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chilipepper Jan 22, 2009 08:04 PM

Well, maybe someone has heard prayers for soup dumplings.
Imagine my surprise driving along St. Marc and spying this joint near Tupper that promises those elusive dumplings.
It's a spare, tiny, all-white basement space with three foldout tables and about 12 or so folding chairs, a cash register in the back, and a little counter with condiments, napkins and utensils and such.
But when I was there, all the seats were filled, mostly by Chinese university students chattering away in Mandarin and chowing down dumplings.
I didn't have time to sit and indulge so take out it was.
It's a one sheet paper menu with over 20 different dumplings, grouped under:
Vegetarian, Seafood
Seafood, Seafood with Meat
Pork, Beef, Lamb
plus a smattering of appetizers and other dishes.
But dumplings are pretty much it. They come boiled or steamed, 18 per order, ranging from 7 to 14 bucks.
The helpful cashier-waitress recommended the pork and seafood and lamb coriander.
Not feeling like lamb, I got the beef coriander, boiled, and the pork and seafood, steamed.
WARNING:
It takes 25 minutes for the prep and cooking.
But I think it was well worth the wait.
I am no expert on soup dumplings but BOY did these taste good.
And she did warn me about biting into these succulent bits "because there's soup inside."
Juicy explosions abound!
The beef and coriander were fab, though I am prejudiced since I love coriander.
The pork ones were okay, with a little half of a shrimp and a faint ginger taste.
I preferred the boiled: brings out the doughyness which I also love.
Not sure if soup dumplings are supposed to be like that, but they were similar to what I've eaten in NYC.
BUT they looked like regular, oblong dumplings, thick wrapper, crimped along the top.
Are they supposed to look like little, round, thick-wrapped dumplings with twisted tops? I've seen and eaten both.
No matter:I gobbled them up.
Dumplings are their speciality, handmade they say, but I spied two tables snarfing down beef on huge bones, like the pork ones I've eaten at Lao Beijing. And they even had the requisite plastic gloves. When I queried, the gal says it's on the menu under "Salads"(?!?!) which is all in Chinese by the way. (More on that later) It's 6th on the list. And when I mentioned I'd eaten something similar on Cote-des-Neiges, she said straightaway, "Oh, Lao Beijing!"
The menu is in Chinese and English, except for several items (like the Salads section that includes those yummy looking meaty bones). So next visit, I'll ask for translations!
They also had some lovely tea, herbal like, which the kind miss told me was sunflower. I thought maybe Chrysanthemum, it was faintly similar.
Hoping soup dumpling expert hounds can report on this place, and if it rates, encourage them!

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    moh RE: chilipepper Jan 23, 2009 05:50 AM

    YAY! I love soup dumplings!

    I am certainly to indulge soon.

    I would say that your description concerns me a little bit. My favorite soup dumplings have a very thin wrapper, so thin that you think you will break them when you touch them, but they have a surprising resiliency and a wonderful texture. So delicate. Also, I like the really fatty soups inside the dumpling. Now if these taste good, of course I'll forgive the thickness of the skin and eat them happily. But I'll keep on searching for the really thin skinned ones, they really are works of art, takes the hand of a master to get such perfect skins.

    Thanks Chilipepper! I can't wait to try this place out! I have to say that the Chinese food scene is really looking up these days. Maybe it is just that I am paying attention more, but it is getting easier and easier to get a great Chinese meal in Montreal. It does seem the Concordia ghetto is the up and coming place for good, interesting, inexpensive Asian food.

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      moh RE: moh Jan 26, 2009 03:28 PM

      Dang! Tried to go today, and it was closed! Monday - not a good day to go out for food... at least for lunch.

      I don't even know if they are open for lunch! No sign on the door, nothing to indicate when they were open. Anyone know? Chilipepper? Any clues?

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      jarschef RE: chilipepper Jan 26, 2009 01:53 PM

      I would love to try this place out. What is is called? What is the address?
      Thanks.

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        eat2much RE: jarschef Jan 26, 2009 04:18 PM

        It was closed on Sunday as well. No hours posted on the door.

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          moh RE: eat2much Jan 26, 2009 08:25 PM

          Doh! Wait a second, it is Chinese new year, perhaps they are taking some holiday?

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            chilipepper RE: moh Jan 30, 2009 08:36 PM

            They were probably closed for the Chinese New Year - some places in that area took the day or days off (like Resto du Bonheur or whatever it's called on St. Mathieu).
            The woman told me they were open every day from 11 to 11.
            1240 St. Marc corner Tupper in the basement on the west side
            438-288-5366

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              BLM RE: chilipepper Jan 30, 2009 09:11 PM

              Pho Lien restaurant on CDN is also closed for the Lunar New Year(tried to go there about a week ago).

      2. blond_america RE: chilipepper Jan 31, 2009 06:43 PM

        Went there today and had three kinds of dumplings: lamb with coriander, pork and anise, and pork and seafood. All three were delicious but if i was forced to pick a favorite it would be the lamb.

        To balance our meal with a healthier choice we had the beef salad. I have to admit that i never thought eating healthy would be so good. It was a heaping plate of beef strips. The beef had some tendon/cartilage/sinew (not sure exactly what it was) on some of the pieces that made it more delicious.

        Finally we got a real salad of cabbage and carrots. The salad tasted of sesame oil and was a nice addition to the meal.

        When we asked whether they had xiao long bao the lady said no but that all the dumplings they served were similar in that they had soup inside. We never did get around to asking what the difference between what she serves and XLB is. This was only my second taste of soup dumplings but i enjoyed them. Both times the skin was pretty thick though and i'm curious to try the thin skinned ones!

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          SnackHappy RE: blond_america Jan 31, 2009 07:41 PM

          That beef salad was something else. It's cooked to the point where all the collagen is turned to soft gooey deliciousness, and the meat just melts in your mouth. It tasted like it had been rubbed with soy sauce and a few spices. It was pure beefy goodness. I really liked the pork and anise dumplings, as well. The hint of star anise really enhanced the pork flavour.

          Everything we sampled was tasty and the service was so friendly and helpful. I'm sure I'll be going back as soon as I can to continue eating my way through their menu.

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            moh RE: blond_america Feb 15, 2009 09:30 AM

            Blond_america, I think we also ordered the cabbage and carrot salad. It came with accents of fresh coriander, and cellophane noodles. It was very refreshing, and made a nice addition to our meal, as you say. You can only eat so many dumplings. I really love this salad.

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              celfie RE: moh Feb 15, 2009 09:33 AM

              I also fail to see how a heaping plate of beef strips is the healthy choice lol

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                bigfellow RE: celfie Feb 16, 2009 06:44 AM

                You obviously haven`t lived in Alberta. lol

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                  poutineguy RE: celfie Jun 5, 2010 08:46 AM

                  Off-topic, but fitness-heads prefer beef, as a source of carb-free protein.

            2. mainsqueeze RE: chilipepper Feb 9, 2009 07:02 AM

              I've been to Qing Hua a couple of times now, and I highly recommend it. Last time we ordered the shrimp, zuchinni and egg boiled dumplings and they were fresh and delicious. The lamb and coriander ones have slurpalicious soup inside and are juicy and comforting. We also had a "green bean pudding" salad with cucumber and peanut sauce, which was cool and refreshing. The service was very friendly and helpful but a little slow. Over my lunch hour I'd prefer it to be a bit quicker. I love this place though and will definitely be going back often.

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                celfie RE: mainsqueeze Feb 9, 2009 06:13 PM

                where is it exactly? i tried looking for it and didnt ifnd it

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                  emerilcantcook RE: celfie Feb 9, 2009 06:42 PM

                  chilipepper says:

                  <1240 St. Marc corner Tupper >

                  It is kind of hidden. If I remember, the signage was in Chinese, so that complicates things further. First time we tried to locate it, we almost gave up and went back.

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                    celfie RE: emerilcantcook Feb 9, 2009 06:56 PM

                    oh my bad
                    thank you!

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                  BLM RE: mainsqueeze Feb 10, 2009 03:30 PM

                  You get these dumplings steamed or boiled?

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                    mainsqueeze RE: BLM Feb 10, 2009 05:10 PM

                    Either way - your choice.

                    I asked today and the woman told me pan fried dumplings would be available in the summer time.

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                      BLM RE: mainsqueeze Feb 11, 2009 11:05 AM

                      I'm asking what do you usually choose?

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                        mainsqueeze RE: BLM Feb 11, 2009 11:10 AM

                        Oh, well the lady suggested we get the lamb ones steamed, so we did that. When I had the pork and mushroom ones I had them steamed as well.

                        We tried the pork and seafood ones boiled, as well as the shrimp, egg and zucchini ones.

                        Really it comes down to your personal preference I guess. The boiled ones come out kind of slippery and after sitting for a couple of minutes they develop a starchy film on the outside,

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                        jarschef RE: mainsqueeze Feb 12, 2009 03:34 PM

                        just an update:
                        i tried it last night. great dumplings but i found there wasn't enough variation of ingredients. while there were alot of choices, they were all very similar. they also had no beef last night which was a let down. the portion size of 14 or so dumplings is a bit much so i asked for a half order and she gladly did it for us.
                        also, the table next to us had fried dumplings which looked delicious and on the way out she told us we could order them fried next time! so looks like we won't have to wait until summer....

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                          mainsqueeze RE: jarschef Feb 12, 2009 04:17 PM

                          Interesting. I asked specifically and she definitely told me summer.

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                            BLM RE: mainsqueeze Feb 12, 2009 05:57 PM

                            That's what I also heard.

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                    emerilcantcook RE: chilipepper Feb 10, 2009 09:42 AM

                    I finally tried the dumplings. Nice, very nice. They ain't the Xiaolongbao types that moh was looking for, the construction is very different. These have thicker wrappings, are flatter and have a higher meat/soup ratio; still they are juicy and soupy and the filling meat is tasty. I ordered the lamb coriander as it was recommended, and they had a nice balance of flavors and textures. Not the cheapest item in their menu, but lamb ain't cheap. My only beef is that my takeout order didn't come with any dipping sauce; not sure whether they forgot, or these babies don't come with sauce at all. Thankfully, the dumplings were tasty and juicy enough to survive without any adulteration. I'll definitely be back. Nice peeps too.

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                      mainsqueeze RE: emerilcantcook Feb 10, 2009 11:03 AM

                      I think I might have seen you walk up St. Marc with your takeout order around 1:15 when I was heading there. Is that possible?

                      There was a guy getting take-out when I was there and he got sauce! I think you just have to ask for it.

                      Today I tried the "tofu and vegetable" soup which is very much like miso soup. I also had pork and mushroom steamed dumplings which had a nice strong black mushroom flavour. Very satisfying.

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                        emerilcantcook RE: mainsqueeze Feb 10, 2009 11:22 AM

                        Ooops, outed :) Time stamp is correct. That should be me.

                        Next time you see me, please intrude so we can share the bounty :). And, thanks for the heads up regarding the sauce. I'll remember to ask for it with my next order.

                    2. spankyhorowitz RE: chilipepper Feb 11, 2009 08:04 AM

                      What is the name and telephone #?

                      Can take-away orders be placed on the phone in advance?

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                        mainsqueeze RE: spankyhorowitz Feb 11, 2009 08:51 AM

                        From the card it is hard to tell what the place is actually called. There are Chinese characters and the only English on it is "Soup Dumpling".

                        The phone number is (438) 288-5366. I believe you can phone in orders.

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                          anachemia RE: mainsqueeze Apr 15, 2009 07:19 AM

                          Anyone who's gotten take-out from Qing Hua - I have a couple of questions...

                          First, if you order different types of dumplings, do they separate them into different boxes? I know when I ordered in person, everything arrived on a single plate, all mixed together.

                          How sturdy / mess-proof are the take-out containers?

                          How much transport time before the dumplings start to lose their deliciousness and get gloppy?

                          Thanks in advance!

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                            bigfellow RE: anachemia Apr 15, 2009 07:23 AM

                            I get takeout a lot. I live 10 minutes walk away.
                            The take out container is your standard white square styrofoam container, with one compartment. They tend to put each order of dumplings into their own container. But if you order 1/2 of one type and 1/2 of another. It will go into one container.

                            I reheated them and had them the next morning with no noticable quality loss.

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                              emerilcantcook RE: bigfellow Apr 15, 2009 07:39 AM

                              When I wanted to takeout the lamb dumplings, the lady asked me how far I work and suggested that I shouldn't get another one if I work more than 10 minutes away. But I think she wasn't thinking about reheating.

                              They were still hot when I open the container, but I think my office is 3-4 minutes from the resto. However, even that distance ruined their fresh noodles and made them a gloppy mess.

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                        bigfellow RE: chilipepper Feb 11, 2009 11:26 AM

                        I tried it last night...it was a little bit of heaven!!!! Haven`t had dumplings soooo good since I lived in Vancouver or Hong Kong!!!!
                        Thank you for pointing it out!

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                          moh RE: chilipepper Feb 14, 2009 08:36 AM

                          Yay for Chilipepper! This place rocks!

                          They do indeed serve soup dumplings, although they are different from the ones I've had in the past. I am very fond of thin skinned dumplings, and these are not them. But I also mentioned I'd happily eat them if they were tasty, thin skin or not. They are definitely tasty!

                          The dough is indeed made on site, we saw a young gentleman rolling out fresh dumplings when we were there. The skins are quite thick. The flavour and texture of the dough is somewhat rustic, but delicious. These dumplings have a very home-made flavour, there is something very satisfying about them. We tried the pork and cabbage dumplings, and the lamb and coriander. The pork and cabbage dumplings blew me away. The filling is very yummy, and the soup broth is rich and savoury. There is a larga, adequate amount of soup in these dumplings (a failing of my own home-made dumplings hss always been not enough broth, very sad). The lamb and coriander dumplings were also wonderful, and my scarfing down of these dumplings is a testament to how good they are. I don't usually like the flavour of coriander that much, but the coriander in these dumplings added a fresh herbal accent to the delicate lamb flavour, and I really enjoyed them despite the taste of coriander.

                          I love the sauce bar and the fact that you can mix and match sauces to your own taste. I took one bowl with the hot chile oil, and one bowl of black vinegar with a splash of sesame oil. i would pick up a dumpling, roll it in the black vinegar and sesame oil mix, then roll it in the chile oil, take a small bite out of the top, slurp out the broth (taking care not to burn my mouth), then dip the open bite into more chile oil. The chili oil gets progressively diluted by broth from the dumpling. Can I tell you that I was in heaven?

                          Don't wear any clothes you don't want to ruin. My friend and I were squirting soup broth and splashing sauce all over the place. They are slippery little buggers...

                          This place is a real find. There are very few restaurants (if any) serving up this kind of product here in Montreal, these dumplings are very unique and very delicious. This place is not a fast stop, but boy, these dumplings are worth the wait.

                          Now I do encourage others to try to find the other more delicate type of soup dumpling with the paper thin skin, they are a work of art. But these dumplings are the kind of thing my mother would make if she were from a Southern Chinese province... Homey goodness in dough...

