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ORyan Jan 19, 2009 07:55 AM

i dont really consider myself a true foodie, but i do love to eat. I love good food and i'm the guy who is always looking forward to his next good feast.

I do not know one single person who shares this passion. All of the people i know just eat when there hungry.....no passion for food, they eat the same repetitive typical stuff day in day out. Sometimes i try and get a friend to roll with me to a food spot but i can see the strong disinterest. Sometimes they will come but you can tell its more like they feel obliged since i asked them. For example, a friend once came with me to a top burger spot in NYC, after eating he made this comment "i could have made this at home" with a a tone that implied that he wasted his meal on the burger and fries. Whats funny is that his at home burger is comprised of the following, thawed wonder bread buns from the freezer,generic frozen meat patties,halfway stale veggies, and whatever cheese and sauce is sitting in the fridge door, lol.

At the end of the day i understand, since i'm sure that some of the people i know have passions in which i have no interest. So, for now, i'm the lone eater...time to explore some more of what NYC has to offer. Anyone else consider them self a lone eater?

  1. Demented Jan 27, 2009 02:49 PM

    I'll start by saying don't know what a "Foodie" is, my wife and one other friend share my passion for food.

    My wifes passion for good food started growing while we where dating.
    She was craft mac-n-cheese girl when we met, now if it's not made with the best ingredients she doesn't want to be bothered with it.

    Being retired I don't meet many new folks these days.

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      Gigi007 Feb 4, 2009 06:34 PM

      I would love to know how people define the word "foodie." I like food, but don't consider myself an expert on anything really. I think I can describe and write about my experiences in a way that provides information and insight into some dishes and the type of cuisine, but I don't get into the kind of detail that professional food critics and self-proclaimed "foodies" often do. I also have friends who dislike the term "foodie," and I find myself on the fence about whether or not to even use it in describing someone.

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        thew Feb 5, 2009 07:51 AM

        a foodie is like a trekkie, a dead head, or a movie-buff.

        someone whose hobby/interest is defining in their personality

    2. hyacinthgirl Jan 27, 2009 01:28 PM

      ORyan, I can relate. I took one friend to a chattered about Oaxacan hole in the wall. She proceeded to spend the night eating plain (yes, completely plain) tortillas, that came on the side of her "way too spicy" meal. Of course this is the same friend who refuses to eat any potato salad but her own (which is over-soft, peeled bakers potato islands bobbing in a sea of miracle whip. Nothing else), I don't know what I was thinking.
      I have several of the out-of-work artist type friends as well. They all have it in their head that somehow good food means expensive food. I've tried to prove them wrong any number of ways (off the beaten path $2 special places, doing my best to cook for them with fresh ingredients, actually paying for the entire meal). They'll go along with it here and there, but there are more of them than there are of me and the "let's all chip in for a pizza" mentality tends to win out.
      Bizarrely, all of my foodie friends seem to have run away to NY... maybe I should set you up : )

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        thew Jan 27, 2009 01:53 PM

        im a foodie in NYC who needs to be set p with some foodie cuties

        (i love a slant rhyme)

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        fredid Jan 23, 2009 09:29 AM

        ORyan - You're in NYC?! Call a ChowDown! (The moderators have a "how to" post here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/3676... ) One suggestion - Pick a day and a place, instead of waiting for everyone's preferences, which becomes too unwieldy! You'll meet lots of great foodies and hounds.

        In Boston, our ChowDowns have led to a ChowCrew/ChowGang - where we eat out together every weekend - It's terrific!

        1. Gio Jan 22, 2009 08:00 AM

          Thankfully my family and their friends were foodies, my own immediate family are foodies and when I joined a select group of gardeners in my town I found that not only were they exceptional horticulturists but people who enjoy good food where ever it's found and fabulous cooks in their own right. I consider myself very lucky. The other side of the skillet is as Googs mentioned above, when in the company of people who really couldn't care less about food I try to curb my enthusiasm.....

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            worktime Jan 22, 2009 11:53 AM

            givemecarbs, I didn't respond to the co-worker mashed potato comment. I like these people for the most part and they make my job easier so I just try to get along, I certainly am not going to change them.
            Wish me luck for tonight, wild rice with dinner, I just hoping my husband likes it or at least eats it! How adventuresome?!?!?

