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leddytech Feb 20, 2009 12:15 PM

Hi folks. Was wondering if someone could give me their opinions on the current "best" piroshki in San Francisco? I did a search, but basically there havent been many suggestions or advice in the last two years on where to go.

Some places that I found from running a search for threads in the the past 3 years are Gastronom, Moscow and Tbilisi Bakery, Cinderella Bakery, Europa Express, and New World Market.

Has anyone eaten a good piroshki here in San Francisco in the past year or two and can maybe give me some recommendations? Thank you very much for any info at all!

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  1. rworange RE: leddytech Feb 20, 2009 01:26 PM

    These places are the type that don't change over the years unless owners change. So any reviews about those places are just as valid today.

    New in the area is Royal Market on Geary. They have a bakery in back. On my visit they had beef and cabbage
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/579978

    Also, Israel market next to New World market has baked piroshki
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/454562

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      kopeclau RE: rworange Jun 3, 2009 07:17 PM

      Yes yes to Royal Market on Geary. I had two very Polish grandmothers and there isn't a day that goes by I don't miss their cooking. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality at Royal Market. Give it a try!

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      MetalTomato RE: leddytech Mar 8, 2009 05:49 AM

      I lived in San Fransisco in 1980, and although I couldn't tell you where the best Piroshki is, I have wonderful memories of this tasty walking food. I usually got my Piroshkis from corner stores. Once I went in to a corner store, picked up a newspaper and a Piroshki. When I went to ring up my purchase, the fellow says "Ah, Piroshki and newspaper; Food for mind and food for soul". I couldn't agree more!

      Now, the question I have is this; I want to know how to get some Piroshkis from San Fransisco sent to me in my black hole of a town in NJ! I see a company called Paramount Piroskis dominating the first page of a google I did, but they have no shipping or purchasing info that I could see. I also saw a Mrs. Smith's product called a Piroshki somewhere online, but it sure as hell didn't look like a Piroshki.

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        rworange RE: MetalTomato Mar 8, 2009 08:12 AM

        Trust me that you don't want a Paramount piroshki. They are leaden and I think their main reason for existing is they keep forever in deli counters ... and usually taste like they have been there forever.

        What type of piroshki are you looking for? Fried or baked? The former are the Paramount type. The latter are usually like savory turnovers.

        Have you asked on your home board about what is local. While I know some parts of NJ can be remote, that is still close to East Coast Eastern European Central. Surely there has to be good piroshki in nearby NY.

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          sugartoof RE: MetalTomato Mar 8, 2009 01:39 PM

          If you were living in San Francisco during the 80's, I'm sad to say that style of Piroshki is near extinct, and has been for a long time. The closest thing would be a Paramount Piroshki, but they've now started using low grade fillings, and even fresh deliveries don't taste fresh. A few years back they were good for a close enough approximation, and you could luck out and get a fresh enough one that the texture, and grease soaking would bring back nice memories of the Mr. Piroshki days. They almost kinda looked the same if you squinted in the right light too. The rest of what's being sold in the city is along the lines of what you'd get in Brighton Beach. Wrong breaded texture, and wrong light grey mystery meat fillings instead of the fresh ground beef you probably remember.

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            Mick Ruthven RE: sugartoof Mar 8, 2009 08:03 PM

            I lived in SF near the Irving & 9th Ave area in the late 70's. The House of Piroshki was on Irving, later moving to 9th Ave. They had the best piroshkis I've ever had anywhere. They closed several years ago and I keep trying to find ones as good as those, but so far haven't succeeded. I haven't tried all the places mentioned in this thread, though. Does anyone remember the House of Piroshki and can compare the places in this thread with it?

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              sugartoof RE: Mick Ruthven Mar 8, 2009 08:18 PM

              Sorry, I typed Mr Piroshki but I meant House of Piroshki... no idea why, but I always called the owner Mr. Piroshki as a kid...so my above comments would apply. Their Piroshki right out of the fryer, and their big egg white cookies have no equal.

              I don't know about the farmers market suggestions but the Russian ones are different. Even if they look similar the filling is entirely different. If someone could find anything comparable I would be thrilled to hear about it.

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                wally RE: sugartoof Mar 8, 2009 11:40 PM

                In the early 70's there was a place at about 16th and Geary that had some innocuous name and really good piroshki, but I didn't spend a lot of time on the other side of the park.

