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  <id>592300</id>
  <title>top 10 food shows of 2009?</title>
  <published_at>Fri Jan 30 19:11:23 -0800 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>24</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>33</id>
    <name>Food Media and News</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
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        <id>4374539</id>
        <content>what the title says any suggestions?</content>
        <published_at>Fri Jan 30 19:11:23 -0800 2009</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>222784</id>
          <name>wustof</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4374984</id>
      <content>I like Ace of Cakes; Iron Chef America; Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives; Ultimate Recipe Showdown; and The Next Food Network Star.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 31 04:19:43 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4374539</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>214452</id>
        <name>lscanlon</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4375157</id>
      <content>There aren't 10 good food shows. I'd consider myself lucky if there was 5 good ones this year.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 31 07:04:52 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4374539</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10195</id>
        <name>KTinNYC</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4379541</id>
      <content>Top Five that come to mind:

Good Eats
Iron Chef
Lidia's Italy
America's Test Kitchen
Top Chef
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      <published_at>Mon Feb 02 06:44:41 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4374539</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>101707</id>
        <name>yankeefan</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4380393</id>
      <content>No Reservations
Restaurant Wars (BBC America)
Master Chef (BBC - can use a proxy server to watch episodes on BBC IPlayer)
Top Chef
Iron Chef

And reruns of
Any of Mario batali's shows
After Hours with Daniel (great show but MOJOHD is no more)
Kitchen Nightmares (UK Version)

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      <published_at>Mon Feb 02 10:28:51 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4379541</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>143892</id>
        <name>chris2269</name>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4380631</id>
      <content>^^ this guy knows his stuff. We have the same tastes.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 02 11:32:19 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4380393</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>146613</id>
        <name>Evilbanana11</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4384400</id>
      <content>My list:
No Reservations
Secrets of a Restaurant Chef
Top Chef
America's Test Kitchen

And then I honestly can't think of another that's not a rerun.....
Made in Spain, perhaps?  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 03 13:14:48 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4374539</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85007</id>
        <name>bostonbroad</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4385236</id>
      <content>No Reservations
Simply Ming
Mexico: One Plate at a Time
Diary of a Foodie
Good Eats</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 03 17:32:02 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4384400</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>163246</id>
        <name>tofuburrito</name>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4386884</id>
      <content>Is Mexico: One Plate at a Time still doing new eps, or just reruns?  It doesn't seem to be on at all in my neck of the woods.\

I will add that I'm very excited about Eric Ripert's upcoming show, Avec Eric, posted about elsewhere.  His vlog is very cool, even though he cooks completely in a toaster oven.  Can't wait to see what he does with a whole show!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Feb 04 09:55:39 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4385236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85007</id>
        <name>bostonbroad</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4386989</id>
      <content>I think they are new. Here's what it say's at his web site:

Season Six: Fiesta at Rick's
For five exciting seasons, the critically acclaimed MEXICO &#8211; One Plate at a Time has given public television viewers a taste of the flavors, the people, the stories, and the fun of Mexico. In each episode, beloved chef, restaurateur, author, teacher and culinary adventurer, Rick Bayless, seamlessly weaves techniques, recipes, cultural musings, and a generous helping of off-the-wall surprises to create a whole new kind of cooking show. Now, Frontera Media Productions proudly announces Season 6&#8212;Fiesta @ Rick&#8217;s&#8212;thirteen episodes with a common theme: entertaining.

But we&#8217;re not talking stuffy dinner parties. When Rick says &#8220;entertaining,&#8221; he means it literally. These shows are great TV that&#8217;s delightful to watch. In each episode, Rick presents a start-to-finish, Mexican-inspired party, showing viewers how to pull it all off with plenty of creativity, color and flavor&#8212;but without all the stress that usually comes with having people over. At these parties, even the host can join in the fun.
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      <published_at>Wed Feb 04 10:25:48 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4386884</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>163246</id>
        <name>tofuburrito</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4387092</id>
      <content>Food TV pretty much equates to Betty Crocker Cooking TV these days.  Certain food channels have done everything to marginalize themselves into an abyss of semi30secondaddsugaraskoneingredientcrap.

However, if you dig around PBS has the Jaques Pepin series, Made in Spain, reruns of Bitterman and a few other mentionables.  Too bad Top Chef this year seems to have gone to the unskilled, untrained or inconsistant.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Feb 04 10:48:45 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4374539</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>88192</id>
        <name>holy chow</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4387603</id>
      <content>I have to admit to being more than a little off put by the recent Jacques Pepin "More Fast Food My Way."  I've only watched a couple of epis, but in both he used stuff like store-bought cookie dough and other such shortcuts.  If I denigrate Sandra Lee for such non-cooking (and I do), how much latitude can I give even the awesome Pepin before I'm just being a hypocrite?  It's a dilemma.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Feb 04 13:02:58 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4387092</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85007</id>
        <name>bostonbroad</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4388681</id>
      <content>Right now I watch
- No Reservations &amp;
- Lidia's Italy

I used to watch Simply Ming too; don't know what happened to him. I really liked his style. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Feb 04 19:18:09 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4388425</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>255446</id>
        <name>Gigi007</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4389371</id>
      <content>Shows I love to watch 
No Reservations
Triple D (Diners Drive ins and Dives)
Top Chef
Iron Chef
Chopped 
Anything with Mario Batali
Bizarre Foods
And I will get some flack for this but LOVE HELLS KITCHEN!

