New York Pizza
Has anyone come across New York style pizza in Toronto? I'm from Connecticut, and am spoiled with all the delicious New York and New Haven pizzerias. I haven't found anything quite as good while in Toronto. Maybe it's just a matter of taste.
Not sure what exactly NY style pizza is as opposed to other styles, but overall, I say the pizza situation in this city is absolutely terrible.
The amount of wood burning oven establishments is probably small enough to count on one hand -- and in my opinion, the oven makes a huge difference. Don't even get me started on the lack of places that use fresh mozzerella! 99% of all places just use bagged variety... Extremely disappointing
I grew up in Brooklyn. My mother was from New Haven. I've eaten an awful lot of those pizzas.
There is no pizza that truly evokes New York style pizza in Toronto. There never has been in the four decades I've lived here. This has always surprised me, since there are many pizza styles available in Toronto and the New York style pizza is one of the simplest. Several pizzerias with "New York" in their name do NOT make New York style pizzas.
While there may be others, the closest I've found are the plain cheese pizza (only) at the Mamma's chain and the Margherita pizza at (the very inconsistent) Massimo's on College St.
As to New Haven style pizza, there is nothing that even comes close. That said, I've heard disparaging things about Frank Pepe's over the last few years.
I grew up in Hartford and went to school in New Haven so fully understand your lack of good pizza here in TO. I agree with embee that Massimo's is about as close as it gets but can be very inconsistant. I've found Mama's looks sort of like NY style pizza but the sauce is bland and crust is usually fairly limp which doesn't hold up on the fold so well. Also would be super limp in compared to the rugged New Haven crust.
I had a couple of amazing slices at John's on College that reminded me of NY pizza, but it was after drinking a way too much with friends. We got delivery from the other John's location and it wasn't very good at all.
If you're every down in The Falls, get a Zappi's pizza delivered to your room. Order extra sauce and cheese and you have something very similar to what you're used to and craving.
A good tip at all these places is to keep it simple. Most places in Ontario tend to overload the pizza with way too many toppings. So plain, or like two toppings at the most. If you go beyond that expect something more like a chef salad on your pizza. We had a Mama's pizza about a month ago and had to pull about half of the red onion off of it. There was so much on it that neighbors could smell it out in the hallway when delivery guy walked by. It was like they were trying to get rif of it, onions were just piled on the thing...gross.
I agree completely. One year, I alternated between a week in Toronto and a week in NYC for almost four months. In NYC, I used to visit one of the big delis (Stage Door, Carnegie, etc.) because I liked the sandwich (and the second half provided dinner that night as well - I was on a budget), and at least twice a week, I went to Ray's Famous for either a couple of slices or their meatball sandwiches.
I wish I could put my finger on it - the crust was chewy and pliable without being doughy, the sauce was tasty, the cheese was generous, and since I usually only got pepperoni, the meat was spicy and flavourful. You'd think these things would be easy to replicate, but sadly, in Toronto, they seem unattainable.
In my youth, there was a place on Dupont called "Giorgios" which is the closest I've ever had to NY pizza in Toronto. They are, unfortunately, long gone (and I really don't know why - whenever we went there, which was often, as my frat house was just down the street, they were mobbed).
I'm not a big fan of GTA pizza. Then again, I don't want tandoori chicken on my pizzas. I don't mind chowing down on an Ottawa/Montreal-style pizza, a NY or NH-style pizza, a Neopolitan, a Roman, etc. Toronto just, well, there hasn't been much to suit my tastes. It's passable, sure, and if I'm drunk I don't mind. It's pretty depressing though when this is what a city's pizza situation is like. Pizza Libretto was way overrated (their calamari was better than the pizza), and Terroni is still one of the better places in Toronto. Chicago Style in Hamilton do a reasonable facsimile of Chicago stuffed crust, but they're too far out for most people to ever try.
Pizza in Toronto is something I order when I'm hanging out with friends and need a grease fix in the early hours of the morning. Great food? I haven't found much along those lines..