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Where to buy good quality charcoal?

uberathlete Jan 20, 2009 10:39 PM

Hi. Does anyone know where I could buy good quality charcoal, I mean the real stuff in the GTA? I'm looking for a good source that sells different types of north american and possibly asian originated charcoal. I doubt I'll get many responses but any suggestions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks!

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  1. Kagemusha RE: uberathlete Jan 21, 2009 04:12 AM

    Call Ontario Gas Barbeques--seriously. Huge selection of charcoal 'cues, fuel, accessories.

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      mlukan RE: Kagemusha Jan 21, 2009 09:15 AM

      I'll third OGB, they have a large selection.

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      Fat Swine RE: uberathlete Jan 21, 2009 04:25 AM

      Canadian Tire sells charcoal. You can sprinkle garlic powder on it if you want garlic charcoal, or chili powder for a mexican flair.

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        garlicandwingnut RE: Fat Swine Jan 21, 2009 05:23 AM

        Can Tire usually does not have charcoal at this time of year.

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          Kagemusha RE: Fat Swine Jan 21, 2009 09:30 AM

          Crappy Tire's charcoal "selection" now is limited to busted bags swaddled in packing tape. I did find the big Lowe's in Brampton carried large bags of Canadian lump charcoal at discount prices--about half the Crappy Tire price by weight. Not the greatest but OK.

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          aveivy RE: uberathlete Jan 21, 2009 05:15 AM

          Agreed with Kagemusha - Ontario Gas Barbecues in Concord - www.bbqs.com. But be warned that their winter selection is not so good. Only about four lump charcoal brands to choose from. In season they carry many more.

          They also carry a variety of woods for smoking - hickory, alder, mesquite, apple, cherry and grape vine were all avaible last time I was in (early December).

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            uberathlete RE: aveivy Jan 21, 2009 08:58 AM

            Thanks for the suggestion. Just wondering, do they list the charcoal they sell on their website cuz I didn't see any there.

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              aveivy RE: uberathlete Jan 21, 2009 12:22 PM

              Not that I've ever seen.

              If you go, they'll probably have Big Green Egg, Basques Hardwood (from PQ) and one or two others. They tried real hard to talk me into briquettes (last longer, more consistent burn), and they carry a couple of brands (all natural, they stressed).

              I'm a little hardcore, so I stuck with lump charcoal. Between BGE's brand and Basques, I think I prefer Basques. So far, fewer impurities (i.e. rocks) and it does seem to burn nicely. I've had a load last >14 hours in a BGE, keeping a very stable temperature of 225F.

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            bbqD RE: uberathlete Jan 21, 2009 05:26 AM

            Ont Gas BBQ is the place. Try Basque Charcoal out of PQ, uses Maple wood and makes great BBQ. There's also a few local stores around Dundas and Ossington that carry it.

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              jayt90 RE: bbqD Jan 21, 2009 05:49 AM

              Buster Rhino sells Quebec maple lump charcoal. I have seen it at Rona as well, but more seasonal there.

              Buster Rhino's
              2001 Thickson Rd S, Whitby, ON L1N, CA

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                Davwud RE: bbqD Jan 21, 2009 07:00 AM

                I've seen this in Home Hardware during the winter.

                Other than that, like most others, OGB.


              2. Googs RE: uberathlete Jan 22, 2009 05:52 AM

                In addition to Ontario Gas Barbecues, another year round supplier for bbq goods is Sobie's. I tend to go there as it's much closer than OGB in Concord. After introducing new staff at Sobie's, they were a wee iffy, but I'm happy to report that my last visit was up to snuff. Here's a sample of their charcoal offerings:

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                  Davwud RE: Googs Jan 22, 2009 08:26 AM

                  I'd say more that a "Wee iffy." They downright p'ed me off. I vowed never to go back.

                  Should I give them a second chance??


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                    Googs RE: Davwud Jan 23, 2009 04:14 AM

                    Well for now the count is two negative and one positive experience since the change. On the good day (my last trip there) one of the old boys was in. He was able to give guidance to the newbie. It isn't as easy as it looks, but I think with adequate training they'll be okay. In other words, yes give it another shot. If your experience is different please hop back in your car and head off to Concord and please, please, please post here.

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                      Davwud RE: Googs Jan 23, 2009 04:22 AM

                      Are the Sobie's family still involved?? I got the very distinct impression the last time that they weren't.

                      Just to give you a nutshell idea of my last trip. I was salvaging a Webber gas grill. Someone got a new one, I got the old one. It needed a new burner, regulator and flavourizer bars. I went to Sobie's naturally and the guy there was trying to talk me into a $1K grill. I need like $100 worth of parts to fix the old thing. He was getting down right mad with me. It was truly weird.


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                        Kagemusha RE: Davwud Jan 23, 2009 07:18 AM

                        Life's short. That's why I go to OGB for parts. Saves time for better things an extra saved buck can't buy.

