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  <id>591129</id>
  <title>Gordon Ramsay's The F Word redux</title>
  <published_at>Mon Jan 26 22:01:25 -0800 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>7</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>33</id>
    <name>Food Media and News</name>
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        <id>4360903</id>
        <content>I believe these are old shows showing on BBC America now, but I didn't see them before, so I thought I'd comment.  I think these are brilliant - Ramsay's best work.  They're entertaining and chock full of information in every 60 minute episode.  No ranting, yelling, calling people names.  No spluttering idiot chef or owner to break down and convince that they're the problem - that's a formula that got old real quick.

In the one I just saw, he took some lambs he had raised (and he and his children were playing with) to the slaughterhouse and he and his wife watched while they were shocked, throats slitted, hung and processed - starting with the skinning and all the way to the "still warm" organs, including the brains.  What a wonderful way to show the process and to show us where our food comes from.  This ought to be shown in prime time in the US - our kids should understand this as well as those in the UK.  (Actually, our kids ought to get tours through the slaughterhouses.)

The same show had episodes on Chinese shrimp noodle soup, grilled duck breasts, baked alaska, and comparing champagnes.  I was thoroughly entertained and may have learned a thing or two along the way.</content>
        <published_at>Mon Jan 26 22:01:26 -0800 2009</published_at>
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          <name>applehome</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4361025</id>
      <content>I stumbled across these episodes before they started airing on BBCA.  I got them *ahem* online, and they are by far his best stuff.  I love them, and have made many of the dishes!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 00:06:20 -0800 2009</published_at>
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      <user>
        <id>260853</id>
        <name>mminasian</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4361396</id>
      <content>He's successfully created a food-based variety show (Diary of a Foodie being more of a "60 Minutes" format).  Given that we steal from the worst of the BBC, this is the one we should be stealing.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 06:47:13 -0800 2009</published_at>
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      <user>
        <id>202198</id>
        <name>ferret</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4361584</id>
      <content>Series 2 of the F Word just started this month on Food TV Canada.  He is raising pigs in this series.  I agree, that it's his best work.  Seems like the real guy, not a persona for Fox.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 07:50:46 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4360903</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>139219</id>
        <name>Sooeygun</name>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4361787</id>
      <content>"not a persona for Fox."

He's been doing the a-hole schtick on the BBC for years, well before FOX hired him.  f Word just happens to be a different kind of show.  He has a new "Cookalong" series where he prepares a 3-course meal in an hour that the viewers can follow - a weird variant on Rachel Ray.  He's pretty decent in that one too.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 08:47:49 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4361584</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>202198</id>
        <name>ferret</name>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4362049</id>
      <content>Ramsay has never done a show for the BBC. Most of his British shows (Boiling Point, Kitchen Nightmares, F-Word &amp; Cook-a-long) have been on Channel 4. I believe the only exception is the original UK version of Hell's Kitchen, which was on ITV.

Despite the name, BBC America (and BBC Canada as well) don't show exclusively shows from BBC UK, they source shows from other British broadcasters as well.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 09:55:21 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4361787</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20196</id>
        <name>gregclow</name>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>4362324</id>
      <content>I am familiar with his UK shows, but the a-hole schtick seems to be what Fox thinks works in North America.  I saw the UK Kitchen Nightmares before the US version and couldn't believe it was the same show. </content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 10:53:53 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4361787</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>139219</id>
        <name>Sooeygun</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4361670</id>
      <content>I too really like the show.

Very important to see an undersatnd the food chain. That there is much more beyong the suppermarket.

I agree it is good to see him show his solid understatnding of food as opposed to his charecture that his has created. Although some of that still comes through during the kitchen segmensts. But that seem more of what it might be like to really work for him.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 08:16:31 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4360903</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>23758</id>
        <name>Withnail42</name>
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