590498 Sat Jan 24 15:04:47 -0800 2009 25 27 General Chowhounding Topics 0 4354390 I moved to Jerusalem this past summer, and as someone sensitive to dairy products - this country is killing me. The dairy products here are just too good. Cheeses (soft and hard), ice cream, milk, even the cottage cheese....its all plotting my intestinal demise. So while I'm ranking Israel as fantastically evil place on the dairy front - what other places rank as least hospitable to those who shouldn't indulge in (too much) dairy. Sat Jan 24 15:04:48 -0800 2009 180127 cresyd 1 4354393 tibet Sat Jan 24 15:05:42 -0800 2009 4354390 135229 thew 1 4354932 Devon, England (Devonshire cream?!?!?! - yum) Sat Jan 24 19:34:34 -0800 2009 4354390 69079 starlady 1 4355184 United States of America. Sat Jan 24 23:17:00 -0800 2009 4354390 11583 ipsedixit 2 4364125 The US of A is the best place to live if you are intolerant to lactose or allergic to any food, what with the astounding abundance of foodstuffs in every variety imaginable, all laid out in convenient giant supermarkets, many open 24 hours a day . There's not a country on earth that comes close. Tue Jan 27 19:38:09 -0800 2009 4355184 248284 taos 1 4355304 Germany: There are at least 15 types of cream, for starters France: all of the 356+ cheeses Sun Jan 25 02:43:46 -0800 2009 4354390 224238 Caralien 1 4355413 Um, a dairy farm? Sun Jan 25 05:59:38 -0800 2009 4354390 48317 NWKate 2 4355452 Vacaville, CA? Halo Micro Dairy Farm? Sun Jan 25 06:24:26 -0800 2009 4355413 224238 Caralien 1 4355562 The Dairy State=Wisconsin. Plus all the snow and cold. Sun Jan 25 07:42:26 -0800 2009 4354390 227406 JohnE O 1 4355566 just an aside - the harder the cheese the less lactose is in it. hard cheeses are pretty edible for the lactose intolerant Sun Jan 25 07:43:41 -0800 2009 4354390 135229 thew 2 4355581 As are goat cheeses and most yogurt. Sun Jan 25 07:51:53 -0800 2009 4355566 224238 Caralien 3 4359387 Yes, and getting your hands on some lactase as a replacement enzyme helps too. :) I'm so glad the only thing I have real issues with is real milk. But that's hard enough. I couldn't imagine having problems with cheese. I think I'd die. :) Mon Jan 26 13:18:47 -0800 2009 4355581 119275 Morganna 3 4359452 untrue! it depends on the person... Liberté Méditerranée yogourt will be the end of me. Mon Jan 26 13:39:06 -0800 2009 4355581 224803 dumpycactus 4 4359533 have you tried their goat milk yogurt? also: http://www.healthcastle.com/lactose-intolerant.shtml Mon Jan 26 14:05:22 -0800 2009 4359452 224238 Caralien 1 4359203 Pakistan Mon Jan 26 12:33:47 -0800 2009 4354390 36661 Sam Fujisaka 2 4361420 I'm curious to hear what you found so lactose-heavy about Pakistan. Other than the occasional sweet and lassi, my father rarely consumes dairy, even ghee. Tue Jan 27 06:55:24 -0800 2009 4359203 68363 JungMann 3 4363478 Ahhh..., must be because in Pakistan I've worked the most around Lahore - very traditional, lots of dairy and milk products. Or I ate a lot of dairy. Love everything. Tue Jan 27 15:56:59 -0800 2009 4361420 36661 Sam Fujisaka 4 4364895 What form did the dairy take? I can think of desserts, chai, presumably raita as I'm sure the street vendors were a hit with you, but other than Punjabi specialties like rogan josh, sarson ka saag, and a few makhani dishes, I can't come up with anything especially heavy on the lactose in Pakistani cuisine. Especially when it comes to more rustic dishes like chole or saag gosht, though conceivably they could be made with ghee in the Punjab. Wed Jan 28 06:37:05 -0800 2009 4363478 68363 JungMann 5 4365239 All of the saag we've had has yogurt blended into the sauce. Wed Jan 28 08:03:26 -0800 2009 4364895 224238 Caralien 1 4361406 Long Island, USA. Between the baked ziti, chicken parm, sausage bread with mootz, and sundry macaronis shoved under one's nose, there is hardly time to break out the Lactaid. Tue Jan 27 06:51:12 -0800 2009 4354390 68363 JungMann 1 4363915 Mongolia, Kazakhstan, or Kyrgyzstan. everything is yogurt, ayran, cheese, or dried cheese haha Tue Jan 27 18:40:18 -0800 2009 4354390 227302 kirinraj 1 4364378 a dairy farm Tue Jan 27 21:29:29 -0800 2009 4354390 149918 gdaerin 2 4369329 Haha! That's what first popped into my head when I read this post. Thu Jan 29 09:54:39 -0800 2009 4364378 152043 TampaAurora 3 4374114 It's a bit tounge in cheek, but I would imagine that the absolutey worst place to live if you were lactose intolerant would be a really tradional Masai Village, since, as I understand there are still people who make a point of living on "Masai Milkshakes" (a traditional mixture of milk and fresh cow blood) and absolutey nothing else. Fri Jan 30 15:30:38 -0800 2009 4369329 24492 jumpingmonk 4 4374124 If she keeps Kashrut, it would be doubly bad! Fri Jan 30 15:32:44 -0800 2009 4374114 152043 TampaAurora 5 4374191 The only worse thing Kosher-wise would be "boudin au lait", as it starts off from a sausage made with pig's blood (black pudding), with added milk. I'd say the Netherlands outside cosmopolitan cities like Amsterdam or Rotterdam. Cripes they consume a lot of milk, and not-very-hard cheeses, milk-pudding etc for breakfast. In Amsterdam itself, there is a lot of food choice. Fri Jan 30 16:00:54 -0800 2009 4374124 84119 lagatta