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dimsumgirl Feb 19, 2009 06:19 PM

How to make from scratch? Do I boil the ptoatoes firs or jst deep fry? I'm assuming russets but am I wrong?

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    mexivilla Feb 21, 2009 05:00 AM

    It may seem that the twice fried french fry is gospel but from an earlier Chowhound thread:
    A French Way with Fries
    Starting at room temperature?

    It goes against conventional wisdom and everything home fryers are taught: Start fries in room-temperature oil, put the pan on the heat, and cook the fries until they’re crisp. The method is attributed to French master chef Joël Robuchon, and it has produced excellent results for a couple of hounds: nongreasy fries and no mess. It’s important to keep your potatoes cut in 3/8-inch-square sticks for the method to work.

    scubadoo97 cut, washed, and dried potatoes and put them in a cast iron skillet in peanut oil, then turned the burner on high and watched carefully. The potatoes turned translucent, then browned very evenly; scubadoo97 removed them when they were golden brown, drained them on paper towels, and tossed them with salt. Verdict? Great fries, and a clean process with no splattering or other hazards of deep-frying.

    Sunday Cook emphasizes that drying your potatoes well is key to the success of this method: Damp potatoes fell apart in the oil and became inedible and caused lots of splattering. Jeffrey Steingarten discusses this french fry method in greater depth in an essay in his book The Man Who Ate Everything (Vintage, 1998).

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    1. re: mexivilla
      alwayscooking Feb 21, 2009 07:30 AM

      Thanks for the info and I'll try it this way next time! Although the 2 fry method is tried and true, I love new techniques.

      1. re: alwayscooking
        kchurchill5 Feb 21, 2009 07:38 AM

        I tried mexivilla, my friend at a restaurant in CO told me that. It is how he makes them at home. No idea where he got it. He made them for me one night when I was out visiting. I was shocked. In room temp oil.

        They were as good as the 2 fry method. I have made it home a couple of times and a pain. I have even boiled them after cutting soaking in cold water them boiling for 2-3 minutes, drying again and then frying. It works, but the 2 fry is the best. I have no deep fryer and don't fry a lot so it isn't worth it for me. But the fry in room temp really works honestly. I never thought so but it does.

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      chefathome Feb 20, 2009 07:47 PM

      They are fabulous made with duck fat - a bit extravagent but oh, so yummy!!

      1. b
        bigfellow Feb 20, 2009 10:35 AM

        In restaurant, we cut russets. Then we cover them with water until needed. At that point we tend to blance them at 350 degrees until cooked, but not showing any real colour. When we are ready to serve them, we take the blanched fries and cook them at 375 degrees. This is how I do it at home also, and yes I do have a deep fryer. One of the best investments at home. (think fries, tempura and deep fried mars bars & ice cream)

        Good luck

        1. Luvfriedokra Feb 20, 2009 10:30 AM

          I use the same method as alwayscooking and they always come out great. Have never used a thermometer, but you might feel more comfortable using one. You'll definitely find what works for you after you've made them a few times. Let us know how they turn out!

          1. janetms383 Feb 20, 2009 08:10 AM

            I would agree that if you don't have an electric deep fryer, it is really important to use a good thermometer.

            I learned this method from watching America's Test Kitchen.

            Peel and cut your Russets into your desired shape and size. Rinse cut potatoes in a large bowl with lots of cold running water until water becomes clear. Cover with water by 1-inch and cover with ice. Refrigerate at least 30 minutes and up to 2 days. You want the potatoes cold. When you're ready to fy them, make sure you dry the potatoes really well.

            In a 5-quart pot or Dutch oven (or in an electric deep fryer), heat peanut oil over medium-low heat until the thermometer registers 325 degrees F. Make sure that you have at least 3 inches of space between the top of the oil and the top of the pan, because the fries will bubble up when they are added.

            Drain the fries and wrap potato pieces in a clean dishcloth or tea towel and thoroughly pat dry. A cloth towel is better than paper towels because you don't want little paper pieces sticking to the fries.

            Just before you add the fries turn the heat up a little because it will drop when you add the cold potatoes. Add fries, a handful at a time, into the hot oil.

