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Minosharp Knife sharpener

theel Jan 14, 2009 04:43 AM

Anybody ever use one of these? I am thinking of getting one to keep my knives sharp, including a Global G2 and a Wusthof Chef's knife.

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    youdonut RE: theel Jan 14, 2009 07:06 AM

    these kind of sharpeners are ok for cheap knives but for expensive profesional knives i would recomend finding a profesional to sharpen them for you. it would be like taking your $150,000 ferrari to joe's discount garage on the corner to have the engine overhauled.

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      bnemes3343 RE: theel Jan 14, 2009 07:15 AM

      I don't really understand how people can afford to send their knives out to be sharpened, given that you're talking roughly $10 per knife and, if you actually use them, they would need to be sharpened at least every two weeks (so your two knives would run $500 per year to sharpen). I have a Chef's Choice M130 sharpener. cost is $130 or so. It does a fantastic job.


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      1. re: bnemes3343
        mr jig RE: bnemes3343 Jan 14, 2009 07:21 AM

        Surely you are not using that chefs Choice on your knives that frequently.?
        In heavy household use my knives see my Chef's once a year and a steel after each use.

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          bnemes3343 RE: mr jig Jan 14, 2009 09:30 AM

          Once a year? No way. At least every two weeks. I should probably be more vigilant about using the steel (will try), but once a year? I take a sheet of paper and see if I can slice it in half by passing my knife through it. If not, it's not sharp enough. And it's not like I'm cutting on a hard surface; I have a wooden cutting board. Do me a favor and tell me if your chef's knife can pass the paper test after nearly a year. If so, I will become a steet fanatic.

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            ziggylu RE: bnemes3343 Jan 14, 2009 12:36 PM

            Seriously, you're running your knife through a Chef's Choice machine every two weeks?? Yikes.

            I take mine in have them done professionally on whetstones. My chef's knives go in typically once a year. My other knives average every 18-24 mos depending ont he knife and how often I use it.

            I do steel regularly and I have a diamond steel I'll use between sharpenings as well if the steel doesn't quite seem to get an edge back. And yes, my knives are sharp.

            I'm trying to get to where I can do them on the stones myself but am not quite there yet. A bit more practice.

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              bnemes3343 RE: ziggylu Jan 15, 2009 03:33 AM

              Ok, I have been beaten into submission and realize I have not been doing my knives a favor. I am going to be in Atlanta this weekend and am having my knives professionally sharpened (by Eric Edge). He has indicated that they should be sharpened no more often than every 6 months to a year). Looking forward to having them done the proper way this weekend.

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                chuckl RE: bnemes3343 Jan 15, 2009 10:52 AM

                good for you, please give us an update on the results and what you've learned

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          HaagenDazs RE: bnemes3343 Jan 14, 2009 08:35 AM

          I agree with mr. jig's thoughts here. Sharpening is not an every other week kind of event. Honing is an everyday/every use kind of thing but sharpening involves the removal of metal and the grinding of an edge. Those of us who have our knives sharpened professionally need to do so only once a year or every 2 years depending on the use of a particular knife. The use of a counter top sharpener every other week is, by far, overkill and it will severely shorten the life of your knives.

          Your comparison of professional sharpening and a counter top machine is not valid.

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            bnemes3343 RE: HaagenDazs Jan 14, 2009 09:32 AM

            Totally agree that professional sharpening is better than a counter top device. But, I am having serious difficulty seeing how you can go a year or two between sharpenings. Your knives stay sharp? You could slice a sheet of paper in half after a year of use?

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              HaagenDazs RE: bnemes3343 Jan 14, 2009 09:46 AM

              I use a Lansky Crock Stick every now and then but other than that, I just use a steel. I cook a lot at home and I don't see any need for constant, every other week re-sharpening. I'd be willing to bet (and someone with experience in a mid to high end restaurant please chime in) but a respectable restaurant that uses good quality knives probably gets their knives sharpened only once every couple of months and they are using their tools constantly.

              If my knives fail the paper test, I'll use the crock stick sharpener, after a year or 2 of use, again it depends on the frequency of use on a particular knife, I'll get mine sharpened by the same guy that does Alton Brown's knives here in Atlanta.

              I'm wondering if the constant machine sharpening has worn your knives down so much that your really require the use of a counter top sharpener to get any real edge to them. You sharpened them so much that a regular steel doesn't do any good. (?)

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                bnemes3343 RE: HaagenDazs Jan 14, 2009 09:52 AM

                Ok, I am going to sharpen my knives and then use a steel religously every time I use them. If they stay sharp (and pass the paper test), I will concede the point). I would also like to hear from a professional about how often they have to sharpen their knives. BTW, the Chef's Choice has an idiot proof steel to pass the knife through and ensure that you get the right angle.

