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Bye Bye Ginza!

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maxrexsharky Jan 27, 2009 06:13 AM

If you're like me and like to eat late night, iyou found yourself eating at this Chinatown favorite. Now it seems that will be no more. Ginze will close it's doors sometime this coming weekend. the staff were unsure of exactly why when i asked. Anyone know what happenned to this boston favorite?

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  1. galleygirl RE: maxrexsharky Jan 27, 2009 06:37 AM

    omigod!

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      CambridgeFoodie RE: galleygirl Jan 27, 2009 07:09 AM

      i loved that place!

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        joebloe RE: CambridgeFoodie Jan 27, 2009 07:36 AM

        This was the best sushi place in Boston 15 years ago when there was always a long wait even in the middle of a blizzard. Ever since the three Japanese chefs left and the remodelling project and the huge price increases every year, you rarely see any patron there anymore. There used to be four chefs and at least four waitresses but I only saw two of each last week with two patrons. I'll miss it though I rarely go there anymore.

        They have the biggest best spider maki in the world! Anyone know where I can get it now?

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          SaraASR RE: joebloe Jan 27, 2009 09:49 AM

          I really like Suishaya in Chinatown.

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            cornFusion RE: joebloe Feb 11, 2009 11:26 AM

            One of those chefs is in a small unpretentious fish-house restaurant in, of all places, Mansfield, MA. I think its called the "Fresh Catch"... the restaurant is adjacent to the fishmomger's and he has a sushi bar in the restaurant.

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              ScubaSteve RE: cornFusion Feb 11, 2009 11:28 AM

              http://www.freshcatchinc.com/

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                joebloe RE: cornFusion Feb 12, 2009 12:36 AM

                That's not quite true. Tedlu left for New Jersey, Kenny left to open his place inside the Prudential, Isa left to go work for Kenny. The guy at the Fresh Catch in Mansfield is Chinese and did work at Ginza one time; the sushi there is alright nothing to brag about.

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                  swans RE: joebloe Feb 23, 2009 01:31 PM

                  What's the name of Kenny's place in the Prudential? Is it open yet?

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                    joebloe RE: swans Feb 23, 2009 09:24 PM

                    Yes it's been opened a couple years now. I don't know itsname but the place is painted totally BLACK and red.

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                      SaraASR RE: joebloe Feb 24, 2009 08:21 AM

                      osushi?

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                        Bob Dobalina RE: SaraASR Feb 24, 2009 10:29 AM

                        I always thought they missed out on a HUGE Boston-centric marketing coup by not including the apostrophe.

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                          galleygirl RE: Bob Dobalina Feb 24, 2009 03:42 PM

                          I think we may have to put you in the corner, Mr.Dobalina!

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                            barleywino RE: galleygirl Feb 24, 2009 04:26 PM

                            Seattle has an O'Asian restaurant-- but Seattle is more heavily Scandinavian than Irish so it didn't really pull in the crowds

        2. eLizard RE: maxrexsharky Jan 27, 2009 09:57 AM

          I wonder if the Beacon Street outpost is suffering a similar fate.

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            barleywino RE: eLizard Jan 27, 2009 03:50 PM

            i hope not, the Beacon st outpost used to be about the only place to get sanma sushi or sayori, or even Seiryo Kijoshu.

          2. ipsofatso RE: maxrexsharky Jan 27, 2009 03:35 PM

            Ugh a tragedy. I recall when it was New House of Toy prior to the refab into Ginza; same owner. Sushi is a bit pricey in this economy; you could go across the street to Best Little Restaurant and feed two 'hounds for $15 while at Ginza that's just a pair of Miso soups and a side of seaweed. I did enjoy it a few weeks ago but it was indeed empty on what should have been a busy night.

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              jpramas RE: maxrexsharky Jan 27, 2009 05:11 PM

              Well , the last time my wife and I tried to go there - maybe 3 or 4 months ago, and over a year after our previous visit - we showed up towards the end of lunch ... and the place ... smelled ... like ... vomit ...

              I mean the whole place ... which in general looked rather run down and shabby - down to the kimonos on the waitstaff. We gamely tried to tough it out for about 10 minutes - being the only people there - but as I surveyed various signs of decay around the restaurant, and tried to gulp back rising bile from the smell, I said "let's get out of here." And we did.

              Pity, it used to be pretty good.

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                digga RE: jpramas Jan 27, 2009 05:58 PM

                About (gulp) 10 years ago, I used to frequent Ginza after the clubs let out for the night (what a scene it was when all the Asian club kids would head over en masse). It was always best eaten at 3 am on any given Saturday. I have to agree with jpramas...Last time I was there, for the first time in the light of day a couple of years ago, it was definitely showing its age. And the sushi was rather forlorn. Not good.