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                            bopuc RE: moh Feb 14, 2009 08:46 AM

                            that does it. cannot resist any longer. going today. :)

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                              bopuc RE: bopuc Feb 14, 2009 10:31 AM

                              One word: OMNOMNOMNOM.
                              SO good.

                              Oh and um, they are onto us. "Oh that website?" she said. ;)

                              Oh and also there was mention of "magic noodle" coming soon.
                              (magic noodle, if I understood correctly, referred to that technique where you start with a single pull of dough and stretch and twist and stretch and twist between the fingers to make a bunch of noodles.)

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                                mainsqueeze RE: bopuc Feb 14, 2009 12:33 PM

                                We were there around 3:00 today and an older gentleman was there making noodles. When he finished the staff were tasting them and they offered some for us to try, topped with the condiments that usually accompany the dumplings. They were delicious!!! The woman told us they will be serving them in a soup with beef. Can't wait to try that!

                                We also gave the pork bone salad a shot. Delectable!

                                Also, I asked her again about the pan fried dumplings and she insisted they aren't serving that until summer.

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                                  bopuc RE: mainsqueeze Feb 14, 2009 12:51 PM

                                  oh drat that makes sense: the way it was mentioned, I sorta got the sense it was mentioned because they were all excited about making some today... I missed this by about an hour. ack!

                                  hey nothing stopping me from going back for dinner right hehehe ;)

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                                    jarschef RE: mainsqueeze Feb 14, 2009 02:38 PM

                                    strange.
                                    i saw a table of people eating them and when i left she offered them on our next visit (i didnt ask.).
                                    specifically "you can order them fried on your next visit".

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                                      mainsqueeze RE: jarschef Feb 14, 2009 05:12 PM

                                      Her English and French aren't perfect so there must be some miscommunication. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens next time you try to order them pan fried.

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                                    moh RE: bopuc Feb 15, 2009 09:35 AM

                                    Dang! I missed the noodles too!

                                    I had to go back yesterday, to get more dumplings. I saw the noodles on someone else's table, but by then we had already ordered way too much food. The noodles looked really good.

                                    I love this place, but I am spending a lot of time doing laundry and trying to get food stains off my clothes. It seems that no piece of clothing is immune when dumplings splash into the sauce dish. I am planning on making some kind of a safety suit for eating at this place, probably an entire suit made of plastic that I can slip in and out of, some kind of hazardous material outfit. I tell you, it is hard to get the chili oil out...

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                                      emerilcantcook RE: moh Feb 15, 2009 09:59 AM

                                      Someone should invent a disposable slippery noodle/dumpling bib. Or should we start carrying our own?

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                                  phedre RE: moh Feb 14, 2009 11:32 AM

                                  Yep, I was happy I wore black that day! They got stickier as they cooled down a bit, but damn when they're first cooked they are slippery little buggers.

                                  I definitey preferred the pork ones to the lamb, but both were delicious. Just make sure you allow lots of time, these little works of art take a while to come out of the kitchen. Totally worth the wait.

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                                    bopuc RE: moh Feb 19, 2009 06:25 PM

                                    Just came back from second visit, this time with a friend, so more sampling.
                                    We had:
                                    - The pork bowl (the pork "ribs" type dish mentioned here elsewhere, in chinese on the menu in the salad section.)
                                    - The "magic noodle" beef noodle soup. (handwritten note on the wall "new, now available, beef noodle)
                                    - The Steamed Lamb and Coriander dumplings

                                    The pork bowl: Served warm. Must be the animal's spine or something based on the vertebrae-like bones we were sucking the amazingly tender and tasty meat and tendons from. A must have. They give you disposable plastic gloves to use. (We didn't)

                                    The beef noodle soup. So the magic about the noodle is that it is one really long noodle, pulled from a ball of dough (that's the production technique). The noodle is freshly made on site. And you can taste it. The broth is rich and flavorful, little cubes of sinewy but tender beef (like the pork in above) are excellent, and slices of fresh daikon (or some other similar root) were crunchy. An excellent bowl of beef noodle soup. Bravo!

                                    Lamb and coriander soup dumplings (steamed). My system must have been in overload at this point because while these were just as good as the pork ones I had last week, they weren't remarkably more flavorful or amazing. Still very good, but not worth the extra cost. I ended up dipping them in the leftover sauce from the pork bowl. yummmm hehehe.

                                    The service was again super friendly and helpful and fun. Whoever said the waitress' english isn't so good must not have been trying very hard as she is perfectly fluent. (or hmmm yeah maybe got served by someone else... entirely possible.)

                                    Love this place. But next time I have to go try Cuisine Szechuan!

                                  2. bopuc RE: chilipepper Feb 14, 2009 04:17 PM

                                    Some interesting reference materials:
                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiaozi
                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiaolongbao
                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baozi

                                    What I learnt from this:
                                    These dumplings seem to have a connection to the Mandarin chinese side, and follows its Northern and South-Western regionality.
                                    Dim-sum's steamed dumplings (gauu) would be it's culinary Cantonese counterpart (though not cultural connections to new year's special, etc
                                    )Xiaolong bao are different, and considered a form of bao (buns), and are often tied to Shanghai's cultural heritage.
                                    Wanton are another thing again. But that's obvious. :)

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                                      1sweetpea RE: bopuc Mar 18, 2009 01:43 PM

                                      Based on my 6 weeks spent in China a few years ago, I'd say that the dumplings described by diners sound like Jiaozi. It so happens that there's liquid inside them, but I suspect the server was a bit misleading in describing it as soup. The Xiaolongbao of Shanghai fame are the soup dumplings. They have gelatinized soup mixed into the filling, so that when steamed, it liquidifies and becomes a slurp of soup encased in the dumpling skin, along with the meat. Baozi are delicious, but are more like a dim sum steamed bun than a dumpling. They can be purchsed by the steamer basket or singly, if really large.

                                      In Beijing, we sought out dumpling places and found the jiaozi situation to be pretty much as described on this board. Many dumplings had similar fillings and thus, weren't that different in taste from one to the next. The exception to that rule was undoubtedly lamb and coriander, which explodes with flavour. Pork with cabbage is also good. We were surprisingly disappointed with the various chicken and seafood varieties. They were largely indistinguishable from one another. Interestingly, the rest of the options in the dumpling joints of Beijing included a variety of appetizer-sized plates of salad items, which could be pig stomach, tripe, bamboo, seaweed, soybeans or a variety of delicious vegetable combinations. They were worth exploring. The bone soups were also popular, though I don't recall trying one.

                                    2. carswell RE: chilipepper Feb 17, 2009 07:15 PM

                                      Just back from a first visit. The boiled pork and napa cabbage dumplings were homey and comforting. The boiled pork and "seafood" dumplings were lighter, the flavour brightened by a generous dose of green onion; the shimp (the only seafood in evidence) seemed to be high quality. The steamed lamb and coriander dumplings were my favourite, all of the above descriptors plus real character. All showed a fine balance -- between the dough and the filling and between the components of the fillings -- and were perfectly cooked.

                                      The salads are small but inexpensive. The cucumber and jellyfish was sharp and refreshing. The green bean salad with cucumber and sesame paste dressing was enjoyable once we got over the shock that the "beans" were (we assume) ground mung beans used to make the gelatinous noodles the salad consisted of.

                                      Service was friendly and efficient.

                                      Qing Hua may not do much, but what it does it does really well. A great find.

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                                        mainsqueeze RE: carswell Feb 18, 2009 02:59 AM

                                        The woman serving us called it green bean pudding salad.

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                                          spankyhorowitz RE: mainsqueeze Feb 18, 2009 02:25 PM

                                          I can't wait to eat there!
                                          I just sent my wife to pick up her dinner there, but I am not downtown so I am missing out. . . .

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                                          bomobob RE: carswell Feb 20, 2009 09:03 AM

                                          Another first here, and not the last.

                                          The place was completely empty when we arrived last night, which was a bit worrying, so I do hope the word gets around. The staff were very nice and welcoming, and did a great job describing each item.

                                          We opted for the pork/anise dumplings, and since the woman working there insisted we have the special beef noodle, we couldn't refuse.

                                          After a few minutes, she motioned us over to the window to the kitchen to watch the noodle-making show. And a damn good show it was, as the chef started out with a log of dough, stretched it out, looped it around to double it, then did it again...and again, and again...until he had one amazingly thin continuous noodle about 100 feet long wrapped around his hands like a skein of wool.

                                          The soup with one noodle arrived first. The broth had that look of potency about it, but was actually just a beautiful beef base laced with a symphony of herbs. Notes of coriander, parsley, and onion, all perfectly harmonious. The noodle(s) was (were?) to die for. Perfect. Slightly al dente, with just the right addictive resilience to make you want to bite it as many times as possible. The beef itself was a bit of an afterthought, with just a few little cubes floating around, but that didn't matter.

                                          The dumplings. Oh my God, the dumplings. The wrappers were like something out of a noodle dream. Thick, perfect chewiness, yet velvety. A delicious slurp of broth in each one, and the filling was...was...oh God, just give me more. Tender ground pork in a wonderful herby, anise and green onion mixture. Every bite was sheer joy.

                                          By the time we were done, two more parties of two had come in, and both had ordered the "pork ribs", which the waitress explained was "really not ribs, but just various bones with some meat". Four people all making slurpy, yummy noises was enough to convince us to order that next time.

                                          The bill was 18 some odd, and the waitress refused to give us change for an extra 5 so that we could leave a good tip. "No no no, please...next time, OK?"

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                                            bopuc RE: bomobob Feb 20, 2009 09:18 AM

                                            I figured you were a chower. If you're who I think you are, I was the guy at the table behind you. ;)
                                            Definitely have the pork bowl next time.

                                            haha at this rate the odds that you don't bump into someone from this board at this place are dropping!

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                                              bomobob RE: bopuc Feb 20, 2009 10:30 AM

                                              HA! I knew it. When I heard you mention the steamed lamb and coriander dumplings, it was a dead giveaway.

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                                                bopuc RE: bomobob Feb 20, 2009 11:49 AM

                                                Henceforth the ChowHound Montreal secret recognizer passphrase is "I hear the lamb and coriander dumplings are excellent." ;)

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                                                  xIcewind RE: bopuc Apr 5, 2009 11:16 AM

                                                  Funny. I was reading this thread last night, planning to go to Qing Hua today, and this post jumped out at me.

                                                  Lo and behold, as I was waiting for my takeout order, the couple that I was sharing a table with said that exact same phrase, as well as something about the "magic noodle soup".

                                                  It really should be the passphrase.

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                                              SnackHappy RE: bomobob Feb 20, 2009 02:19 PM

                                              We had the beef noodle soup today for lunch, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. The broth was great, but the noodles were fantastic. The texture was just as you described. I'm already craving another bowl.

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                                                bigfellow RE: SnackHappy Feb 20, 2009 02:48 PM

                                                I had the dumplings (lamb, corinder) tonight to go.

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                                                  bopuc RE: SnackHappy Feb 22, 2009 04:59 PM

                                                  There's something about this place that just makes me so happy.
                                                  Today it was pork and anise dumplings, steamed. :)

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                                                    bomobob RE: bopuc Feb 23, 2009 12:22 PM

                                                    Weren't they just wonderful?

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                                              bigfellow RE: chilipepper Feb 23, 2009 12:25 PM

                                              I find myself going there for dumplings at lunch 3 or 4 times a week. They are just sooooo scrumptious!

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                                                bopuc RE: bigfellow Feb 24, 2009 09:14 AM

                                                This is getting out of hand isn't it? I'm considering going tonight, tomorrow and the day after (have dinner dates with friends... want to show them all...)

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                                                  anachemia RE: bopuc Feb 24, 2009 09:56 AM

                                                  I'm heading over for a late lunch myself (first timer). Can't wait!

                                                  Don't worry, I'll be nice and leave a few dumplings for you & your friends... ;-)

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                                                    anachemia RE: anachemia Feb 24, 2009 07:05 PM

                                                    OMG this place ROCKS!!

                                                    We tried 2 half-orders of dumplings (pork/cabbage and lamb) and the magic noodle soup. Knowing the dumplings and soup might take a while, we also ordered the beef salad to tide us over during the wait. This dish was a bit disapointing, because the collagen was tough and chewy, making it quite hard to swallow. But I liked the flavour very much. Took most of it home to soften up in some soup broth.

                                                    The dumplings...amazing of course. The 2 half-orders seemed to be interspersed on the plate, which was fine cuz they were both delicious. Hubby has a strong dislike for both lamb and coriander, but slurped them up with relish. Next time I want to try the pork & laver (one of my favorite ingredients).

                                                    And the noodle - what hasn't been said about that? The noodle maker guy invited us over to the window to watch the show - fun and impressive! Never seen dough behave itself so obediently; this guy knows what he's doing! And the resulting noodle's texture and flavour were both perfect. (It feels wrong referring to such a massive bowlful as a single noodle - beware, it's lots of food!)

                                                    We were alone in the place and were served by 3 different people, all of whom were friendly and kind, even with a small language barrier (rather endearing if you ask me). Overall the food was quite a bit too much for 2 people, so we took home a bit of everything as leftovers. Even the noodle was way too good to leave over - even though we were warned that it has a quick shelf life, it tasted decent to me, several hours later.

                                                    I will surely end up there again by the end of the week - and then it's all dumplings! (even though I loved the noodle.) I think 2 ppl could eat well on a single order of 18 dumplings.

                                                    Thanks to all who commented on this place - I would never have found out about it otherwise!

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                                                      bopuc RE: anachemia Feb 25, 2009 06:28 AM

                                                      they do half orders?! *gaaah this will be the ruin of me!*

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                                                        blond_america RE: bopuc Feb 25, 2009 07:46 AM

                                                        Not sure if you can order just a half order but we've definitely split a single order between two kinds of dumplings. Like 9 pork and cabbage and 9 lamb and coriander or something along those lines.

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                                                          bopuc RE: blond_america Feb 25, 2009 07:48 AM

                                                          ah right right got that, i wasn't clear in my enthusiastic response. thanks for making sure though. :)

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                                                            anachemia RE: bopuc Feb 25, 2009 01:16 PM

                                                            I think they can do just a single half-order too...or at least odd numbers of halves. We started out ordering 3 halvsies (pork/cabbage, pork/laver, lamb) and were advised it would be too much food!

                                                            Otherwise there was no objection...they seem pretty accommodating in general. I bet they'd do it.

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                                                              bopuc RE: anachemia Feb 25, 2009 01:32 PM

                                                              "Um, I'll have one of each please!" ;)
                                                              (kiiidding)

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                                                janetmweiss RE: chilipepper Feb 27, 2009 09:19 PM

                                                Oh, WOW.

                                                I just went for the first time tonight. It was my birthday and I was looking for a low key place to go with a not-too-adventurous close friend. I've been wanting to try out Cuisine Szechuan, but I wasn't so sure how that would go over with her so I was kind of stumped and then I remembered this thread!

