591914 Thu Jan 29 11:39:23 -0800 2009 110 2 Los Angeles Area 0 4369783 Tito's are the best tacos on Los Angeles. I live 30 miles away but it dosn't stop me from waiting in line for there great food. I wish there was one closer to my house. Thu Jan 29 11:39:23 -0800 2009 260760 magic man 1 4369880 It's the line... by the time you get to the front and actually get your food, you're so hungry you don't care what it tastes like. (I don't like Tito's tacos. They're greasy and salty instead of being flavourful.) Thu Jan 29 11:56:22 -0800 2009 4369783 10811 Das Ubergeek 2 4371624 Almost every time this comes up it seems that hardly anyone acknowledges that the tacos are actually the worst thing on the menu (except maybe the guacamole water... but the dry meat thing in the tacos is really that bad). To pile on titos about the tacos is just beating a straw man... even if the OP seems to like them. Despite the name, titos tacos is for chips and salsa, beef and cheese burritos, and especially the enchilada... which must be near the top of LA's greatest creations. None of these things has to resemble anything actually existing in mexico to be good. Yellow cheese has its place. Thu Jan 29 21:15:11 -0800 2009 4369880 206289 theonceler 3 4372848 theonceler, Your post actually makes me want to go back to try Tito's again. The tacos and guac water were exactly the two things that turned me off about the place, and that's all I ordered (of course, you'd expect with a name like "Tito's TACOS" that their namesake would be up to par...... Mr Taster Fri Jan 30 09:44:12 -0800 2009 4371624 17579 Mr Taster 1 4369962 Nostalgia. Mr Taster Thu Jan 29 12:16:12 -0800 2009 4369783 17579 Mr Taster 1 4369982 An altered state. Thu Jan 29 12:20:23 -0800 2009 4369783 128722 streetgourmetla 2 4370383 Bingo above to both Mr. Taster, and streetgourmetla. I think you have solved the Tito's debate once and for all. If you didn't grow up with it, leave it be I guess. (Still sporting that capped tooth that I cracked years ago at Tito's). Thu Jan 29 13:46:22 -0800 2009 4369982 11509 cagey 1 4370009 tender beef wrapped in a tortilla and deep fried topped with cheese... mmmmm... what was the original question? Thu Jan 29 12:27:08 -0800 2009 4369783 118060 mrshankly 1 4370035 Best salsa in town. And braised beef is awesome. So greasy and salty but I love it. I just can't do it more than one a month. Thu Jan 29 12:35:04 -0800 2009 4369783 155500 ExtraCheesePlease 1 4370070 For ten years we had been going to Johnnie's Pastrami and noticed the lines at Tito's Tacos. One day we walked over and asked people why they were standing in these long lines. They said they were the best. A couple of years later we finally went--eh. Five years later and we haven't gone back. Thu Jan 29 12:42:36 -0800 2009 4369783 168597 The Old Man 2 4370122 I went years ago and only lasted a few bites. I'd rather stand in a line at the DMV. Thu Jan 29 12:53:52 -0800 2009 4370070 128722 streetgourmetla 3 4370170 "I went years ago and only lasted a few bites. I'd rather stand in a line at the DMV" You always know the best food. What are they serving? Thu Jan 29 13:04:23 -0800 2009 4370122 168597 The Old Man 4 4370254 A heaping helping of bored inefficiency. Thu Jan 29 13:21:59 -0800 2009 4370170 10811 Das Ubergeek 5 4386699 That's a good take. Perhaps people go for the bored attitude the employees have. Been like that since day one. The food is OK. Salty shredded beef with an OK sauce. Not bad, not as good as it once was,but never understood the huge following. Wed Feb 04 09:11:14 -0800 2009 4370254 263209 Lee Vining 4 4370401 "Nacos" Supreme and "you got a beef?" burrito Thu Jan 29 13:50:34 -0800 2009 4370170 128722 streetgourmetla 5 4370639 LOL!!!!! Thu Jan 29 14:52:00 -0800 2009 4370401 10811 Das Ubergeek 1 4370135 simple answer: NOTHING Thu Jan 29 12:57:18 -0800 2009 4369783 10704 wilafur 2 4370166 I think that the naysayers are being a bit harsh.. The chips are good, the salsa very fresh, the beef and bean burrito pretty good, the tacos okay. But heck I have an 11 year old that likes it and perhaps when he is older and his palate expands will like other places. I am just turning him on to the Taco Truck idea and he likes it. Slowly but surely he will come around.. I prefer this over Del taco or Taco Bell for my 11 year old.. So all in all pick your battles.. Thu Jan 29 13:03:16 -0800 2009 4370135 97161 Foodandwine 1 4370355 I love Tito's. I know they are by no means gourmet but there is that combination of textures (the shell that has a gradient of crunch levels from the crisp outside to the tug-and-chew inside where it has mixed with the meat juices), the chew of the beef and the added dimension of the cheese and salsa that I have found nowhere else. They are still my favorite tacos! The last time I ate there, though, I was horrified to see how much weight I put on after that. Thu Jan 29 