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Feb 7, 2009 02:39 PM

Burger place for Sunday Night

I'm trying to pick a burger place for tomorrow night, it's between Grace, Lucky Devils, 25 degrees, or Tops. I posted this on the enormous best burger topic post, however i think it just got lost in there. It's just me in a friend I don't care about decor, or price really, just which one has the best overall meat and flavor since I only go out for burgers once in a blue moon :).


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  1. I must admit I've never been to Grace, but of the other three I would probably vote for 25 Degrees as best burger by small margin over Lucky Devils. My only qualifier to 25D is sometimes flaky service. You can valet-park at the Roosevelt and avoid the insanity of downtown Hollywood parking on a weekend.

    If by Tops you mean The Original Tops in Pasadena (best known for the Kobe Bistro Burger), it's not bad, but it's HUGE and in my experience you should order it pretty rare or you'll get it overcooked.

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    1. re: maxzook

      Yes I meant the original tops Kobe Bistro burger, I generally get my burger medium to medium well :O so i guess if i go there i should order it medium rare. Sounds like you think 25 Degrees is best though. Which burger do you recommend there.

      1. re: Ben7643

        On-the-one-hand, Tops Kobe Bistro Burger is more than just having a burger, It is the totality of 1/2 pound of American Kobe beef, Smoked Mozzarella Cheese, Caramelized onions, Tomato and Greens, and Herb Mayonnaise on a Ciabatta roll . Hey, money is everytrhing these days and this burger for under $7 allows you to go back for more two or three times for what other places will charge. Also, no other place has a side of deep fried zucchini as good (the small is big enough for two).

        3838 E Colorado Blvd (This location only – Between Rosemead Blvd. And Michillinda)
        Pasadena, CA

        On-the-other-hand, the same family that owns Tops and crfeated that Kobe Bistro burger owns Guss's. We have not seen many post about the burgers at Gus's mostly because Hounds discuss the Q at Q places. I have still not tried those several kinds of burgers at Gus's but from what I have seen when I have one there is salads and burgers just might be what this place is about. The burgers I have seen look just as great as that Tops burger special and designed with a knowledge and love for burgers...

        1. re: JeetJet

          My 11 year old pup is a fan of Gus' burgers ("plain, no accoutrements"). It's all he orders when we go.

          1. re: JeetJet

            I didn't like much about the revamped Gus's other than the cute waitress and pleasant decor, but that's a good thought. With their connection to Tops, burgers ought to be tops.

      2. If you do not ming the trek, check out 26 Beach Restaurant, they been doing burgers for over 25 years. They do not get a ton of play except from me and a few others. I think they need to hire a publicist like Lucky Devil, 25 Degrees, 8oz or all the other trendy places.

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        1. re: Burger Boy

          Never had the burger at 26 Beach, but years ago I had burgers at Beach Cafe, the guy who started the the place used to make the hamburger buns for the burgers.

          1. re: monku

            This is the same people, lease ran out at old location. Back then it was father, mother and 2 sons. One son went to culinary school, the other moved up north. Dad used to make the buns but his health is not so good these days. Still making great burgers and pastas and amazing french toasts for the brunch. Get over there and rekindle old burger memories....................LOL

            1. re: Burger Boy

              Looking at the website, the bun in the picture didn't look like a commerically made bun, which is what reminded me of the buns they used to made.

              I talked to the father a few times when I went to the original location and at the time he said his son had the restaurant up the street (26 Beach), so for a while both were operating at the same time. The father told me he was a pioneer in the sushi restaurant business in Little Tokyo and got out of the sushi business when it started getting popular and opened Beach Cafe. He was proud that all his baked items were made on the premises from scratch.

              I rarely get around to ordering the burger because there are so many other items on their menu you can't get anywhere else.

              1. re: monku

                There was an overlap. The son was hedging his bet that the old location would have the rent inreased an unreasonable amount. It sits empty to this day.

                1. re: Burger Boy

                  Well i live near 26 beach actually, i've never had a burger there in the typical sense. But i've had many of their pastas and their grilled chicken pesto sandwich. Everything there has been good but I always leave feeling like i paid to much for the food I got. It's very good food but somehow it's still overpriced.

                  1. re: Ben7643

                    I understand what you are saying, but where can youget an 8 rib rack of lamb, with veggies and mashed and with a caesar for $31, that is a meal and a half. Every other place I have had rack of lamb at gives you 4 ribs and a veggie and starch for $28-35, then you got to pay $7 for the salad. The burgers are 7-8 oz patties on a homemade bun with exotic toppings with a salad or fires for $12-$15, I think they have some Kobe stuff for a few bucks more. I recently had the breakfast burger for dinner, it was great $14 for burger with bacon, egg and cheese with french fries. The salads are huge and so are the pastas. Have you tried the brunch french toasts. I think you get good value here. Hey, they are doing some specials at lunch time, I had this shrimp pesto pasta salad thing the other day, very nice. The also have this new salad with carmelized peaches, blue cheese, walnuts and stuff that is very tasteeeee. Enough of my shilling and pimping. Check out the burgers, salads and french toast and let me and westsidegal know what you think. They must be doing something right to have been around for 26 or 27 years, damn, that is like a century in restaurant years! I know times are tough for everyone right now, but lets try to still frequent are favorite places, maybe not as much but we need to keep all these great places around. As S.E. Rykoff says, "Enjoy life, eat out more often".

                    1. re: Burger Boy

                      Well actually their burgers are similar price to the other places I mentioned. I just haven't heard that many people talk about them when they think of best burger, and since i don't go out for a burger often if ever :) i want to indulge tonight.