                                                I pitched the idea to her and off we went. She almost chickened out at the last second though after she got a look inside but I dragged her in and I think we're both glad I did. We split a plate of pork-and-mushroom and lamb-and-coriander dumplings (of course) and I made the brilliant and yet ridiculous move of also ordering the beef noodle soup. Brilliant because the soup was awesome: the noodles were lovely, the broth was fragrant with just a bit of spice and lots of yummy citrus flavour from the slices of lime floating in it, and the beef tasted--for lack of a better description--so incredibly *like beef.* I don't know how to explain it. It was precisely the thing my just-getting-over-my-second-cold-of-the-winter self needed.

                                                HOWEVER. It was also an incredibly stupid choice because I spent so much time on the soup that my friend got to decimate the platter of dumplings while I was occupied :D The ones I did have were amazing though. I was pretty much popping them in my mouth whole just to feel the awesome explosion of soup.

                                                But I'll know for next time: either I make sure my dining companion is having soup too or I get a whooooole plate of dumplings to myself *evil grin* I'm already trying to think of people I owe dinner dates to so I can drag 'em over there.

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                                                  celfie RE: janetmweiss Feb 28, 2009 08:05 AM

                                                  just so you know I have brought unadventurous vegetarians to CS and they were blown away. the menu is ripe with canadian standards done better than anywhere else.

                                                2. mainsqueeze RE: chilipepper Feb 28, 2009 06:03 PM

                                                  The pork and sour cabbage dumplings are amazing. They're only in Chinese on the menu.

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                                                    carswell RE: mainsqueeze Feb 28, 2009 06:27 PM

                                                    Thanks for the heads-up, mainsqueeze. Sour cabbage as in sauerkraut-like?

                                                    Have had major cravings for the noodle soup since my one and only encounter with it last week. (They're happy to divide it among several patrons, by the way.) The star anised pork dumplings are exquisite. The egg-shrimp dumplings fresh and light. The garlicy cabbage salad was perfect enough that I wish we'd ordered two.

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                                                      mainsqueeze RE: carswell Mar 1, 2009 09:46 AM

                                                      Actually I think she called it "sour vegetable" and we deduced it was cabbage. I don't really know for sure how it's prepared. It gives a nice sour and crunchy bite to the dumplings.

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                                                        bopuc RE: mainsqueeze Mar 1, 2009 10:51 AM

                                                        yeah that's how she described i tto me too "chinese vegetable, it's sour." I'm going now and planning on ordering it actually.

                                                  2. bopuc RE: chilipepper Mar 1, 2009 01:01 PM

                                                    Another menu report:
                                                    I got there around 3pm on a Sunday afternoon. The last table of the late lunch crowd left an dI was alone for the rest of the hour I was there.

                                                    They had *sold out of all dumplings*, except for the Egg, shrimp and leek ones and the Lamb & coriander one (go figure?). So I had those. Marvelous, truly. Yum. :)

                                                    They had also sold out of all salads except their potato salad. So I had that.
                                                    A friend had told me that the potato salad seemed raw (uncooked potatoes). When I asked, I was told that no, they are flash cooked then flashed into cold water before grating into long thing strands. It was very yummy, dripping in a light chili oil and perhaps vinegar vinaigrette.

                                                    Voila. Very happy sunday linner. :)

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                                                      bigfellow RE: chilipepper Mar 16, 2009 03:45 PM

                                                      Okay, so I had the munchies this afternoon and was in the area.....Lamb and coriander....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm so good. I took an order of pork and anise dumplings home for late tonight.
                                                      Thank you to chillipepper for the original recommendation!

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                                                        FoodNovice RE: bigfellow Mar 26, 2009 08:30 PM

                                                        Finally made it last night after a first weekday lunch attempt was foiled when it was closed. Got the lamb and coriander, magic beef noodle soup and cucumber salad. All were fantastic and I'm already itching to go back.

                                                        The service was friendly but chaotic. We were served the salad, then the dumplings. When I inquired about the sauce, the waitress grunted and pointed towards the tray with a pile of small bowls, bottle of soy sauce and the giant pot of chili sauce. When the chef brought the single bowl of noodle soup, he informed us that we should have started with the soup. As if someone could wait and not start on the dumplings. After seeing us stare at the single bowl of soup, he brought another bowl. Seeing us struggle to divide the soup into two portions, he finally returned with a large pair of scissors to finally tackle the huge portion of noodles.

                                                        For those who have gone at lunch, is it open every day? and how long would a normal lunch-time meal take? Service, while chaotic, went pretty fast at night.

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                                                          blond_america RE: FoodNovice Mar 27, 2009 07:24 AM

                                                          I absolutely love this place but as far as lunch goes it's a bit of a stretch to fit into one hour. However you can call ahead and she will make your order for whatever time you want and in that case, in my experience, it's not a problem.

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                                                            FoodNovice RE: blond_america Mar 27, 2009 04:23 PM

                                                            Thanks for the suggestion.

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                                                              Alyson777 RE: blond_america Apr 16, 2009 09:10 AM

                                                              I went to this restaurant last night after a friend who is a food critic for the Montreal Mirror recommended it. I had the worst meal. The service was terrible and they never warned us that it takes 25 min to make dumpling. The waiter did not speak English very well and could not explain the menu. The menu was in Chinese and the only written part in English said PORK , BEEF .. it did not explain if the dumplings come steamed or fried or boiled

                                                              I ordered the beef noodle soup. The soup has no taste and I had to add my own flavors to it. The noodles were Wayyy over cooked and soggy. I travel to Asia 2x a year for work and I am very familiar with soup dumplings. . The dumplings were ok. However I do not recomend the beef noodle soup.

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                                                                moh RE: Alyson777 Apr 16, 2009 08:40 PM

                                                                Well, if you are used to the more delicate soup dumplings, these are not them. But the dumplings have a real homemade taste that is so rare to find in a resto. This is certainly not haute cuisine.

                                                                The beef noodle does suffer from variability. Sometimes is is the most ethereal dish, and other times it is very meh. I'm willing to take the roulette aspect for those ethereal moments.

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                                                                  Alyson777 RE: moh Apr 17, 2009 07:02 AM

                                                                  I will give it a second try... I think for your first time its better to go with someone who knows...

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                                                                    bigfellow RE: Alyson777 Apr 17, 2009 07:34 AM

                                                                    A bunch of us (15 or so) from the site are going tomorrow at 2:00pm, you are welcome to join us.

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                                                              SnackHappy RE: FoodNovice Mar 27, 2009 06:08 PM

                                                              I'm pretty sure it's open every day, but it only opens at noon.

                                                          2. bopuc RE: chilipepper Mar 23, 2009 02:00 PM

                                                            I went by yesterday (I had been out of town and jonesing for some). Sunday mid afternoon. Tables full. Had Beef+Onion and Pork+Shrimp. Super yummy as usual.

                                                            However... the dumplings seemed to have gotten a little bit smaller.
                                                            I am totally not complaining because this means a) they are easier to eat and b) you don't get as stuffed/opportunity to have more of something else (this is a good thing if you are dieting/going alone, as I am)

                                                            I figured I'd point out, see if anyone else noticed? I'm not shocked or dismayed by it (i prefer smaller portions than drop in quality as a margin-expanding strategy), but others may be.

                                                            OR I may be wrong. They just seemed to be a tad smaller to me...

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                                                              bigfellow RE: chilipepper Mar 28, 2009 04:32 PM

                                                              I'm a block away so I'm going to go and get some dumplings for dinner!

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                                                                bigfellow RE: chilipepper Apr 3, 2009 11:45 PM

                                                                went in after work about 8:45. Saw a table of 5 that I thought were chowhounders, but not. The word has gotten out!

                                                                I had an order of lamb coriander to go!

                                                                The best!

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                                                                  Plateaumaman RE: bigfellow Apr 5, 2009 12:10 PM

                                                                  Just wanted to add my voice to the chorus of approval over here. We are dumpling maniacs in my family and have been waiting for awhile for a good dumpling house to arrive here in Montreal. This certainly is it.

                                                                  We were encouraged by the staff to try the pulled noodles which was entertaining for the kids to watch and also delicious. We managed to share it between the 7 of us as an appetizer but I'll definitely go back for my own bowl one of these days. At least we still had room for the dumplings.

                                                                  Then we had the shrimp, zucchini and egg dumplings, really good and fresh. And also the lamb and coriander since you guys are so enthusiastic .. they really are delicious even though I'm not usually a fan of lamb that's steamed. And pork and cabbage which were nice for the kids (who passed on the lamb) but not as exciting as the first two orders for the grownups.

                                                                  One of my friends burnt her throat a bit when biting into a soupy lamb dumpling that was covered in chili oil. It squirted dangerously into her tonsils. Her voice returned in time for her to exclaim over the pork bone "salad" ie. a big bowl of pork bones, very tender and flavourful. They would be delicious in a ramen. We had another salad that was very good, seaweed and something.

                                                                  Considering how labour-intensive all these dishes are I was happy with the speed of the service and the sequence of the dishes. It will be fun to try the fried dumplings in the summer.

                                                                2. TheSnowpea RE: chilipepper Apr 5, 2009 02:19 PM

                                                                  We finally made our way there, and relying on this thread's recommendations, we ordered the cabbage and carrot salad, the beef soup, the lamb coriander dumplings and the pork and sour cabbage dumplings.

                                                                  The salad came first, featuring cabbage, just a few thread of carrot (alas), glass noodles and something yellow which I think was thinly sliced omelet. It was refreshing and tangy, with perhaps a hint of coriander. Not easy to share without creating a mess.

                                                                  Following was the beef noodle soup, which came with a second bowl and a pair of scissors without asking. Perhaps they are getting used to the gwailos sharing a soup LOL It was delicious, featuring a few slices of tender beef and a few baby bok choi leaves, a film of hot chili oil, with super long noodles in a good broth. Totally slurpalicious.

                                                                  Then came the pork and sour cabbage dumplings, which as promised were soupy and tender and a bit tangy from the cabbage. This was a new kind of dumpling for us, so I'm grateful to this board for introducing us to them!

                                                                  We loaded up on dipping sauces at the station near the cash, which consists of chili oil (not particularly hot), soy sauce and black vinegar, and went to town on that plate of dumplings (nothing like a 90 minute workout to open up the appetite!), which got scarfed down in possibly record time. The lamb and coriander dumplings arrived last and we just fell on them as well. They were my favourites and the feeling of hot broth exploding in your mouth is just so much fun! I quickly settled on the technique, surely not particularly original, of taking out a small bite, sucking out the broth, then dipping the dumpling in black vinegar and hot oil. Oh yum!

                                                                  When we paid up, the waitress asked where we were from (NDG), commenting that lots of new customers are coming from there. She also asked how I knew how to order the sour cabbage and pork dumplings (since, as we know, they aren't on the English menu) and I said I'd read about it on the internet.

                                                                  They are on to us :-)

                                                                  So, to repeat what all the others have said already: they are homey and comforting and utterly addictive.

                                                                  Next up will be Oui & Oui.

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                                                                    mammab RE: TheSnowpea Apr 5, 2009 03:15 PM

                                                                    My son picked up an order (lamb and corander and pork and cabbage!) about 2 hours before your post. They must find it strange indeed that "we" know about these dumplings! ;) BTW... deleesh!

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                                                                      bigfellow RE: TheSnowpea Apr 5, 2009 03:27 PM

                                                                      Oui & Oui will be on the list for next months chowmeet. FYI

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                                                                        TheSnowpea RE: bigfellow Apr 5, 2009 03:48 PM

                                                                        Cool beans! What date, roughly?

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                                                                          bigfellow RE: TheSnowpea Apr 5, 2009 03:56 PM

                                                                          It will be in May sometime.

                                                                    2. schtroumpf_gourmand RE: chilipepper Apr 10, 2009 10:29 PM

                                                                      Hey all! The location's kind of unusual, but here's a pic of the restaurant with context. We ate there last Wed, and it was as good as your reviews said.

                                                                       
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                                                                        tacotete RE: chilipepper Apr 15, 2009 04:26 PM

                                                                        This is EXCELLENT news! I have been looking for a long time for good soup dumplings in Montreal. Having moved here from Vancouver where there is a huge selection of dumpling places, may I add a bit of general knowledge for those who love dumplings?

                                                                        Firstly, soup dumplings are a Shanghai phenomenon. They are small steamed dumplings with a thin membrane and when you bite into them, they explode with soup. Watch your tongue as they can burn! They are traditionally made with porc filling but more expensive tastes can enjoy them with both porc and crab(actually it's the guts of the crabs). Both are heavenly. The Shanghainese people also have a delicious steamed, then fried dumpling called "Sun Jing Bao" which are a medium sized dumpling also filled with porc usually.

                                                                        The northern Chinese people enjoy several kinds of dumplings as well. The oblong ones are similar to "Gyoza" found in Japanese restaurants. Actually they are called "Jiao Dze" in Mandarine. They are traditionally boiled in water and the dough is a little bit thicker than above. The Cantonese people pan fry these dumplings and use a thinner dough which are known as "Goh Tieh"(pot stickers).
                                                                        There are, of course, tons of variations. I am looking forward to trying this out!

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                                                                          eat2much RE: tacotete Apr 15, 2009 04:49 PM

                                                                          My son and I are in Shanghai on a quest for the ultimate dumpling. The fried soup dumplings at Yang's Fried Dumpling are heaven on earth as are the crab soup dumplings found at numerous local dumpling haunts. I must however give credit where credit is due...the lamb & coriander dumplings at Qing Hua are as good as anything we've had here.

                                                                           
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                                                                            Mr F RE: tacotete Apr 16, 2009 07:44 AM

                                                                            "Firstly, soup dumplings are a Shanghai phenomenon. "

                                                                            Just so you're not disappointed, do not expect Shanghai-style dumplings from this restaurant. They look nothing like xiao long bao, and more closely resemble the description of northern Chinese dumplings in your third paragraph. (Thicker dough, boiled.)

                                                                            But they are very good. They remind me of dumplings a friend from Beijing used to make many years ago, though his were merely delicious, not soupy.

                                                                          2. Andria RE: chilipepper Apr 16, 2009 09:09 AM

                                                                            Going for lunch today... I hope they have the Magic noodle soup since they didn't make it the Monday I went.

                                                                            Here are a few photos from my last visit.

                                                                            1. Yummylicious RE: chilipepper Apr 16, 2009 05:37 PM

                                                                              Today's lunch will be forever memorable!
                                                                              I took all the suggestions from the Chowhounders on this thread and I can say that it clearly satisfied my cravings!
                                                                              The soup dumplings were tasteful, yet not too overpowering. The dumpling skin had just the right amount of thickness and the fillings were easily distinguished (Porc+anise/Lamb+coriander/Beef+Onion/Porc+Squid).
                                                                              The Magic Noodle Soup is clearly very "magical" -- I couldn't stop thinking about it throughout the rest of my day! I drooled as I was thinking about slurping the slippery, yet chewy noodles and sinking my teeth into the tasteful beef!
                                                                              Can't wait to go back!!

                                                                               
                                                                               
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                                                                                janetmweiss RE: chilipepper Apr 16, 2009 10:50 PM

                                                                                I just thought I should point out that Qing Hua Dumpling is this week's Mirror review. After reading the (VERY positive) review, it's only the fact that I was just there yesterday that's keeping me from dashing out the door hunting for dumplings.

