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maisonbistro Jan 26, 2009 04:56 PM

Yay, Gordon's back, Gordon's back...

And refreshingly this time around, all the contestants have food related experience that means something.

Gordon's back, Gordon's back....

  1. goodhealthgourmet Jan 26, 2009 05:25 PM

    excellent, thanks for the heads-up! it's really slim pickings on TV these days, and even Top Chef hasn't done much to fill the void.

    setting the DVR...

    1. LindaWhit Jan 26, 2009 05:36 PM

      VERY glad to hear they have food related experience - hopefully this season is better than the last - I ended up not watching most of last season as it just got boring to me. But Gordon's always good for a laugh or two with his "bollocks!" and various other comments. :-)

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        maisonbistro Jan 26, 2009 06:04 PM

        I LOVE Gordon's bollocks

        Sorry, I couldn't resist. And yes it will be nice to actually have some talent on the show.

      2. always_eating Jan 26, 2009 08:42 PM

        Yay - I can't wait! Hell's Kitchen is the only reality tv I watch, besides TAR. Gordon is a hoot. I think this could be a very good season.

        1. paris221966 Jan 26, 2009 08:51 PM

          WOOHOO!! This show is the best.

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            CucumberBoy Jan 28, 2009 09:08 AM

            Not to sweat on everyone's crepes here, but I can no longer stomach Hells Kitchen.

            Yes, I loved the first season -- really enjoyed it, watched it religiously. Ramsey's brutality towards the contestants was amusing at first.

            By the second season, I felt the show had turned into nothing more than a showcase for Ramsey's insult-hurling.

            Hearing contestants being called "fat pigs", "donkeys", and "stupid idiots" just got old, fast.

            But I still love Kitchen Nightmares! For some reason, I can handle Ramsey's insults when they're thrown at wanna-be "executive chefs" like Pinto on the last Kitchen Nightmare: "What in that tiny mind of yours justifies this?" "You wombat." "So, the only thing you don't freeze is the stuff that comes in frozen?"

            ROFLMAO.

            -cb-

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              LindaWhit Jan 28, 2009 11:27 AM

              This is why I stopped watching last season - nothing changes. And I've seen ads for this season's HK - and I'm afraid to say it doesn't look any different. Yes, perhaps the contestants have food-related experience, but it's the same old, same old from old Gordo - spitting food out, yelling about various things, and showing how the risotto someone had made wouldn't even FALL out of the pan it was made in when he tipped it over and shook the pan! It looked like day-old oatmeal!

              If this is the food-related experience, it doesn't bode well. I just checked out the bios on the Fox site - there's a 23yo Exec. Chef (although it doesn't say where) who's the "ladies man" this season. @@ And another Exec. Chef with 20 years of experience (and that guy's bio says cooking his way to EC allows him to be the pompous and arrogant person that he is - THAT ought to go over well with Chef Ramsay!).

              But then there's also a Food Court Chef and Quality Control Chef. Three were schooled at the C.I.A., one at Le Cordon Bleu of Las Vegas, and 1 at Johnson & Wales. I don't recognize the community colleges or other educational backgrounds that the others have.

              I'll give it a shot tomorrow. But I'm still thinking that, despite the "food experience", it might still be the same.

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                KTinNYC Jan 28, 2009 11:58 AM

                Hell's Kitchen is just plain bad. No one who has won that show has gone on to do anything in the culinary world as far as I know.

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                  LindaWhit Jan 30, 2009 07:16 AM

                  Well, I've seen no new thread, so I'll respond to myself on this one. It was a lot of the same, despite the deep voiceover saying "this is the best group of contestants we've ever had in Hell's Kitchen!"

                  We had the spit-outs. We had the solid risotto. We had under/overcooked scallops. We had someone "quit" and stomp off (that girl isn't going to make it far) and then come back, but still not know what she was supposed to do.

                  Seems a lot of them have never worked the line before.

                  Best line? GR calling one of the guys "Forrest" and his confessional in a Forrest voice.

                  But yet again - no real high hopes for this show.

