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patisserie sebastien - yonge/lawrence

i was driving to work today, and saw a sign for "patisserie sebastien - opening soon" a few blocks north of yonge/lawrence at fairlawn.

anyone know anything about this place? it'd be nice to have a bakery so close to work!

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    1. Agree-picked up a baguette there today and was very disapointed. Definately not light and crispy-very heavy and dense. French Quartier on Avenue has much better baguettes.

      1. re: robb

        i tried the baguette yesterday and found it much too dense as well. i wouldn't buy another baguette from them. i have yet to try french quartier but it's on my list to try out!

        1. re: tygrr_lily

          What's the address for the French Quarter or at least the main intersection?

          thanks!

          1. re: scarberian

            1967 Avenue Road (about 1 block south Bruno's).

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            French Quarter
            1967 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5M, CA

            1. re: toveggiegirl

              I went to French Quarter today and posted about it here:

              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/601447

              Bottom line: it's worth a trip. Sebastien is next on my hit list.

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        1. Ok so I've been here three times since Sunday.

          On Sunday, it was very busy and the line up was almost out the door. As a result when I got to the front of the line the selection was VERY minimal. There were no croissants of any kind left. I managed to get a blueberry tart, an eclair and a "raisin bun/pastry" type thing (not sure what it's called).

          Everything was really good especially the eclair.

          Yesterday I stopped in on my way to work and they had "eveything" available. $2.00 for a croissant. I'm no croissant guru, Ive basically only ever had store bought/ starbucks type croisants before.

          This one was definately WAY better than any of those versions.

          Today I grabbed a chocolate croissant and I gotta say it was pretty damn good.

          1. re: Sarah_Gemini11

            I also have been anticipating the arrival of a decent bakery in the neighbourhood--two have recently opened Sebastien and Organic Oven further south of Fairlawn. From neighbours' reports the organic bakery has proven disappointing with chai lattes priced over $5 and the selection has not been great. As far as Sebastien's is concerned, every day I drive by and see empty baskets by mid afternoon. I tried a baguette, a chocolate du pain and an almond croissant--all disappointing. The texture of the baguette is of a really good white bread but not a true baguette and the almond croissant was bready not light and flaky. I will still be going over to Mt Pleasant and to Jules Patisserie for my bread and croissants. I have eaten croissants all over the city and in Quebec and done the "contrast and compare" exercises in the enjoyment of finding the perfect croissant (a tough job but I persist) and unfortunately Sebastien has missed the mark. In the hope that these are opening missteps I will try it again--their tarts do look great.

            1. re: sharmj

              Have you been over to French Quarter on Avenue Road yet? Good stuff... here's a recent thread:

              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/601447

              1. re: TorontoJo

                I just read the thread and it is definitely a place to try out in my "contrast and compare" journey. It appears that the owner of Provence Restaurant in Cabbagetown who also runs the catering company mentioned in the thread has opened this new spot. The restaurant is classic french in its food so I am not surprised that it is doing so well.....thanks for the tip.....

                1. re: sharmj

                  Well I believe that the owner is trying to solve his stock issue because I saw an ad today that he looking for two additional pastry chefs. Hopefully this will rectify the empty shelves.

                  1. re: theresah

                    Tried it today for the first time. Like it much better than French Quarter, which apart from their cinnamon pastries I'm not too crazy about.

                    At Patisserie Sebastien I sampled a lot of things.

                    - Rosemary and thyme focaccia was outstanding.

                    - Chocolate almond croissant was probably the best I've ever had. Light years better than FQ's.

                    - Croissant one of the best I've had in Toronto. Which, while not saying much, was pretty darn good.

                    - Raisin Danish was delish.

                    - Too full to even try the pain au chocolat, but was informed by my friend it was very good.

                    For those 5 items the total was $13. Pretty good, especially considering the area, the quality of the food, and the size of the focaccia was pretty decent as well for 3 bucks and change.