                                                                                But yes, I was there on Wednesday, and I made a discovery. My friend and I arrived at 5:15 PM or so and I ordered soup and was told that there would be no magic noodles until 6! :( Oh well. The restaurant was pretty empty at the time, so my friend and I just waited until then (I NEEDED MY SOUP). Just a heads up, though, for anybody who stops by craving an early dinner of soup.

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                                                                                  bopuc RE: janetmweiss Apr 17, 2009 07:38 AM

                                                                                  it goes with the home-made aspect of the place. I showed up once at 3:30pm on a sunday and they had sold out of almost all dumplings and were in full swing making more for the evening shift.

                                                                                  I also showed up at 11:45am the other day to beat the lunch wave and though I was let in, the lights were out and the one staff member was like "er, you'll have to wait till the others show up" haha :)

                                                                                2. Chocolatesa RE: chilipepper Apr 17, 2009 10:01 AM

                                                                                  Wow this place sounds amazing! And it's good timing too, after reading Wan Yan Ling's description in her Snapshots of Asia column ( http://www.seriouseats.com/tags/Snaps... ) on Serious Eats of these and many other delicious asian foods I've been meaning to try a bunch of asian restaurants here in Montreal. I'll make sure to order the magic noodle soup, pork and sour cabbage dumplings and the beef salad if they have some when I go :D

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                                                                                    cherhag RE: Chocolatesa Apr 17, 2009 09:39 PM

                                                                                    Thank you guys for such a wonderfull find.Went there this wed while on vacation to Montreal,. The pork bone salad...is so tasty..(The plastic gloves make it even better!lol)and the dumplings are heaven......its all I could talk about the last few days. Wish we had them here in upstate NY!!!!! This was the best vacation ever thanks to chow hound members. I am so greatfull..no tourist traps..just yummy meals every day.

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                                                                                      Mei RE: cherhag Apr 18, 2009 01:16 AM

                                                                                      Regarding hours, which seem to be variable, if I attempt takeout at 7pm,on any given evening, can I reasonably expect to successfully order lamb dumplings and beef noodle?

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                                                                                        Andria RE: Mei Apr 18, 2009 07:27 AM

                                                                                        No beef noodles on Monday according to our waitress.

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                                                                                          Mei RE: Andria Apr 18, 2009 09:03 PM

                                                                                          Okay, good to know, thanks!

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                                                                                            Plateaumaman RE: Mei Apr 21, 2009 12:03 PM

                                                                                            We were there on Sunday and the noodle chef was ill, apparently, so no noodle soup. I was pretty disappointed. They did give us a choice of having our dumplings steamed or boiled this time .. we tried both and would choose boiled next time, nicer texture. Took ages to get our dumplings so we were pretty frantic by the time they arrived. I'd definitely try takeout next time, and order well in advance.

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                                                                                              emerilcantcook RE: Plateaumaman Apr 24, 2009 08:13 PM

                                                                                              Just a heads up for the noodle lovers. The noodle chef was still off today. I hope he'll get better soon. Not just because I like to have some noodles, but also he is a very nice guy.

                                                                                              If anyone gets to have some noodles in the near future, can you please report?

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                                                                                    Peekay RE: chilipepper Apr 22, 2009 12:33 PM

                                                                                    I stopped by there today based on the glowing reviews by others on Chowhound. I didn't realize how tiny and not to mention hot the place was. I ordered the beef salad and 1/2 an order of pork and sour cabbage and 1/2 an order of lamb and coriander. The beef salad came first and I was expecting a little more. The beef/collagen was chewy and the salad lacked falvour. It was almost balnd. I was expecting something a little more flavorfull and melt in your mouth texture.

                                                                                    My dumblings came next and were not that special. They waitress had made a mistake and ended up giving me all pork and cabbage dumplings. They were alright but nothing to glow about.

                                                                                    I plan on going there again to try there magic noddle soup and maybe the potatoe salad. I was a bit letdown because I was expecting so much.

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                                                                                      Alyson777 RE: Peekay Apr 22, 2009 12:47 PM

                                                                                      I don't understand how that noodle soup can be referred to as magic. I really wasn't the least bit impressed with anything on the menu. There are so many better soup places in Montreal. The noodles were very overcooked that it tasted mushy. The soup was bland and had no spice to it at all. I had to keep adding my own ingredients. If i wanted to make my own soup I would have gone to Mongolian Hot Pot. The dumplings were really nothing special. They should warn customers it take 25 min to make.

                                                                                      My boyfriend and I both ordered the beef noodle soup and Shrimp and pork dumplings.
                                                                                      They brought us someone elses beef noodle soup because another girl didnt want it. They only brought one beef soup. It took 20 min or so until i was able to get another waiters attention to ask where my soup was. They never placed the order. The dumplings came after 30 min without anyone coming to our table or any warning of the time it takes. Lets just say our experience was not what I expected after the "rave ' reviews on here.
                                                                                      We left hungry and walked up the street to BUNS the new burger joint. The hamburgers were cheap and delicious.

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                                                                                        SnackHappy RE: Alyson777 Apr 22, 2009 12:59 PM

                                                                                        "I don't understand how that noodle soup can be referred to as magic."

                                                                                        Magic noodle is the English name given to La Mian. Chinese hand-pulled noodles.
                                                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamian

                                                                                        I'm sorry you had such a bad time at Qing Hua. Perhaps your experience was a fluke or maybe it's just not your thing. I've had nothing but great meals there.

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                                                                                          bigfellow RE: SnackHappy Apr 22, 2009 03:03 PM

                                                                                          I've been there many times and I have nothing but praise for the food. But like everything else in life, they must have their bad days.
                                                                                          Or as SnackHappy said, maybe it just isn't your thing.

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                                                                                            Jaetee RE: bigfellow Apr 23, 2009 06:06 AM

                                                                                            I went last week for the first time, and I was also a bit disappointed. Maybe my expectations got hyped up from this board, or I couldn't help comparing to all the great dumpling places they have in Markham, Ontario.

                                                                                            From the heads up I got from this board, I wasn't expecting the fastest and friendliest service. When we walked in, there was 4 other people in there, and the lady standing at the cash just looked at me, without saying a word. I was hoping to give her a few seconds longer for her to say hi or how many, but I gave in and said "for 2". Without another word, she dropped the menu and walked away. My wife looked at me and said "I guess she really does not want to work here, eh?" I was like, just hang on, it will be all worth it when the food arrives! I knew with all the suggestions here, we had to try their La Mian and the pork and coriander dumplinig. There was another waiter who came to take our order, and gave us the heads up it will take 20 minutes. No problem. An hour after, we finally got our food! The original lady served us the food, again without any word. I have the say the noodle texture for the soup was good, but the dumpling was lacking in flavor. After we finished, I paid the lady and left her a tip. I Finally got a smile out of her! I knew she was not expecting much, but my mission was to get some king of emotion out of her, and my mission was accomplished! That was the best part of my meal. ; )

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                                                                                          BLM RE: Alyson777 Apr 24, 2009 09:43 AM

                                                                                          I agree with you, I haven't been impressed with anything on their menu. Tried Qing Hua Dumpling three times(seeing the constant praise), including several of their differnt dumplings & their beef noodle soup. So what if the dumplings are very unique to the city, & their noodles are hand-pulled in front of you, if it's not that good.

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                                                                                        bigfellow RE: chilipepper Apr 29, 2009 07:43 AM

                                                                                        So, I got held up doing my taxes last night and decided not to cook supper. I called and ordered some dumplings.
                                                                                        Well, the secret is out folks. When I went to pick them up, the place was packed (about 7pm). There was a young south asian couple from Vancouver waiting for a table. There was one table of chinese people (8). All the rest (about 16 people) were white. I guess now everyone knows about the dumplings.

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                                                                                          cherylmtl RE: bigfellow Apr 29, 2009 08:00 AM

                                                                                          It was reviewed (extremely favourably) in Saturday's La Presse, along with Cuisine Szechuan.

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                                                                                            mammab RE: cherylmtl Apr 29, 2009 11:50 AM

                                                                                            My son and his friend were there on the weekend. When they ordered the waitress asked them, "You from Chowhound?" Eat there now... the fun will end shortly.

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                                                                                          bigfellow RE: chilipepper May 9, 2009 03:08 PM

                                                                                          A good review in todays Gazette.

                                                                                          http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/f...

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                                                                                            BLM RE: bigfellow May 9, 2009 03:54 PM

                                                                                            When I immediately noticed when seeing this review online last night, was that Maeve Haldane is listed as a Gazette fine dining critic.

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                                                                                              bigfellow RE: BLM May 9, 2009 03:57 PM

                                                                                              Goosd Food = "Fine" Dining! LOL

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                                                                                                humbert RE: bigfellow May 9, 2009 05:18 PM

                                                                                                I like your new profile pic, big fellow.....

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                                                                                                  bigfellow RE: humbert May 9, 2009 05:20 PM

                                                                                                  I like brekkie...a lot!

                                                                                                  Thank you

                                                                                          2. ddmark RE: chilipepper May 11, 2009 09:24 PM

                                                                                            I went last weekend based on the glowing reviews found here. The place was very plain. The girl served us without a smile (like she didn't want to be there). I ordered their special meat noodle soup, pork and coriander dumplings (steamed) and shrimp dumpling (steamed). It took over 25 minutes to get the food (which I expected based on this board).

                                                                                            The $9 soup was good and I would recommend that you try it. The dumplings were nothing to rave about (I've had much better in Toronto). I was unimpressed with the restaurant set-up...the way they have the condiments laid out on the counter near the cash and the use of cafeteria type tables. I would have expected lower menu prices for this type of set-up and location (which is off Sainte-Catherine). I am a regular of Prosperity Dumplings in NYC (5 pork/chive dumplings for $1) and for the prices they charge...I was expecting better service and ambiance.

                                                                                            http://www.yelp.com/biz/prosperity-du...

                                                                                            Service was sub-par. No one came over to check on our table. Sorry I was just expecting more from this little place. I will have to return and give it another try as this dumpling place is unique in Montreal (and I just can't eat at those Soup and Noodle places anymore). Thanks for sharing this place....I will give it another try and report back.

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                                                                                              bigfellow RE: ddmark May 12, 2009 10:16 AM

                                                                                              You have never been to China I'd guess. But the service is much better in Toronto, you are right about that.
                                                                                              I think that everyone has to remember that this is just a neighbourhood hole-in-the-wall type of restaurant.

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                                                                                              blondee_47 RE: chilipepper May 14, 2009 10:28 AM

                                                                                              Yes it is a hole-in-the-wall place and one goes here JUST for the dumplings...incredibly fresh and delicious but not a place to dine and have a long 'lunch'. This place is scary good and they are so confident in their clientele that they allow us to mix our own sauce; which is the right way to be for a dumpling house.

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                                                                                                bigfellow RE: blondee_47 May 14, 2009 10:31 AM

                                                                                                You've hit the nail on the head!

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                                                                                                  humbert RE: bigfellow May 22, 2009 11:28 AM

                                                                                                  How many dumplings are in one order?

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                                                                                                    kpzoo RE: humbert May 22, 2009 11:43 AM

                                                                                                    Earlier posters mentioned 18 dumplings per order.

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                                                                                                      humbert RE: kpzoo May 22, 2009 12:11 PM

                                                                                                      Ok great thanks

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                                                                                                        mainsqueeze RE: humbert Jun 1, 2009 07:44 PM

                                                                                                        You get fewer if you order them steamed. 15 I think.

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                                                                                                bigfellow RE: chilipepper Jun 1, 2009 02:48 PM

                                                                                                I had a very late lunch, early supper at Qing Hua today. They open at 4 on Monday's. I got there at 4:30. I was amazed, because I was the only customer. I'll be eating supper at 9:30 - 10:00 tonight.

                                                                                                I had the pork/cabbage today. The dumplings were on my table 10 minutes after I ordered.

                                                                                                They sold me some uncooked dumplings to cook at home. I'll be freezing them for now. She told me that if I call in advance, she will freeze any orders that I want. Great news!!!!!!

                                                                                                Now the bad news. No fried dumplings yet.

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                                                                                                  davekry RE: bigfellow Jun 1, 2009 03:00 PM

                                                                                                  Are the raw dumplings the same price as the cooked ones?

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                                                                                                    bigfellow RE: davekry Jun 1, 2009 03:23 PM

                                                                                                    To be honest, I didn't notice.

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                                                                                                  emerilcantcook RE: chilipepper Jun 19, 2009 10:29 AM

                                                                                                  OK, are these dumplings getting smaller; or is it my appettite that is getting bigger?

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                                                                                                    bigfellow RE: emerilcantcook Jun 19, 2009 11:19 AM

                                                                                                    No, they're just very addictive!

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                                                                                                      bopuc RE: bigfellow Jun 19, 2009 02:16 PM

                                                                                                      no i think they did get smaller. I noticed back in March
                                                                                                      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5900...

                                                                                                      they are definitly smaller than they were when they first opened. but what do you expect? they had to gage their market and operating costs etc. I'm more than happy to have smaller dumplings rather than large ones with "cut-corner" lower quality fillings.

                                                                                                      a few things to note:
                                                                                                      - sometimes it's packed, sometimes it's empty. luck of the draw.
                                                                                                      - everyone I know knows about this place now, and not from me or chowhound.
                                                                                                      - to those complaining about the service: have you tried smiling at them? They are really really nice people (you are being served by the family that owns the place.) Also, if they really are cranky, imagine: they've been doing nothing but making dumplings and serving them all day. How would you feel? :

                                                                                                      )

                                                                                                      Has anyone tried the mackerel ones? I am always tempted but always chicken out (or rather, pork out.. and lamb out... and beef out... oohhhhh! :D

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                                                                                                        mainsqueeze RE: bopuc Jun 20, 2009 10:07 AM

                                                                                                        We've tried ordering the mackerel dumplings a couple of times but were told they didn't have any. Will try again next time.

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                                                                                                    blondee_47 RE: chilipepper Jun 20, 2009 04:45 PM

                                                                                                    Just came home from there and ya know after a certain amount of dumplings, the eating becomes boring and yes we had two dishes: steamed and boiled and a salad...still good but not as great as the first time.

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                                                                                                      bigfellow RE: chilipepper Jun 21, 2009 11:38 AM

                                                                                                      I was there on Friday and they made me some fried dumplings...oh so good.

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                                                                                                        mainsqueeze RE: bigfellow Jun 21, 2009 12:19 PM

                                                                                                        What kind?

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                                                                                                          bigfellow RE: mainsqueeze Jun 22, 2009 08:01 AM

                                                                                                          Pork and cabbage of course!!! Had the lamb and corriander the regular way also.

                                                                                                      2. SnackHappy RE: chilipepper Jun 22, 2009 06:50 PM

                                                                                                        We went tonight after not having been in a while. The dumplings were as delicious as ever. We were told by the young lady who runs the place that they will be closing in mid-July only to re-open at a new location in September. They'll be moving in to the old Bardeco location on Lincoln and will have an alcohol permit. In the meantime, she's going back to China to perfect her dumpling skillz.