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                    Ericandblueboy Jan 30, 2009 09:42 AM

                    This show isn't about food, it's about Gordon abusing the contestants for our entertainment, and I love it.

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                      LindaWhit Jan 30, 2009 09:45 AM

                      Very obviously. And the repetitive nature of each season is what makes it so boring to me.

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              shallots Jan 28, 2009 03:12 PM

              I went cold turkey and avoided the last season. I decided I could do without the screaming and insults.
              Darned if they didn't go and use a local chef this season, one who works at a major local steakhouse.
              So, now I'm tempted to watch for the local lass to make good. If she's treated badly (predictions, anyone?) (Isn't everyone treated badly?), I probably will quit watching and just catch summaries.

              Kitchen Nighmares is enough to make me cook at home.

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                brendastarlet Jan 30, 2009 09:15 AM

                I've never watched the show before. I couldn't stand the promos, and I think Gordon Ramsey is so overexposed that there was no need. But I tuned in last night. He's a bully. No question about it. However, Top Chef is so weak this year that it may be watch a show with a higher energy quotient.

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                  Firegoat Feb 1, 2009 08:17 AM

                  I read that one of the people who was rejected from Hell's Kitchen ended up on Top Chef.

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                    maisonbistro Feb 1, 2009 09:09 AM

                    I'm not surprised as there are thousands of people auditioning - some must make the rounds of the "reality" cooking shows.

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                      Leonardo Feb 1, 2009 09:45 AM

                      Of course. Those chosen for HK are for their "personality" and dramatic interest potential rather than their cooking skill or talent. Goal of the show is to make money, not to find a great chef. It's Fox, right?

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                  Leonardo Jan 30, 2009 07:25 AM

                  No "nannies" or "personal chefs"?

                  I love the "cooking instructor" who charges $300 for a 4-hour class. She was cooking with pasta dishes with dirty pans. When G insulted her signature dish, she informed him that she also teaches etiquette!

                  Right: "food-related" experience...sort of but not really!

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                    bermudagourmetgoddess Jan 30, 2009 07:36 AM

                    You mean the cooking instructor who is NOT EVEN A TRAINED CHEF!
                    Please!

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                      ChinoWayne Jan 30, 2009 09:23 AM

                      What was that crap on the plate that she tried to foist off as her "signature dish", it looked like a day old giant chimichanga, do they understand Mexican cuisine in Nebraska?

                      Oh, and anyone got a line on commercial real estate brokers in Nebraska, I think I will open a school for brain surgery and will need a place to do the fleecing and butchering.

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                      chowser Jan 30, 2009 11:26 AM

                      You don't need any background to teach a rec course, just put together a description and if they like it, you're in. She reminds me of a Sandra Lee wannabe.

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                      ktb615 Jan 30, 2009 07:31 AM

                      I don't know exactly how this qualifies as reality television. You might as well take a high school astronomy class and put them in charge of NASA and see what happens.

                      I hate when someone asks what I do for a living and upon telling them I cook their next question is inevitably, "Is it like Hell's Kitchen?"

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                        LindaWhit Jan 30, 2009 07:33 AM

                        That would DEFINITELY bug me, ktb!

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                          ChinoWayne Jan 30, 2009 09:17 AM

                          Fox made their bones with "The Simpsons", "Hell's Kitchen" is just another money making cartoon, so they are following the "formula" for all commercial TV, just leverage any format that draws eyes and ears so you can sell commercial time.

                          So don't take it seriously, and don't fret when ignorant consumers assume anything you do remotely resembles the scripted fiction that is depicted on "reality TV", just tell them to enjoy the entertainment, and if they are hungry afterward, maybe give them a pointer on where they can find a good meal.

                        2. sharonanne Jan 30, 2009 08:55 AM

                          So who thinks Lacey is "just another pretty girl who can't cook"?

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                            LindaWhit Jan 30, 2009 09:09 AM

                            ROFL! Yeah, that line was a winner.