                      Lets say we add 26 beach to the Mix do you all like that burger better then the other 4 places I mentioned. I agree their salads are spectacular their ahi tuna is one of my favorites.

                      1. re: Ben7643

                        I do, but I am BIASED. These guys have been doing Freat straight up burgers for 26 years and Amazing exotic burgers also. The Bombay Burger, The Ole, The Breakfast burger, look at the menu, they make their buns there and it comes with a salad or fresh cut fries. I wish they had shakes or fried zuchini but for a burger, this is my place! If you do not go tonight, make sure you go and try them and let us know your opinion.

              2. re: Burger Boy

                you forgot to mention the terrific, inventive, consistent salads they serve

                1. re: westsidegal

                  Hey, westsidegal, have you been to lunch there in the last few weeks, they got some lunch specials and some really good new salads. Manggia

                  1. re: Burger Boy

                    i mostly do dinner at 26 beach,
                    i prefer THE SPOT in hermosa beach or shamshiri grill in westwood for lunch. ( completely different types of restaurants).

                    i guess if the new lunch salads get a following, they might be added to the dinner menu--d'ya think?

                    1. re: westsidegal

                      I hope so, really like the fried chicken one, with ranch dressing and i doused it with tabasco. The Pesto shrimp was also nice. I think the problem is you have to many people who have their favorites, the warm brown rice, ginger salmon, the pan fried goat cheese. It would be hard to imagine them getting rid of some salads, but who knows. I might actually go tomorrow night, I saw the valeentines menu and they are doing a ciappino and a white chocolate raspberry bread pudding that caught my eye.

                      1. re: Burger Boy

                        my favorite salad of theirs is the tuscan salad with sun dried tomatoes, asparagus, artichoke hearts, and berries.
                        for some reason i don't see it on their webpage--i hope that doesn't mean that they are planning to drop it.

                        1. re: westsidegal

                          I know they have been doing some new things and they made some changes agew months back, but I think they still make the od stuff as long as they have the ingredients, which I am guessing they would. Try the Santa Rosa salad, i enjoyed it and it is not my usual cup of tea.

          2. i would suggest the burger at morton's. i think they do it on sundays now. also, i have been to 8 oz burger bar twice recently and think very highly of theirs.

            1. ok, so with all this burger talk i got eager and figured two burgers in a day wont kill me. so i hopped in my car and headed over to 26 beach. After talking to the hostess i decided on the french burger due to her rec. It was OK, the bun was spectacular, the meat was a good quality but didnt taste very meaty to me a bit bland and boring. the mushrooms were not that great either and the cheddar they used on it was unremarkable. That said it was a good burger but i didnt like it compared to other things ive had at 26 beach. I'll come back again but not for a burger. I'm still unsure of where to try tonight but im leaning towards lucky devils ;)


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              1. re: Ben7643

                Back to your original post, I've only been to Lucky Devil's and Tops. I haven't considered Grace for burgers and 25 Degrees has been on my 'to try list' for a long time. I have enjoyed both burgers at Lucky Devil's several times although it's their beer selection on tap that draws me there! Great burgers and 'craft beer' is a best of both worlds for me! I also like that they have lowered their burger prices which now do not include the sides like fries or a small salad. IF I want a side I'll order it. Tops is the best of the fast food burgers but I sort of divide the burger world up into the under and over $10 burgers. Tops is under and LD's is over. The Office Burger at both locations of Father's Office for $12 is my favorite, Blue Palms Brewhouse, Beachwood BBQ and Boneyard Bistro (most expensive) are all very tasty (really great craft beer selection at all of them again influences me).

                1. re: sel

                  Fathers office looks like a fun place, but I don't like the fact i can't put ketchup on my burger. Or that they only cook it one way. I was really disappointed with the burger I had at lunch, i'm hoping my friend still wants to get a burger tonight cause i can't end my burger spree with that one.

                  1. re: Ben7643

                    Why do you say they only cook it one way? They have always been happy to do them anywhere from rare to at least medium (I've never been with anyone who asked for well done). Or are you referring to only one type of burger? If so, then that is the case. But a great one trick pony.

                    1. re: Servorg

                      OH really i heard that if you order it rare it comes out medium and if you order it medium well it still comes out medium and so on :)

                      1. re: Ben7643

                        I always ask for medium rare and they have hit the mark exactly every time.

                        1. re: Ben7643

                          Well I order it very rare and that's how it has been served at least 5 or 6 times. Never overcooked. As much as I love Sang Yoon's Office Burger I will say that once my GF ordered hers medium and it arrived rare. Same with the lady sitting next to us. Replacement burgers were rare too.

                  2. re: Ben7643

                    Ben, you are the man, i respect you for doing that. I would ask you to do it again but get either the Ole, Bombay, King Kobe or the Breakfast Burger, the Veggie burger is also very good, they make it in house. The French is rather boring to me. Have a great meal tonight where ever you go and enjoy!

                    1. re: Burger Boy

                      I'll go back eventually but so far my favorite thing i've had from there have been their salads and the Chicken pesto sandwhich i absolutely loved that. Thanks for the recs :).

                      1. re: Ben7643

                        Try the lunch special this week, shrimp pesto pasta salad, excellent.

                  3. Ben7643, Tops all the way. I forget the dang name, but get the pastrami burger. I think they call it a Tops special. Sounds kinda gross, but it's the stuff. The Kobe burger is pretty sweet, too. My kind of place.