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              givemecarbs Jan 23, 2009 12:10 AM

              Good luck worktime! I hear you on the coworker thing. Helena posted in her column about someone's neighbor wanting to bring an unwelcome guest to the poster's party recently, and asking for advice. When it's your neighbor or someone you work with every day, you have to sometimes bite the inside of your cheek I know. When I told a co-worker once that I didn't care for instant mashed potatoes I got "oh but you can do So Much with them! Add bacon bits, sour cream, go nuts!" and I didn't even roll my eyes in response. She was a really nice person.

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              Googs Jan 23, 2009 04:23 AM

              It never dawned on me before that gardening and being a foodie would go hand in glove. Then I realized that I grow herbs inside my urban condo. I just wouldn't call myself a gardener. Oh if I had the space there would be vegetables popping up everywhere.

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                Wahooty Jan 23, 2009 06:33 AM

                Well, they don't...always. If urbanites are going to the effort to find space to grow things, then they are definitely pretty passionate about their food, but it's not such a no-brainer once you get out of town. I get a great deal of my foodie tendencies from my dad (he once remarked that he was proud of all of my accomplishments, but was particularly proud that I'd turned out to be a foodie), and he claimed the only flat, open space in our large but hilly backyard for his garden...including knocking down a couple of trees so that his tomatoes would have enough sunlight. However, he comes from a long line of farmers, and gardening runs strong through his family, yet I've seen his mother and sisters do some truly horrendous things to perfectly lovely food. I'm not sure I ever saw a fresh herb at my grandmother's house.

                They all do marvelous things with flowers, though. :)

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                neverlate Jan 29, 2009 07:34 AM

                Yes, gardeners are terrific original cooks, often making things you could never have in restaurants. Something about the freshness of the vegetables and the chi life force in the food that is so outstanding. Sometimes the food is so good and the company is so warm it's like a spiritual experience!

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                givemecarbs Jan 21, 2009 12:09 AM

                In my experience, kindred spirits, (in this case foodies), can be found in the most surprising places. Just found a new one tonight. I was playing warhammer online and my guild mate said he had to log to make dinner. I asked him what he was having, being a chowhound how could I resist? Well one thing lead to another and now he is sharing recipes and techniques with me when we aren't killing order toons. Apparently there is no real regional food in nevada, all the food has origins from elsewhere. So interesting. Maybe I find foodies so easily because I am so darn nosy. I really want to know what people are cooking and eating.

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                  enbell Jan 21, 2009 04:24 AM

                  Shoot, what part of Nevada?

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                    givemecarbs Jan 21, 2009 04:35 PM

                    He and his wife live in Los Vegas. I'm trying to get him to post on chowhound. I'll have to google up Basque. We had a big discussion last night on how dutch ovens are da awesome! I can't wait to hear about what he is cooking tonight. I'm glad to hear that Nevada does have some regional specialities.

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                      enbell Jan 21, 2009 04:51 PM

                      You will make a chowhound of him yet! Janetofreno was once in Reno, but now is in Vegas. Some of her posts might serve as a resource for you to pass on to your warhammer partner. Goodluck.

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                    c oliver Jan 21, 2009 06:50 AM

                    At least in Northern Nevada, you will find Basque restaurants. Just an fyi.

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                      enbell Jan 21, 2009 11:03 AM

                      True, and there are *bound* to be gems, at least over the mountain from where I have deduced you to be :)...Unless the poor 'gaming partner' really is out in the midle of nowhere (likely in NV I know)!

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                        worktime Jan 21, 2009 11:55 AM

                        ORyan, I totally understand your fustration. I like to cook and explore different foods, foodie I guess, but I don't know anybody that really shares my passion. I'm 40, my husband isn't a foodie, he likes food but very picky and never cooks, nor are any of the people we socialize with. I work with quit a few women of the same age but every one of them eat frozen meals and processed food, a comment today at lunch "you can make instant mashed potatoes pretty good if you add enough butter and stuff to them". I hate going to lunch with them because it's Chili's, Lonestar and such places. I think most people are too lazy to cook but they can tell you every dang new TV show coming on. Anyway sorry for the rant , my original point I certainly sympathize with you.