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                Parigi RE: Mick Ruthven Dec 2, 2009 11:37 AM

                I grew up in that neighborhood and knew the house of Piroshki well, even back when it was on Irving. The owner had travelled through China on his eventual escape to the US. He could still speak Mandarin ! Breaks my heart to hear that the place is no more. I loved, loved the piroshki there.

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                  vconmy RE: Mick Ruthven May 30, 2011 02:41 PM

                  Oh I have dreams about those piroshkis.!There was the place on 9th ave. and I seem to recall somewhere on Polk st.? I have tried, in vain, to find a recipe for those fried delights. Alas.

            2. Cynsa RE: leddytech Mar 8, 2009 09:08 AM

              I get piroshki at New World Market; but the very best was from a vendor at the Saturday Alemany Farmers Market.

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              Alemany Farmers' Market
              100 Alemany Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94110

              New World Market
              5641 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94121

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                cheesecakeking RE: Cynsa Jun 3, 2009 01:41 PM

                I am another one who has unsuccessfully searched for a piroshki equal to those made at the House Of Piroshki in the Sunset years ago. They were fried, pillowy, and the fillings were perfectly seasoned. Unfortunately most I've tried since then are baked, the kind that look like turnovers. Some have been quite good but don't measure up to the House of P. Anyone found any that are similar, especially the pastry part?

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                  sugartoof RE: cheesecakeking Jun 3, 2009 04:14 PM

                  Same answer - Paramount when fresh were the closest thing and it wasn't all that close. Their fillings have gone from so-so to outright terrible though.

                  Your best bet would be Cinderella Bakery. Still not the same.

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                    Joan Kureczka RE: sugartoof Jun 4, 2009 08:21 AM

                    Very sad. I was also a House of Piroshi fan, and sorely miss its passing.

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                      Cynsa RE: sugartoof Jul 7, 2011 07:56 PM

                      Cinderella has a very good fried beef and cheese piroshki - and I still like the mushroom piroshki at New World Market.

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                      Cinderella Bakery
                      436 Balboa St, San Francisco, CA 94118

                      New World Market
                      5641 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94121

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                  lae12345 RE: leddytech Jun 5, 2009 09:41 AM

                  Nothing beats the House of Piroshki - I will spend the rest of my life trying to match the meat and cheese. The closest I've gotten is Cinderella Bakery on Balboa and 4th. They have a couple of varieties and do the sheet piroshki as well. And like all real White Russians, they provide soy sauce.

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                    Cynsa RE: lae12345 Jun 6, 2009 10:18 AM

                    oh dear, here we go traipsing down memory lane again - I learned to have my piroshki with soy sauce from George and Sima at University Food - the cafe on Hayes Street near St. Mary's Hospital that fed all students so well in the 70's.

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                      wally RE: Cynsa Jun 6, 2009 11:52 AM

                      And in the 60's.

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                        sugartoof RE: Cynsa Jun 6, 2009 12:55 PM

                        Were they similar to House of Piroshki?

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                        Mick Ruthven RE: lae12345 Jun 6, 2009 11:07 PM

                        I don't remember soy sauce at House of Piroshki. Did I just ignore it as I consumed those great piroshkis? I definitely need to get to Cinderella.

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                          sugartoof RE: Mick Ruthven Jun 7, 2009 06:30 PM

                          I was thinking the same thing. I don't recall any soy sauce.

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                            Robspace1 RE: sugartoof Jun 17, 2009 08:50 PM

                            I now live in Wa. state and have missed those peroshkis from the House Of Peroshki for years now. I have tried many others and none has come close to the taste of those I ate there in the 70s.In the 60s I ate there a couple times a week. Today, they would do a good business if they opened back up with the same recipe. Some times a place has a winning food to offer and this place had the very best!

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                        Mick Ruthven RE: leddytech Dec 1, 2009 09:10 PM

                        Just an update to this thread that San Rafael now has a quite good piroshki place.

                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/664542

                        1. wolfe RE: leddytech May 30, 2011 02:56 PM

                          Anyone been to Anda.
                          http://andapiroshki.com/

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                            sugartoof RE: wolfe May 30, 2011 03:54 PM

                            Looks like yet another breed of Piroshki entirely (in both the dough/bread and filling) for San Francisco.