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                              ChinoWayne Jan 30, 2009 09:20 AM

                              Yeah, that was a hoot when she said it, and then when she fell apart immediately, it was obvious, she is not a pretty girl, and she cannot cook, or even function when anyone would need to depend on her. Oh, and she really is just tip top when it comes to team building.

                              She will die an early death in Hell's Kitchen.

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                                toncasmo Jan 30, 2009 09:21 AM

                                right then i didn't like her :)
                                and where does she work? at first i thought it was something like sizzler or something!

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                                  LindaWhit Jan 30, 2009 09:31 AM

                                  Lacey's the corporate buffet cook. http://www.fox.com/hellskitchen/bios/...

                                  The notes on her bio says: "Notes:
                                  Lacey was going to a university for graphic design and did not feel motivated at all. One day, her mother screamed at her, "Stop watching the Food Network and go to culinary school already!" She took her mother's advice and has never looked back! Lacey is quirky, loveable, loud and a self-proclaimed great cook. We'll see if Chef Ramsay agrees! "

                                  That "did not feel motivated at all" seems to still be prevalent in her current career.

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                                    toncasmo Jan 30, 2009 09:36 AM

                                    i saw that but not sure what sodexho is
                                    sure doesn't look/act like the people who work at the dean and deluca where i go!

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                                      LindaWhit Jan 30, 2009 09:40 AM

                                      http://www.sodexousa.com/

                                      "Sodexo, Inc. is the leading provider of integrated food and facilities management services in the U.S., Canada, and Mexico, serving 10 million customers in 6,000 locations every day. "

                                      The people version of Sysco Foods.

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                                        dave_c Jan 30, 2009 03:22 PM

                                        I'd also like to add that many large corporations with company cafeterias (and sporting venues) contract out the food service work to these companies.

                                        No matter what it is... it's just cafeteria food made to feed the corporate masses.

                                        All Lacey needs is a hairnet and she'll fit right in as a lunch lady. She's too young for the hairy mole and the poorly dyed 'stache but given time she'll be scaring (and scarring) children for years.

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                                        jcattles Jan 31, 2009 08:00 AM

                                        Sodexho is the company that assembles & serves school lunch food. Nuf' said!

                                  2. re: ChinoWayne
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                                    Ericandblueboy Jan 30, 2009 09:46 AM

                                    I agree with you wholehearted about Lacey except the early death part. When Wil and Seth were on the chopping block, I immediately said Wil's a goner because Seth is a total putz and will cause lots of drama. Same with Lacey, she'll probably outlast a few hapless and boring contestants.

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                                      shallots Jan 30, 2009 10:19 AM

                                      You've got to wonder what the world looks like through Seth's eyes or Lacey's pretty eyes.
                                      (Or what food tastes like.)

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                                        Ericandblueboy Jan 30, 2009 10:28 AM

                                        Everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault.

                                    2. re: ChinoWayne
                                      chowser Jan 30, 2009 11:24 AM

                                      No, Lacey and Seth will stay on the show for the "human interest" factor. It makes good reality TV, the same way they keep bachelorettes on the Bachelor-type shows, even if he has no interest. A lot of nice people don't make good ratings. They need contestants you love to hate.

                                      Lacey aside, though, I thought most of the women were attractive. And the most attractive were the ones who could cook--by chance or by hand of Ramsey Gordon?

                                      1. re: chowser
                                        ChinoWayne Jan 30, 2009 11:42 AM

                                        Cast:

                                        Gordon Ramsay - Tyrannical Restaurant chef/owner
                                        Seth - Men's team schmucky back stabbing climber
                                        Lacy - Women's team punching bag
                                        All Other Kitchen Staff - stereotypes to be revealed...

                                        1. re: ChinoWayne
                                          LindaWhit Jan 30, 2009 11:57 AM

                                          A very good start! But you forgot someone:

                                          Jean-Philippe Susilovic - long-suffering apologist maitre'd for HK

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                                            ChinoWayne Jan 30, 2009 12:13 PM

                                            I know, Linda, I couldn't remember his name, and did not want to expend the effort to Google it, your casting description is right on the mark, this man is a master of this character...