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                                                                                                          moh RE: SnackHappy Jun 22, 2009 09:52 PM

                                                                                                          Goodness! thanks for the heads-up! I have also not been for a while, clearly need to fit in a trip soon...

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                                                                                                            bigfellow RE: SnackHappy Jul 2, 2009 03:06 PM

                                                                                                            I went tonight for the second time this week. 1/2 order of pork and cabbage and pork and mushroom. So good.

                                                                                                            They are closing at the end of this week. They will be in China for a month. The lady (wife and partner of the young man there) is visiting her family who has the same type of place in China. She was brought up making dumplings. She is looking for menu additions.

                                                                                                            The new store is the old pizza place at the corner of Lincoln and St Mathieu. They hope to open in September with fried dumplings, an expanded menu and much more space. They will also have a liquor licence.

                                                                                                            Get your fix while you still can!!!!

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                                                                                                              davekry RE: bigfellow Jul 2, 2009 05:17 PM

                                                                                                              That's it. I'm stocking up on several dozen frozen dumplings on Saturday to hold me over. I don't know how long I can go without that lamb and coriander...

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                                                                                                                bopuc RE: bigfellow Jul 2, 2009 07:22 PM

                                                                                                                while I am very happy for them, this is *devastating* news for me. I'm leaving Montreal September first. My girlfriend is arriving from Japan on friday night and she's been dying to try this place I have been going to so often.

                                                                                                                Bigfellow, when you say "end of this week", when exactly, do you know?

                                                                                                                ah, c'est la vie... ;)

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                                                                                                                  InterFoodie RE: bopuc Jul 2, 2009 07:42 PM

                                                                                                                  The story is that when they applied for the lease they told the landlord that they were going to have a depanneur with a few homemade items for take out.

                                                                                                                  Shortly after opening they received a visit by the city inspectors and were give a cease and desist writ as they were running a restaurant and not a depanneur as per their licensee /permit

                                                                                                                  I trust in their new spot all their permits will be in order

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                                                                                                                    mainsqueeze RE: InterFoodie Jul 3, 2009 06:19 AM

                                                                                                                    How do you know this?

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                                                                                                                      Shattered RE: mainsqueeze Jul 3, 2009 10:11 AM

                                                                                                                      Yeah, I'm calling major BS on that.

                                                                                                                      If that were true, they would've have been shuttered overnight within a few weeks at most. And no way would they get permits for a new place considering how much law-abiding owners get dicked around in this city... unless they've got some incriminating polaroids of Tremblay, haha.

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                                                                                                                    bigfellow RE: bopuc Jul 3, 2009 07:42 AM

                                                                                                                    I don't really know. Those were the exact words that they used with me. I would think Saturday or Sunday myself. But what do I know.

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                                                                                                                      bopuc RE: bigfellow Jul 3, 2009 07:44 AM

                                                                                                                      ok thx :)

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                                                                                                                        bopuc RE: bigfellow Jul 3, 2009 11:08 AM

                                                                                                                        not wanting to risk missing it, I went for lunch.
                                                                                                                        SUNDAY is the last day. (till september of course)

                                                                                                                        (hello! ;)

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                                                                                                                      afoodyear RE: bigfellow Aug 14, 2009 11:21 AM

                                                                                                                      Anyone have an update on this place, like when in September they're planning on opening, or if it's even still a go?

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                                                                                                                        bigfellow RE: afoodyear Aug 14, 2009 11:58 AM

                                                                                                                        It was my understanding that they wouldn't be back until the last week or so of August.

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                                                                                                                          mainsqueeze RE: afoodyear Aug 14, 2009 02:00 PM

                                                                                                                          I'm going to walk by there sometime soon to see if there is any sign of life.

                                                                                                                          I heard a rumor that the girl hasn't even left for China yet, but this could be heresay.

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                                                                                                                            bigfellow RE: mainsqueeze Aug 14, 2009 03:05 PM

                                                                                                                            I was at the restaurant the night before their last day. They were running around getting ready for the trip. I spent some time speaking with her and her husband. I haven't heard or talked to them since.

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                                                                                                                              bopuc RE: mainsqueeze Sep 2, 2009 04:21 PM

                                                                                                                              any signs yet? would love some dumplings :)

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                                                                                                                          carswell RE: SnackHappy Jul 4, 2009 10:17 PM

                                                                                                                          She says the new place will be more spacious (30-40 seats) and have a bigger kitchen, which will enable them to hire more staff, expand the menu (more appetizers especially) and do fried dumplings on a regular basis. Apparently her family has a dumpling resto in China, which is where she'll be honing her craft.

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                                                                                                                            Plateaumaman RE: carswell Jul 5, 2009 10:52 AM

                                                                                                                            That's something to look forward to!

                                                                                                                            If you are looking for dumplings in the meantime, we had a very nice meal made up primarily of juicy dumplings (their raviolis Chinois) at the Noodle Factory recently. Just a couple orders of har gow, 3 orders of juicy dumplings, a green onion pancake and some sticky rice, hit the spot well.

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                                                                                                                          moh RE: chilipepper Sep 2, 2009 06:54 PM

                                                                                                                          I have a friend who lives on the street that Qing Hua used to be on. Apparently, he had been receiving emails from various neighbours/neighbourhood organizations complaining about the restaurant, and finally saying they had been successful in their attempts to get the restaurant to move. I am wondering if this had something to do with them closing.

                                                                                                                          What a bummer. My friend is quite upset they closed, he really liked dropping by there for food. He was happy to hear they are planning to reopen.

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                                                                                                                            mak2k RE: moh Sep 3, 2009 07:21 AM

                                                                                                                            out of curiosity, what were they complaining about? It seems to be a standard hole in the wall restaurant which fits in with the area.

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                                                                                                                              SnackHappy RE: mak2k Sep 3, 2009 07:30 AM

                                                                                                                              Maybe they were like those Westmount ladies who wanted to shut down the McDonald's on Sherbrooke because it was going to bring in a "bad element" i.e. black people from NDG.

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                                                                                                                                cherylmtl RE: SnackHappy Sep 3, 2009 07:36 AM

                                                                                                                                SnackHappy, I think you're a bit misinformed on that one. That wasn't the issue at all, more like garbage piling up, double-parked and illegally parked cars, and very early morning deliveries disturbing the neighbours. Still a bit of a NIMBY issue, but not to do with a "bad element".

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                                                                                                                                  SnackHappy RE: cherylmtl Sep 3, 2009 08:45 AM

                                                                                                                                  I can't go much further into it because I don't remember what my source was for this information, but the story was that it was an argument brought up off the record by one of the organisers to someone she was trying to get on board.

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                                                                                                                                  mak2k RE: SnackHappy Sep 3, 2009 09:34 AM

                                                                                                                                  but how is a chinese dumpling restaurant going to be a "bad element"? the concordia ghetto is predominantly asian (don't we call it Chinatown 2?).

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                                                                                                                                    SnackHappy RE: mak2k Sep 3, 2009 09:44 AM

                                                                                                                                    I was being a bit facetious about it being racially motivated, but it does sound like it was a NIMBY sort of issue.

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                                                                                                                                      cherylmtl RE: SnackHappy Sep 3, 2009 10:12 AM

                                                                                                                                      You kind of wonder about why the NIMBY factor - that particular stretch of St. Marc isn't exactly so wonderful otherwise. You'd think the extra foot traffic in the area might have made the residents happy - it's not like it was attracting a particularly loud crowd, it wasn't licensed, didn't keep super-late hours, so what was the problem?

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                                                                                                                                        bopuc RE: cherylmtl Sep 4, 2009 09:23 AM

                                                                                                                                        yeah mostly chinese concordia students, chowhounds and CCA employees. All known to be quite quiet folks. :)

                                                                                                                                        Any news on it's reopening?

                                                                                                                            2. mainsqueeze RE: chilipepper Sep 4, 2009 11:10 AM

                                                                                                                              Okay, I went by the old Bardeco location to do some investigating. The gate is chained up but from the sidewalk you can see a white board on which someone has written "Qing Hua Dumpling Open Soon". I couldn't see very well in the windows but there didn't appear to be anyone there and there was a bunch of stuff piled up in the windows.

                                                                                                                              I went upstairs to the MTL Computers shop and inquired with the man there if they new anything. He told me that about one month ago, they told him they would open on September 15th, and that he too was eagerly awaiting their opening.

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                                                                                                                                davekry RE: mainsqueeze Sep 15, 2009 03:12 PM

                                                                                                                                Well, today's the 15th. Has anyone got any good news? I feel like I haven't had their lamb and coriander in years.

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                                                                                                                                  daddyL RE: davekry Sep 16, 2009 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                  seriously. What's the word?

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                                                                                                                                    C70 RE: daddyL Sep 16, 2009 12:09 PM

                                                                                                                                    the bird.

                                                                                                                                    (couldn't resist)

                                                                                                                              2. mainsqueeze RE: chilipepper Sep 16, 2009 01:14 PM

                                                                                                                                I went by again today to do yet more snooping around. The gate was still chained but this time the door was open! I stood on the sidewalk trying to peer into the windows, but the glare from the sun made it impossible to see what was going on in there... until I saw movement! The young man came out to talk to me. The good news is that they are working hard and will definitely be opening soon. The bad news is that we will have to wait a little bit longer - their anticipated date of opening is October 10th. He told me that they are currently waiting on the delivery of some large kitchen equipment. In the meantime, I could tell they are doing some renovations inside. I told him there are many people eagerly awaiting their re-opening, which he seemed to appreciate, athough I'm not sure he understood the dire urgency some chowhounds have been expressing. Haha.. When I asked about new menu items, he mentioned cucumber dumplings, as well as crab. The young lady (his wife) is currently in China.

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                                                                                                                                  moh RE: mainsqueeze Sep 16, 2009 09:21 PM

                                                                                                                                  Perhaps we should warn them there will be a flood of "foreigners" on the day they reopen.....

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                                                                                                                                    bigfellow RE: moh Sep 16, 2009 10:21 PM

                                                                                                                                    Yeah, you can't trust those foreigners from the other side of the city!

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                                                                                                                                      keelo RE: moh Sep 19, 2009 09:27 AM

                                                                                                                                      The hype that they're inadvertently building is amazing. They're going to have a wave of new customers based on curiosity!

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                                                                                                                                      caramielle RE: mainsqueeze Sep 17, 2009 09:05 AM

                                                                                                                                      So the restaurant moved from DT Concordia area? I wanted to go before they closed! :( What's the new address?

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                                                                                                                                        mainsqueeze RE: caramielle Sep 17, 2009 09:16 AM

                                                                                                                                        Judging from old mentions of Bardeco on the internet, the address would be 1676 ave. Lincoln.

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                                                                                                                                        hala RE: mainsqueeze Oct 3, 2009 04:15 PM

                                                                                                                                        Is Oct. 10 still the estimated day of opening?

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                                                                                                                                          kpzoo RE: hala Oct 3, 2009 05:02 PM

                                                                                                                                          Oct. 15 per this post:
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                                                                                                                                        manuela RE: chilipepper Sep 21, 2009 04:33 PM

                                                                                                                                        I live in the building right next to QING HUA DUMPLING 's new location ....and I check every day to see if they are open. Today I saw them sticking yellow stickers on their windows and it looked like a phone company was installing their phone line !!! :)

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                                                                                                                                          simrit RE: manuela Sep 24, 2009 08:29 AM

                                                                                                                                          Maybe they'll take plastic...

                                                                                                                                          So does that mean you can confirm the address? Is it 1676 Lincoln?

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                                                                                                                                            BLM RE: simrit Sep 24, 2009 09:26 AM

                                                                                                                                            Well it's the same location as the former Bardeco address.

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                                                                                                                                          Evilbanana11 RE: chilipepper Sep 21, 2009 05:17 PM

                                                                                                                                          LOL this thread is funny in a desperate kind of way.

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                                                                                                                                            KzenCass RE: Evilbanana11 Sep 25, 2009 10:37 AM

                                                                                                                                            yeah the fact that i check this daily is getting to be obsessive. :)

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                                                                                                                                              Plateaumaman RE: KzenCass Sep 25, 2009 03:34 PM

                                                                                                                                              Clearly there's enough demand for more than one dumpling joint in this city.

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                                                                                                                                                SnackHappy RE: Plateaumaman Sep 25, 2009 06:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                Well, there's always Noodle Factory, Lin & Lin and the dumplings at Maison du Nord as well as all the dim sum joints. One need not go dumplingless waiting for Qing Hua to re-open.

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                                                                                                                                                  porker RE: Plateaumaman Sep 26, 2009 03:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                  Surprised no one opened an M-Dumpling yet...

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                                                                                                                                                    Plateaumaman RE: porker Sep 29, 2009 06:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                    The last time we ordered dumplings at the Noodle Factory they accused us of ordering too many .. however, my kids wolfed them down in no time. We are used to going to the Dumpling House in Toronto but I gather at the Noodle Factory they are considered more of an appetizer? Which is just to say, a few more places dedicated to dumplings as a meal are welcome! Dim sum is alright of course, no complaints there, but a different style.

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                                                                                                                                                      mbe RE: Plateaumaman Oct 2, 2009 05:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                      Hey All, I'm visiting from Vancouver and am having some serious dumpling cravings after reading this thread... can anyone confirm if Qing Hua is open yet?

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                                                                                                                                                        kpzoo RE: mbe Oct 2, 2009 05:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                        I don't think it's open yet - the latest news is October 15 - see this thread:

                                                                                                                                                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/636492

                                                                                                                                                        You'll just have to come back to Mtl. ;-)

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                                                                                                                                                          carswell RE: mbe Oct 2, 2009 06:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                          If you can't stick around till mid-month, the dumplings at Maison du Nord will assuage your craving. They're more rustic in style but very satisfying. Lamb-carrot's one of the better choices, especially on a cool fall day.

                                                                                                                                                          Maison du Nord
                                                                                                                                                          2130 St-Mathieu
                                                                                                                                                          514 670-3188

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                                                                                                                                                            mbe RE: carswell Oct 2, 2009 08:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                            Thankyou! I think we might hit the Maison du Nord ... and then come back to Montreal anyway to try Qing Hua :)

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                                                                                                                                                JadeMyst RE: chilipepper Oct 7, 2009 11:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                I walked by the restaurant last Saturday evening and there was someone painting the wall and ceiling so it should be open very soon

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                                                                                                                                                  daddyL RE: chilipepper Oct 8, 2009 08:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                  walked by today on my way to maison du nord. A man came out to say hi and told us that they would be opening this coming monday, maybe tuesday.

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                                                                                                                                                    sharkbait88 RE: daddyL Oct 8, 2009 08:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                    yes :)

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                                                                                                                                                      bopuc RE: daddyL Oct 9, 2009 02:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                      amen hallelujah!

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                                                                                                                                                        williej RE: bopuc Oct 9, 2009 03:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                        Yes, a man working on the door told me they would be open next week. I noticed in the back people making dumplings.