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                              Malcolm Ruthven RE: wolfe May 30, 2011 09:57 PM

                              It just opened a few days ago. Someone who is closer than I am has to go!

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                              AnDa Piroshki
                              331 Cortland Ave, San Francisco, CA 94110

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                                rworange RE: Malcolm Ruthven May 30, 2011 10:19 PM

                                I think this was the place selling of certain days at another restaaurant. I'm pretty sure I read it on yelp, but it was difficult to decided if the positive comments were hype. Not sure if I asked about it here or not, but don't remember a response.

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                                MetalTomato RE: wolfe May 30, 2011 10:47 PM

                                I just saw a link for Anda, and although they don't look like the fried Piroshkis of my memory, they still look pretty damn tasty, AND I believe they deliver. I sent them an email asking about their shipping policy

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                                  rworange RE: MetalTomato May 30, 2011 11:37 PM

                                  Ohhh ... mailed piroshki ... I can't imagine that would be a good thing.

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                                  Euonymous RE: wolfe Jun 2, 2011 06:37 PM

                                  I went to AйDa Piroshki today. The proprietess (Anna) is very nice and the piroshki are delicious. They are the real Russian type, baked rather than fried. I got some stuffed with beef and cheese and some stuffed with potatoes, onions, and cheese. I had intended to have them for dinner tonight but my two kids have eaten most of them already. My older daughter has vowed to walk there every day this summer to get more.

                                  They are really good!

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                                  AйDa Piroshki
                                  331 Cortland Ave, SF, CA 94110

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                                    Windy RE: Euonymous Jun 2, 2011 06:56 PM

                                    looking forward to trying them soon, maybe with a little cold vodka Thanks for the report.

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                                      MetalTomato RE: Euonymous Jun 2, 2011 07:51 PM

                                      they replied to my e-mail that they would let me know what the price to ship them in dry ice!

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                                        Windy RE: MetalTomato Jun 2, 2011 08:27 PM

                                        Hope you haven't been waiting 2 years since your original post!

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                                          MetalTomato RE: Windy Jun 2, 2011 08:30 PM

                                          lol, in fact, I have!

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                                    bigwheel042 RE: leddytech May 30, 2011 06:51 PM

                                    I have a soft spot for the ones at Moscow and Tbilisi bakery, even though they are huge greasebombs. Always assumed they were homemade but am not 100% certain.

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                                      cheesecakeking RE: leddytech Jun 26, 2011 10:32 PM

                                      Anda Piroshki is as good or better than the long gone but not forgotten House of Piroshki on 9th Ave.

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                                      AnDa Piroshki
                                      331 Cortland Ave, San Francisco, CA 94110

                                      1. ROCKLES RE: leddytech Jul 11, 2011 09:29 AM

                                        Ok, I tried Anda Piroshki...These handmade Piroshki are very good. The Smoked Salmon one is very rich and incredible-I needed a fresh tomato slice on top to compliment the awesome flavor.
                                        The beef and cheese and beef and onion were very good as well, though I miss the deep fried style. My wife, being Russian, wishes they had a bit more flavoring but still thought that for a purchased product (rather than making here own) they were very very good. If you like piroshki, then I recommend you try them out. The owner Anna is very likeable person, she and my wife hit it off immediately.

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                                        AnDa Piroshki
                                        331 Cortland Ave, San Francisco, CA 94110

                                        1. Windy RE: leddytech Jul 15, 2011 03:09 PM

                                          I also really enjoyed my piroshki (salmon, although I picked up another for tomorrow). But it's the borscht I'd return for. Wonderfully flavorful. I got my soup with beef, but the broth is vegetarian otherwise and hearty enough to make my college Russian teacher proud.

                                          While I was waiting, I admired the cole slaw at nearby Paulie's Pickling, and took some of that home too. A real red cabbage day. This is great cole slaw: vinegar based, and definitely counts as a salad, not a condiment, full of shredded carrots. It could probably be a bit more tart, but that's easily remedied.

                                          I also picked up containers of Paulie's chopped liver and white fish salad and loved both of them. The jars of pickles are available elsewhere in SF, but the marketplace on Cortland has sandwiches, spreads, and egg creams made with U-bet. Looking forward to returning.

                                          Has anyone tried their home-cured salmon?

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                                          Paulie’s Pickling
                                          331 Cortland Ave, San Francisco, CA 94110

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