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  <id>589546</id>
  <title>best rye for manhattan</title>
  <published_at>Wed Jan 21 09:24:29 -0800 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>21</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>36</id>
    <name>Spirits</name>
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      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>4344386</id>
        <content>any ideas</content>
        <published_at>Wed Jan 21 09:24:30 -0800 2009</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>107788</id>
          <name>luv2eatct</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4344731</id>
      <content>It depends on how you want your Manhattan to taste.  I actually prefer a Bourbon (or Tennessee Whiskey) Manhattan.  If you want to try a more traditional, rye Manhattan, though, here are a few that should do well for a traditional, spicy rye taste:

Rittenhouse 100
Wild Turkey 101 Rye
Sazerac Rye

If you like something sweeter, you may want to try Old Overholt; for something a bit lighter, but still a traditional rye flavor, Wild Turkey's Russel Reserve

http://recenteats.blogspot.com/2008/06/whiskey-wednesday-meet-me-in-manhattan.html
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      <published_at>Wed Jan 21 10:57:23 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4344386</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10132</id>
        <name>sku</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4344813</id>
      <content>Old Overholt or Sazerac are my favorite everyday ryes for Manhattans.  In a restaurant/bar with no rye (typical) I'll always then call for Seagrams 7, a Canadian blended whiskey with a good portion of rye in it.  </content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 21 11:22:24 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4344731</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13780</id>
        <name>Up With Olives</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4352946</id>
      <content>FYI, Seagram's 7 is an American blended whiskey.  (Seagram's was a Canadian company, which often causes this confusion).</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 23 23:15:23 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4344813</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10132</id>
        <name>sku</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4345214</id>
      <content>+1 on the Wild Turkey 101.  It's a great rye at a great price, and the higher proof means that it will stand up to a bit more vermouth in the drink (I personally like a 3:1 rye:vermouth ratio).

By the way, sku, nice blog!  I just read through all of your Whiskey Wednesday posts and found them quite enjoyable.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 21 13:10:19 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4344731</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>65478</id>
        <name>davis_sq_pro</name>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4346512</id>
      <content>the bonded Rittenhouse, hands down.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 21 21:23:12 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4344731</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12626</id>
        <name>ted</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4346824</id>
      <content>I agree with you. While I'll take any rye for my Manhattan, I like Rittenhouse bonded 100 proof. I think it has the most rye character, with more balance than some of the heavy rye super expensive ones. I like to use Antico formula vermouth which in itself can be overpowering, but put it to the Rittenhouse bonded and a miracle occurs, add a few drops of bitters, and nirvana.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 22 05:03:52 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4346512</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10732</id>
        <name>JMF</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4346984</id>
      <content>I've been working my way through a bottle of the Russell's Reserve Rye. I like it, but it's hard to justify spending $35 for that over the Rittenhouse, when it's under $20. Fortunately, at least one of my local liquor stores has gotten more in stock after being out for several months.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 22 06:25:26 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4346824</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12626</id>
        <name>ted</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4351237</id>
      <content>I like Old Overholt, too.  I also like Jim Beam yellow label 100% rye.  Both are affordable and make great Manhattan's.

Don't forget to pay attention to your vermouth, too.  I don't use the really cheap stuff, as I feel it affects the flavor as much as a cheap whisky would.  I also mix sweet and dry vermouth, since I feel the sweet one is usually TOO sweet by itself.

My Manhattan recipe is as follows:

2 parts rye
1/2 part sweet vermouth
1/2 part dry vermouth
3 dashes Angostura bitters
1 maraschino cherry with a spoonful of juice

Stir over ice in a rocks glass.  </content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 23 10:51:07 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4344731</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>159754</id>
        <name>ed1066</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4352952</id>
      <content>dry and sweet vermouth in equal parts is a.....Perfect Manhattan with Rye or  a Perfect Rob Roy with Scotch.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 23 23:23:59 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4351237</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>123497</id>
        <name>fourunder</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4351373</id>
      <content>I always reach for either Rittenhouse 100 or Van Winkle Family Reserve.  Both add the characteristic rye spiciness that I like.  I think the Van Winkle is a touch more refined, but that's not always what you're looking for so I have both.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 23 11:28:49 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4344386</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>185532</id>
        <name>ShadowedOne</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4354788</id>
      <content>New favorite.