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                  bnemes3343 RE: HaagenDazs Jan 14, 2009 09:53 AM

                  Who in Atlanta sharpens your/AB's knives? I am going to be in Atlanta this weekend and it would be great to bring my knives along and get them sharpened.

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                    HaagenDazs RE: bnemes3343 Jan 14, 2009 10:04 AM

                    Read through this:


                    For what it's worth, Alton Brown alludes to the fact that he has his knives sharpened once every 6 months. I can only assume that's with regular steel use and not with any extra sharpening like with a ceramic crock stick-type thing.

                    Most of it is common knowledge to a person who cooks/uses knives a lot, but it's got some info there. If you're really going to be here in Atlanta this would be a great opportunity to get your knives done by a guy who is a real pro. Most of us would be a little cautious handing our knives over to some guy with a grinding wheel, but this guy is good. His name is Geoff Edges (no joke) and his son works with him now too. I have in the past only dropped off my knives at locations where he comes by and sharpens but they now evidently have a physical location where you can go (though I haven't been there yet). I THINK this is their physical address:

                    3715 Northcrest Rd. Suite 35
                    Doraville, Ga 30340

                    Contact info is: The Bladesmith 770-458-3102
                    Email: bladesmith@mindspring.com

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                      bnemes3343 RE: HaagenDazs Jan 14, 2009 10:18 AM

                      Thanks for the info. We are taking the train there, so bringing my knives along won't be an issue. Looks this address is just 15 miles from where we're staying (although I wasn't looking to rent a car). But I would really love to have them professionally sharpened. I have two nice chef's knives (8" and a 9"), a Santuko and a paring knife that I'd want sharpened along with my wife's wimpy excuse for a chef's knife (no, of course I don't really need this many knives, I just like to buy them once in a while)

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                        HaagenDazs RE: bnemes3343 Jan 14, 2009 10:26 AM

                        You can always mail them to him... that and there are some drop off locations. Email them and they can help. They will do special visits to you if you request it but I'd imagine that would cost a little bit extra. If you can' tell from the Good Eats link, he has a sharpener in his van. Sounds goofy, I know, but if the chefs at some of Atlanta's most respected restaurants can trust him then I sure can.

                        This guy does all the mid/high end restaurants in Atlanta and surrounding area.

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                          HaagenDazs RE: bnemes3343 Jan 14, 2009 10:48 AM

                          Also, ask these guys the disadvantages of using these counter top knife sharpeners. You might be surprised at why they aren't the greatest of inventions.

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                            bnemes3343 RE: HaagenDazs Jan 14, 2009 11:58 AM

                            Looks like they are available on Monday to sharpen my knives. I will certainly ask them about the pros and cons of the counter top sharpener. If I only had to have them sharpened once a year, I wouldn't use the counter top machine anymore.

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                              HaagenDazs RE: bnemes3343 Jan 14, 2009 12:17 PM


                              The biggest problem with these sharpeners is that they are set at angles that don't necessarily match what the knife was made for.

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                                bnemes3343 RE: HaagenDazs Jan 20, 2009 12:23 PM

                                Well, I ended up taking 6 knives to Eric Edge on Monday. 8" and 9" chefs, slicing knife, santuko, boning and paring. Amazingly it was only $27 total for all the knives. Much less than I had expected. I just got home and unpacked them and had a go at an onion with my 8". Unbelievable! I may be the next J Pepin now... Never had knives this sharp.

                                His take on sharpening and honing was to hone when they are not cutting the way you want them to and sharpen when the honing doesn't bring them back. Maybe as often as twice a year, depending on use. Thanks for everyone's input on this. I won't be going to Atlanta every time I need them sharpened, but will definitely look for someone local.

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                                  HaagenDazs RE: bnemes3343 Jan 20, 2009 12:53 PM

                                  Glad to hear it worked out for you! And again, they do accept and return knives via the mail, so in the event you don't find a guy that's good near you, you can always turn to UPS/FedEx.

                                  As Pepin said in one of his recent shows on PBS, "it is a real pleasure cooking with a sharp knife."

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                                    bnemes3343 RE: HaagenDazs Jan 21, 2009 04:28 AM

                                    Might go that route. I asked him if there was anyone good in New York City and, surpisingly, he didn't think there were too many good ones. Hard to believe in a city with thousands of restaurants, but might be the case.

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                                      Cary RE: bnemes3343 Jan 21, 2009 08:40 AM

                                      Korin offers sharpening services in NYC. A good choice for your Global perhaps.

