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AlexNoVA Jan 11, 2009 03:57 PM

After a decade up here, I finally decided to try pho. I had some last week (Pho Golden Cow) and it was good, but naturally I have no basis for comparison. What are some good places to try in NoVA?

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    mordacity Jan 11, 2009 04:38 PM

    Pho 75 in Rosslyn is my favorite, mostly for being right by my apartment. Servings are huge, the meat and broth flavorful, though I'd like to see some fresh cilantro and a little more lime.

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      ktmoomau Jan 11, 2009 05:56 PM

      Second Pho75, especially since I have been craving it lately, of course, I live in Arlington since it is close.

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        littlew1ng Jan 12, 2009 06:35 AM

        yes. yum.

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          kubasd Feb 9, 2009 02:02 PM

          I definitely back up Pho75 in arlington.... It's the perfect saturday morning food. It's always been a bit busy when I've gone, but it's well worth it!

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        chaofun Feb 9, 2009 03:25 PM

        I adore Pho 75. I also practically live next door to it. It is one of my go-to breakfasts. If you go in the morning, the plate of limes, peppers, bean sprouts and basil is fresh instead of looking like its been sitting out for a while. Plus its not nearly as busy.

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        xdcx Jan 11, 2009 04:52 PM

        pho hot in annandale.

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          takadi Jan 12, 2009 01:42 AM

          Definitely would NOT recommend pho hot. They are hit and miss, mostly miss. Pitch dark broth, tastes like dead water, old meat, very off smells.

          Pho 75 definitely has a good spice profile but is definitely overrated...not that great. Always seems watered down when I eat there and they usually use way too many noodles. Not to mention they almost ALWAYS serve it to me lukewarm rather than piping hot.

          Pho 50 in Loemans plaza used to be good, but they've been watering down their broth and adding more MSG.

          Pho Cong Ly on Backlick seems to be in its prime right now. They've changed a bit, but it's still pretty damn good, probably the best in the area. They serve the pho almost Northern style, strong anise and pepper flavors, but lately they've toned it down.

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            Ericandblueboy Jan 12, 2009 06:25 AM

            I've been to Pho Hot a couple of times in the last two months and both times I had great pho. My favorites are Golden Cow and Pho Hot. If you're in the Golden Cow neighborhood, you can try the Pho 75 across the street (but I would skip Pho 50). Down Graham Road (at the intersection of Lee) is Pho Sate. They have crispy crullers which goes very nicely in a bowl of pho. The most flavorful meats are the brisket and well done flank, throw in some tripe and tendon if you feel adventurous.

            BTW, I'm talking about the Golden Cow at Rt 50 and Graham Road. Never been to its other branch.

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              takadi Jan 12, 2009 01:20 PM

              Pho Sate is definitely amazing. I would also try their dry noodle dishes, they are pretty good (Hu tieu I believe).

              I don't mean to be condescending, but I honestly don't get the hype about Pho 75. Yea it's been around for a while, it has a good reputation, especially outside the vietnamese community, but I feel it has gone significantly downhill since the 90's (at least when I tried it when I was younger). In fact, most pho restaurants have managed to decrease to quality of their pho lately, a notable one being pho hoa. I feel Pho Cong Ly is the only pho I've tried so far that truly expresses flavors that harkens back to the day where pho used to be really really good.

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                flipeatery Jan 12, 2009 02:07 PM

                Pho Sate is probably the best one I've been to....I think Pho Cong Ly is alright and you might want to try Pho 495 in Sringfield too which is pretty good.

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                  MikeR Jan 12, 2009 09:04 PM

                  What's the sauce in the small dish that they serve at :Pho Sate that I haven't seen at other pho shops? I asked the waitress once and she said "sate sauce."

                  I wasn't sure what to do with it. I tried dipping some meat into it and it was pretty tasty.

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                    takadi Jan 12, 2009 09:38 PM

                    You really can do whatever you want with it, but I love putting it directly in the pho, and I always order extra because it's so freaking awesome.

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                    takadi Feb 20, 2009 11:43 AM

                    I have really bad news: I think Pho Cong Ly switched chefs. Pitch black soup, overwhelming spice, muddy flavors, a ton of MSG...it's a shame. I had the best bowl of pho in more than a decade just a few weeks ago

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                  PollyG Jan 12, 2009 12:22 PM

                  I've never had the experience you describe at Pho Hot. Our biggest complaint is that sometimes they don't have the saw-tooth leaf herb. But then again, most places in this area don't have that on the greens plate! They are currently our favorite Pho place.

