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Feb 13, 2009 05:51 PM

Authentic French Onion - urban tale or does it exist?

Wanted an authentic French onion (soupe a l'ognion gratinee) but have been displeased. I have the Balthazar cookbook and although I adore every recipe I have tried, the onion soup looks different. It uses chicken stock.
Also, it only uses one kind of onion.

I was going to make a good beef broth this weekend, but maybe will wait.
I was not overly thrilled with Epicurious's recipe either.

Is there such a thing as an authentic French Onion Soup recipe or is Balthazar's it?

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  1. Here's a simple and no doubt authentic one from Je sais cuisiner, by Ginette Mathiot--a classic French cook book

    1.5 l bouillon of your choice
    250 grams sliced onions
    60g butter
    80 grams flour
    salt and pepper
    Cook the onions in hot butter constantly stirring until they take on a nice golden color, sprinkle in flour, let them brown, sprinkle in the bouillion, add salt and pepper, and cook for about 10 minutes.

    That's all.

    1. This may be one of those dishes where opinions outside of France are stronger than those inside.

      My impression is that most recipes call for cooking the onions till they are well caramelized, and then adding beef stock, and serving it with toast and melt cheese topping.

      In Larousse Gastronimic (1960s edition) 'soupe a l'oignon' does not allow the onion to colour, and uses a white consumme or water. It is then served over bread dried in the oven.

      'soupe a l'oignon gratinee' pours the above soup over alternating layers of bread and grated cheese, and then browns it in the oven.

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      1. re: paulj

        Very good info so far.
        Paul - That might be why then Balthazar's recipe uses chicken stock?
        I have heard about adding wine or sherry or port.

        In the Larousse book, what does it do with the onion then? This sounds more authentic.

        As all things, I think modern day has added all the cheese bits.

        1. re: paulj

          In the tri-lingual owners manual that came with my Fagor (Spanish) pressure cooker, the English recipe for French Onion soup calls for beef stock. The French 'Soupe a l'oignon gatinee' calls for '1 litre d'eau' and 1/2 verne de vin blanc sec' - water and dry white wine.

        2. I caramelize the onions in butter then i add white wine and cognac, cook it down a little and then i add beef stock and season to taste. I use a combination of good gruyere and a good mozz for that stretchy cheese that I like. It is a bit of a bastardized recipe from Julia Child.

          1. Homemade beef and veal stocks are essential as is the slow carmelization of the onions IMHO.

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            1. re: alwayscooking

              Irregardless of the recipe, I am going to start roasting the bones and meat for beef stock.

              1. re: alwayscooking

                Agree that the keys are good brown stock [homemade generally] and fully caramelized onions. I try to get some nice knuckle bones for body and some meat for depth of flavour (oxtails, short ribs, etc). I smear the bones and meat with tomato paste before roasting for a bit more flavour and much better colour.

                Onions should be a nice, even mahogany brown after being caramelized. Takes about 45 minutes or more in my hands.

                For the soup, the main flavours should be the onions and the stock. I do use a bit of flour for body and some white wine and a little fresh thyme in the soup base. I add a wee bit of cognac just before serving. If the result is a little too sweet, I add a little sherry vinegar to round it out. Don't be shy with the salt.

                For finish, top with a toasted round of baguette and some reserve Gruyere cheese before baking.

                Result is consistently excellent--results in rave reviews from people who know good food.


              2. Mine has beef broth, 2 onions, butter flour, a light seasoning of fresh parsley, just for garnish, a good gruyere for melting and I like a good baguette which is how I learned. Also good stock is a secrete. If you want me to post the recipe I will. It is really simple and classic.