595260 Wed Feb 11 08:18:39 -0800 2009 35 33 Food Media and News 0 4406897 I watch a lot of the PBS Create channel shows, but wish they'd recycle some of their older, more straightforward cooking shows, like the many series that Julia Child and Jacques Pepin had both individually and together. Some of the current ones have strange formats: PERFECT DAY - various Nordic presenters and locations, usually involving cooking outdoors, such as sorbet prepared in a hole gouged into an ice table that had been carved onto a glacier. NEW JEWISH CUISINE - host has a gung-ho infomercial personality as he prepares not-particularly-Jewish (e.g. Ethiopian, but following kosher restrictions) food along with a gaggle of supposed friends, who don't seem to know their way around a kitchen. CHRISTINA COOKS - host has been around for decades, with cooking shows featuring vegetarian/vegan recipes. The odd part is that there's a guy with a guitar sitting in the kitchen, and a segment in which he plays and sings as she chops and stirs sans narration. Wed Feb 11 08:18:39 -0800 2009 159317 greygarious 1 4406922 Yup, some of them are odd. Anything with Julia or Jacque would be better. But, there's a lot of solid PBS shows on. Americas Test Kitchen, Everyday Food, Cooks Country (although haven't seen that in a while), Fast Food My Way (with Jacque). Wed Feb 11 08:26:34 -0800 2009 4406897 124339 bnemes3343 1 4407020 Years ago, the late Bruno Gerussi had a cooking show on CBC (For anyone not living in Canada in the 70s, Gerussi was the lead actor of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's show The Beachcombers, about logging salvagers on the west coast). It was called Celebrity Cooks and Bruno had mostly obscure Canadian celebrities ('obscure' and 'Canadian' being almost synonomous at the time) on the show. 95% of the time they would cook chicken of some sort. They didn't take themselves seriously, didn't really matter if they finished the recipe or not, and just had a fun time on-air. It too was quite odd. Then there was 'The Urban Peasant' featuring James Barber (alas he passed on as well, you can see him here if u want http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeKeBhdMgj8) A man with apparent respiratory problems and a bum leg. This show didn't seem to have a script, many times he'd just wing it. Odd, yes. Can't not mention The Frugal Gourmet with Jeff Smith. I always thought this show was ahead of its time and exposed many people to foreign cuisines. It was taken off the air when accusations arose involving Smith and sexual harassment and assault...he settled out of court. Too bad (on all counts...), as I think that was a very good show though not necessarily odd. Wed Feb 11 08:54:27 -0800 2009 4406897 176627 porker 2 4418214 The Urban Peasant was odd. Made even odder when he 'took' calls from his mother. AH The Beachcombers a classic of Canadian TV. Wasn't it called Celebrity Chefs? The show was featured in the movie about Bob Craine (Hogans Heros) the name of which slips my mind that stared Greg Kinnnier. Sat Feb 14 18:57:37 -0800 2009 4407020 23758 Withnail42 3 4418385 Yeah, it was 'Chefs' rather than 'Cooks'...the old noggin, you know. I assume you were also entertained by Wok With Yan (T-shirts such as Wok&Roll, Wok the Dog, Wok Around the Clock, etc). Hell, for years I thought Stephen Yan and Martin Yan were the same guy. Speaking of the Beachcombers, Jesse made a celebrity visit to my grade school. The Kinnier movie, Auto Focus? Sat Feb 14 21:07:36 -0800 2009 4418214 176627 porker 4 4418622 Yes Auto Focus. In the movie Bob Crane goes on the show and had a bit of a melt down. Sun Feb 15 04:46:49 -0800 2009 4418385 23758 Withnail42 3 4418417 Oh yeah, another Canadian, ahhhh, restricted-budget, cooking oldie was Cooking With Pasquale. Remember that guy with the hat, swilling 'coffee', and singing while the pasta cooked? Got me thinking now... Not Canadian, but there was also Burt Wolf, guy with a beard who travelled and wrote down working chef's recipes as they cooked the dish. I just got a kick out of it 'cause his notebook seemed only a prop, as he pretended to write down recipe notes and nodding the whole time. Liked that show. Then Jacques Pepin. The guy really knows his stuff, no doubt, but the show 'Cooking with Claudine' was a hoot. His daughter, Claudine, apparently didn't have a clue. It was fun watching her dad pefectly execute knife skills, dough rolling, crepe making, whatever, then she'd try and make a mess! Sat Feb 14 21:37:05 -0800 2009 4418214 176627 porker 4 4446308 i have burt wolf's cookbook....so he really was taking notes! Mon Feb 23 21:52:17 -0800 2009 4418417 105717 alkapal 2 4442098 Now that I think of it the first time I ever saw Julia Child on tv the was on Celebrity Chefs. I rember she towered over Bruno Gerussi. Sun Feb 22 