594799 Mon Feb 09 13:55:35 -0800 2009 28 1 San Francisco Bay Area 0 4401670 Hi all, I was recently reminded of the great orange beef dish I had at my local Chinese restaurant growing up on the East Coast. Unfortunately, I had a disappointing attempt at one last night. I'd love to find a great reliable source for Orange Beef in the Bay area, preferably in San Francisco or on the Peninsula, as I don't make it over to the East Bay too much. I prefer the beef nice and crispy with plenty of sauce to go with rice. Thanks! Mon Feb 09 13:55:35 -0800 2009 178441 luckytomato 1 4401703 I have some places in the East Bay, but that's not in the direction you wanted.. Perhaps other Chauhounds might know of better. Mon Feb 09 14:02:29 -0800 2009 4401670 13964 J T 1 4402882 Try Empero Taste on Balboa (used to be called Best Panda, same chef). I like the orange chicken, very generous portion. Maybe not "crispy." Perhaps if you requested it crispy they could do so. Oh, I miss read -- I've only had the orange chicken. They probably have orange beef on the menu. Believe it or not, I just had some great Mongolian Beef (nice and crispy) at P.F. Change in Corte Madera. Mon Feb 09 21:11:13 -0800 2009 4401670 12520 walker 1 4403024 Jai Yun makes the best I've tasted anywhere. But it's not available ala carte. Mon Feb 09 23:33:00 -0800 2009 4401670 10039 Melanie Wong 2 4404661 I agree with Melanie, you must give Jai Yun a try. The Orange Beef is the best. Not much sauce for your rice, but extremely flavorful. I think of it often. Tue Feb 10 12:19:30 -0800 2009 4403024 94441 sfwtchris 2 4595379 jai yun... Tue Apr 14 13:23:27 -0700 2009 4403024 13300 Civil Bear 1 4403836 Yes, I remember it 'crispy' as well...almost carmelized/crispy because of the sugars used to create this dish (at least t a number of places in NY)...I have yet to find a similar preparation here in SF...but I keep plugging away to do so! I look forward to any responses...but remember..."delivery food" of any 'fried' things..turn mushy after steaming in the delivery carton...so "eat in" is the only way to go ... Tue Feb 10 08:58:02 -0800 2009 4401670 10485 ChowFun_derek 1 4404034 Not having tried orange beef at many other places, I do like orange peel beef at Jing Jing in Palo Alto. Tue Feb 10 09:47:16 -0800 2009 4401670 152839 Peter Quigley 1 4404051 Jing Jing in Palo Alto makes a great, saucy version of this dish. Check it out here: http://www.jingjinggourmet.com/2005/default.asp?cid=12 Tue Feb 10 09:51:10 -0800 2009 4401670 43540 orezscu 1 4404159 I like the one at Abacus, give it a try. Tue Feb 10 10:21:06 -0800 2009 4401670 41464 kuri 1 4405293 Chowhounds hate this place (I think because it's California Chinese instead of authentic Chinese) but here goes... Eric's in Noe Valley has a great orange beef dish. That was my first favorite dish there. Their sesame beef is equally good if not better. Both use beef that is dry fried or something like that. The orange beef doesn't have a gloopy sauce (thankfully) but has a nice flavor and little bits of orange peel. Tue Feb 10 15:38:05 -0800 2009 4401670 10992 katya 2 4407410 I did a search on this board and did not find any that hates this place. How did you come to this conclusion? Did you have a really bad personal experience there? Interestingly enough, I always consider Eric, Alice, Eliza and Abacus belong to the same category of California Chinese restaurants. Here is one that likes Abacus -- http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/456130 Wed Feb 11 10:38:15 -0800 2009 4405293 41464 kuri 3 4407715 I just did a search over the past year's comments and it seems like votes are split on Eric's. I definitely remember when I joined the Chowhound boards in 2001 that there were a lot of disparaging comments about Eric's, mostly about it being unauthentic. I've always had really good experiences at Eric's. It's still my favorite place for Chinese food. Wed Feb 11 12:13:53 -0800 2009 4407410 10992 katya 1 4406290 The original poster requested "CRISPY" Orange Beef...however not one person has mentioned this adjective! People...Are your suggestions "Crispy", or just your favorite versions of this dish? Please specify! Thanks Wed Feb 11 01:49:34 -0800 2009 4401670 10485 ChowFun_derek 2 4406860 That's why I suggested Jai Yun's. It's crispy and coated with just a little bit of sauce that has a bit of a spicy kick to it. Wed Feb 11 08:08:49 -0800 2009 4406290 10039 Melanie Wong 3 4407681 I don't remember orange chicken when we went there at the old place...is he still just doing priced multi courses, or can you choose what individual dishes to order like your average restaurant? Wed Feb 11 12:05:14 -0800 2009 4406860 10485 ChowFun_derek 4 4407806 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/594799 Wed Feb 11 12:33:45 -0800 2009 4407681 10039 Melanie Wong 2 4409719 It's a pretty common dish, and in New York, it does often come with a thin coating of gloopy sauce. It's just a case of finding a reliable Chinese place, for California style Chinese. I think the Eric's, Eliza suggestions are good.... I think I've had a good version at Brandy Ho's years ago. These would all have it crispy. I seem to recall Burma Superstar having it on the menu, does anyone know if that's the case? Thu Feb 12 00:05:16 -0800 2009 4406290 145096 sugartoof 3 4409728 It's a classic Hunan dish. Thu Feb 12 00:19:18 -0800 2009 4409719 10039 Melanie Wong 1 4594541 One to stay away from is the version at Hunan Home's (sic) in Los Altos. Even more disappointing considering that I pointedly asked our waiter if it was Americanized or an authentic Hunan or Sichuan version, and he said that it the real thing. Tried it last week. Disgusting, more breading than meat, could not tell what kind of meat was under all that batter, inedible deep-fried slices of orange peel, floury tasting, and blandish sauce. Tue Apr 14 09:43:15 -0700 2009 4401670 10039 Melanie Wong 2 4594790 I just went back to my local Chinese "Red Jade" after it being reviewed on "Check Please Bay Area" hoping beyond hope that it had somehow changed...morphed...gotten a different chef.....I had their pot stickers (poorly made, grossly thick skin, mushy tasteless filling...one of the worst representation of pot stickers I have ever had!) ...but I also tried their Orange Beef" which was a poor reflection of "Panda"'s version(!!!) ...sweet , thin orange sauce tough turds of meat, no dried orange/tangerine peel and no peppers to balance the sweetness ...just a couple of bits of fresh orange rounded this out. Red Jade is on Church St. off Market...it truly is as bad as it's always been....nice people and pleasant space though... Tue Apr 14 10:49:37 -0700 2009 4594541 10485 ChowFun_derek 3 4594823 I recently had the best Orange Beef at a random place called Uncle Yu's in Livermore. I went there for a wedding rehearsal lunch not expecting much but was very pleasantly surprised. The Orange Beef is different than other places because they have an extra light yet crispy texture. It was the best Orange Beef I've ever had. The restaurant overall is pretty good, yet kind of pricey for Chinese food. But it has great ambiance, kind of like PF Chang's but better. Tue Apr 14 11:00:15 -0700 2009 4594790 112612 calalilly 4 4595353 First off, let me thank you for the Peking duck rec at Five Happiness. Enjoyed it very much. Uncle Yu's has three locations. i've heard good things about the one in San Ramon. http://www.uncleyu.com/locations.html Tue Apr 14 13:17:23 -0700 2009 4594823 10039 Melanie Wong 5 4597790 =) I read about your dinner there, sounded really good. Wed Apr 15 08:45:07 -0700 2009 4595353 112612 calalilly 1 4595332 Thanks everyone. I have yet to have any orange beef dishes, but will add the restaurants to my growing list of "to try" places. Tue Apr 14 13:12:06 -0700 2009 4401670 178441 luckytomato 1 5172357 Took relatives there on Monday. Had the beef chow fun with "exo sauce" which was excellent. Does anyone know what exo sauce is? Can't seem to find a recipe anywhere. Thanks Wed Nov 11 06:46:20 -0800 2009 4401670 27552 Ronald Wong 2 5172421 XO Sauce http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XO_sauce Wed Nov 11 07:16:57 -0800 2009 5172357 17116 kc72 2 5173040 Which restaurant did you take relatives "there"? Wed Nov 11 10:38:15 -0800 2009 5172357 12520 walker 3 5179266 Empero Taste. Fri Nov 13 11:28:39 -0800 2009 5173040 27552 Ronald Wong