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                          flourgirl Jan 21, 2009 12:45 PM

                          That was pretty funny actually, for a rant :) I especially liked the bit about the instant mashed potatoes.

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                            givemecarbs Jan 21, 2009 04:44 PM

                            Oh I hear ya worktime! How did you react to the mashed potato comment? I would have pretended to have a coughing fit and run to the ladies room or something so that I could bang my head against the wall in peace. At least on chowhound we can find our own kind. I've slept on this post, it was the last one I devoured, er read last night and here is what I think. It sucks not to have someone right there to share good food with that really appreciates it. At least food makes me really happy, and that is a gift. If I am lucky enough to go out for a really good lunch, I'm walking on air the rest of the day. A boss (former thank goodness!) who disliked me once told me scornfully, it takes so little to make you happy. I just smiled.

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                              moh Jan 21, 2009 07:47 PM

                              Givemecarbs, it sounds like a complement that it takes so little to make you smile... that boss sounds like an unhappy person, we should be so grateful not to be like that.

                              I do know what you mean about having someone right there to savour the food with you. It is very cool to be happily eating with someone, or even better, with a bunch of happy eating people. I particularly miss having others around in Asian restos, where I want to try more than one dish, and where it is best to order things family style. I feel a little piggish when I order enough food for 4 and it is little old me by my lonesome (although I love the leftovers). I really like trying bites of food, and this is much harder on your own.

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                                givemecarbs Jan 23, 2009 12:44 AM

                                Thanks moh! I use that line of thinking a lot when dealing with difficult people, I comfort myself with the idea that at least I don't have to live in their skin. Yeah sharing can be so much fun, that sense of discovery is only enhanced when another willing explorer is by your side or across the table from you. I think Roger Ebert , the film critic is a real foodie. He can't taste or smell or swalow right now, but he wrote today on his journal about his beloved steak and shake.

                    2. Googs Jan 20, 2009 02:56 PM

                      No, but I might have been. I’ve noticed that when engaging my friends in conversation about where to dine it’s important to listen to them and their wants. I find it crucially important that I place my opinion as no more and no less important than theirs. If I approach with an air of authority or superiority then any advice proffered will fall on deaf ears. I find they respect my opinion more now that it’s tempered with modesty. They always ask me where we should eat. I note, though, that we don’t always go where I pick. You win some, you lose some. That’s friendship.

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                        Veggo Jan 20, 2009 03:06 PM

                        Googs, you would make a wonderful NFL or NBA referee...

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                          Googs Jan 20, 2009 04:31 PM

                          Thank you. I'll take my good ole' NHL. I am Canadian, eh.

                      2. Veggo Jan 20, 2009 11:27 AM

                        Creatures of like kind eventually find each other, whether it's level 16 chess players, life-master duplicate bridge players, garden worms copulating, Mensa members trisecting angles, or foodies chowing.
                        Be patient, my friend, and be sure to get outside your front door. That's when good things start.
                        V

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                          bdachow Jan 20, 2009 10:57 AM

                          I feel for you. But luckily I am surrounded by family and some friends who love food as well but I sometimes get the feeling that they think I'm a little off base. I tend to have all my meals planned before I even book airline tickets sometimes. Lol.
                          If you're looking for people to share your love of food, I'd suggest making friends with a couple of chefs. Most are in the industry for a love of food plus the added bonus that they usually know where to drink for cheap. But that's just my experience. :o)

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                            oana Jan 20, 2009 11:31 AM

                            Us too! :) Whatever trip we are planning it is food first :). We (meaning I :) read all about the destinations culinary history and local specialities and plan away accordingly :). Happy eating, Oana

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                              bdachow Jan 22, 2009 11:35 AM

                              Thanks Oana! My husband thinks I'm a little nutso but I prefer the word enthusiastic! I'm starting to rub off on him though, slowly but surely!

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                                oana Jan 22, 2009 11:48 AM

                                There is no escape! :).
                                Happy eating, Oana

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                                  bermudagourmetgoddess Jan 22, 2009 04:28 PM

                                  Yes, us too have restaurants picked before we book our tickets!!