13:40:34 -0800 2009 4369783 10764 monkuboy 2 4370740 It has nothing to do with snobbery. It has everything to do with what tastes good! http://chowhound.chow.com/manifesto Mr Taster Thu Jan 29 15:24:42 -0800 2009 4370676 17579 Mr Taster 1 4370431 they are disgusting bland greaseballs with some kind of weird artificial ingredients mixed in for good measure. Thu Jan 29 13:59:50 -0800 2009 4369783 11935 westsidegal 2 4370455 Insulting the people waiting in line will get you nowhere. I for one am proud to be made from artificial ingredients :) Thu Jan 29 14:05:03 -0800 2009 4370431 11509 cagey 3 4370623 funny!!! Thu Jan 29 14:47:37 -0800 2009 4370455 11935 westsidegal 1 4370483 I'm embarassed to say that I recently recommended Tito's to someone looking for Tacos Dorados on a recent thread. In my defense, I hadn't been in years and I could swear I remembered liking them. Well, after driving by Tito's on my way over to Mariscos Chente for the 4th time in as many days I was struck by a strong nostalgic impulse to change plans and go to Tito's instead. I'm not one to knock an LA institution. I'm an unabashed fan of the Apple Pan, Phillipe's, Langer's, Clifton's, etc. I get the criticisms and I just don't care. Tito's I can't personally support. I'll just sum up my honest assessment of each component of the famed tacos: 1. The beef was dry and dried out. I found it to taste of salt and . . . well, that's it actually. No beef flavor at all that I could discern. 2. The lettuce was fresh, crisp, iceberg. Well known to offer absolutely no flavor. But it performed it's intended job. 3. The cheese is mild, food-industry grade orange. The label might be stamped cheddar but really, I think we all know what we have here. Nothing special and nothing flavorful. 4. The shell. Alternately hard and dry or oily and soggy. Depended if meat was behind the shell or not. It was a fairly thick shell. 5. The salsa. Clearly made fresh from out of season tomatoes. Perhaps at another time of year the salsa uses higher quality tomato (similar seasonal variations can be found at El Parian). It had very little heat and no noticable chunks of chilli. It was salted seasoned properly and had a welcome acidity from vinegar (clearly white and not cider). For me, it was brutally disgusting and I insantly regretted the detour and the recent post. Now, if you are nostalgic for that brand of re-interpreted Mexican, I heartily recommend Sky's Tacos on Olympic, near Hauser. It's a sould food restaurant with a Mexican menu if that makes sense. Ground beef, lettuce, orange cheese tacos that are actually good. The "carnitas" aren't carnitas at all but WOW, whetever it is it was delicious. Not really Mexican food, but then again neither is Tito's. Thu Jan 29 14:13:43 -0800 2009 4369783 101728 Frommtron 2 4370681 oh, sky's is really good a soul food-run version of mexican food. even their veggie tacos with pseudo-meat is delicious. and don't even get me started on the OPEN FACED SHRIMP BURRITOS, these are excellent and the tangy sauce is beyond compare. Thu Jan 29 15:04:51 -0800 2009 4370483 10866 kevin 3 4370941 Glad to hear from another fan. The place is just great. On paper it's all wrong but somehow they hit a home run for me every time. I have not tried the open faced shrimp burrito, (Again, doesn't sound at all right when you write it out) but I'll give them a go next. Thanks for the rec. Thu Jan 29 16:23:30 -0800 2009 4370681 101728 Frommtron 2 4370982 Just so no one gets lost, Sky's is on Pico, not Olympic. Thu Jan 29 16:42:01 -0800 2009 4370483 86955 rupertmonkey 3 4371037 Oops. Thu Jan 29 16:57:59 -0800 2009 4370982 101728 Frommtron 4 4371289 yes, it's on pico, nice joint. be sure to set aside plenty of time too, it's not exactly "fast food." also, in the area is la pain for chocoate croissants. Thu Jan 29 18:51:29 -0800 2009 4371037 10866 kevin 5 4371344 Yeah, I noticed that, too. Worth the wait and they are very friendly. Thu Jan 29 19:06:28 -0800 2009 4371289 101728 Frommtron 5 4372853 It's "La Maison du Pain".... their cinnamon buns are wonderous. http://www.lamaisondupain.net/ Mr Taster Fri Jan 30 09:45:29 -0800 2009 4371289 17579 Mr Taster 2 4386708 It's not the same great quality and taste that made them famous. They have cheapened their product and not the fussy preperation of decades ago. It changed in the late 1970's, but as long as their is a line ,, it'll stay changed. Wed Feb 04 09:15:02 -0800 2009 4370483 263209 Lee Vining 1 4370491 Delusion? Thu Jan 29 14:16:39 -0800 2009 4369783 26510 gadflier 1 4370596 *edited/deleted by moi. mea culpa. Thu Jan 29 14:40:47 -0800 2009 4369783 13171 silence9 2 4370629 I'm new on Chowhound. I don't work for Tito's, just a fan. I love the salsa and have never had a bad meal there. Thu Jan 29 14:48:57 -0800 2009 4370596 260760 magic man 3 4370649 Fair enough. Sorry. I will edit/delete my snarky first response. Enjoy