How is comb honey eaten/served?
I have never seen comb honey served in any restaurant, so I'm curious how it is supposed to be served and eaten. Is it an appetizer, meant to be eaten with knife and fork? Is a chunk of it supposed to sit in your hot tea? I have no idea or frame of reference, please help.
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My question is how do you use it in something like tea? You stir it up but then are left with the wax chunks floating around. And I'm assuming there's no honey left in the chunks afterward-- the hot tea has probably dissolved it all away. I'm not opposed (I don't think) to chewing on a whole piece as a snack (I might try this in a minute here), but as far as the wax floating in my tea, I'm not too into it. I guess a strainer would work?
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Comb honey in the US is produced on a special starter layer of thin pure bees wax. The bees build a comb on this layer that they then fill it with the nectar that ripens into honey and cap with a layer of wax. If the bee keeper has denied the queen access to this section of the hive there will be no baby bees in it. You can eat chunks of comb on bread or toast it doesn't cause digestion issues if you eat it
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you bee lovers, you were talking about beanies, but how about t-shirts to signal your love of honey? http://www.daisyowl.com/store/beeshir...
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re: alkapal
population plunging:
http://www.dailyitem.com/0100_news/local_story_165075330.htmlpopulation growth:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=growth-in-honeybee-populationcure for colony collapse discovered?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/...-
re: Caralien
i'm not following the bee issue in detail, but this post from sal vanilla on a thread about the bees is the positive report to which i referred above in my post: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5208...
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re: c oliver
Just arrived in NYC for a long visit. Went to Fairway yesterday and got a little box of honeycomb. Part of our lunch today will be honeycomb and gorgonzola dolce (from DiPalo's) on a baguette along with some hunter's sausage also from DP. Oh, did I mention wine??? We ARE on vacation, ya know!
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re: c oliver
How did you find the comb there? Was it spreadable or waxy? I have to wonder if there are several factors at play with the waxy Vs Spreadable issue.
One, personal taste which can clearly cover a lot of ground.
However I am wondering if because you are getting honey from a specific vendor if the type of bees in that area or the climate have an impact on the comb. I also wonder if freshness comes to play. After all we all know honey can crystallize if stored to long.
Ambient temperature and humidity where the comb was harvested and how it was stored might have an impact on "waxyness" Vs spreadability.
There are many types of honey and I also have to wonder if that also contributes to the texture of the comb.
Orange blossom Vs Clover etc.-
re: Fritter
Honeybees are similar in breeding and traits across North America. The combs are built the same way and finished the same way. Nectar is fanned until it is set, then sealed with a cap. It will keep in liquid form for at least two months, regardless of normal variations in temperature or humidity. Eventually it will crystallize, but if harvested it would be sold or consumed before this happens.
Hot toast or rolls would make the comb spreadable, but some people, like myself, like to chew the wax and discard it.
I'm mostly familiar with northern honeycombs, clover and basswood, but there is one southern honey that won't crystallize, (Tupelo?)
Otherwise the bees produce a very standardized product accross the continent, the wax being the same everywhere, and the honey varied by flower.
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As a child... mom would buy the comb only as a treat for my sister and I. I have also had it as part of a cheese tray, but recently I had some dipped in dark chocolate from a chocolate shop...it was really great. I plan on trying to recreate it for Christmas this year.
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as a child growing up in rural Japan, my mother used to only buy honey with the comb. she would spread it on thick toast. i could never eat it because i have a mental image of baby bees being stuck inside the comb...
the store that sold the comb honey also sold bee larvae (to be stir fried and served with beer) and wasp honey (which the wasp was suspended in honey).
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Hello clubbies and non-clubbies :)
Here are the two emails I've gotten from my new best friend, Betsy, at Savannah Bee:
"Good Morning Catherine,
Great question. You can either eat it or spit it out. It’s a personal thing. However, the comb is presumably more nutritious than the honey itself, containing a natural antibiotic, bee pollen, some residual royal jelly and propolis. All of this plus the fact that it is easily digestible makes it a natural wonder. I hope this answers your question. If not please feel free to write me anytime – I am so happy to answer questions like this. Have a delightful Wednesday!