                                                                                                                                                        By the way where is Maison du Nord? Between de M. and Lincoln or further south?

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                                                                                                                                                          sharkbait88 RE: williej Oct 9, 2009 03:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                          its right at the corner of lincoln and st mathieu, to the left of the japanese? restaurant. there is literally no signage, just red chinese letters on the window.

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                                                                                                                                                            williej RE: sharkbait88 Oct 9, 2009 05:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                            south east corner or north east corner?

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                                                                                                                                                              sharkbait88 RE: williej Oct 9, 2009 05:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                              Southeast i think? If you're heading up st mathieu from maisonneuve towards lincoln, it will be the second to last restaurant on the left side of the street. hope that clears it up for you

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                                                                                                                                                                Andria RE: sharkbait88 Oct 9, 2009 06:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                I can't remember the exact address for La Maison du Nord, but it is beside a French Bistro, Bistro Gourmet I believe (2100 St. Mathieu).

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                                                                                                                                                                  carswell RE: Andria Oct 9, 2009 07:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  2130 St-Mathieu, west side of the street a few doors south of Lincoln.

                                                                                                                                                                  Map: http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&amp;so...

                                                                                                                                                                  Pic: http://www.flickr.com/photos/smurfmat...
                                                                                                                                                                  (h/t to the admirable Cedric Sam)

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                                                                                                                                                                    williej RE: carswell Oct 9, 2009 08:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    thanks. Sw side. Must be just south of the little coffee/tea place on the corner. I walked by there yesterday but didn't see it then. will try again next week.

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                                                                                                                                                        KzenCass RE: daddyL Oct 9, 2009 10:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                        amazing!

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                                                                                                                                                          KzenCass RE: KzenCass Oct 12, 2009 04:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                          called tonight..... open tomorrow. :)

                                                                                                                                                      3. hala RE: chilipepper Oct 13, 2009 07:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                        hello,

                                                                                                                                                        Would someone pls. confirm whether they opened today, if the new address is 1676 ave. Lincoln, and what the new name of the place is? I am so tempted to miss my midwife's appointment today so i can go check out if they really are back.

                                                                                                                                                        Thanks!

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                                                                                                                                                          afoodyear RE: hala Oct 13, 2009 08:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                          Can't confirm the opening part - but if that's not the exact address of the new location, it's very close to it, and the new signage says Qing Hua Dumpling with JUICY DUMPLING! written on there as well :)

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                                                                                                                                                            mainsqueeze RE: hala Oct 13, 2009 09:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                            Why not call to check if they're open? That's what telephones are for! And yes, the address is 1676 Lincoln. It's been mentioned a few times on this thread already.

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                                                                                                                                                              hala RE: mainsqueeze Oct 13, 2009 03:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                              I stopped by at 3:15 and was told the same thing. The address is 1676 Lincoln. their name is still Qing Hua Juicy Dumplings :) and, their phone number is (438)288-5366. They said that they open at 5 pm today instead of lunch because yesterday was a holiday and they did not manage to get all their preparations in time for lunch today.

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                                                                                                                                                                KzenCass RE: hala Oct 13, 2009 03:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                thanks.... i think i'm going to go at noon tomorrow.

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                                                                                                                                                              afoodyear RE: hala Oct 13, 2009 12:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                              They are open at 5pm this evening - I checked in today to see if I could grab some lunch, but no dice.

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                                                                                                                                                                bopuc RE: afoodyear Oct 13, 2009 01:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                weird how the intel is inconsistent! I stopped in around 1:30pm, chatted with her and she said, and I did hear clearly: they open tomorrow, wednesday.

                                                                                                                                                                @afoodyear, she told you 5pm tonight? dang. I'll have to swing by and check ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                  afoodyear RE: bopuc Oct 13, 2009 01:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Yup, I was told 5pm tonight, and I was there within 15 minutes of your visit today. Heh. Good luck, whatever you choose to do for dinner :)

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                                                                                                                                                              stak RE: chilipepper Oct 13, 2009 05:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                              Soup dumplings are back, and they're GOOD! Didn't really intend to be the first customers at the new location but we were in the neighbourhood and hungry tonight at around 5:30, and the neon "ouvert" sign called to us. So here's the first report, for what it's worth. The space is bigger, and quite nicely decorated and cozy. We recognized some of the same friendly staff. The 3 sauces are now on the tables (black vinegar and soy sauce are, somewhat confusingly, both kept in Kikkoman bottles) and each person gets a 3-sectioned dish for their own sauces. Their dishes have Qing Hua and the little dumpling logo on them now. I won't go into a lot of detail but everything seems a bit fancier - and they give you a spoon so you can use the soup-and-chopsticks combo technique, using the spoon to catch any soup that tries to escape! It's possible that they had spoons before but I didn't know about this technique then, so I don't recall. The menu seems quite similar - I don't remember what the prices were before but I think they're about the same. There seem to be a few more appetizers and you can get your dumplings steamed, boiled, or fried. There are slight differences in price and number of dumplings per order based on which preparation you choose, but I don't remember the details. When we ordered, we were told that the fried take 20 minutes - but the steamed ones arrived quite quickly so we finished those just in time for the fried ones. I've never had fried soup dumplings before - they were interesting. They seem to put a single layer of dumplings in a frying pan, let them get brown and crispy on one side, and then flip them all out onto a plate. They all stick together for some reason but are easy to separate. They seemed less soupy than the steamed or boiled - maybe some of the soup gets lost in the frying process. We were given a spicy mayo-type sauce to go with the fried dumplings. We were also given a peanut sauce. The dumplings themselves were as delicious as we remember them! We got pork and shrimp (our favourite), pork and cabbage, and beef and coriander. We've been lucky enough to have really good ones in NYC and in Vancouver recently and compared to them, the wrappers seem a tiny bit thicker - but no matter. They said that because today was their first day, there were a few things not available - the cabbage salad, and some of the dumplings. There are some beer taps - not sure if they're serving yet. We stuck with tea, which was very nice. So glad to have them back in business! I'm curious to hear what others think. I kind of expected to see a lineup of CHers out the door but I guess 5:30 is a bit early for dinner :) We were almost the only people in there.

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                                                                                                                                                                Plateaumaman RE: stak Oct 14, 2009 07:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                Sounds like pot stickers have arrived! Thanks for the report. We'll be heading there soon.

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                                                                                                                                                                  KzenCass RE: stak Oct 14, 2009 12:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Went today and it was really good and the menu has grown... seafood and other goodies to come tonight they said... here are the menus....

                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                   
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                                                                                                                                                                    Evilbanana11 RE: KzenCass Oct 14, 2009 02:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Is there a way to zoom in on those pics that I'm missing?

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                                                                                                                                                                      bigfellow RE: Evilbanana11 Oct 14, 2009 02:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Click on the photos. Then if you are using Explorer, go to the page pull down menu and zoom in. The resolution isn't great. But you can make it out.

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                                                                                                                                                                        porker RE: bigfellow Oct 14, 2009 02:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        Funny I had the same question - I printed it as a PDF and zoomed, but got nothing but pixelation...I'll try the zoom feature...

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                                                                                                                                                                          porker RE: porker Oct 14, 2009 02:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          Under "view", zooming to 300% (use the 'custom' option), I can just make out the selections.

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                                                                                                                                                                            celfie RE: porker Oct 14, 2009 04:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            just got back fromn the restaurant - first time visit and I love dumplings. I had steamed coriander lamb and fried pork mushroom. The lamb ones were delicate and very flavourful. The pork ones weren't very well seasoned and I thought the oil from the frying ruined the entire thing. I won't ever make the mistake of getting any sort of fried dumpling again - steamed is the way to go. The place looks great though - I will definitely be going there multiple times per week this semester. Now if only myriade was beside it.

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                                                                                                                                                                              marblebag RE: celfie Oct 14, 2009 05:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              I was also there today.

                                                                                                                                                                              Boiled leek+egg+shrimp was larger than before and tasted good.
                                                                                                                                                                              Fried lamb+coriander was better than boiled.

                                                                                                                                                                              Place was full when I left around 8pm

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                                                                                                                                                                                celfie RE: marblebag Oct 14, 2009 08:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                oh we must have been there at the same time. did you see my dinner companion covered in flem and spit because her dumpling was too hot and her mouth too small?

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                                                                                                                                                                          KzenCass RE: bigfellow Oct 14, 2009 09:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          i tried to keep it as good as possible but there are limitations with the 2 mega byte limit for the upload! :)

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                                                                                                                                                                            bigfellow RE: KzenCass Oct 14, 2009 10:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            It was not critisim (God I can't spell) in any way.

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                                                                                                                                                                              KzenCass RE: bigfellow Oct 14, 2009 10:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              i wasn't saying it was! :) just that i couldn't do any better with the scanner/upload resolution.... anyways i say everyone should go... it's great and i want to go back tomorrow! :p

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                                                                                                                                                                                celfie RE: KzenCass Oct 14, 2009 10:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                i am going back tomorrow too

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                                                                                                                                                                                  marblebag RE: celfie Oct 15, 2009 09:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  I had left overs for lunch today. 60 seconds at High = slurpy goodness.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Can we make it a group so I can try more stuff?

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                                                                                                                                                                                    mak2k RE: marblebag Oct 15, 2009 12:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    the question is, can they fit EVERYBODY in the restaurant? I am already imagining amount of people if somebody organizes a chowdown there. And the owner/waiters will freak out

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                                                                                                                                                                                      sharkbait88 RE: mak2k Oct 15, 2009 01:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      that would be INSANE to be at :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                        marblebag RE: mak2k Oct 16, 2009 01:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        They already experienced a chowdown at the old location and we took over 95% of the room.

                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm not talking about an official outing. A group (of more than 2) can include me and other loners to share and taste.

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                                                                                                                                                                      chilipepper RE: chilipepper Oct 14, 2009 09:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Only had time to take out pork and coriander boiled dumplings - oh so good and slurpy and hot on such a nippy night. Welcome back! ( And I told 'em so - they were happy to hear it!)

                                                                                                                                                                      1. blond_america RE: chilipepper Oct 15, 2009 01:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        We were there for lunch yesterday and the when we tried to order the mackerel dumplings we were told that the seafood shipment was coming any minute and they would be ready for dinnertime. Every since they opened i have not been able to order the mackerel dumplings...we were so close and yet so far this time! Anyways can't wait to try them.

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                                                                                                                                                                          celfie RE: blond_america Oct 15, 2009 01:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          they didnt have chicken last night either

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                                                                                                                                                                            KzenCass RE: blond_america Oct 15, 2009 04:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            Had the mackerel ones tonight.... very good...... also tried chicken ones....
                                                                                                                                                                            tried pork ear and cucumber dish, and soy beef.... both were fun....

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                                                                                                                                                                              mammab RE: KzenCass Oct 19, 2009 05:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              Does anybody know what happened to the Magic Noodle soup and Magic Noodle man (I assume you can't have one without the other)

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                                                                                                                                                                                foodie_mtl RE: mammab Oct 19, 2009 06:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                I asked on Friday evening, and the waitress replied "not yet". I was eager to try out this magical soup/noodle that everyone has been raving about, but was disappointed to not see it on the menu.

                                                                                                                                                                                The dumplings themselves were great (the lamb/coriander ones were delish).

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                                                                                                                                                                                  mainsqueeze RE: mammab Oct 19, 2009 11:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  The Magic Noodle man doesn't work at Qing Hua anymore, as far as I know, but you can eat his noodles at Maison du Nord. Just call ahead to make sure they have them because we were disappointed the other day to find out they'd run out.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    bopuc RE: mainsqueeze Oct 19, 2009 04:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    I don't think it's the same guy. Qing Hua made "a thing" out of the noodles (oooh magic!) but it's fairly a standard way if making them. Maison du nord advertises on their sign outside having various noodle dishes, and this you can see on the menu as well.

                                                                                                                                                                                    However, you have to ask for beef noodle soup, which is not on the menu. YMMV but I got mine the other day. See? :)
                                                                                                                                                                                    I was asked if I wanted spicy I said sure, and so it came with a dose of chili oil. Yay!

                                                                                                                                                                                     
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                                                                                                                                                                                      mainsqueeze RE: bopuc Oct 19, 2009 05:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      The man who made the magic noodles for Qing Hua back when they first started serving that dish definitely moved to Maison du Nord. I know this for sure because I stopped seeing him at Qing Hua and then started seeing him at Maison du Nord.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Bopuc, is that picture you posted a dish from Qing Hua or from Maison du Nord?

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                                                                                                                                                                                        celfie RE: mainsqueeze Oct 19, 2009 05:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        i have not yet been to maison du nord. what is special about beef noodle soup and what is this magic.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Andria RE: mainsqueeze Oct 19, 2009 06:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Actually, the Qing Hua noodle man was the person who trained the guy at la Maison du Nord to make the noodles.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            mainsqueeze RE: Andria Oct 20, 2009 06:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            That would explain why I saw him at Maison du Nord. So he doesn't work there now?

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                                                                                                                                                                                            bopuc RE: mainsqueeze Oct 23, 2009 08:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            ah good to know.
                                                                                                                                                                                            this photo is from Maison du Nord.
                                                                                                                                                                                            the beef in that soup must have been stwed or roasted separately because it was melt-in-your-mouth quality... ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                      celfie RE: KzenCass Oct 19, 2009 06:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      went yesterday. had lamb with coriander, chicken curry, chicken with mushrooms and beef with celery. all were steamed except for the beef which was fried. both chickens were bland and boring. the beef and lamb were more flavourful but underseasoned. what's nice was that we were taking our sweet time and the chef came by and offered to reheat our dumplings.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        williej RE: celfie Oct 19, 2009 08:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Do all the dumplings have green coriander (cilantro) in them (I cannot eat even a speck of green coriander-tastes like soapwater).

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                                                                                                                                                                                          carswell RE: williej Oct 19, 2009 09:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          No. As far as I know, cilantro comes in only the dumplings advertised as having it (e.g. lamb and corander). Also, the "anise" dumplings are actually made with fresh dill.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Tried several new-to-me dumplings on Friday: the pork and spotted mackerel (interesting if only intermittently fishy), cucumber clam (unusual and delicious) and, in many ways best of all, mushroom cabbage, which we had fried (very mushroomy, great texture), one of several new vegetarian/pescetarian options.

                                                                                                                                                                                          A word of warning: the fried dumplings come out of the kitchen extremely hot.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            Andria RE: carswell Oct 19, 2009 06:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            I had the dumplings last week and also tried the mackerel. I found them to be too mushy in texture for my taste.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    bigfellow RE: chilipepper Oct 20, 2009 06:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    I went for lunch today and enjoyed the Pork and sour cabbage dumplings fried and the lamb and corriander steamed. Had a beer with them. It was enjoyable.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Plateaumaman RE: bigfellow Oct 21, 2009 02:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      What time do they open for lunch? Is the service still relatively slow? Need to plan our dumpling outing!

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                                                                                                                                                                                        bigfellow RE: Plateaumaman Oct 21, 2009 02:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        I don't know the hours. I was there at 2:30. service was good. But then I've never had slow service there.