Chowhound, and keep posting... Thu Jan 29 14:56:50 -0800 2009 4370629 13171 silence9 3 4370659 All snarkiness aside, I really do urge you to look for tacos on the board -- there are some really great trucks as well as shops -- Tacos Por Favor in Santa Monica is a board favourite. Thu Jan 29 14:58:54 -0800 2009 4370629 10811 Das Ubergeek 4 4370665 Yes, exactly. Let this trouncing of Tito's be magic man's first step into the larger taco world of Los Angeles. Before you know it he'll be eating buches in Boyle Heights. Mr Taster Thu Jan 29 15:00:40 -0800 2009 4370659 17579 Mr Taster 3 4370996 welcome, grasshopper. we will guide you. . . . . Thu Jan 29 16:45:21 -0800 2009 4370629 11935 westsidegal 1 4370765 I'm still cracking up over Kevin's mention of an "open-face burrito." There's a Mexican sandwich place near me (Don Adrian's Cemitas Poblanas) with a menu listing of "leg of cattle." Maybe I'm just not cut out for this whole CH thing -- I don't get it. -cb- Thu Jan 29 15:31:12 -0800 2009 4370669 113190 CucumberBoy 2 4371301 doesn't state on the menu as such but's it's OPEN FACED. closed faced, open faced, it would still be all delicious. Thu Jan 29 18:53:04 -0800 2009 4370765 10866 kevin 2 4371649 I don't consider Don Adrian's a long distance chow destination place but you should try that sandwich since its near... pickled feet are actually not that scary and its one of the better things that they have there. At worst you would be out a few bucks. Thu Jan 29 21:31:23 -0800 2009 4370765 206289 theonceler 1 4370919 A better question might be, " What COULD make Tito's so good?" Thu Jan 29 16:16:59 -0800 2009 4369783 66416 orythedog 2 4370940 What COULD make Tito's so good? Absolutely NOTHING! If they changed their tacos, it wouldn't be Tito's anymore that so many of us (regardless of how questionable our tastes may be) have come to know and love over the years. I don't get out that way too much and the last time I ate there was last summer but Tito's was still Tito's.. for what that's worth. To me that is meant in a positive way. The only bad thing I can say about them is they have such stupid music on their website. At least the old Quizno commercials have crazy music but they're funny. Tito's is annoying. Thu Jan 29 16:22:58 -0800 2009 4370919 10764 monkuboy 1 4371073 in regards to what makes tito's so good it's the same thing as pink's... NOTHING. biggest riddle in LA for me. Thu Jan 29 17:06:47 -0800 2009 4369783 254320 dfoldes 2 4371502 The best taco in Los Angeles? "It was just my imagination....running away from me..." I mean really...it's straight from Hyperion. Thu Jan 29 20:14:46 -0800 2009 4371073 20399 broncosaurus 2 4372882 While I agree with both sentiments I do love one thing about Tito's--its mix of clientele. It shows the best of LA to see white, black, brown, well off and not, young, old, all standing together talking, laughing and enjoying themselves. Fri Jan 30 09:51:02 -0800 2009 4371073 168597 The Old Man 3 4372903 Good description of what I enjoy about Pann's and Dino's Burgers too. Fri Jan 30 09:57:11 -0800 2009 4372882 108169 Servorg 3 4374783 Yeah, sorta like the tv vids of the LA riots back in the early 90s ;) Actually I agree with the sentiment, one of many reasons why I love my hometown. Fri Jan 30 21:51:13 -0800 2009 4372882 20399 broncosaurus 1 4371818 I actually met the daughter of the family; she runs Tito's Tacos. Nice young businesswoman. I didn't have the nerve to tell her what I really thought of the food... but we chatted for a while about how her family created an institution. She was interested in expanding it, I think, but worried about replicating the quality. In truth, the place is so systematic and the ingredients lacking in complexity. It is entirely built around its own mystique. The food is soupy and cheap, the lines long, and the wait unbearable. And their food costs are rock bottom. But people can't stop eating there... Thu Jan 29 23:32:49 -0800 2009 4369783 261750 torimo 2 4371823 When you say good businesswoman she must be, don't laugh but the business model is better than most. Talked to someone who worked there and they were looking to hire people. They were offering like $10/hour a 40 hour work week with overtime and even health benefits. Thu Jan 29 23:40:31 -0800 2009 4371818 11914 monku 3 4371831 Interesting! I guess that doesn't surprise me. She told me the place generated a tremendous amount of cash. Her biggest issue has been what to do to reinvest the profits. She gets hit up continuously by people who want to "invest" in the concept -- to own a piece of the success, but raising capital is the last problem they have -- and keeping the money/control in the family is the smartest decision. If I'm not impressed by the food, I'm still definitely impressed (envious perhaps?) by the soundness of the business model. Thu Jan 29 23:46:37 -0800 2009 4371823 261750 