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                  maxrexsharky RE: digga Jan 28, 2009 06:11 AM

                  i disagree that the food has not been good or too expensive. i'll give you run down but too expensive? i'd never consider cost any way when eating sushi. you get what you pay for. bj's whole club sells sushi too, REAL CHEAP! in short i don't think their heart is there and apparently there are also lease issues. it's too bad. same thing happenned to a place i use to go to a place called guyama on boylston street.

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                    hotoynoodle RE: maxrexsharky Jan 28, 2009 07:00 AM

                    i frequented ghuyama for many years. the owner was in arrears on his rent and basically high-tailed out of town.

                    as for the chinatown ginza, i think the quality has slid quite far downhill in recent years. last two times i went, i was very disappointed and haven't been in over 2 years. the brookline location also seemed better kept up and the food better.

                    lots of places will be shaken out in the coming months.

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                      Bob Dobalina RE: hotoynoodle Jan 28, 2009 07:22 AM

                      Agree completely with hotoynoodle - first went to Ginza Chinatown 9 years ago and it was fine - went back a couple of years ago and the bloom was definitely off the rose. Worst sign was very dried out rice in the rolls - never went back given the myriad other options. Brookline version also looking a little rag-tag but generally better.

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                        joebloe RE: Bob Dobalina Feb 11, 2009 10:34 AM

                        Ginza has never closed and won't close. The owner simply transfered the lease to four workers there. One of the waitresses is now a part owner and stand in the front greeting people. She said they'll be coming out with a menu with cheaper prices.

              2. hiddenboston RE: maxrexsharky Feb 9, 2009 06:58 AM

                So does anyone know for sure that Ginza has closed? I haven't heard for sure one way or another...

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                  avial RE: maxrexsharky Feb 9, 2009 09:34 AM

                  My understanding is that two of the sushi chefs from the Brookline Ginza have bought out/taking over the Chinatown Ginza, not sure if the switch has already happened though.

                  1. ScubaSteve RE: maxrexsharky Feb 9, 2009 01:05 PM

                    it was open yesterday.

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                      maxrexsharky RE: ScubaSteve Feb 11, 2009 11:16 AM

                      YES, it's open. noone would confirm how they pulled it off but it's under new management. Same chefs and servers.

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                        hotoynoodle RE: maxrexsharky Feb 11, 2009 06:56 PM

                        same chefs -- so doesn't sound like the food will be improved. not worth trying again, unless i hear differently.

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                          joebloe RE: hotoynoodle Feb 12, 2009 12:27 AM

                          The back kitchen cook is the same guy who's been there some 20 years. The sushi chefs are transplants from the Brookline branch while the Boston chefs are now tranferred to Brookline. I agree the food will need to be improved but I doubt it because my favorite spider roll is noticeably smaller and a hefty $13 bucks. The owner said a new menu is coming out with lower prices but I doubt it.

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                            hotoynoodle RE: joebloe Feb 18, 2009 08:47 PM

                            the softshell crabs used for spider maki are frozen and seasonality is of no matter. while i appreciate a good hand with the fryer, i don't necessarily measure my sushi experience that way. if i get old hamachi or uni i'm not wasting my money on going back.

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                              joebloe RE: hotoynoodle Feb 23, 2009 09:27 PM

                              I only go there for the spider roll maybe three times a year. I get all my sushi from Oishii now.

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                              joebloe RE: joebloe Mar 9, 2009 12:35 PM

                              I am happy to see Privus serving the same menu as Ginza with slight variations but 20% cheaper. Privus also serves bon chon chicken which 've eaten 3 wks in a row.

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                        postemotional1 RE: maxrexsharky Feb 16, 2009 09:26 PM

                        What happened to Ginza is that its customer base has aged out of going to Chinatown.

                        Generation X is now 35 at least and is devoted to their second marriages and children.

                        In all likelihood they are patronizing the Brookline Ginza.

                        Every generation wants its own restaurants!

                        1. kobuta RE: maxrexsharky Feb 25, 2009 06:27 AM

                          I'd be curious about their new menu. I haven't been back at Ginza for ages, only because we've found other, more exciting Japanese restaurants we've wanted to frequent. I actually love the accessibility of Ginza; I just think their same old menu got very tired.

                          If they would only refresh and renew the menu every so often, I think it would help. With that being said, I used to love their tempura and for being one of the few who offered ochazuke, and actually did it well. Wasn't always as enamored with their sushi - hit or miss with me.

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