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Worst place to live if lactose intolerant

cresyd Jan 24, 2009 02:04 PM

I moved to Jerusalem this past summer, and as someone sensitive to dairy products - this country is killing me. The dairy products here are just too good. Cheeses (soft and hard), ice cream, milk, even the cottage cheese....its all plotting my intestinal demise. So while I'm ranking Israel as fantastically evil place on the dairy front - what other places rank as least hospitable to those who shouldn't indulge in (too much) dairy.

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  1. thew RE: cresyd Jan 24, 2009 02:05 PM


    1. starlady RE: cresyd Jan 24, 2009 06:34 PM

      Devon, England (Devonshire cream?!?!?! - yum)

      1. ipsedixit RE: cresyd Jan 24, 2009 10:17 PM

        United States of America.

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          taos RE: ipsedixit Jan 27, 2009 06:38 PM

          The US of A is the best place to live if you are intolerant to lactose or allergic to any food, what with the astounding abundance of foodstuffs in every variety imaginable, all laid out in convenient giant supermarkets, many open 24 hours a day . There's not a country on earth that comes close.

        2. Caralien RE: cresyd Jan 25, 2009 01:43 AM

          Germany: There are at least 15 types of cream, for starters
          France: all of the 356+ cheeses

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            NWKate RE: cresyd Jan 25, 2009 04:59 AM

            Um, a dairy farm?

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              Caralien RE: NWKate Jan 25, 2009 05:24 AM

              Vacaville, CA? Halo Micro Dairy Farm?

            2. JohnE O RE: cresyd Jan 25, 2009 06:42 AM

              The Dairy State=Wisconsin. Plus all the snow and cold.

              1. thew RE: cresyd Jan 25, 2009 06:43 AM

                just an aside - the harder the cheese the less lactose is in it. hard cheeses are pretty edible for the lactose intolerant

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                  Caralien RE: thew Jan 25, 2009 06:51 AM

                  As are goat cheeses and most yogurt.

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                    Morganna RE: Caralien Jan 26, 2009 12:18 PM

                    Yes, and getting your hands on some lactase as a replacement enzyme helps too. :)

                    I'm so glad the only thing I have real issues with is real milk. But that's hard enough. I couldn't imagine having problems with cheese. I think I'd die. :)

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                      dumpycactus RE: Caralien Jan 26, 2009 12:39 PM

                      untrue! it depends on the person...

                      Liberté Méditerranée yogourt will be the end of me.

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                        Caralien RE: dumpycactus Jan 26, 2009 01:05 PM

                        have you tried their goat milk yogurt?


                  2. Sam Fujisaka RE: cresyd Jan 26, 2009 11:33 AM


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                      JungMann RE: Sam Fujisaka Jan 27, 2009 05:55 AM

                      I'm curious to hear what you found so lactose-heavy about Pakistan. Other than the occasional sweet and lassi, my father rarely consumes dairy, even ghee.

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                        Sam Fujisaka RE: JungMann Jan 27, 2009 02:56 PM

                        Ahhh..., must be because in Pakistan I've worked the most around Lahore - very traditional, lots of dairy and milk products. Or I ate a lot of dairy. Love everything.

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                          JungMann RE: Sam Fujisaka Jan 28, 2009 05:37 AM

                          What form did the dairy take? I can think of desserts, chai, presumably raita as I'm sure the street vendors were a hit with you, but other than Punjabi specialties like rogan josh, sarson ka saag, and a few makhani dishes, I can't come up with anything especially heavy on the lactose in Pakistani cuisine. Especially when it comes to more rustic dishes like chole or saag gosht, though conceivably they could be made with ghee in the Punjab.

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                            Caralien RE: JungMann Jan 28, 2009 07:03 AM

                            All of the saag we've had has yogurt blended into the sauce.

                    2. JungMann RE: cresyd Jan 27, 2009 05:51 AM

                      Long Island, USA. Between the baked ziti, chicken parm, sausage bread with mootz, and sundry macaronis shoved under one's nose, there is hardly time to break out the Lactaid.

                      1. kirinraj RE: cresyd Jan 27, 2009 05:40 PM

                        Mongolia, Kazakhstan, or Kyrgyzstan. everything is yogurt, ayran, cheese, or dried cheese haha

                        1. gdaerin RE: cresyd Jan 27, 2009 08:29 PM

                          a dairy farm

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                            TampaAurora RE: gdaerin Jan 29, 2009 08:54 AM

                            Haha! That's what first popped into my head when I read this post.

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                              jumpingmonk RE: TampaAurora Jan 30, 2009 02:30 PM

                              It's a bit tounge in cheek, but I would imagine that the absolutey worst place to live if you were lactose intolerant would be a really tradional Masai Village, since, as I understand there are still people who make a point of living on "Masai Milkshakes" (a traditional mixture of milk and fresh cow blood) and absolutey nothing else.

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                                TampaAurora RE: jumpingmonk Jan 30, 2009 02:32 PM

                                If she keeps Kashrut, it would be doubly bad!

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                                  lagatta RE: TampaAurora Jan 30, 2009 03:00 PM

                                  The only worse thing Kosher-wise would be "boudin au lait", as it starts off from a sausage made with pig's blood (black pudding), with added milk.

                                  I'd say the Netherlands outside cosmopolitan cities like Amsterdam or Rotterdam. Cripes they consume a lot of milk, and not-very-hard cheeses, milk-pudding etc for breakfast. In Amsterdam itself, there is a lot of food choice.

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