torimo 4 4372662 this joint and the apple pan are two of the greatest business models in la. i think the apple pan is an even better model. there's an inherent inelastic demand, they keep on increasing the prices, about every 1.5 mos, and bingo presto, people still visit en masse. you gotta luv em. Fri Jan 30 08:54:18 -0800 2009 4371831 10866 kevin 5 4373104 Kevin wrote: >>but it's OPEN FACED<< I’m not disputing you, Kevin, I just thought it was funny to consider the concept of an open-faced burrito. If it were, indeed, open-faced, wouldn’t it be more like a quesadilla? Or a tostada (on an un-fried tortilla)? I think if a burrito is served open-faced, well, it’s not a burrito anymore. Semantics, I guess; as long as there’s rice, beans, and cheese, I’ll eat anything, open-faced or not. That includes Paris Hilton. theonceler wrote: >>don't consider Don Adrian's a long distance chow destination place but you should try that sandwich<< I eat there all the time; the fish and jabon sandwiches are, indeed, awesome, especially with extra peppers. Perhaps I’ll try the pigs feet at some point. But I’m wary of their menu item entitled “leg of cattle.” “Leg” being singular, “cattle” being plural, I’ve got to wonder: what exactly is “leg of cattle”? -cb- Fri Jan 30 10:49:30 -0800 2009 4372662 113190 CucumberBoy 6 4373619 "fish and jabon sandwiches" -- I'm sorry, I know you meant "jamón", and that sounds tasty, but this made me laugh so hard -- "jabón" is Spanish for "soap". Fri Jan 30 13:09:10 -0800 2009 4373104 10811 Das Ubergeek 1 4373618 This Valley Girl doesn't get over the hill as often as I used to........yay for jobs close to home...... so it is with much sadness that I read all the critical posts about Tito's. Many moons ago this was definitely THE place for good, unpretentious mexican. My goodness was there anything better than that little styrofoam container filled with that delicate, tender, saucy beef................ Fri Jan 30 13:09:04 -0800 2009 4369783 32563 Chow Bella 2 4373942 See my post above re: nostalgia. Mr Taster Fri Jan 30 14:32:01 -0800 2009 4373618 17579 Mr Taster 1 4373739 I guess if you grew up in West LA and do not venture east of the 405 very much you might consider it "the best tacos on Los Angeles," fortunately I do not have that problem Fri Jan 30 13:33:18 -0800 2009 4369783 14558 Ernie 2 4373873 Tito's is not best of anything, and surely not best of Mexican food. For starter's, it's not Mexican. And, if what you are looking for is Americanized takes on "Mexican" food (read: gloppy food with melted cheese on top and rather generic salsa), there are much much better options. I have no problem with Americanized "Mexican" food; some of it can be tasty. I do find it a bit disturbing that it leads people to believe that they are eating actual Mexican food, but oh well. Fri Jan 30 14:14:16 -0800 2009 4373739 16980 D Hound 2 4380741 tito's is technically east of the 405....maybe 50-100yards east.... Mon Feb 02 11:59:15 -0800 2009 4373739 10704 wilafur 3 4381980 Not even that much.. more like 50 feet. Mon Feb 02 18:08:13 -0800 2009 4380741 10764 monkuboy 1 4373881 What makes Tito's so appealing is that it is so entrenched in Americana. As an old established LA eatery, it developed its recipes a long time ago for a population of Americans seeing out a new flavor as well as local Mexican Americans seeking out something familiar with a twist. That's historically how cuisines fuse and become something new. Tito's is just that. It isn't Mexican food. It's American food. And it appeals to many segments of LA's population. Even with me. There are many versions of Tito's-like inventions throughout the country as immigrants bring parts of their native cuisines to the mainstream. A Tito's taco is akin to an east coast Chinese eggroll that seems to get some attention on these boards. As insipid as these are, they inspire nostalgia, just as a Tito's ground beef taco does for someone who enjoyed these at a young age. Tito's doesn't pretend to be anything other than what it is: LA style Mexican American food. From the looks of it, Tito's style food is what inspired chains like Taco Bell, Del Taco and the rest of those Mexican-like chains. It belongs on the same shelf with the likes of the Mission burrito, Chicago pizza, Philly cheesesteaks, Cincinnati chili, NY Chinese food, just to name others. Fri Jan 30 14:15:45 -0800 2009 4369783 10509 E Eto 2 4373973 There are plenty of bland eggrolls in the New York City metro area, but when you find a place that does it right, they are anything but insipid. This is not nostalgia speaking. This is from a very recent visit to NYC, where 70% of my eggroll experiences were generic to awful, but one simply knocked my socks off (If you're curious, it came from an anonymous Chinese/soul food shop with bulletproof glass windows in the Carribbean district of Flatbush Ave, right next to