Advice needed on a new dishwasher please!
I am finally buying a new dishwasher. I searched the boards but did not find anything recent about reliable dishwashers! I am looking to spend between 600. and 1,000 bucks. I cook all the time and we often have dinner parties. Thanks!
? do you need height etc for stem ware,I wanted the ability to wash some stuff nearly soapless with plenty of heat ect
When I went looking the decision to not use it for huge bowls,platters and pans had been made.So I then carried around some daily use stemware and a place setting of the 3 china sets we use most.My last dish washer was a pig with lipstick to load and unload.HATED IT so we settled on mielle here and elecltrolux at the beach.There were at least 3 more equal,except in $$.Purchased both based on best deal at the time.
You first need to decide if you want european, or american. American brands will generally have a food grinder, and a heater for drying. For this reason, they are generally more noisy. European brands will generally have no food grinder (instead, they will have a trap or screen that may need cleaning or emptying,) and no heater for drying. They are generally much quieter, but do not dry as quickly. Many consider the food grinder thing a non issue, but it may be an issue if you do not clean your dishes well before putting them in the DW. After the cycle is done, you might not be able to go from dw to cabinet in a euro brand. Very good chance everything will still be wet.
After choosing amer or euro, then get into the options:
1. Adjustable upper rack. - good for tall wine glasses, or maybe loading a big load of plates on BOTH top and bottom
2. floating silverware tray.
3. Pot scrubber. (Will probably add more noise. And is also going to be only ONE specific area that you can put the things that need to be scrubbed)
4. Control panel location. - sure, it might look sleek/slick to get the control panel on top of the door facing UP, but it might be a PAIN to get to - read many complaints about this.
I just bought appliances for a full gut remodel, and spent a good amt of time researching all appliances, forums, consumer reports, etc. I spent a few months researching. I went with:
adjustable top rack
control panel on FRONT
I think for Euro brands, the best play for value:performance goes to bosch.
For rapid washing (big dinner parties) I think Miele makes a model that uses the rinse water from the previous wash to start the wash for the next load.
If I was you, I'd start out by looking at Bosch, Electrolux, and Miele for Euro brands. Electrolux seems to pack more options in for the price. Miele might stretch your top end budget a little, but you can certainly find sales.
For American, you might wanna start with Kenmore, and Kitchenaid. I do believe that Consumer Reports had like more than two Kenmores in their top ten dishwasher list IIRC.
For 600 to 1000 bux, however, you won't be killing yourself over your options. It's basically
going to boil down to quietness vs the need for a drying cycle. And the new American models are pretty darn quiet these days which is why I went with American. Also, the food grinder feature swayed me even though I read and heard that for the most part, it wouldn't really matter. The thing that I HAVE heard is that the machine will clog up if a particle slips past the EUro brands' food screens. I just opted to not have to maybe deal with that.
If you do go Euro, check the model to see how easy it is to get to the food trap/screen for cleaning/ emptying. GO TO A STORE that has that model on display, and remove the screen yourself. Some are more difficult than others, and might turn out to be a pain that you just don't wanna deal with. The bosch and elolux models I was looking at were easy, and both in your price range.
I got a whirlpool gold a few years ago for the low end of your budget. No complaints so far. I just scrape my dishes of large chunks and they come out spotless. Even baked on cheese and sauce disappears. Of course, your detergent is a big factor as well (I use the Electrosol power tabs).
Can't help you with the hoity toity models. I can't see spending a G on a dishwasher. And, FWIW, the $400-600 models almost always score higher on Consumer Reports than the $1000-1500 models.
Oh, and while consumer reports generally rates a couple of kenmore appliances very well in almost all categories, the fact that Sears changes their model numbers every year and you can rarely find the models that are mentioned in the CR reviews, I've mostly stopped buying kenmore models on principle. Kenmore's are typically Whirlpool anyways.
It's a bit over your budget, but worth every penny. I just Wed. had a Miele dishwasher installed. It is fantastic. It has a third tray on top that is for cutlery, a second rack below that is for glassware. It will go up and down, but in the normal position it takes all my wine glasses standing up, and they are not small glasses. It also holds 14 place settings. I ran it for the first time this afternoon, and I couldn't believe how beautiful the wine glasses came out, along with the silverware. I bought the bottom of the line, and it was about $1,300, which included installation. With Miele, you have to have someone that is authorized by them do the installation, plus I received a two year warranty, from the store that I purchased it from. They removed a Kenmore that I hated.
I have a Bosch that fits into the lower end of your price range, and I love it. I've had it for about 8 months, and I couldn't be happier. One of the things I most like about it is it has a short wash option, in about 35 minutes my dishes are clean. We use Seventh Generation powder w/Jet Dry rinse agent, and the only thing that did not come clean in that 35 minutes was a lasagna pan. There are many other wash options, pots & pans, china, regular wash. It has a SS interior so it uses the residual heat from the wash to dry the dishes, although it has a heated dry option. The upper rack can be moved up and down and the silverware basket can be moved as well. It does not have a food grinder so we have to clean out the trap, and I think we clean it out at most once a month.
I remember all the research I did before we bought our dw, and all the headaches it gave me. We were trying to decide between the Bosch we bought and, if I remember correctly an LG, like I said earlier we couldn't be happier with our decision. Good luck and let me know if I can be of any more assistance.