70's.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jun 06 10:18:07 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4745339</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13519</id>
        <name>Cynsa</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4748350</id>
      <content>And in the 60's.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jun 06 11:52:35 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4748219</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10133</id>
        <name>wally</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4748472</id>
      <content>Were they similar to House of Piroshki?</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jun 06 12:55:52 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4748219</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>145096</id>
        <name>sugartoof</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4749540</id>
      <content>I don't remember soy sauce at House of Piroshki. Did I just ignore it as I consumed those great piroshkis? I definitely need to get to Cinderella.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jun 06 23:07:58 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4745339</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10724</id>
        <name>Mick Ruthven</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4751368</id>
      <content>I was thinking the same thing. I don't recall any soy sauce.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jun 07 18:30:01 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4749540</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>145096</id>
        <name>sugartoof</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4783278</id>
      <content>I now live in Wa. state and have missed those peroshkis from the House Of Peroshki for years now. I have tried many others and none has come close to the taste of those I ate there in the 70s.In the 60s I ate there a couple times a week. Today, they would do a good business if they opened back up with the same recipe. Some times a place has a winning food to offer and this place had the very best!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 17 20:50:29 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4751368</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1084812</id>
        <name>Robspace1</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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