R(i) 1.   That isn't a typo.  It is a modern package and typeface that is intended, I think, to look like a phonetic spelling of "rye." And then the "one" is actually on the label as an "exponent."...but that exceeds the capabilities of either (both?) Chowhound boards and I so I just did it with a regular one.

Anyway, I use Carpano Antico vermouth which eliminates the need for bitters as it is already rather aromatic.  This is the most leathal (in a good way) Manhattan I have ever had.  You'd never guess it is 92 proof!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 24 18:24:05 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4344386</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>96313</id>
        <name>ellaystingray</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4362325</id>
      <content>I've been assuming that this is basically the "Grey Goose" of Rye.  What I mean is that someone realized that if they made a catchy label and jacked up the price, people would assume that it was good.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 10:54:03 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4354788</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>111910</id>
        <name>jgg13</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4363051</id>
      <content>Here here.  I took one look at that stuff and the store and thought "great, now they're trying to market rye to tools."</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 13:47:07 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4362325</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>243219</id>
        <name>craigasaurus</name>
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    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4363131</id>
      <content>Hey, it may be wonderful.  And if it means that more bars will actually carry a rye whisky then I guess that's good.  But I couldn't walk up to the register holding that bottle.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 14:05:11 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4363051</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>101728</id>
        <name>Frommtron</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4363215</id>
      <content>Just to be clear, I wasn't saying that it was a ripoff/etc - I really don't know.  That was just my initial impression when I first read about it, and until I find out that this is demonstrably untrue I'm going to stick to non-flashy rye.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 14:25:10 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4363131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>111910</id>
        <name>jgg13</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>4363330</id>
      <content>I'm totally with you.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 15:02:53 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4363215</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>101728</id>
        <name>Frommtron</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4364086</id>
      <content>(r&#299;)&#185; is mediocre and way overpriced.  It's very light, like a rye for someone who doesn't really like rye.  Given the amount of great ryes out there at reasonable prices, there's no reason to spend for this stuff.  

http://recenteats.blogspot.com/2009/01/whiskey-wednesday-ryes-and-fall-of-jim.html</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 19:27:02 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4363131</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10132</id>
        <name>sku</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>4364113</id>
      <content>The words 'light' and 'rye' shouldn't really go together.  Thanks for the report.  You're doing God's work, sir.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 19:34:04 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4364086</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>101728</id>
        <name>Frommtron</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4357242</id>
      <content>
Templeton.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 25 18:56:53 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4344386</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10737</id>
        <name>Bobfrmia</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4361092</id>
      <content>I like Michter's Rye for a Manhattan.  I'll also use Sazerac to save some money.  Wild Turkey 101 is my go to when in a bar that has a poor or non-existent rye selection.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 27 02:02:37 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4344386</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>101728</id>
        <name>Frommtron</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4364940</id>
      <content>I'll tell you one NOT to use: Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye, Kentucky Straight 13 year old 47.8%abv/95.6 proof, bottle # I-520. 

I tried a small Manhattan with it last night and it was a mess. I used Carpano Antica vermouth and The Bitter Truth aromatic bitters, and they actually overwhelmed this almost too old, delicate, floral, smooth rye. 

This is a beautiful sipping rye, on the rocks, with a small splash of water to cut the proof a bit. I found it half full in storage in my distillery with most of my spirits collection and pulled it out yesterday and brought it home because I had forgotten what it was like. The last half of the bottle is going to be treasured, sip by sip, until I can find another bottle or three.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 28 06:53:05 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4344386</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10732</id>
        <name>JMF</name>
      </user>
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