a video shop specializing in blaxploitation flicks... on the corner on the west side of Flatbush)... and throught the miracle of google maps street view, I think this is the place: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=flatbush+ave+brooklyn+new+york,+ny&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.111473,56.953125&ie=UTF8&ll=40.634408,-73.949618&spn=0,359.972191&z=15&iwloc=addr&layer=c&cbll=40.634337,-73.949723&panoid=btliMlo_eH3RtHeFnjbn0A&cbp=12,335.53097459489595,,0,18.267928749500562 (I don't see the chinese restaurant, but the "Kung Fu Video" awning is a dead giveaway...!) My limited experience with them (twice, I believe) seems to jive with virtually every other non native Angeleno. Granted, there's only one Tito's Tacos, and they're the very epitome of insipid. Bland, bland, bland. However, I am willing to give them another shot per my response to theonceler's above post, which definitely piqued my curiosity..... Mr Taster Fri Jan 30 14:42:57 -0800 2009 4373881 17579 Mr Taster 1 4374811 30+ years ago when I moved to LA from NY my east coast friend took me to TT's one day and had the beef burrito. It had big chunks of meaty and what I thought was the Mexican flavor. For a while that was the standard I compared all others to. One day he took me to Mago's where I discovered their fried chicken burrito...who knew Japanese American's could make great Mexican food. Later I discovered there was better than TT's and Mago's, but still I get a craving for TT's and unfortunately Mago's is no longer. Fri Jan 30 22:20:12 -0800 2009 4369783 11914 monku 2 4374836 Mmm - Magos! And they used to be open all night, too! The big plus was that Magos, Titos and Johnny's Pastrami were all so close to each other (I'd add Bruno's to that list as well, what used to be at Venice and Centinela). Fri Jan 30 22:43:19 -0800 2009 4374811 10764 monkuboy 3 4374844 Yeah, you could make a pretty good rotation in those days. Fri Jan 30 22:50:28 -0800 2009 4374836 11914 monku 1 4376786 Mmmm, yes I remember MAGO's, a cha siu buritto w/ avocado was very tasty, as well as the cha siu tacos. Very sweet and sumptious. Sat Jan 31 21:16:12 -0800 2009 4369783 259523 CCDiner 2 4378267 what's cha siu? also, is there anywhere that serves up the kind of food doled out by Mago's, if i'm correct it was located on centinela near washington, right???? Sun Feb 01 14:11:21 -0800 2009 4376786 10866 kevin 3 4379115 Chinese barbecued pork. Sun Feb 01 21:16:59 -0800 2009 4378267 10811 Das Ubergeek 1 4376857 I think the reason for Tito's appeal is that it's on the Westside. You know, because Westsiders don't ever venture east of the 405/LaCienega/La Brea/etc, so for them this is the best Mexican food ever. Sat Jan 31 21:57:16 -0800 2009 4369783 10905 Normal Garciaparra 2 4376915 Yeah, over on the east side we have Pepe's. ; ) lol.. Sat Jan 31 22:44:29 -0800 2009 4376857 10764 monkuboy 3 4376933 And on the mid-side, we have El Cholo. Sat Jan 31 22:59:21 -0800 2009 4376915 10509 E Eto 4 4378269 that gave me a nice belly laugh. Sun Feb 01 14:11:48 -0800 2009 4376933 10866 kevin 2 4378379 i see this attitude and short sighted inaccuracy pop up on here a bit too often and having lived both on the east side and west side it's pretty frustrating to see. i actually find it works the other way and that on average it's the people living on the east side that don't venture west - and it's not because there's a lack of good food... let's be honest there's no chichen itza, langer's, pie n' burger, yuca's, phillips bbq or for that matter providence, sona or whatever but there are a ton of very good restaurants - tacos por favor and lare's, tamra's tamales for example have considerably better food than tito's. in general i see this kid of thinking on here quite a bit and it usually surfaces in the generic recommendations people make when suggesting west side restaurants, but when someone lays it out like you did i feel it deserves to called. i also would like to see people digging a bit deeper, there is good food on the west side and it's a shame it's kind of being overlooked. Sun Feb 01 14:54:35 -0800 2009 4376857 254320 dfoldes 3 4378691 Thanks for your response. His was such a condescending and misinformed post. Sun Feb 01 17:31:09 -0800 2009 4378379 168597 The Old Man 4 4395272 Exhibit A for the defense: From ElJeffe's current "Best Pizza (NY Style) in LA." thread: "As I head East of the 405 about twice a year at best, I'm enforcing the strict "LA" qualification..." As a former Westsider - I would say this qualifies as offensive WS chauvinism. That someone could consider that L.A. only exists west of the 405 is just plain stupid. The point is that we Eastsiders realize there IS good and excellent food on the Westside - but we're more than happy (and yes, perhaps smug sometimes) with our choices here. It seems many of our Westside counterparts tend to think