                                                                                                                                                                                    2. TheSnowpea RE: chilipepper Oct 21, 2009 04:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Supper there tonight.

                                                                                                                                                                                      We ordered the spicy tofu and the cucumber salad to start; I was imagining the tofu warmed up, but it was simply cool silken tofu sauced with a slightly chunky chili oil. I liked it more than my SO. It was pretty nice ! but then again, I like silken tofu. The cucumber salad was soft yet crunchy and spicy, providing good contrast to the tofu. I think those were no. 2 and no. 4 on the menu.

                                                                                                                                                                                      For dumplings, we split an order of boiled dumplings, half shrimp with egg and leek, half cabbage with mushrooms (nos. 13 and 16 on the menu). Not soupy at all (perhaps because these were more in a vegetarian - pescatarian vein?). Very tasty nonetheless, and cheerfully scarfed down with chili and vinegar.

                                                                                                                                                                                      The cabbage and 'shroom were my favourites, with great mushroom flavour; the shrimp and egg ones were livened up with green leek flecks and had the favour of my dining companion.

                                                                                                                                                                                      My only quibble: the dumplings had cooled by the time they reached us; they were not hot, more tepid.

                                                                                                                                                                                      It was a fast meal: got there a bit after 5h45 and left at about 6h15. Service was pleasant.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Came out to about 25$ plus tip for two.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        williej RE: chilipepper Oct 21, 2009 07:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Please educate me. Are these dumplings as in soup dumplings, coming in a liquid. Or are they dumplings like Hunan dumplings coming with a sauce?

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Andria RE: williej Oct 21, 2009 07:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          The dumplings are usually steamed... a little like dim sum dumplings, but filled with a hot tasty broth when eaten when fresh. They can also be ordered fried, but you miss the brothy squirt from the steaming. They may be eaten dipped in chili oil or black vinegar... or both mixed - as I choose to do.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            carswell RE: Andria Oct 21, 2009 08:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            They can be ordered steamed, boiled or fried. And the fried versions -- at least the ones we ordered -- have as much broth/soup/juice in them as the steamed and boiled versions do. The only problem is that in the fried versions, the b/s/j is super-heated, as my scalded mouth will attest. That said, some of the dumplings on offer don't have much if any b/s/j in them, whether steamed,.boiled or, I assume, fried.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              Andria RE: carswell Oct 21, 2009 08:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Really... they squirt too? I must give them a try. The only time I had them fried, they were not juicy. Taste-wise, how do they compare?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                carswell RE: Andria Oct 21, 2009 08:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                Tastewise the same as the steamed/boiled versions but with the added layer of Maillard-reaction flavour that comes from the browning. And, as mentioned, they're much, much hotter than the steamed/boiled versions, which may also have an effect on the flavour. We tried two types of fried dumpling: the beef and celery were filled with mouth-scaldingly hot juice; the cabbage-mushroom were somewhat drier (as I image they would be when steamed).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  SnackHappy RE: Andria Oct 21, 2009 08:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  The first time we had fried dumplings they were a bit overcooked and the strong taste of the caramelized dough drowned out the delicate filling. The second time they were less browned and the flavours were well balanced. I reckon it's better to order the meatier dumplings fried and get the vegetable and seafood ones steamed of boiled. Soupiness has been variable. More so than at the previous location. For example the mackerel dumplings we had contained zero broth, chicken curry dumpling were not very juicy, but most of the other choices had plenty of broth.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    hala RE: Andria Oct 22, 2009 06:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I noticed this problem with the fried ones, it depends on how they took them out of the pan, some of the fried dumplings on our table were juicy and squirted and others were visibly broken from seemingly being stuck in the pan and had lost all juice by the time they reached us. None of the steamed cabbage and mushroom were juicy, but i am starting to wonder if that is not how their vegetarian ones are supposed to be. The fried ones were actually a favorite with my 3 year old since he could eat them more easily without the soup :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Plateaumaman RE: hala Oct 23, 2009 05:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      We went to the new Qing Hua dumpling place last night and had a great time. It is much more comfortable than the old location and service was very good, very attentive. We had two delicious salads, the cucumber and the potato. They are both more like Chinese antipasto, marinated vinegar-y things. Even my youngest son enjoyed them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      We tried 5 kinds of dumplings, the lamb/leek (very nice), vegetarian (this was confusing as we'd ordered something with shrimp) which were pretty bland, the mackerel (more subtle than I'd expected, good texture) and two kinds of pork dumplings fried .. our favourite being pork with green onion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      The most exotic thing we tried was the glutinous rice dessert which was brown, watery and tasted of burnt rice and smoke. Not a hit with the kids but intriguing for the adults. I do recall the family of a Cantonese friend of mine boiling the bottom of their rice pan for dessert, never tried it though. This is Dalian cuisine according to our waiter, so no wonder we're not too familiar with it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      My kids are already listing off the dumplings they think we should order next time as they know, quite correctly, we'll be going back.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        moh RE: Plateaumaman Oct 24, 2009 03:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        We also tried the glutinous rice dessert, after trying to order the pear in red wine. Although I enjoyed it, (it is similar to some Korean bean soup desserts), I found it was a touch too burnt, I think they might have overdone the burnt flavour. But I really love the glutinous balls, the texture makes me very nostalgic. I'd say that dessert is not their forte.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        We had the cabbage and mushroom dumplings, full of umami from the dried black Chinese mushrooms used in the filling, and the pork clam dumplings and the lamb coriander. All were excellent. Great to see them open again. They are very nice! Service was sincere and rapid.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        They tell me that the beef noodle soup is no more. Will have to head to Maison du Nord for that craving.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                sharkbait88 RE: williej Oct 21, 2009 07:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                the soup is inside the dumpling. the dumplings themelves don't come in anything, but customarily dipped in vinegar + soy sauce mixture depending on your tastes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                williej RE: chilipepper Oct 23, 2009 02:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                We went late last night. What is their opening /closing hours? We were there rather late and first told there was only vegetarian left. Then a kind lady (the owner?) came over to us and offered us whatever we wanted. We had wonton soup and also shrimp/pork dumplings. It was excellent and one of our party wished there was bread to sop up the sauce in her plate!

                                                                                                                                                                                                will be returning soon.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  blond_america RE: williej Oct 24, 2009 08:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  They close at 10pm.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    williej RE: blond_america Oct 24, 2009 11:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Well that night it was about 1115 by the time we left, and there were others who left around the same time. So they must be flexible about closing time.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      blond_america RE: williej Oct 24, 2009 12:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ya when i went around 9:30pm i didn't leave till after 10pm and there were still people coming in around 10pm. I agree that they are flexible about the closing time. Prior to our arrival we called and were told that the closing time is 10pm but once we got there we were welcomed and so were the later parties.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  chilipepper RE: chilipepper Oct 25, 2009 07:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  We were three and had the hot and sour cucumber salad - tasty, vinagar-y, though not hot and that red stuff in the plastic container on the table didn't help.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  The leek and potato soup was meh - like packaged stuff according to the soup-eater.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  The hot and sour was okay - not as gloopy as other places, more sour than hot, but nice bits of tofu and mushrooms.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Plus all steamed dumplings: beef and coriander, chicken and curry, pork and pickled veg, and pork, shrimp and leek, all juicilicious, with the beef and chicken garnering the extra edge for extra yum factor.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I am loving their non-leaky tea pots with tea leaf strainers.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  It seems the place is catching on with the non-Chinese folk: there was one Chinese family there along with six other non-Asian tables while we were there. Back in the day, it was all Chinese students. Interesting....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    born_to_conform RE: chilipepper Oct 30, 2009 09:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hi,

                                                                                                                                                                                                    May daughter is allergic to peanuts. Does anyone know if they use a lot of peanuts or peanut oils in their cooking? I would like to go but am terrified of cross-contamination.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      kpzoo RE: born_to_conform Oct 30, 2009 09:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hiya - unfortunately I don't think anyone here is qualified to give you that kind of guarantee. The best thing would be for you to go down and talk to them in person about your allergy concerns. You could also check out Zero8, if you don't already know about it - they're totally peanut-free: http://www.zero8.com/ Good luck!

                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. Chocolatesa RE: chilipepper Oct 30, 2009 02:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'll be going there for the first time tomorrow afternoon, maybe with a friend. If anyone wants to join us feel free, let me know. I can't wait! I've been wanting to go there for months now :D

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Yummylicious RE: chilipepper Oct 31, 2009 05:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hi, my name is Yummylicious and I am an official QH Addict :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                      My favorite dishes has to be Potato Salad and Duck Wings as appetizers and a plate of Leek, Egg and Shrimp (steamed), Lamb and Coriander, Pork and Leek (boiled). To be enjoyed with the perfect significant other, of course ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yummylicious RE: Yummylicious Nov 8, 2009 09:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I truly am an addict. 3 wknds = 3 visits :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                        This time I tried Pork Tongue and Cucumber salad as an appetizer along with the usual Potato Salad, of course. I should tell you all "Westerners", don't be afraid of Pork Tongue, i know it sounds quite scary, but it actually tastes really good. All the marinated flavor is locked into the Tongue Meat, so it ends up being really tasty. I find that all QH salads has the same taste, though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        This time we chose to fry the Lamb and Coriander .. and I can honestly say, once you go fried Lamb + Coriander, you'll never want to go back to steamed/boiled. Fried Lam dumplings just taste so much better and surprisingly, it was also juicier than the steamed ones.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yummm.. can't wait to go back next wk! :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        So I finally went with my friend Stephan and it was great. I got a 1/2 order of pork and shrimp, and a 1/2 order of cabbage and mushroom, and he got the lamb and coriander, all steamed, and it was delicious. In the pic of the outside Steph was laughing at me standing in the middle of the street in the rain trying to hold my umbrella, take a picture and not get my camera wet at the same time lol.

                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                         
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          porker RE: Chocolatesa Nov 5, 2009 03:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I took a closer look at the picts (you in the rain, the interior, the tea) and wanted to comment "All very nice, but what about pictures....OF THE FOOD?!", but lo and behold, your next post ^ did indeed show off the morsels!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Chocolatesa RE: porker Nov 6, 2009 05:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Lol yeah there's a 4-picture limit to posts :P

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          And of course here's the dumplings:

                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. alixium RE: chilipepper Nov 6, 2009 07:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Was there yesterday for the second time. I really love these dumplings, but wish they wouldn't cool off so quickly!! They come at the table piping hot, turn bearable for consumption, then cool down at an exponential rate. (small complaints, I know)
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Also, has anyone tried the won ton soup? It is soooo much better than the 'normal', mushy soups offered in lesser establishments. The broth is flavorful and delicious, and the won tons are tasty, with nice 'wrappings'. I could eat a big bowlful of this as lunch alone.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              minisma RE: alixium Nov 6, 2009 10:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I was there yesterday too! Kicked myself repeatedly when I read the little menu card on the way home and saw the marinated duck wings. CRAP, I missed them! Next time. Q: are all the dumplings with coriander so strongly flavored of it? We ordered lamb/coriander and the lamb was totally lost. Not just a bit lost..... totally. The fried pork cabbage were great! Almost got hit 3x in a row by my husbands dumpling juice.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                Evilbanana11 RE: minisma Nov 6, 2009 12:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I'm asian and grew up on coriander. We use it absolutely everywhere as a garnish so I can barely taste it now being totally desensitized lol. I tasted the Lamb and coriander dumpling and they only taste of lamb to me but it might be overpowering to the western palate .

                                                                                                                                                                                                                PS. your last sentence sounds kinda kinky :D

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  porker RE: Evilbanana11 Nov 6, 2009 01:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  That coming from Evilbanana - hehe {;-/)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Andria RE: porker Nov 11, 2009 07:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Really porker? We could keep this one going ;-p

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    minisma RE: Evilbanana11 Nov 9, 2009 10:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Wow, we could only taste coriander and I like it, but found it too much. Different tastes!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Maybe kinky if I wasn't calling him a ding-dong and hiding behind my napkin!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                sharkbait88 RE: chilipepper Nov 7, 2009 11:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                went to eat there for the first time today for lunch. ordered fried pork and cabbage, an appetizer of spicy tofu and boiled pork and shrimp.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                overall, pretty average, wasn't amazing, like other ch'ers keep saying, but then again, i've had my share of soup dumplings from all over the place. overpriced as well. but service was good and atmosphere was very atypical of usual chinese restaurants.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                imho, maison du nord makes much better dumplings and also excels at the other food stuffs on the menu.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Montreal_eater RE: chilipepper Dec 1, 2009 05:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  After reading all about this resto and getting very excited, i went for the first time last week
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  3 of us ordered the pork ear and cucumber salad, the lamb/coriander , cabbage/mushroom, and pork cabbage, alll steamed. While all of us enjoyed the food, we found it somewhat pricey $46 for what. Consideing that dim sum, which includes seafood and many different dishes costs about the same, I can't understand why posters have claimed t's ridiculously cheap with huge amounts of food. We even had the lunch specials, which are somewhat cheaper than night time prices. The dumplings were good but not great. I'm Chinese too, so I've had my fair share of dumplings. I would definitely go back, but it's not a showstopper by any means. By the way, I looked in vain for pork bone salad :-) Next stop is Maison du Nord and Golden Stone.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    mainsqueeze RE: Montreal_eater Dec 2, 2009 05:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    They don't have pork bone salad since they moved. It was on their old menu but not the new one.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      BLM RE: mainsqueeze Dec 2, 2009 05:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Maybe you can request it as an off the menu item? Just a thought.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Not sure if they even make it anymore, but I'll ask next time.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          williej RE: mainsqueeze Dec 2, 2009 03:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I wanted to say on two visits I left something accidentally behind and the smiling wait staff found it for me. When I realized I was missing something I rushed back and was happy to recover my items.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          So it is a plus to not only have great service, great food, also kind people. I only wish they had a better selection of juices, like coconut water, mango juice, passion fruit etc.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            english muffin RE: williej Dec 2, 2009 04:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yesterday we bought the frozen dumplings to try at home. You get 30 for the same price as 15 on site. Our attempt at steaming them didn't go well, even though I followed the instructions carefully, so we ended up boiling them and they were almost as delicious as the ones eaten there. Shame some of them burst though and the precious soup was lost, but i'll experiment until I get it right.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              mainsqueeze RE: english muffin Dec 2, 2009 05:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Am I reading this right? You can buy frozen dumplings at Qing Hua?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                english muffin RE: mainsqueeze Dec 3, 2009 04:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                indeed! They don't have all the flavours available, we had lamb & coriander, beef & coriander and pork & leek. The anise ones aren't available unfortunately.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  marblebag RE: english muffin Dec 30, 2009 08:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  the "business" postcard shows the flavours for take out (30)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  pork+cabbage
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I bought the last item (2 ziplocs of 15) and followed the girl's instructions. Bring water to a boil (bubbles) drop the frozen dumplings in and wait 6 minutes. The dough was still somewhat toothy although I don't think that leaving them in the water longer would make it soft like wontons.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm bringing 5 orders to a party next Tuesday!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          porker RE: BLM Dec 3, 2009 05:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I asked last sunday and the server was quite assertive that they do not offer it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm trying to reply to BLM talking about pork neck bone here...not the frozen dumplings.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      reelection RE: chilipepper Feb 1, 2010 04:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I finally got to try these, and they were very good. However, a few small quibbles to add to the slightly more critical posts of late:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. The dumplings are very small! I was surprised to see 15 of them offered per order on the menu, but upon seeing the size I understood why. I had soup dumplings in Japan and I seem to recall they were larger and you ate them with the Asian soup spoon to catch all the juice flowing out. There was no spoon given here because the portions are bite-sized.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. There may be no way to fix this, but the fried ones were served all stuck together. The juice inside them sadly would spill out into the serving bowl as the individual dumplings were separated. Still very tasty, but couldn't enjoy the liquid inside.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      3. As mentioned by a few others here lately, the dumplings are not particularly cheap. Not a rip-off by any stretch, but still surprisingly pricier than what I'd expect for a Chinese resto in a university area.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      All things considered though I'd like to go back for more, or maybe try the dumplings at Maison du Nord as some have suggested for comparison's sake. Service was friendly and decor pleasant.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        kpaxonite RE: reelection Feb 1, 2010 05:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        i bought frozen ones to make at home last week and also wasnt too impressed with the value, i really thought they would be better considering all the reviews