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                    ulrath Jan 12, 2009 12:24 PM

                    Disagree on Pho Hot. We go to the one in Centreville all the time and it has been quite good.

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                      takadi Jan 12, 2009 01:09 PM

                      Not sure about the centreville location but the pho hot in annandale has a pretty bad reputation in some parts of the vietnamese community. I only remember two times where I had a good experience there, the rest was just awful

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                        Steve Jan 12, 2009 02:17 PM

                        Pho Hot has been outstanding both times I've been there. Remarkably better than what is usually available elsewhere.

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                          takadi Jan 12, 2009 09:40 PM

                          I guess it's a love hate situation, or perhaps I've only been there on their bad days. My uncle absolutely loves pho hot, but it seems everytime I go there, I just don't enjoy their food at all. Maybe I'm going at the wrong times, when they use stale soup or meat

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                            takadi Feb 20, 2009 11:41 AM

                            I went back to Pho Hot the other day. I stand by my word

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                        chowser Jan 12, 2009 03:16 PM

                        I agree about Pho Cong Ly. Even their regular chicken soup w/ noodles is very good, great broth. I think it's always been good--I think we went about 10 years ago, but we moved away for a few years and I still enjoy it. Perfect for this weather.

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                        Pho Cong Ly Restaurant
                        6671 Backlick Rd, B Springfield, VA

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                      VirginiaPepper Jan 11, 2009 05:42 PM

                      We like Viet House (South Rt 1 - Alexandria). They serve fresh culantro (ngo gai) along with the usual basil, sprouts, lime, jalapenos, etc. YES.....you read the spelling right...cUlantro. Looks different, but tastes just like cilantro. Outstanding!

                      It's in the same plaza as Fast Eddies and El Eden Mercado.

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                        AlexNoVA Jan 12, 2009 05:11 PM

                        Pho Golden Cow (@ Bailey's) does too. I stuffed a whole leaf in my mouth not knowing what it was. "Mmmm... salad greens! Oh wait...." lol

                      2. Dennis S Jan 12, 2009 12:19 PM

                        Pho Reston 75 in Reston - NOT to be confused with Pho 75 (which I evade).

                        1. ballston01 Jan 12, 2009 01:16 PM

                          My wife (who is Vietnamese) and I like the pho at Pho 75 in Falls Church (near Loemans Plaza).

                          We do not, however, like the pho at the Pho 75 in Rosslyn. The two Pho 75 locations have the same name, but not the same pho. Although our home (in the Ballston area) is much closer to the Rosslyn location than the Falls Church location, we always travel to the Falls Church location for our pho.

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                          Pho 75
                          3103 Graham Rd, Falls Church, VA 22042

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                            Ericandblueboy Jan 12, 2009 01:50 PM

                            My pet peeve at Pho 75 is that they don't serve anything other than pho. One day I walked in the Banh Mi DC store next door and got myself a couple of cha gio, then I went to Pho 75. While I was waiting for my pho, I ate the cha gio. I was thinking about getting the fried cruller from Banh Mi DC today and bringing that to Pho 75 but I ended up at Gold Cow instead. The chicken and pork pastries at Banh Mi DC are delicious but their Banh Mi really isn't all that good.

                            Where do you guys go for Vietnamese food other than pho?

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                              Dennis S Jan 12, 2009 05:33 PM

                              My pet peeve is that they don't serve anything but pho and they don't to IT well.

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                                Ericandblueboy Jan 13, 2009 04:16 AM

                                Ouch!

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                                ballston01 Jan 13, 2009 01:36 PM

                                I think you'll find that the best pho is found at restaurants that specialize only in pho.

                                If it's banh mi you want, I recommend Ba Le Bakery in Falls Church. As to other types of Vietnamese food, that depends on what you want.

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                                2822 Graham Rd, Falls Church, VA

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                                  Ericandblueboy Jan 13, 2009 01:49 PM

                                  I agree. I was just asking where else to go to get authentic Vietnamese cuisine (other than pho and banh mi). The more exotic the food, the better. How 'bout stuff your wife eats but you wouldn't touch?