there's nothing beyond La Cienega... Fri Feb 06 22:38:36 -0800 2009 4378691 11135 Briggs 3 4393793 yes, but no there are a ton of places from the west side being talked about on chow, and the attitude you are referring to comes up with places on the east side as well it's a matter of opinion, some of us are very passionate about certain foods, and when we have something that is not up to par or even close, we are going to say it, as an opinion, not necessarily fact, obviously Fri Feb 06 12:15:19 -0800 2009 4378379 162053 fgrade 4 4394549 I think the objection (and I share the same feeling) is that the moment you smear an entire quadrant of LA as being "taste deficient" in one ethnic food area or another you have failed the "taste" and "smell" test as surely as if you had said that "100%" of master sake brewers in Japan are Japanese. Fri Feb 06 16:13:00 -0800 2009 4393793 108169 Servorg 5 4401654 that's not what i said at all if you're going to refer to tito's as a quadrant, then not only have you misinterpreted what i said, you have grossly twisted it, there are good places and bad places to eat on the east side just like the west side, for me, tito's is a bad one on the west side it doesn't matter who it is that is producing the plates in the kitchen, what matters here is the end result Mon Feb 09 13:51:12 -0800 2009 4394549 162053 fgrade 6 4401740 After you replied to dfoldes post (which rightly took exception to Normal Garciappara's remarks about westsiders having questionable taste in Mexican food being the reason for the positive posts about Tito's) I then replied. In that reply I was offering my opinion as to the fallacy of the argument in Normal Garciappara's post above: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/591914#4376857 I didn't say you in the "you" fgrade sense, but rather in the "you" in the "those who believe what Normal Garciappara said" sense. Mon Feb 09 14:11:54 -0800 2009 4401654 108169 Servorg 3 4394595 My biggest issue with eating on the westside is that, on the whole, things tend to be a lot more expensive. There are exceptions, but if your criteria is (like mine) finding sheer density of inexpensive deliciousness you get a much better bang for your buck by going east rather than west. For me (and I suspect for many others) it's an issue of economics. By and large, there is a great deal more wealth concentrated on the westside, and a great deal more restaurants that cater to people who can afford a higher dinner bill. It's not so easy for people with less income to afford those expensive westside meals, but the opposite is not necessarily true. Yet for some reason you don't find Boyle Heights taquerias flooded with Priuses and Beemers with "Santa Monica Toyota" license plate frames. Why is that? Servorg, I await your response and condemnation! Mr Taster Fri Feb 06 16:35:14 -0800 2009 4378379 17579 Mr Taster 4 4394615 You're right you obviously don't, but does Mar Vista in your eyes and Palms count as the Westside in your opinion. If so there are lots of cheaper eats there, but also good food too, as in the much aforementioned Mariscos Chente, et al. Fri Feb 06 16:43:11 -0800 2009 4394595 10866 kevin 4 4394617 Mariscos Chente Fri Feb 06 16:43:39 -0800 2009 4394595 108169 Servorg 4 4394786 If you mine further into your observations, you'll find the answer. >>By and large, there is a great deal more wealth concentrated on the westside...<< This concentration of wealth is due to the Real Estate's Rules #1, 2, and 3. Location, location, and location. Like so many things in economics, demand usually plays the key role in price. I've lived here most of my life from when Marina del Rey was a swamp and people laughed at the thought of buying homes in dumps like Venice, Santa Monica, as well as out in the sticks of Palisades and Malibu. But the fresh air, the cool breezes and the lower population density (but getting worse by the day) cannot be replicated. These areas became very popular starting in the late 70s-80s as so many people from the Midwest, back East, and around the world started to migrate to LA. Places from Midtown (I was born and raised there) and so many areas that are demarcated east of the corridors like the 405, La Brea, La Cienega, etc., have sub-par to horrid air quality, worse traffic and population density issues, and other "incurable defects" and population-related issues. These are the main reasons why land is so expensive in the Westside - and this translates into relatively higher overhead costs than say places like Boyle Heights. >>Yet for some reason you don't find Boyle Heights taquerias flooded with Priuses and Beemers with "Santa Monica Toyota" license plate frames...