Sincerely,
BetsyEmail #2:
"Honeycomb is just itself, if you think its spreadable then it is, and vise versa. You can eat it anyway you see fit. Yet another reason it’s neat – do with it what you will. Get creative. I’m often asked what I eat it with and my initial answer always is “a spoon” (then I get into a diatribe involving manchego and granny smith apples but that’s another discussion altogether). I hope I’ve helped but I can’t be sure so I encourage you to write back and let me know. Plus I’ll try to answer anything else you can think of . . ."
I sent her the link to this thread. This IS fun, isn't it? And I like alkapal's design HUGELY :) Maybe the club's first meeting should be in Savannah, one of my favorite cities.
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re: c oliver
Isle of Palms, SC (near Charleston). It is hot late August, but at least the water is nice to cool off in!
Things were so much nicer when we were both unemployed and visited for a month mid-Jan to mid-Feb. The good old days. :)
Holiday season is out I'm sure, but springtime is lovely too! Thoughts?
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As other posters have stated, honey comb is wax and isn't generally eaten in large quantities. If you can handle the sweetness, you can chew on the honeycomb until the flavor is gone and spit out the comb.
I have been served very small, thin pieces of honey comb on cheese plates and have eaten them, comb and all, with cheeses, esp. blue cheeses. A little wax won't hurt you! These little pieces of honeycomb could be "spreadable", if only because the comb was cut so thin...kind of like how you can spread brie with the rind...sort of. The rind isn't really spreadable the way the cheese itself (or honey) is, but with a small enough piece of rind you can sort of "spread" it out on a cracker...
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In regard to the OP's original question. I wouldn't place honey with comb in hot tea. The hot water melts the wax, leaving a residue quite unpleasant and spoiling the tea. But spread on bread, crusty and delicious!
The Savannah Bee site provides some wonderful recipes for honey. You might want to visit that page.
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re: c oliver
the beanies are different these days: http://www.mysportsshop.com/COLLEGE_G...
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re: Caroline1
yes, archie and jughead! http://www.comicvine.com/jughead-jones/29-1728/
and "little rascals" re-runs. http://heustess.com/pictures.htm
ok, here is the quintessential "beanie" in my mind: http://www.villagehatshop.com/propeller_round.html
for savannah bee company, they can do it in a "bee" theme: yellow and black color blocks -- maybe in a microplush fabric, soft like a bee's fuzz? http://entertheoctopus.files.wordpres...
and a propeller that looks like bee wings (with the delicate framework and all. kewl!)
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re: alkapal
Yes! That's a real beanie! And here's a picture of Beanie wearing a beanie.
http://www.tvacres.com/puppets_beany_...
I never watched the "Beanie and Cecil" cartoon, and conversely I never ever missed an episode of the "Time For Beanie" puppet show with Stan Freberg as one of the voices. I feel sorry for anybody who doesn't know who Stan Freberg was. This was my favorite TV show of all time. Albert Einstein's too! '-)
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I work in a retail cheese shop and we sell small 12oz blocks of honeycomb to go with our cheese.
We recommend to customers they serve a small chunk on the cheese plate with toasted pecans or walnuts, as well as fresh berries. A nice English cheddar is my favorite with this combo.
Then eat a little bit of each together, the textures and flavors come together on the tongue,
the crunch, the sweet, the sharpness, just wonderful.›1 Reply-
re: pacheeseguy
web link from about.com regarding cheese/honey pairings.
http://cheese.about.com/od/cheeseplat...
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We raised bees when I was a kid, and my grandfather would switch out empty frames (frames hang inside the bee hive and consist of a sheet of wax with hexagonal chambers on both sides, which the bees fill with honey then seal off a full hexagon with a layer of bees wax). When you harvest the honey, there are two or three ways you can extract the honey. The most primitive consist of cutting the comb into serving size pieces and letting the diner worry about how to break the seals on the chambers, or you can put the whole comb in a container a.d smush it all up,. Some heat it and let the melted wax float to the top. Or there is a device that is sort of like an electric spatula (the kind you use for frosting cakes, not flipping eggs or burgers) on which the whole blade heats up and you use it to slice the layer of seals off the top of all the hexagons in wide strokes, then set the comb to drain. Commercial extraction is far more sophisticated and often centrifuged. If you want the benefits of raw honey, you don't heat the honey to remove the wax..