14:55:25 -0800 2009 4407020 23758 Withnail42 1 4407800 Yeah, where are Graham Kerr and Justin Wilson now that we need them? The Brits had some really fine cooking shows too, like Two Fat Ladies and Floyd on Fish - the latter of which did get some PBS air time back in the '80s. Wed Feb 11 12:31:43 -0800 2009 4406897 14386 BobB 2 4413576 I loved the Floyd series, Travel Channel aired it for a while... Fri Feb 13 06:31:23 -0800 2009 4407800 24648 Sean 2 4415084 Don't forget everybody's favourite grandfather....James Barber - The Urban Peasant. edit..I see it was mentioned above. sorry. Funny though, I was just thinking of him yesterday. I did learn a lot about the KISS theory as applied to cooking. Fri Feb 13 13:08:20 -0800 2009 4407800 251167 billieboy 1 4417848 The current best odd (to me) is the one on Deutcsh Welle (German) TV. Five cooks and a host. A long, wide cooking counter with five big spaces, each filled with a wealth of the most fantastic ingredients. Each cook cooks one course of the five, all cooking at the same time, back and forth, cooking, all tasting, all having fun, sharing with the audience. No individual ego shows. Lots of laughs. Lots of really, really, really good food produced. Lots of interaction chefs, host, audience. Messy. Fun. No restrictions on double dipping. Sat Feb 14 15:31:33 -0800 2009 4406897 36661 Sam Fujisaka 1 4418163 Does anyone remember a cooking show with a large, very overweight host (not Justin Wilson) who would sit at a counter and cook and mix things. What I remember is that he seemed to get annoyed at things like an ingredient not as near-to-hand as he would like. It would be about the same vintage as the Frugal Gourmet, and I watched it on PBS, which was the only game in town in those days... Sat Feb 14 18:27:32 -0800 2009 4406897 34558 roxlet 2 4418763 Sounds like the most famous pre-Emeril New Orleans chef, Paul Prudhomme, owner of K-Paul's. He is still around. He gets the credit (or blame) for the ubiquitous "blackened" fish and meats. Before him, blackened meant burned and thrown out! Sun Feb 15 06:39:04 -0800 2009 4418163 159317 greygarious 1 4418398 Back in the early 90s, there was a show broadcast on TLC (back when it was The Learning Channel and broadcast "educational" content, e.g., lots of cooking shows during the day) that was a guy cooking everything using a food processor. Every single ingredient of every dish was chopped or mixed in a FP - and of course, most of it need not have been. The host had some odd mannerisms, too. Sat Feb 14 21:19:20 -0800 2009 4406897 10074 Caitlin McGrath 2 4418783 Caitlin, are you sure you weren't watching an infomercial for Cuisinart? ;-] Sun Feb 15 06:50:09 -0800 2009 4418398 227406 JohnE O 3 4419586 If it were, they'd have found a host less er, quirky (he was kind of weird)! Given the time, I'm sure the FPs were Cuisinarts, though... Sun Feb 15 12:52:45 -0800 2009 4418783 10074 Caitlin McGrath 2 4431033 I can't remember which channel it was on, but the best gadget cooking show from that era was Microwave Master with Donovan Jon Fandre. I used to love that show and it was quite informative. Wed Feb 18 21:20:46 -0800 2009 4418398 179170 DDR4040 1 4434495 I just thought of another one that I think is still running. Haven't watched TV for over a year. It is on Canadian CBC. It is called "What's for Dinner". It stars a man?? and I think his wife and they spend the whole 1/2 hour exchanging sexual double-entendres. Just awful awful. Thu Feb 19 20:33:10 -0800 2009 4406897 251167 billieboy 2 4434524 Are you sure that's his wife? I'm pretty sure he's a homosexual. Thu Feb 19 20:42:53 -0800 2009 4434495 146613 Evilbanana11 3 4434542 Didn't want to say that (not that there's anything wrong with that) :-) I think it is his wife though, but don't quote me on it. Something in the back of my head tells me so. Thu Feb 19 20:49:15 -0800 2009 4434524 251167 billieboy 4 4434707 Nope, they're not married. The guy is Ken Kostick, and I think he's the most annoying host I've ever seen on any TV show, not just cooking ones. I watched a few episodes just to see how horrible it would get. Now I have to change the channel if a commercial comes on for it. One show that is a little interesting is "Fixing Dinner"; it's not about the food as much as it is meal planning so you don't end up eating takeout pizza four nights a week. Think it's only on in Canada though. Another one is "Eat, Shrink and Be Merry", where two sisters (one's a pretty good cook, the other is kinda ditzy) take on a favourite dish from a local restaurant, try to reduce the fat and calorie content, and then have a cook-off with the restaurant. I've picked up some good tips from that show, but again, I think it's only on in Canada. Thu Feb 19 22:23:48 -0800 2009 4434542 48210 KevinB 3 4439524 Ken is openly out. They played on