<< And while your observation here is true, this can be said about any area-specific population relative to any area. Have you seen the number of non-Westside residents flooding the Westside on weekends, particularly in the summer and particularly to the parks and beaches? I can guarantee that for every Prius or Beemer with a "Santa Monica Toyota" license plate frame that you count in Boyle Heights, you will count hundreds if not thousands of cars with old "Downtown Felix Chevrolet" license plate frames or from any other area parked in the streets and parking structures throughout the Westside, because sitting in a tiny cramped sweltering apartment in a part of town where the viscous air pollutes your lungs. It's all a matter of what resources are important to each individual and where one must go to seek out those resources. Why people are so eager to variously deride the Westside on this board is a puzzle to me. It seems that to many, if it ain't Langers, Phillipes' (which I personally detest but that a whole other story), or some other "institution," than the area is labeled a wasteland. We have no York Blvd, but we have our share of very respectable Mexican eateries - yes, on the Westside. Tacos Por Favor, Taqueria Sanchez, Tacomiendo, Gallgegos Mexican Deli, Monte Alban, Mariscos Chente, La Oaxaquena and Cemitas Poblanas trucks are good enough for my local rotation. If I happen to be within striking distance of some ethnic-dense eateries, than I'll go for it - I feel if I don't, it's a lost opportunity. Maybe I'm a Chowhound-lite in this sense, but I that's me. If I'm making a trip specifically for food, it's SGV - the king of ethnic-dense eateries. I can literally make a day of it and as far as it is from the Westside, as thick as traffic can be, and as bad as the air can hit my lungs on a hot inversion-layered day, it is only a day - half a day usually - and I feel fulfilled in my total but brief immersion. I love and respect this and other food-rich areas. While I still choose to live in the Westside, I don't feel a need to slam areas outside of here - just a native Angeleno stating the facts... Fri Feb 06 17:41:52 -0800 2009 4394595 64003 bulavinaka 2 4384941 yeah, as authentic mexican as burritos and nachos get Tue Feb 03 15:49:46 -0800 2009 4376857 162053 fgrade 2 4388256 Agreed, Normal. If they want "real tacos" they should head to My Taco on York Blvd. in Highland Park. Also in Highland park is El Arco Iris, also on york. Shoot, there are even a bunch of really quality taco trucks that call HP home. On the Westside, I agree that Tacos Por Favor is the spot. Really solid food with fresh ingredients. Who could ask for more? Wed Feb 04 16:26:10 -0800 2009 4376857 259583 ohdaylay 1 4377460 For me, the draws are the communal feel of the place, the chili con carne used in the burritos and consistency (food's been the same since the 30+ years I can remember). Everyone knows it's Mexican-ISH food, so don't expect anything more. If you want something closer to a real taco, go nearby to Don Felix, Taqueria Sanchez, etc Tip: To add some kick to the mild salsa, ask for a side of chopped jalapenos. Sun Feb 01 08:21:37 -0800 2009 4369783 104996 pharmnerd 2 4377480 To add, saw a Tito's commercial on TV recently in the wee hours (may 2-3am). Cracked-up as it was expectedly cheesy & low-budget. Sun Feb 01 08:29:40 -0800 2009 4377460 104996 pharmnerd 3 4378766 What is even cheesier and low budget is going to the Tito's website. As soon as the page loads, that horrible song comes blaring through the speakers at max volume!! Makes it kind of embarrassing if you're visiting the site while at work. : ) Sun Feb 01 18:10:56 -0800 2009 4377480 10764 monkuboy 4 4382690 Internal consistency is definitely their long suit -- in more ways than one! I kinda like that I can enjoy the cheesiness in some way that won't kill me. I sure can't stomach their "food"! Tue Feb 03 00:24:55 -0800 2009 4378766 67879 aliris 1 4378602 I don't care.. I agree and I just love F^$#ing TITOS. Whenever I get that craving for a fried taco w/ yellow cheese, I find myself in line. I starve myself all day and order 4 tacos w/ cheese, 1 beef, bean and cheese burrito w/ a side of guacawater(yum) red and green salsa. I bring home the chips to make migas for either breakfast, lunch or dinner depending on my schedule that next day. Sun Feb 01 16:45:10 -0800 2009 4369783 186725 Chez Coop 1 4378654 I would have to say the consistency ,plus it is relatively cheap as well . There is something to be said for consistency and speed , look at the success of McDonald's . They deliver a product cheap and quick , that's what keeps people coming back. Sun Feb 01 17:17:21 -0800 2009 4369783 60649 bophisto 1 4378661 Apple pan is the same, but I think there is more nostalgia there. It would be amazing to find out how much Tito's and Apple Pan gross and net in a year. They are definitely cash cows. Sun Feb 01 17:21:25 -0800 2009 4369783 60649 bophisto 2 4378968 Gargantuation cash cows. they are the 800 pound gorillas of cash cows. Sun Feb 01 20:06:12 -0800 2009 4378661 