                            2. oana Jan 20, 2009 10:29 AM

                              Reading this made me so sad and happy at the same time. Sad because I completely empathize with you. It is so difficult and frustrating to have a passion or appreciation and not to have people to share it with. Happy because it was a reminder of how amazingly lucky I am to be surrounded by food obsessives :). All we do is eat, drink, talk about food and plan our next meal :). Why don't you try hanging out at your local market; there are so many organized workshops and activities that you are sure to meet likeminded individuals there. You could take a cooking course or Wine course as food and wine usually go hand in hand :).
                              I know you were not asking for places to meet foodies but it is so important for you to have people to share this wonderful passion with so ...
                              Happy eating :) Oana

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                                c oliver Jan 20, 2009 11:00 AM

                                One of the joys of sharing the passion WITH someone is that you get to share the FOOD also/usually/at least a bite. So you get to try MORE things. YAY. Another reason I love my husband :)

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                                  oana Jan 20, 2009 11:26 AM

                                  lol :) absolutely :)
                                  happy eating, Oana

                              2. invinotheresverde Jan 20, 2009 09:06 AM

                                Considering DH and I both grew up on fishsticks and Kraft, we've turned out pretty well. We use fresh everything whenever possible (I never once saw a fresh herb in my mother's kitchen growing up) and there's nary a "cream of" soup to be found. We also drink quite well, which I think goes hand in hand.

                                Our friends eat well, but none of them are very food obsessed. Luckily, we have each other, as well as my younger sister, to experiment with.

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                                  moh Jan 20, 2009 03:53 AM

                                  "Anyone else consider them self a lone eater?"

                                  Nope! I know hundreds of eaters right here on Chowhound! This virtual community is a lot of fun, and they keep me company even when I am eating alone. I've found lots of really great food thanks to Hounds from many boards, and I am always looking out for that new thing to share with others.

                                  I have also fostered a lot of friendships with people who have shown interest in eating as much as I do. Eating is a major ice breaker! It is a very rewarding experience, and brings much joy to my life.

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                                    soupkitten Jan 21, 2009 12:11 PM

                                    nice post, Moh! rock on. everyone on chowhound loves to share food experiences with everyone else. nobody truly chows alone. . .

                                    to the op: sounds like you are just starting to make great food a major priority in your life. the thing about people who love food is that they usually love to talk about food, share recipes, etc with others who will appreciate it. lots of food lovers are probably right under your nose, so find them! talk about grilling recipes with your butcher, go hang out at the wine tasting (talk to the staff, not just the bored housewives looking for a cheap drunk), have a long conversation with your local cheesemonger. one conversation will lead to others, and introductions and leads to the best chow in your area will follow, and you'll discover that you suddenly know lots of foodies.

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                                      cayjohan Jan 21, 2009 01:33 PM

                                      >>nobody truly chows alone<<

                                      So true. After speaking with my 81 year old dad about a *change* that happened in the US yesterday, he made mention of the multicultural stew he ate and ate with while serving in the Merchant Marines, and how that eating experience gave hime perspective that he never could have imagined. Change, indeed. Talking with purveyors, querying farmers at the market, getting to know other food lovers does change your life. Eat with someone, and you will know a lot about them. And they you...presto, new food freiends!

                                      Cay

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                                      yamalam Feb 2, 2009 01:37 PM

                                      It is a great ice breaker! I have gone from co-worker/acquaintance to friend many a time based on the response I get from "What'd you have for lunch?" or from interest in what I had for lunch. I am compatible with 95% of people who think it's cool that I found a new Burmese hole in the wall.

                                    3. bitsubeats Jan 19, 2009 03:59 PM

                                      I'm lucky, I have a boyfriend who loves to cook with me, for me, and enjoys going to random hole in the wall places with me. What makes me happiest though is the fact that he likes kimchi. My mother always said that was most important (:

                                      I also have a younger sister around the same age as me (she's 22 and I'm 25) who loves to go out to eat with me and cook. Her fiance also loves to eat and recently went to Seoul with my sister and my mother for a month. He ate everything and loved it all.

                                      1. JungMann Jan 19, 2009 12:08 PM

                                        I sometimes find it hard to believe what a dearth of foodies there is in my life, especially considering that I live in New York. Most of my peers are interested in good food, but they are content to equate good with "trendy" or "expensive," and are little interested in going out of their way to find what is good outside their comfort zone. As it is, the only true foodies I know are a couple of folks quite senior to me, but it beats trekking to Queens by myself for an exciting Sichuanese meal or a solitary table for one.