As a kid, I would chew bees wax when I had a chink of honey still in the comb, but that's an awful lot of sweet in one mouth full! I used to also chew the paraffin cap from jars of home made jams and jellies. Whether it's bees wax or food grade paraffin, I don't think it does anything great for your working innards if you swallow it. I always treated it like gum. Spit it out when the flavor is gone.
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re: Caroline1
Same info here. The racks/frames in which the bees built the comb were placed into wooden boxes we called "supers". We only robbed about half of the honey from each super, and then only early in the summer. We decapped the comb with a hot knife, then spun the honey out with an old hand-cranked centrifuge. Some years the honey was dark and strong, other years light and mild. I always preferred the mild honey. And yes, just a small chunk of honeycomb is a lot of sweet. It almost made me queasy.
We had to be careful about leaving the bees enough honey to survive the winter on: "A hive a of bees robbed in June is worth a silver spoon. A hive of bees robbed in July is sure to die."
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http://www.savannahbee.com/product/21/8
The Savannah Bee Co. offers a delicious comb honey.
I've been saving the last bit of my current jar for a piece of honeywheat bread (which I'm proofing on Wed). A nice sharp white cheddar alongside and I call that lunch!›31 Replies-
re: HillJ
Ah, thanks. Here's another link and the pix is just like what I've bought.
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re: alkapal
Comb suspended in honey is $15; comb infused is $24.00 for a square or round case. http://www.savannahbee.com/category/14
Have you tried chestnut honey with date nut bread and greek yogurt. To die for!
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re: HillJ
http://www.padillausa.com/products/vi...
This is what we ended up with. Actual cost = $4.88 (Pretty sure it went up, I swear the price started with a 3 before!
)We both tasted a nibble. It's edible, but sort of a tiny bit waxy. Some of the floaty pieces I tasted were melty and good, but the comb part that I actually cut, was chewed and chewed and chewed and it didn't soften. Mr Dolce liked it and asked for more.
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re: Boccone Dolce
bd -- clover honey for $3 is good, too. say "hey" to the honey bear for me! https://premiergourmet.com/store/products/Doan's-Clover-Honey-Bear.html ;-). i'm sure there was honey in this car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLis6jWc05M
here's a pint of "comb honey" for $9. http://www.ebeehoney.com/24ozBearPack...
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re: jaykayen
jaykayen, this was english wild chestnut honey (or french?) and seemed really complex and subtly spicy. it was served at the national gallery of art's little "garden cafe", when the "english" menu was the theme. accompanied by stilton and walnut halves. scrum-dilly-icious! it was not real datrk, nor bitter -- as some of the online descriptions of chestnut honey. i know there is incredible variation due to locale -- that's the beauty of honey!
i found some spanish honeys on sale, while looking up the honey, fyi: http://www.hotpaella.com/Departments/Spanish-Food/Honey.aspx?utm_source=AdWords&utm_medium=PPC&utm_term=chestnut%20honey&utm_content=2337544693&utm_campaign=Honey&Network=Search&SiteTarget=&guid=76ccbf2d-8af0-dc11-a3d1-000f1f8c3bca&gclid=CKGt09CrrpgCFQEpGgod3QL9Ug
another sale: http://www.artisansweets.com/category...
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re: buttertart
use it in honey cake. chestnut honey in a cake really imparts a nice flavor and moisture. No reason not to use it. Need a recipe, this is my go to:
http://www.interfaithfamily.com/holid...-
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re: HillJ
Yes, have a heavy hand except with cinnamon, can eat it but not overly fond of it (worked in a spice factory for one glorious fun-filled day between high school and college, packaging cinnamon sticks - didn't know I was allergic until I woke up the next day swollen and welted wherever the oil had gotten on me).
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re: HillJ
http://www.savannahbee.com/product/22/14
Is how I like it yum....the last small town I lived in sold them at a local boutique.
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What a great question! In my superwalmart they have cute, fat jars of honey in the Mexican Food aisle (I think they call it ethnic) that I always pick up and look at but never buy. There is a hunk of honeycomb suspended towards the bottom of each jar. My husband told me to buy it one time because I always just pick them up and stare. I told him I didn't want them to lose their magic-if we got one and tasted it and it was like eating a corn cob I would really be sad. They are under $3. Either the jar, or the honey is very dark.