the whole thing during the show. As for his "wife" she did have a real hsband who really ran off with Tori Spelling. Sat Feb 21 13:16:05 -0800 2009 4434524 23758 Withnail42 2 4435026 How could I forget this show? (well, ahhh, simple I guess). I don't think they're married either. The wife who's up on these matters, tells me that the co-host, Mary Jo Eustace, was married to a guy named Dean Mcdonald. Apparently he was 'stolen' by Tori Spelling and now part of a show called "Tori&Dean" Fri Feb 20 05:37:17 -0800 2009 4434495 176627 porker 1 4434685 One early FN show--mid 90s--featured Jancis Robinson and the NYTimes' Frank Prial tasting and discussing wines. On a cheesy, simple set, they sat across a cocktail table from each other, tasted, talked, and, of course, expectorated each wine. I remember less what Jancis and Frank said than their distinctly energetic spit styles. Didn't last long. Thu Feb 19 22:08:02 -0800 2009 4406897 249467 bob96 2 4435223 Anyone remember "The Galloping Gourmet"??? Fri Feb 20 06:55:58 -0800 2009 4434685 174753 NellyNel 3 4435596 The Galloping Gourmet was the first show that came to my mind when I read the OP. Graham Kerr thoroughly wasted, drinking and laughing throughout the show. And the slightly racy references he kept making to his (I think now estranged/divorced) wife. It was on around the same time as the Dick Cavett show and between Dick and Graham, the young me got the sense of what it might be like to be really, really cool. It was the first show I ever saw that was wasn't deadly serious about cooking and the first time it occurred to me that it might be fun and cool to create stuff in the kitchen. Fri Feb 20 08:36:40 -0800 2009 4435223 24468 chicgail 3 4435603 Oh yeah - Graham Kerr! I mentioned him in my post above, along with Justin "I gar-awn-TEE it!" Wilson. Fri Feb 20 08:38:08 -0800 2009 4435223 14386 BobB 4 4435724 Graham Kerr has a new show (if it's still on). Don't remember the name. He's doing health food. Since he had health problems, he's had a Damascus type revelation. I remember on one show in his old Galloping Gourmet days, he was cutting the end off a sausage and made the comment "An old Jewish tradition". That was back in the 60's when things like that were not said on daytime TV. Fri Feb 20 09:10:06 -0800 2009 4435603 251167 billieboy 1 4436091 Not exactly a show, but the (I think it was) NBC affiliate in San Francisco used to have a short segment on the news with Joe Carcione, a produce vendor, who would introduce some item of produce and then explain what do do with it. With greens, the segment usually ended "a little olive oil, a little garlic, you got yourself a beautiful salad". The man had personality to burn. I loved it! Fri Feb 20 10:44:23 -0800 2009 4406897 13709 buttertart 1 4439562 A number of years ago, very-late night (as in, the the last show before they'd go to informercials for 3 or 4 hours) Food Network used to run this show with a British man who was "Your friendly greengrocer" or something like that. He'd travel the world, and only really dealt with fruits and veggies. He'd go to the fields, plants for production/prep, and shops for sales. It was such a quirky show to me, as I don't think i've EVER seen a human get so excited over vegtables! He's sometimes be so happy, he'd swoon and moan, and do a little dance! He never cooked on the show, if I remember right, but did give you ideas on what to do with the items once home. Perfect Day seems to be "New Scandinavian Cooking, part 2" It has all the same hosts the older series has, and each show is varied with who hosts it. It jumps around more than the first series, which has one host for each country's cuisine. I see it almost equal travel show and cooking show. It's got me wanting to visit all the counties so bad, based on the beauty alone, and I know there should be awesome food! Sat Feb 21 13:37:06 -0800 2009 4406897 23858 Honeychan 2 4442075 Yet another Canadian show makes the list. That sounds like Pete Lucket. aka produce Pete. Last I heard of him he had an on line store that would let you buy anything on line. Sun Feb 22 14:49:12 -0800 2009 4439562 23758 Withnail42 3 4442090 Yes, that would be him! Pete Lucket! He's so cute, with how much he adores his produce. It made me want to try more things, since he'd talk them up so much. ANYTHING online? I have a very odd imagination, I wonder how his store would be??! Sun Feb 22 14:54:09 -0800 2009 4442075 23858 Honeychan 4 4443508 Pete has a couple of store out in Halifax Nova Scotia - called Petes Frootique - and on some of the cooking shows filmed out in Halifax the hosts actually go shopping at his place. Mon Feb 23 08:04:09 -0800 2009 4442090 14403 Pizza Lover 2 4446315 i loved that greengrocer program.. his enthusiasm was catching! Mon Feb 23 21:56:51 -0800 2009 4439562 105717 alkapal