                    2. re: HaagenDazs
                      dscheidt RE: HaagenDazs Jan 14, 2009 12:42 PM

                      Restaurants I'm familiar with have their knives swapped (they're leased) every week or two. Cooks that use their own knives sharpen them as they need it, generally more often that that. For prep cooks, that's pretty much every day or so.

                      My experience with most people who say they can get by with sharpening once a year is that they've got dull knives. They may not be as dull as some people's, but they're rarely sharp.

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                      chuckl RE: bnemes3343 Jan 14, 2009 09:54 AM

                      absolutely yes. If your knife is properly sharpened once or twice a year as mine are, and they are decent knives to begin with (shun, forschner, wusthoff, henckels, MAC, f. dick) and you hone them after every use with a ceramic rod they will maintain their edge for months. Sharpening them every couple weeks indicates a problem with either your knives or your honing technique.

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                        bnemes3343 RE: chuckl Jan 14, 2009 09:58 AM

                        I have some pretty nice knives. Clearly I am not honing them often enough, as the overwhelming consensus seems to be that every two weeks is way too often.

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                  queenie RE: theel Jan 14, 2009 07:57 AM

                  I have and use the Minosharp Plus and I think it works very well. I was gifted with a set of Globals several years ago and am very protective of them. I called the Global rep in NY to ask for sharpening help/info and he suggested I use the ceramic rod periodically and then sharpen as needed with the Minosharp. He suggested I take them to a professional every year or so as needed. I already had the ceramic rod so I purchased the minosharp (from Amazon I think) and it has done a very good job keeping my knives sharp and it is way easy to use. I don't feel comfortable sharpening them myself without an idiot proof device such as this one. I've yet to send them out for professional sharpening but probably will do so soon.

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                    theel RE: queenie Jan 14, 2009 08:24 AM

                    Sharpener and send them out once a year? I was hoping to do one or the other. I guess I'll have to make the trip to get them done professionally afterall. Thanks guys.

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                      billieboy RE: theel Jan 14, 2009 10:13 AM

                      Using an electric sharpener is deadly on good knives and every two weeks???
                      Two things...first you hone BEFORE you use the knife, not after. The little teeth you are trying to align sag as it's sitting around, so hone first.
                      Buy yourself a japanese waterstone about 1200 grit and the cheapest crap knife you can get at the local dollar store and practice for about an hour. It is not hard.

                  2. HaagenDazs RE: theel Jan 14, 2009 10:54 AM


                    We've kind of gone off on tangents here, but my suggestion is do not buy one of these machines. Using them can potentially ruin your knives. For one thing, Global and Wusthof knives are not made the same and the angles of the cutting edge are not the same. By using a sharpening device like this you are re-forming the angles to whatever the Minosharp people manufacture it to be. You're better off finding a local, professional knife sharpener.

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                      ziggylu RE: HaagenDazs Jan 14, 2009 12:42 PM

                      FWIW, the Minosharp is not an electric machine. It's a handheld device with two whetstone wheels. YOu need to use water with it. It's designed for use on Globals so using on a Wusthof would not be recommended. I believe Global actually used to market it under their name a few years back.

                      I sell the Minosharp in the shop I work at. I don't use it myself but I do think it's a better option than the electric machines. We typically recommend it as a maintenance device to be used in combination with professional sharpening.

                    2. alanbarnes RE: theel Jan 14, 2009 04:09 PM

                      Bad idea. The bevel of your Wusthof is set at one angle, the bevel of the Global at another. I don't know what the angle of the Minosharp is (I'm assuming it's pretty acute, since the website refers to Japanese blades), but it's guaranteed to be wrong for at least one of the two knives you mentioned.

                      If you want a good sharpener, I'm a big fan of these:


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                        theel RE: alanbarnes Jan 17, 2009 05:59 AM

                        I love seeing so many people passionate about their knives. Thanks for keeping up the thread.

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                        tomishungry RE: theel Jan 21, 2009 02:24 PM

                        The Minosharp is for Globals and other knives with the Global bevel.

                        The Minosharp plus is for knives with the traditional Wusthof/Henckels type of bevel.

                        I ran through the specs when I was buying my Minosharp plus. Don't mix and match the bevel types. Some of the literature suggests the Minosharp Plus is a "universal" sharpener that can be used for both types of knives. I tried a Global through my Minosharp Plus and it took me some time on a whetstone to restore it's edge.

                        I'll echo the recommendation to get a stone and learn how to use it. I've gone through many of the sharpening toys available and so far, nothing's beat the diamond and ceramic stones I've been using. I destroyed a couple of cheap knives learning how to do this before the internet, but nowadays there are plenty of faqs on the web, as well as video links on how to sharpen a knife by hand.

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