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Har_Gow_Freak RE: chilipepper Apr 28, 2010 04:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I just gotta try these "soup dumplings" that moh is always talking about! Sounds like the ONLY place to get these in montreal. Will be going to check it out soon! My only question: do they serve Har Gow?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          sharkbait88 RE: Har_Gow_Freak Apr 28, 2010 05:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          no i dont remember them having it on the menu last time i went (in december). this place is pretty strictly serving only dumplings and the occasional northern style side dishes (if i remember correctly)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          you should try maison du nord on st mathieu and lincoln after you try qing hua. i personally like theirs much better over qing huas.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            moh RE: Har_Gow_Freak May 6, 2010 03:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Just to clarify Har Gow Freak, that the soup dumplings at Qing Hua are not the traditional soup dumplings that I love and crave. I really love their dumplings, but there are several qualities that I look for when judging soup dumplings:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. The quality of the wrapper. I love soup dumplings that have very very thin skin, with an elasticity that allows you to see the broth in the dumpling and yet is strong enough to keep from breaking. The Qing Hua dumpling skin is way thicker that the classic soup dumpling.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. There has to be a lot of broth, preferably fatty and rich, so much so that when you break into it, it can splatter and burn your mouth. That is why I always eat them with a spoon, to capture all the rich fatty broth. The Qing Hua dumpling broth is not as copious or rich as the traditional soup dumpling.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I have only had these kinds of soup dumplings in Toronto, Vancouver and New York City (Plus environs). I have not found an equivalent in Montreal. Sorry! You'll have to travel to get the elusive soup dumpling.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              moh RE: Har_Gow_Freak May 6, 2010 03:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Here is a picture of a crab and pork soup dumpling, I believe from a place in Vancouver. Notice the delicate thin skin, and you can see the glistening of the broth inside.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                porker RE: moh May 6, 2010 03:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hi moh,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                We're heading to NYC in mid June for our annual Big Apple Block BBQ Party pilgrimage
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.bigapplebbq.org/
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                We always end up in chinatown no matter when we're in NYC.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Would you have a specific place in mind to try the soup dumplings as you describe? Or do we just wing it at various noodle shops offering the morsels?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. Har_Gow_Freak RE: chilipepper Apr 29, 2010 10:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Went to check out Qing Hua as early as 10:00 this morning (St-Marc / Tupper) but could not find the place. Just read (5 minutes ago) that they have a new location on Lincoln! Can anyone tell me the exact new adress?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                kpzoo RE: Har_Gow_Freak Apr 29, 2010 11:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1676 Ave Lincoln - it's the old Bardeco location, if you're familiar with it. Between St-Mathieu & Guy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                jay_81k RE: chilipepper Jun 2, 2010 08:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Tried it the other day, was very interesting. Had Beef & coriander. Lamb & coriander, Chicken & mushroom & Shrimp and pork. They were all good , but started to all taste the same after I ate around 10 of them. The broth inside really makes them interesting. Id go back, but next time not for my first meal of the day.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Plateaumaman RE: jay_81k Jun 5, 2010 09:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Coriander is quite strong so you might want to order it in only one of your dumplings. Our favourites are pork & green onion and then lamb and coriander. And I always have to grab a pack of frozen dumplings to boil at home for my kids for school lunch now. I thought I could get away with packing up 8 for each but they want 12. So easy to eat.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's also a good idea to have a salad or two with your dumplings for textural variety. We like the spicy cucumber one.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. Har_Gow_Freak RE: chilipepper Dec 3, 2010 07:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm going to eat there with a friend today! My first try....hope they have Har Gow 'cause I'm commminnnn'!!!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    SnackHappy RE: Har_Gow_Freak Dec 3, 2010 07:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    They don't have har gow. Just the dumplings described in this thread.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      no sui mei either.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      wcundill RE: chilipepper Dec 12, 2010 09:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      good spot.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      the cabbage salad can be amazing!! it was better at the old place.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      i usually get the cabbage and a half order of lamb and coriande. i think its great!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I went to maison de nord and the pork sandwich had very soggy bread. ive had better

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Hi gang.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Swinging through town I made the pilgrimage to Qing Hua.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        As I was paying they told me they're opening a new location in November in the old Chinatown, on St-Laurent just up from Viger, east side (between Pho Bang and Hong Kong).
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Enjoy!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Plateaumaman RE: bopuc Oct 13, 2011 12:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          That's good news. Thanks for reporting it!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            english muffin RE: bopuc Dec 28, 2011 08:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I went to the new location today, and the waitress said it had been open a month. The room is much bigger and lighter, and the menu seemed to have many more choices. The lunch menu seemed slightly cheaper, as the soup and salad option is a $2 add on. My only issue was the poor waitress, as she had about 15 tables to take care of by herself. She was running around trying her very best but inevitabl;y the service was slow.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. Har_Gow_Freak RE: chilipepper Feb 8, 2012 07:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            New location on St-Laurent any good or better than original location on Lincoln?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              SnackHappy RE: Har_Gow_Freak Feb 8, 2012 07:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I went on monday and, on that night, the food was almost exactly the same as at the Lincoln location. The dumpling skins were dryer and less tender, but the rest was up to par. I'm more or less grasping at straws, here. Our meal was very good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Har_Gow_Freak RE: SnackHappy Feb 9, 2012 12:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                OK... Well I might try it out soon. Thanks for the info!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              OliverB RE: chilipepper Feb 9, 2012 07:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Sorry but Qing Hua is no good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I was there for dinner tonight and it's bland and tasteless. I just got back from San Francisco. There are no good dumplings in Montreal. The coleslaw was the best part of this place. I don't care if they make their own dumplings, it's more or less junk.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                BarackHObama RE: OliverB Feb 9, 2012 07:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                i agree. only the lamb dumplings are flavourful. the rest are bland.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  OliverB RE: BarackHObama Feb 9, 2012 07:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Not even. I had the lamb and coriander, they sucked. I had the pork and squid; indistinguishable. The shrimp with leek and egg- equally so. Everything tastes the same. Pan-fried chicken and mushroom was crap also.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I had real dumplings in SF last week. Xiao Long Bao Shanghai dumplings, spicy pork and chives, Hung Zhou crab and pork, shrimp with XO sauce, steamed dungeness crab, spicy Mongolian beef, shrimp pork and mushroom shu mai, spinach and BBQ pork, Shanghai crab roe and pork, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  You're supposed to be able to taste the ingredients inside. They're supposed to have distinct flavors. They are not supposed to be generic Chinese novelty snack that you dip in table soy. Proper dumplings come dressed in different sauces and with different spices to compliment the flavors of their fillings. Not just hot watery bland centers wrapped up in gluteny little balls that need to be doused in chilli oil to even be edible. Qing Hua sucks. They do not know how to make dumplings. You could find better dumplings in most Chinatown food courts. Their choice of fillings are about as boring as they taste. And it's way overpriced. I spent $40 with tip for 24 dumplings (12+6+6) a starter of coleslaw and some crappy canned lycheee water drink. I spent $50 at Shanghai Dumpling King in Richmond last week and had enough food to feed 4 tables (which we did!) and still brought home leftovers! The food also had flavor, layers, texture, etc. Qing Hua is one dimensional. There's nothing special about anything I've ever tried there, and I've sampled most of the menu. Boring is the best adjective to describe this place.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    reelection RE: OliverB Feb 9, 2012 07:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    What are your thoughts on Mai Xiang Yuan in Chinatown?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      indeed RE: OliverB Mar 20, 2012 06:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Plus, it seems to me, there is MSG in those dumplings. I was SUPER-THIRSTY after both times I ate at Qing Hua. Usually, that super-thirst is no mistake "there is MSG here" sign.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        sweettoothMTL RE: indeed Mar 20, 2012 08:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Thanks for mentionning it. Such a shame MSG is allowed and so widely used in asian restaurant in Quebec (not sure if they also do it in Canada, they certainly don't in the US).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          TheSnowpea RE: indeed Mar 24, 2012 11:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yeah, they said they don't use it, but the few times I ate there, I got a massive headache each time afterwards. I enjoyed my meals, but the headaches drove me off for good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        deadchildstar RE: BarackHObama Mar 8, 2012 06:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Haters! Went for the first time today, with a friend. We both enjoyed the dumplings - lamb/coriander and pork/cabbage. I've had dumplings in other cities (NY/Van/TO) -- I'm no expert by any means, but I've eaten a lot of Asian food (not to mention a lot of kreplach) and I have to say Qing Hua is pretty good. I would have preferred one more sauce.... their selection looks limited, but they make them to order, I don't see why they wouldn't make what you want. Cabbage salad, tasty.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Price - well, they're in the Concordia ghetto, so they can charge what they want I suppose. Yes, pricier than they probably should be, but in that neighbourhood, your options for a decent lunch are somewhat limited.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Eager to try maison du nord next.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          OliverB RE: deadchildstar Mar 8, 2012 06:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I was there today also... only because I work with a young autistic boy who has extreme ocd and insists on coming every few weeks out of habit. Nothing tasted bad, but nothing tastes good. And a correction above, they do not make them to order at all. I asked for a simple steamed shrimp dumpling for my young friend who also happens to be a picky eater and they could not accommodate because all dumplings are pre-made/filled and frozen prior to prep. So he had to take the shrimp along with the egg and leek. Not quite mto. Anyways, it was satisfying but as usual, I found it all pretty bland and the quality of ingredients from dumplings to fillings are all pretty tasteless. I'll probably be back again in a couple of weeks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            deadchildstar RE: OliverB Mar 8, 2012 06:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            my mistake about 'made to order' - I read it in a review, so I assumed... anyway.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              marblebag RE: deadchildstar Mar 9, 2012 08:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              In the old days when they were in the basement location on St-Marc, everything was made to order which meant longer wait times for your order to be ready.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Ahhh, the good 'ole days.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  unlaced RE: porker Mar 9, 2012 09:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  lol exactly what I was going to say! I still remember the first (and only) chowhound meet up that I went to was at the original Qing Hua! I still like the dumplings at Qing Hua although I find they can be inconsistent (we got a cold batch one time - quite unpleasant!) However, I do prefer the dumplings at Mai Xiang Yuan now - and those are still freshly made to order!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hey, I was at a CH meetup there....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Shattered RE: OliverB Feb 10, 2012 07:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Man, I'm glad someone said it. Went to the original basement location when everyone was raving about it - was I missing something? Bland, cost almost $20, and was hungry again less than 2 hours later.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          maj54us RE: OliverB Mar 5, 2012 07:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Went to the one on St-Laurent because my wife said so and it wasn't great. First bite would squish the water out of the dumplings. We had 3 kind and none was fantastic in the flavors department. It was annoying to eat with all the liquid in the dumpling. I made hole into the rest of the batch so they can drain the water. No repeat for me. Told the wife I said so from reviews here and she's not talking to me now. lol lol

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Plateaumaman RE: maj54us May 6, 2012 12:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            We finally got around to trying the second location of Qing Hua dumplings and were very disappointed. I would have thought having the same recipes would result in similar food but these were not as refined at all. The dough was very pasty and thick, the fillings very coarse. I had the lamb and coriander which had a strong mutton taste and long uncut threads of coriander. The pork and green onion dumplings were also bland and coarse and unevenly fried. Will return to the old location only now or Mai Xiang Yuan. All dumplings are not created equal.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              unlaced RE: Plateaumaman May 6, 2012 01:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              hmm I guess it must depend on the dumpling maker? We were there last night (at the Chinatown location) and were actually impressed by the dumplings, especially compared to our last couple of experiences at the location in Chinatown 2 (cold dumplings, no juice in dumplings, extremely slow service)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Plateaumaman RE: unlaced May 6, 2012 06:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                That's hopeful, at least. The pork/green onion dumplings were only randomly juicy, the lamb too wet and explosive. I've always enjoyed the dumplings on Lincoln and the service is usually okay. Cold dumplings must be really upsetting. Perhaps the expansion has watered down both locations.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          OliverB RE: chilipepper Mar 17, 2012 07:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Convinced my little buddy to try a new dumpling place yesterday afternoon and took him to Mai Xiang Yuan with much resistance... I only ordered for him (shrimp, leek, and egg) but tasted both the boiled [not steamed] and pan-fried variations and the quality is incomparable to Qing Hua. I was still not blown away and found the overall selection quite limited and dissappointing; however the dumplings were the tastiest I've had in Montreal so far. Not to say that they are even comparable with great dumplings I've had in other cities, but they tasted very fresh and at least here you can actually discern from the ingredients - not just frozen/reheated balls of stuffed gluton! I ordered a cucumber and jellyfish salad as well and it was very good. Not the most exciting discovery in town, but I'd definitely go back again to order for myself. We also walked up La Gauchetiere to Legende for dessert and while I didn't touch any of the buns or cookies, my little pal had a slice of triple chocolate cake that didn't look so great... but it seemed apparent from what was on display that this place blows Harmonie out of the water. I didn't eye anything that would make me want to rush back, nor would I consider it a special destination... but compared to Harmonie up the street which I find utterly gross, I'm surprised they don't take up all the business on that strip. I could be wrong though - I've been so put off by Montreal's Asian bakeries that I don't have too much incentive to bother sampling stuff anymore. Anyways, to summarize: Mai Xiang Yuan, which I would consider pretty good by local standards, beat Qing Hua's dumplings by a million points!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Edit: These are not soup dumplings btw. It's Jiaozi style and the prices are significantly cheaper as well.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            TheSnowpea RE: OliverB Mar 19, 2012 08:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Harmonie is now called Coco Bun or something, and well, the quality has gone down. :-p

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            EDIT: I just realised you were in Chinatown. My comment refers to the former Harmonie in the Guy-Concordia station: I have no idea about the one in Chinatown 1 (but it sounds like it's still Harmonie over there)

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