            This is where it's important to watch the temperature of the oil because you do not want it to go over 325

            Fry, stirring occasionally, until potatoes are soft and limp and begin to turn a blond color, about 6 to 8 minutes. Using a skimmer or a slotted spoon, carefully remove fries from the oil and set aside to drain on paper towels. Let rest for at least 10 minutes or up to 2 hours. They also said you can put them on a cookie sheet and freeze at this point. But, I don't know why you would really want to.........

            When ready to serve the French fries, reheat the oil to 350 degrees F. Put the potatoes into hot oil and fry again, stirring frequently, until golden brown and puffed, about 1 minute. Drain on a paper lined platter and sprinkle with salt and pepper, to taste. Serve immediately.

            1. todao Feb 19, 2009 08:50 PM

              First of all, if you're not experienced cooking with pots of hot oil, do some reading and learn and follow the safety rules. I can't think of anything more dangerous in cooking than hot oil. The risk of conflagration and/or personal injury to yourself or someone else is enormous. If you've experienced (or read about) those emergency calls generated by attempts to deep fry the Thanksgiving turkey, you know what I mean.
              I agree with some of the ideas presented so far, but I take issue with others. Most oils commonly used in cooking have a smoking point somewhere between 400 and 450 degrees. Try to use an oil with a smoking temperature above 410 degrees so you have some margin on controlling your cooking process. Cooking french fries successfully doesn't' normally require temperatures greater than 375 degrees. If you can maintain good control over your oil temperature and keep it between 350 and 375 degrees after the first batch of sliced spuds enter the oil you should produce the perfect french fry. For this initial introduction of the potato slices to the oil, you may want to push the temp. to about 390 - 400 (but no higher) because it's common for the oil temp. to drop as much as 50 degrees when the potato slices make their entry. Try to watch the temp. and introduce a few pieces of potato at a time to control that aspect of the process. For the first phase you want to cook the potato rather than brown it. The oil doesn't cook the potato, the steam generated inside the potato by the hot oil does the actual cooking. You want to maintain an oil temperature high enough to maintain a constant supply of steam generated inside the potato to cook it (and that's also what keeps the oil from penetrating the food) without getting the outside browned to any degree.
              As a side note, you'll find that oil that has had some previous use browns the fries better than fresh oil. But tt's a subject better suited for chemistry class and we don't have enough space here to cover that much data.
              I wouldn't put the potatoes in cold water. Water leaches out the starch and you need the starch to crisp up the outside. When you first introduce the potato to the hot oil you'll find a l lot of bubbles forming; kinda like a foaming cauldron. That's caused by the steam created with the wet potato hits the hot oil; and that's why you don't fill your deep fryer above the limit line set by its manufacturer. The limit line is intended to provide space for the bubbling oil to expand as the steam tries to escape the hot oil environment.
              When the bubbling has pretty much stopped and the potatoes are slightly limp, remove them to a rack (use a spider) beneath which you've placed absorbent paper and allow them to cool. Once these pre-cooked beauties have cooled, re-introduce them to the oil to finish cooking them and crisp them up. When you achieve the degree of donness you want, remove them back to the rack and immediately sprinkle with salt (or other seasonings).
              Russets? Good choice ...

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              1. re: todao
                alwayscooking Feb 20, 2009 07:39 AM

                Exactly the method I use EXCEPT that I rid the potatoes of the starch by running cut potatoes under water until clear (or multiple baths). Then cover with ice and leave in the ref for 30 min or more. When ready to cook, dry the potatoes and put in the medium oil (250-325) and cook until blond. When ready to serve (after 10 minutes to 2 hours - longer requires some storage), fry the potatoes in hot oil (350-375) until brown. As stated by todao, older starchy potatoes are best.

                Always produces great fries .

              2. h
                hilltowner Feb 19, 2009 07:05 PM

                Russets are good, and it's better if they're old. Slice them up, and soak them in ice cold water for a while. Dry well, and fry at a lowish temp until they are limp. Take them out and let the oil come to a higher temp. When potatoes are coolish and oil is at high temp, (400+?) refry until brown. Sorry to be so vague, but I usually do it by feel.

                1. MMRuth Feb 19, 2009 06:22 PM

                  I have never made them at home, but from what I've read - you want to fry twice - once at a lower temp, then once at a higher temp. Hopefully others who have done this will chime in.

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