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                          Googs RE: Davwud Jan 24, 2009 04:42 AM

                          He gave you the hard-sell upsell? No salesperson would ever try that one on me and still expect to speak in a baritone. Were I you I wouldn't go back.

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                            embee RE: Davwud Jan 24, 2009 08:19 AM

                            Sobie's was sold a couple of years ago. It went from being a very high service, no pressure, reliable place to being (under the new owners) an extremely high pressure, sales oriented, almost sleazy place to shop. Their prices have always been high, and still are, but they used to offer product knowledge, good advice, and reasonable value overall. Today, they don't.

                            I still get stuff there, since they have various kinds of wood and accessories for which I would otherwise need to travel much further, but I would never buy an expensive new product there or trust them for a repair.

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                              Davwud RE: embee Jan 24, 2009 12:25 PM

                              You hit the nail right on the head.


                              Googs, if I go back, I'll let you know how it went.

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                                garlicandwingnut RE: glenp Feb 11, 2009 07:06 AM

                                FYI - few people (including retailers) are aware that charcoal is exempt from PST. It is an "exempt non-food item".
                                Neither Loblaws nor Can. Tire charge PST on charcoal but many do including Sobies and Longo's!

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                                  grandgourmand RE: glenp Feb 11, 2009 07:35 AM

                                  WEll, they haven't registered their domain name and the URL to their website is no longer valid. Shoudl probably get on that.

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                                    embee RE: grandgourmand Feb 11, 2009 11:54 AM

                                    Their website is fine ( www.sobies.com ). I hope their new management is also - no personal experience as yet.

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                                      grandgourmand RE: embee Feb 11, 2009 12:13 PM

                                      When I click it, it goes to some networking site. this message is at the top right:
                                      "sobies.com expired on 02/04/2009 and is pending renewal or deletion"

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                                        embee RE: grandgourmand Feb 11, 2009 12:38 PM

                                        www.sobies.com loads into my browser and then reloads when I refresh it. However, a whois search showed no such domain and the IP address for sobies.com resolved to www.appsitehosting.com


                                        1. re: embee
                                          Davwud RE: embee Feb 15, 2009 04:30 AM

                                          Loads fine for me too.


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                                            Googs RE: embee Feb 15, 2009 07:23 AM

                                            Sounds like both of you may have a hijacker. Be careful.

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                            jan.vroen RE: uberathlete Feb 19, 2009 11:18 AM

                            I've been using nothing but Maple Leaf charcoal in my Big Green Egg for about a year with great results. Rona has it in stock all year round, $16.50 for an 8kg bag.

                            The charcoal obsessives at The Naked Whiz rate Maple Leaf as one of the best: http://www.nakedwhiz.com/lump.htm

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                              grandgourmand RE: jan.vroen Feb 19, 2009 12:02 PM

                              Good tip, thanks.

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                                thebrewer RE: grandgourmand Mar 13, 2009 06:54 AM

                                Just to confirm that my long term local Home Hardware at Sunnybrook Plaza (Bayview & Eglinton) has 3 or more varieties year round including Maple Leaf and Big Green Egg. I usually buy Maple Leaf. I had forgotten about this source and had just got off the phone with Rona at Sheppard/Bayview who apparently do not have any in stock and do not carry it year round.

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                                  grandgourmand RE: thebrewer Mar 15, 2009 02:48 PM

                                  Thanks. I like the Maple Leaf brand.

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                                    ebay3392 RE: grandgourmand Mar 16, 2009 07:15 PM

                                    Whenever I am cross border shopping I pickup as many bags of Wegmans Lump Charcoal that can fit in my car. 10lb bag for $4.99 USD....have not found it as cheap in Canada as of yet. www.wegmans.com

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                                      jayt90 RE: ebay3392 Mar 16, 2009 08:03 PM

                                      I gorged on Kingsford lump charcoal at Food Basics 2 years ago. It was $.33/lb, which is a lot less than Wegman's, though only on for a week.

                                      The only problem with these specials is the the indifferent quality of the wood. It is from Georgia (don't know Wegman's specifically, but it will be from a large southern producer), It is labelled hardwood, but does not have the maple or fruitwood scent of better coals.

                                      And that is why I don't miss the Food Basics special, although I would buy in if they do it again.

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                                        ebay3392 RE: jayt90 Mar 17, 2009 04:23 PM

                                        Wow...I would have done the same...probably filled the SUV and cruised my regoin for FB's....never seen it that cheap....was that end of season? (going to read those flyers more thorough now)

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                                          jayt90 RE: ebay3392 Mar 17, 2009 05:19 PM

                                          No, it was early season, but Food Basics was sold to Metro after that. If the new management is smart, they will bring in Quebec maple charcoal.

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                                        Kagemusha RE: ebay3392 Mar 17, 2009 04:58 PM

                                        Lowe's in Brampton has run Royal Oak lump 8kg bags for about 9 bucks.

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