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                                              LindaWhit Jan 30, 2009 12:22 PM

                                              It's gotta be the accent - all is forgiven with the accent and puppy-dog eyes. :-)

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                                      jujuthomas Jan 30, 2009 11:08 AM

                                      i almost fell off the couch over that line! what an insane episode. fun stuff.

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                                      HillJ Jan 30, 2009 02:19 PM

                                      They lost me at "Spice Rack" and "Blues Men" ...or was it "Blue Balls...."
                                      ugh the humanity.

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                                        maisonbistro Jan 30, 2009 03:23 PM

                                        I notice that all you people who claim to think this is stupid, and mindless and repetitive and blah blah blah - seem to know a lot about the episode - meaning you're watching it. If it's so bad, it's simple, don't.

                                        I love the show. I love Gordon, I love the chef wannabes, I love JP - the whole shmaltzy, contrived shebang.

                                        The whole premise of any show past season 1 - is thank god we got renewed, let's not mess with the formula that got us here - only change the players- hence Survivor -v.754, Big Brother 39, Amazing Race 27 -

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                                          HillJ Jan 30, 2009 05:51 PM

                                          Of course I watched it; doesn't mean I'll continue to or that I can't read this thread to enjoy all points of view. To counter your rather ugly response to my comment, if you start a discussion about a very colorful program on CH you're bound to get a variety of remarks. Not only the ones you prefer. Enjoy the season.

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                                            maisonbistro Jan 30, 2009 07:10 PM

                                            I apologize. I answered your post but it was directed at all the people who like you made the same kind of comments. The common thread is - watched season one, two whatever.... this year - it's so formulaic, it's a joke, it's not real... and yet, we are still watching it and complaining about it. All I said, is, don't watch it. And let us have our fun - be it mindless and moronic and total fluff.

                                            And I don't think my answer was ugly at all. Facts is facts.

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                                              HillJ Jan 31, 2009 03:41 AM

                                              I appreciate the apology...was it an apology ;)
                                              Like I said, enjoy the season. I'll move onto another thread.

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                                                LindaWhit Jan 31, 2009 04:14 AM

                                                maisonbistro- I watched in the hope that your original post might have some merit in the "refreshingly" comment - the fact that there was a lot more food-related experience and it wouldn't be so typically Ramsay yelling at idiots who didn't seem to know what they were doing.

                                                There was some of that (the yelling), but the little we saw (mostly in the initial "signature dishes" presentation) there did seem to be some people with some good chops in the kitchen. I had hoped that perhaps the American HK would turn a bit more towards the British version - more showing of their cooking, kitchen and management skills, and less yelling by Ramsay and less of the idiotic contestants who throw tantrums and stomp out of the kitchen or cry when Ramsay yells at them when they couldn't make a fried egg.

                                                Unfortunately, it was less "refreshing" than I would have preferred. Will I watch a few more shows to see if it gets any better? Yes. Will I continue to comment on whether I like those shows? Yes.

                                                You love the show and it's format. Many others don't, considering the caliber of Gordon Ramsay himself, and wish it would be raised to another level. Perhaps all of the complaining and comparisons to Top Chef in past seasons *has* encouraged the producers to realize that people want to see better food - not just yelling, screaming, and spitting out of food. We'll have to see.

                                                However, I don't think you have to take us to task for watching the show and hoping for more (and bashing it when it doesn't).

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                                                  maisonbistro Jan 31, 2009 10:45 AM

                                                  I apologize to all those that were offended by my post. I just get a little fed up by these types of posts on the Media board, slamming hosts/shows/ whatever and yet people keep watching. I don't get it. Also, I love all of GR shows from the UK - and I think being in Canada we have access to more of them than the US FN. That being said, this show is bought by and made for Fox, not the BBC.

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                                                    Leonardo Jan 31, 2009 11:13 AM

                                                    Maybe we like to watch shows we love to hate!