Have only see Man VS Food once, still not sure about that show
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      <published_at>Thu Feb 05 06:09:03 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4388816</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>237148</id>
        <name>bermudagourmetgoddess</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4402547</id>
      <content>In order of my interest:
Top Chef
Hell's Kitchen
No Reservations
Iron Chef
Bizarre Foods
Man v. Food
Ultimate Recipe Showdown


I tried to get into Chopped but Ted Allen - who I have loved elsewhere - turns me off with how stiff he is as host.  This with watching URS!  
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      <published_at>Mon Feb 09 18:33:12 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4389371</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>152043</id>
        <name>TampaAurora</name>
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    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4403330</id>
      <content>A few people have mentioned Man v. Food on this thread.  I've never seen it - can some give me a feel for it?  Thanks in advance.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 10 06:17:22 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4402547</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85007</id>
        <name>bostonbroad</name>
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      <level>6</level>
      <id>4403733</id>
      <content>A little local flavor leading up to a food "stunt" - eat a 4-lb steak in less than an hour, etc.  Tends to be repetitive.  I don't see a long life for it, but what do I know?</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 10 08:26:03 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4403330</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>202198</id>
        <name>ferret</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>4404973</id>
      <content>I wonder how long he can go on eating like that and not have a coronary!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 10 13:49:30 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4403733</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85738</id>
        <name>libgirl2</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>8</level>
      <id>4405714</id>
      <content>I'm more worried about his gastrointestinal health but we're on the same thought wave.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 10 18:08:00 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4404973</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>152043</id>
        <name>TampaAurora</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4389813</id>
      <content>I've never seen him use store bought cookie dough, nor anything else store bought besides some odd and unusual pastes.  All I've watched him cook was from scratch sauces, soups etc.  I have watched him use smoked salmon from a store, but few of us actually smoke our own salmon.

I've sorted through his recipes and didn't see any cookie dough... care to enlighten me?

http://www.kqed.org/w/jpfastfood/recipes.html</content>
      <published_at>Thu Feb 05 08:37:26 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4387603</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>88192</id>
        <name>holy chow</name>
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      <level>4</level>
      <id>4389857</id>
      <content>In both of these episodes his desserts use store bought pastry:

Episode 208: The Egg First!
Minute Recipe: Red Pepper Dip
Jacques loves all eggs, all ways! Cooking them correctly is an important technique, and who better to demonstrate the perfect hard-cooked egg than a master of technique! Jacques begins this menu with hard-cooked eggs used as a garnish for his Asparagus Fans with Mustard Sauce. Simply seared in moments, Scallops Grenobloise is the ultimate fast dish and when served with Potato Gratin with Cream, it makes a rich main course. Jam Tartines with Fruit Sherbet conclude the menu.

Episode 209: Fast Proof
Minute Recipe: Cheesy Bread Sticks
Bread does take time to make, but Jacques shows viewers how to mix and bake a loaf of bread in one pot in his Slow and Easy Bread in a Pot. Next, he shares his favorite eggs prepared in little ramekins and known as Cocotte Eggs with Creamed Mushrooms. When Jacques raids the pantry and freezer, he finds the fixings to make a Ragout of Broccolini, Beans, and Sausage. Fresh berries and a neat twist on store-bought pastry crust end the meal with Cookie Dough Raspberry Tart.

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      <published_at>Thu Feb 05 08:51:12 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4389813</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85007</id>
        <name>bostonbroad</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4398331</id>
      <content>bostonbroad wrote about the "More Fast Food My Way" series, the recipes for which are here: http://www.kqed.org/w/morefastfoodmyway/recipes.html

They don't put up the recipes for every dish he does on the show.  And in glancing through both the recipes from "Fast Food My Way" and "More Fast Food..." there are many dishes/recipes I recall as having used store bought prepared or canned ingredients that aren't there.  For example, on the episode that aired on PBS here in Virginia on the 7th of February (episode 217), he used a can of pears in syrup.  He reduced some of the syrup with apricot jam and butter and warmed the pears in that and served it as dessert.  Personally, I don't have any issue with that.  I have to admit to being very curious about how those who, as bostonbroad noted, dismiss or otherwise take issue with other cooking show hosts or other cooks for using such prepared ingredients would react to Jaques Pepin doing the same.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 08 11:12:46 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4389813</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>80141</id>
        <name>ccbweb</name>
      </user>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4395263</id>
      <content>Iron Chef America
Lidia's Italy

reruns of Nick Stellino's Family Kitchen</content>
      <published_at>Fri Feb 06 22:31:03 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4374539</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>207176</id>
        <name>grantham</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4397086</id>
      <content>none are particularly outstanding (i dont get pbs btw)

but if i had to pick-

travel/food shows (yes even ray ray) - i love them
throwdown
DDD
top chef
kitchen nightmares (us and uk)
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      <published_at>Sat Feb 07 18:25:22 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4395263</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>177237</id>
        <name>sugarsnapp</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4398277</id>
      <content>No Reservations - my favorite show of all time
Bizarre Foods
Good Eats
Kitchen Nightmares US version - just started getting this on Comcast On Demand!!!!
Ace of Cakes
Triple D - never watch this hungry - how does he find these great places?!
Throwdown
Man v Food
Rerun's of Mario Batali
Any travel/cooking show, yes I like RR

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      <published_at>Sun Feb 08 10:45:07 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4374539</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110267</id>
        <name>MaryKatesMom</name>
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