10866 kevin 1 4381566 Jack in the Box has better tacos. Mon Feb 02 15:44:17 -0800 2009 4369783 154486 WSB 2 4391312 couldn't agree more and I live blocks away from Tito's. The worst tacos in all of L.A. Thu Feb 05 15:24:19 -0800 2009 4381566 58436 fkingford 1 4384933 i guess this is proof that everyone has different tastes in food i've only been to tito's once, and i am glad to say that i'm keeping it that way, even my friend who doesn't discriminate much when it comes to food was not happy with what was given to us i exchange for our money it just wasn't impressive, my old high school served better tasting hard shell tacos Tue Feb 03 15:47:31 -0800 2009 4369783 162053 fgrade 2 4385674 HOT DAMN, that Tito's be good! Tue Feb 03 20:31:04 -0800 2009 4384933 12141 Adsvino 3 4393756 nah. Fri Feb 06 12:05:42 -0800 2009 4385674 162053 fgrade 1 4388095 i went there once b/c some classmates (all of them mexican america) recommended tito's for their tacos. i won't be going back. not because i don't like americanized mexican food, just b/c tito's isn't a very good rendition of it. i used to eat crunchy tacos growing up. shredded beef, lettuce, yellow cheese, hot sauce. i still really like them...just not the ones at tito's. so, to try and steer this conversation toward something helpful: to everyone who doesn't like the crunchy tacos at titos, what places (in LA) do a good crunchy taco? my favorite places are 60 miles east (riverside) and 360 miles east (phoenix) so something a little closer would be awesome. Wed Feb 04 15:28:54 -0800 2009 4369783 241795 ceviche 2 4388319 arturo's home of the puffy paco in whittier is pretty awesome, great salsa, picadillo, or shredded beef, orange shredded cheese, in a fried taco shell or puffy style, similar to indian fry bread. like tito's only much better. and also it's Tex-mex cuisine if i ain't mistaken. Wed Feb 04 16:45:41 -0800 2009 4388095 10866 kevin 2 4388807 The crispy tacos (tacos dorados) at My Taco in Highland Park are my favorite. On the westside, the crispy tacos at Tacos Por Favor have been highly recommended - haven't tried them myself, because at TPF I opt for chorizo and cheese soft tacos instead. Wed Feb 04 20:02:51 -0800 2009 4388095 174303 Vaya Con Carne 2 4388838 Sabor a Mexico *used* to have an excellent version on the westside. I don't know if they're still on the menu since they've moved. Wed Feb 04 20:12:24 -0800 2009 4388095 101728 Frommtron 3 4395240 I finally went to Titos to see what was up. Tried the tacos and it was not good. I will not be back. Fri Feb 06 22:12:41 -0800 2009 4388838 122639 waxfondler 4 4395269 DON"T do the tacos. They are OK, but instead get a bean and cheese burrito, and be sure to buy enough both red and green salsa (well, the green is basically diced jalapenos). Comfort food. The beef that's not ground beef is mystery, stay away. Been going 35 years. Oh, and the trick is to go to the inside window to order -faster almost always. Fri Feb 06 22:37:27 -0800 2009 4395240 74276 swimfin 4 4395278 nothing there is any better than the tacos. there is no need to go back Fri Feb 06 22:42:23 -0800 2009 4395240 11935 westsidegal 4 4395928 No. Never. Don't ever go back. Like I said, I'll never fault anyone for loving an LA institution. However, in my opinion the food is execrable. Sat Feb 07 09:46:26 -0800 2009 4395240 101728 Frommtron 5 4413936 We've removed a large number of posts from this sub-thread -- including, unfortunately, some relatively friendly comments that didn't make sense without the context they were in. If you want to comment on Tito's food -- whether it's good or bad, or what it aspires to be or doesn't -- that's fine. But the personal comments about other posters tastes, level of knowledge, etc, are unfriendly and unnecessary. More general discussion about personal tastes vs. dining habits and nostalgia foods that is not specific to Tito's might be better suited to the General Topics board. Fri Feb 13 08:18:24 -0800 2009 4395928 2 The Chowhound Team 6 4414125 Okay. New discussion (including some of the deleted posts) here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/595899 Fri Feb 13 09:05:19 -0800 2009 4413936 108169 Servorg 1 4412347 In response to the original post: Liking Tito's Tacos is simple recipe... One part nostalgia Zero parts taste buds One part cheap Ten parts cheddar cheese One part boiled and unseasoned brisket One part unmemorable salsa One part smoke I like smoked meats because the smoking process can usually make any meat taste good but the smoke actually refers to the herb that is smoked and causes the smoker to eat a lot of just about anything... Thu Feb 12 16:37:39 -0800 2009 4369783 16892 FKA Andrew 2 4412536 so i guess it's all about the cheddar cheese at Tito's. now i kind of want to try one for the sake of the experiment. www.moviefoodie.wordpress.com Thu Feb 12 17:52:12 -0800 2009 4412347 10866 kevin