                    The owner was so nice as well. Will definitely be going back.

                    1. re: magic

                      The weekday I went around noon, they had lots of selections so I guess they fixed their supply problem. Tried 3 croissants, the chocolate, the almond, and the chocolate-almond. Very dissapointed with all 3. Very dense, almost bread like. Not light and fluffy on the inside and crunchy on the outside. The Almond did have huge chunks of almond, not the thin slivers that some other stores have. But otherwise worse than French Quarter (and I wasn't pleased about theirs either). Will stick w/ Jules for my fix.

                      1. re: Royaljelly

                        I tried their pastries as well. Love the sweet crunchy shortbread crust and the custard filling. Pity almost every choice is a variation of a fruit tart, be it all grapes, pears, mango/raspberries, blueberries, strawberries/raspberries....etc. Wish they have more chocolate based choices.

                        1. re: Charles Yu

                          Sat. at 10:00 they had a reasonably full counter, the store itself was semi-full, with one person ahead of me in the lineup. The clerk served him, then left me to attend to something in the back. I waited for about 10 minutes. When he came back out he served a person who just arrived, ahead of me. So I just left. Was not impressed with service, to say the least. Will not go back. Overall, the bread looked very nice, but the danishes and croissants looked like something I could get at Dominion. Visually, nothing special, but didn't get to taste. By the way, French Quarter on Avenue Road has closed.

                          1. re: barneyvernon

                            Went there this past Sunday for lunch and they were full despite the cold weather. I was not getting the same bad service you experienced, so maybe they've improved since Aug. The staff were all Japanese women, very friendly and service was excellent. The 2 at the front was very busy trying to serve everyone as fast as they could and with a smile.

                            Foodwise, I had 2 croissants, almond and apple. The almond was a bit dry and hard. Generally not as good as Le Comptoir de Celestin or Jules which are my go to places for pastries. My wife had a croissant sandwich which was microwaved which is something that I don't like to do since it kills the crispiness of the croissant.

                            So, overall, service was excellent, food was OK.

                            1. re: syoung

                              Didn't Le Comptoir de Celestin close 2 years ago? I recall a 'family break-up'.

                              1. re: estufarian

                                Sort of.
                                The baker, Thobor, moved into much bigger premises next door I suspect in anticipation of Pascal's selling Celestin and moving back to France.

                                Thobor can be hit and miss. He is a highly qualified baker who has had to take on apprentices, as a consequence there is inconsistency. I do not hesitate to return anything stale, burnt or dried out - I figure I am doing them a favour by bringing it to their attention.

                                1. re: sumdumgoy

                                  The original baker was Martial Ribreau (who opened Le Comptoir) - then came the 'family discord'. If Thobor worked there he came later.

                                  1. re: sumdumgoy

                                    Odd.

                                    I have been going to Le Comptoir which subsequently became Thobors since 2005-2006 and have never had anything short of outstanding. I've always found it bizarre when people report burnt or stale items-its never, ever happened to me. Not denying your experiences, just find it weird.

                                    My understanding is that Marc Thobor always worked at Le Comptoir (with Martial).

                                    Marc Thobor took over Le Comptoir well before Pascal sold, but that's beside the point.

                                    This thread has been kind of hijacked but I miss the old Celestin. I hope Pascal is happy in France.

                                    SWS

                                    1. re: Splendid Wine Snob

                                      No kidding! We had dinner at the 'new' Celestin about a month ago and it was BAD! It's a real shame because it used to excellent. Pascal would not be happy, that's all I can say. I wrote a review in a separate post.

                                  2. re: estufarian

                                    Sorry, I meant Thobors at 627 Mount Pleasant.

                  2. re: sharmj

                    After trying every possible pastry shop in TO (exclusing the burbs) I came to the conclusion that the best croissants and 'pains au chocolat' are at Amadeus : plump, light, flaky, real butter. Yummy !
                    http://amadeusfinecakes.com/

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