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                                          Athena Jan 19, 2009 01:06 PM

                                          ORyan, thank you for making me realise that I should not take my good fortune in good food loving friends for granted, and that includes my 25-year-old son who loves to cook, and his friends that love to eat at my his house and my house :-)

                                        2. Midlife Jan 19, 2009 11:52 AM

                                          We have a lot of friends who are into good food but not into exploration of new (to them) things. They like good Italian and French cuisine but there's no way we can get most of them near an 'authentic Chinese, Japanese (a few love sushi, but that's all), Thai or Indian restaurant (to single out a few).

                                          This gets into some of the huge topics that have been posted here about where people are from, what their life experiences have been and how interested they are in food exploration based on those things. I traveled extensively (word-wide) on business most of my career and learned to appreciate lots of different cuisines, but I still think I'd be open to them if I hadn't. I find it disappointing to go to a Chinese restaurant and order Wor Won Ton Soup, Broccoli Beef, and Orange Chicken all the time when there is so much more interesting to enjoy.

                                          Where we live, most 'more authentic' cuisine is a minimum of 45 minutes drive, but I'd do it gladly, if we had people to share it with. We're all Baby-boomers so we're at a point where we're pretty much set in our preferences. Disappointing!

                                          Food Frustrated in South OC.

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                                            thew Jan 19, 2009 11:58 AM

                                            i know many. YAY

                                            the ex (sigh) and i loved to explore food.

                                            and btw it is not a generational thing, AO> i'm 48.

                                            but then every generation thinks they invented good sex, good drugs, good music, and knowledge how to party

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                                              c oliver Jan 19, 2009 12:07 PM

                                              I'm 61 and I KNOW that MY generation really did invent all those things :)

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                                                Agent Orange Jan 19, 2009 12:50 PM

                                                It wasn't a put down at all. Just something I've noticed. There seems to be more of an interest in exotic food and (for some) from-scratch cooking among my peers than, say, the peers of my parents (most of whom are of the Cream-of-Something soup generation.) Not scientific, but an observation of mine.

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                                                  Midlife Jan 19, 2009 02:08 PM

                                                  How old are your parents?? "Cream-of-Something" soup would suggest to me either a lack of experience with food, a life of being catered to with "I only eat" meals, or possibly dietary considerations from health issues or aging.

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                                                flourgirl Jan 20, 2009 04:17 AM

                                                Same here. I have quite a few friends who love great food (and a couple who can cook really well too) but their love of food is mostly limited to all things italian, seafood and steak. I don't know anyone (besides my husband - and even this is iffy) who is really adventurous and passionate about exploring food.

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                                                Agent Orange Jan 19, 2009 11:03 AM

                                                Most of my friends are undergraduates or just a few years out of college. A good number of them are as passionate about food as I am. I actually know several guys, like me, who like to cook. And there are always a few people who are game to try a hole-in-the-wall in a sketchy part of town if it might be good. Not to say that I don't know many Applebee's/Hamburger Helper types, but I'd say a fair number of my peers are chowhounds, whether they label themselves as such or not.

                                                I wonder if it's a generational thing, thanks in part to the gourmet food trend and the age of Food Network.

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                                                  ORyan Jan 19, 2009 11:33 AM

                                                  Hmm i dunno.

                                                  I'm in my early 20's and the people i know are pretty much only into liquor

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                                                    KTinNYC Jan 19, 2009 12:01 PM

                                                    Are they into good liquor or lousy liquor? If they are into good liquor than they are probably prone to slip into really being into food as well.

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                                                      TampaAurora Jan 22, 2009 07:45 AM

                                                      "prone to slip into really being into food" - sounds like a good thing to me but made me laugh since it also read - good liquor as a "gateway drug" for good food. The phrasing makes it sound like the only food you could slip into is illicit.

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                                                  HotMelly Jan 19, 2009 08:31 AM

                                                  There is another foodie I have spoken with here in south Florida that was quite a radio celebrity here. I choose not to tell her name, but now she lives in the New England area. I wish she was still here in south Florida. I really enjoyed her show.

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