                                                    BBC does not make the British version of Kitchen Nightmares.

                                                    Loved it that 3-4 of the women could not boil pasta!

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                                                      LindaWhit Jan 31, 2009 11:17 AM

                                                      That being said, this show is bought by and made for Fox, not the BBC.
                                                      ~~~~~~

                                                      And therein may lie the ultimate issue in that the show might never change from its current format - that it's a made-for Fox-TV show and not one made by the BBC.

                                                      I would like to see the overall ratings of the show during its run to see how the current season is standing up to past seasons.

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                                                        HillJ Jan 31, 2009 11:50 AM

                                                        I get fed up too. I was not overly offended. You happen to reply to my specific post while not everyone weighing in was so head over heels. It appears the show is equally divided pro & con regarding seasons past the first year. I happen to like Gordo off HK alot more than in this format.
                                                        Just my op.

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                                                        Ericandblueboy Jan 31, 2009 09:29 PM

                                                        This show has never been about food. Neither is Kitchen Nightmare. I suggest you stop watching.

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                                                          LindaWhit Feb 1, 2009 05:37 AM

                                                          It's about both - food and drama. One is more prevalent than the other. And I can continue to hope that it focuses more on the food as the British version of Hell's Kitchen does.

                                                          So your suggestion falls by the wayside. I shall watch if I choose to, and I will comment on the show if I choose to and express my disappointment or disgust with the show if that is what I feel.

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                                                            Firegoat Feb 1, 2009 08:22 AM

                                                            I also read that Gordon got picked up to do a live cooking show step by step here in the states. The description sounded really good. I'll watch thaat and enjoy it just as much as I enjoy crazy ass Hell's Kitchen

                                                2. jfood Jan 30, 2009 03:28 PM

                                                  Ah yes the down and dirty, dumb and needy show returns. And yes show #1 grabbed you back to all those hoots of past years. Jfood is glad it's back.

                                                  Now here are the question.

                                                  - How many times di GR spit out the food into the garbage?
                                                  - Over under for Lacey and Seth
                                                  - When does Robert drip sweat into something
                                                  - Will Coi knife Lacey
                                                  - Will Collee teach GR any manners. Do you believe she told him she teaches manners. Awesome
                                                  - When does Danny hit on Carol

                                                  Stay tuned...gonna be a great season for yucks and grins.

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                                                    maisonbistro Jan 30, 2009 05:03 PM

                                                    Thanks Jfood, I totally agree. My pick now would be Coi. I think she has that "it" factor - the thing great chefs have that can't be learned.

                                                    The only thing that bothers me, is that every season, every once in a while, we hear: " you will be..... by something NEVER seen before on HK" - and then we see it and think, hmmm, didn't that happen on season x????

                                                    I have to admit - I would probably spit out risotto made with sugar also - but not with as much panache as Gordo's does it.

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                                                      Janice09 Feb 15, 2009 06:28 AM

                                                      Now it's definitely more interesting and exciting because there are actually more promising chefs in this season than in the previous ones. Actually I was rooting for Ji because of the gumption and talent that she showed in the second episode's task as she soldiered her way through with and injury and she never complained. That's why it really saddened me to watch her leave because she was more deserving than Colleen and Lacey (who were saved from being eliminated to my dismay). What she did was noble though and I hope that they would bring her back to the show. I found that she has a web site, http://www.chefji.com with photos and you can email and even vote as to whether to have her back to the show!

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                                                    Dutchvanobvious Feb 15, 2009 11:08 AM

                                                    I've watched since season one. Who doesn't love trash talking tv?! Now GR's nemesis, Marco Pierre White is getting a show too. I guess we'll see where the hurling o abuses originated as I do recall ramsay mentioning that Marco was the only person to ever make him cry.
                                                    I must say, that last weeks episode, a completion of service by both teams could bear out well for the rest of the season. I mean, in season's past it wasn't until near the end of season that any team could get their act together long enough to complete a service.

                                                    I prefer the Brit version of Kitchen Nightmares, and I really enjoyed this season of the F word.

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