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re: BamiaWruz
I couldn't disagree more so I'm betting it's what condition the honeycomb is in. The times I've been able to find it, it's comes in a little round, plastic container with a fitted lid. The honey comb fits in that quite tightly. And it's never refrigerated --- or so I was told by one of the people I bought it from. It spread on cheese, bread, etc. very smoothly and is nothing like "chewing wax." It's one of those special things I'm always keeping an eye out for and should probably look to order online. It's SO delish.
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re: c oliver
Then it's just me but I've had it growing up, and purchased it from organic stores and it was always the same, as Louise said it's like chewing flavour out of gum.
But I found the more you chew the tougher it gets, it doesn't melt.
Maybe I'll seek some out and give it another chance.
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re: BamiaWruz
bamia, i've had the same experience as you: the honeycomb is waxy, and it loses the honey when you suck on it in your mouth for a while, then you chew it some more, and spit out the wax. i have no desire to eat the wax.
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re: HillJ
Boy (girl?), I don't know about "fake combs." But I think jayt90 might consider taking a softer approach. I've eaten/bought honeycomb three times in the last year and spead it on bread and cheese. It's a memorable taste sensation and by that I mean wonderfully memorable. I love it and, while not cheap, will continue to buy it and spread it like butter or a soft cheese. Hillj, let's form a little club, ok?
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re: c oliver
A little bit won't hurt , but it is expelled rather than digested.
In my experience in the honey business, almost all of the beeswax (from the combs) was separated from the honey and sent in blocks to candle makers. A very small amount of perfect appearing combs were held back for sale, at much higher prices.-
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re: c oliver
As Wiki points out, the melting temperature is around 145 F
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re: HillJ
My family has been keeping bees for generations, and we've got 11 active hives right now, and I've never had wax that was spreadable and edible on toast at room temp, even on hot summer days. Usually, we just break off chunks before putting the wax in the centrifuge. We let the chunks sit in bowls or jars, breaking off bits to chew and using the honey as it drains.
But this spreadable honeycomb? I think this might be a particular kind if it can be spread at room temperature...maybe from a very early harvest, before ripening is complete? Or a particular kind of bee/nectar that requires less structured wax? I'd be interested to know what type of honey this is. Can you tell us what's on the packaging?
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re: RosemaryHoney
RosemaryH, perhaps you misunderstood me. I haven't bought honey with a suspended comb that was already spreadable or read spreadable on the jar/label. I have been purchasing honey (all forms, all flavors) from the Savannah Bee Co. for years.
In the case of the comb suspended in their honey, I use a knife to cut away a nice piece and spread it (along with the honey) on a delicious slice of toasted honey wheat bread (usually from what I've baked during the week) along with a nice slice of room temp white cheddar and enjoy.
Perhaps Savannah Bee Co. can provide you with greater information; one beekeeper to another. I'm just a happy customer encouraging the "CH masses" to enjoy the comb.
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re: HillJ
I'm having more fun with Eden's Nectar - local raw honey here in the Tampa Bay Area. I'm addicted to their seasonal honey - especially the Winter variety. I'm never without at least one bear in my pantry. Maybe one day I'll grow up into a real jar!
http://www.edensnectar.com/
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re: Boccone Dolce
I'm w/ your husband. You need to buy one and try it. Honey never loses it's magic! my SO is a serious honey man. I'm not as crazy as he is but we do have more than 100 types of honey in the "Honey Section" of our pantry. It's okay though because honey is the only food which NEVER goes bad. If the honey is very dark, it's because of the flowers that went into it's making. Color and flavor vary wildly. If it's really intense, just eat it slow. It lasts forever, literally. But you have to try it, and yes the comb is good. Think, prize in the cracker jacks.
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re: Caralien
YES! Another flood of childhood memory... Toast or biscuit, either will do nicely. Around the end of WW2, we had a local beekeeper who would deliver honey in or out of the comb. If you bought the comb, it was delivered in the wooden frame the bees had made it in, and Mom would just carve out a chunk and put it into a bowl for the table. I remember the table, and that kitchen, and how much more interesting honey was served that way.
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We had it at Salt Tasting Room in Vancouver (check their website). You pick meats, cheeses and "condiments" one of which was honeycomb. It was paired with a pretty strong cheese and it was wonderful. We've bought it a couple of times since in specialty markets and served with cheese. It's so incredibly delicious and looks so interesting and is just fun to eat. I'll be interested to see if others eat it in different ways.





