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                                    ballston01 Jan 15, 2009 08:23 AM

                                    I don't know much about food I haven't eaten. For example, I've stayed away fresh durian and from Vietnamese dishes that use a type of very fatty pork pâté, and, as a consequence, I can't tell you much about them.

                                    As to authenticity, I get the distinct impression that most of the Vietnamese food served in Eden Center is authentic.

                                    If it's something different you want, you might want to try the vegetarian food at Cafe Trung Nguyen, a hole-in-the-wall take-out place in Eden Center. When I took a trip to Vietnam a number of years ago, one of my favorite restaurants was the Tin Nghia Vegetarian Restaurant (located near the Ben Thanh Market in central Saigon). In Vietnam, vegetarian cuisine is eaten for religious reasons by certain Buddhists. Although Cafe Trung Nguyen is not as good as the Tin Nghia Vegetarian Restaurant, it's the only Vietnamese vegetarian place I know of in the Washington area.

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                                      Lori D Jan 15, 2009 09:06 AM

                                      I'm pretty sure I've had non-vegetarian banh mi at Cafe Trung Nguyen. One somewhat different thing that they have (that I've never tried) is fresh sugarcane juice.

                                      My current favorite place in Eden Center is Tay Do.

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                                        ballston01 Feb 8, 2009 08:41 AM

                                        You're right about Cafe Trung Nguyen being non-vegetarian. I went there for the first time in a long time and found that it had changed. It's no longer vegetarian.

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                                      takadi Jan 15, 2009 09:29 AM

                                      I don't know if it's something that's icky to westerners, but Hai Duong in Eden center sells the most phenomenal Cha Ca (grilled tumeric fish).

                              3. Bob W Jan 12, 2009 06:59 PM

                                The young lady who washes my hair when I get a hair cut in Centreville came here from Vietnam 15 months ago tells me that the Pho Hot in C'ville is really good, so we plan to give it a try.

                                I'll also cast a vote for Pho 98 in Chantilly, which has been uniformly good the several times we've had their pho. Their combo noodle bowls also make a great meal.

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                                  oneautumnday Jan 20, 2009 09:53 AM

                                  If you're referring to the Pho Golden Cow on Rt 50 and Graham Rd in Falls Church then I think you should meander across the street to the Loehman's center and try Pho 50 - it's my favorite place to go. Nothing flashy about it and maybe the meat's a little bland on occasion but the broth is wonderful and greasy exactly the way you want comfort Pho to be.

                                  1. ammrdh Feb 6, 2009 12:25 PM

                                    I always go to Viet House in fairfax because it is easier (not to mention less hazardous) than venturing into the Eden Center.

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                                      leslielj Feb 8, 2009 02:06 PM

                                      No one has mentioned Pho Bistro in Centreville. I think they have great broth and fresh meat. The service there is very good.

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                                        Dennis S Feb 9, 2009 05:30 AM

                                        I saw yesterday they have another post in Ashburn. I went once to the C-ville location. I thought it was good, but didn't hit it out of the park. If I lived closer I might frequent more often.

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                                          dpan Feb 9, 2009 05:36 AM

                                          Shhhhhhhh....this place is packed enough during the peak periods, we don't need more people to make the wait for a table unbearable :)

                                          I've been going there since they opened, and always liked the friendliness of the staff and the piping hot soups. We've also been going to the Pho Hot which opened recently down the street. I like both places but Pho Bistro is much busier for some reason.

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                                            antepiedmont Mar 4, 2009 07:43 PM

                                            I haven't tried the pho there yet but the banh xeo (Seafood Pancake) -- a crispy crepe generously stuffed with seafood and bean sprouts -- is very good. Also they provide plenty of lettuce to wrap it with for dipping. For some reason a lot of the places around here are stingy with the lettuce. And btw there was NO lettuce served with my cha gio. Go figure.

                                            i didn't think much of the "steak cubes" either. It's just a pretty ordinary stir fry with diced marinated eye round and bell peppers.

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                                            marcbjohnson Feb 24, 2009 08:44 AM

                                            Like the majority of the people on here, I think Pho75 is the best. I literally just walked in the house from eating at Pho75 in Herndon (I have a cold, and I believe Pho is the cure all of all cure alls). It is really, really, really good.

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                                              Dennis S Feb 24, 2009 10:38 AM

                                              Hard to beat a place you can walk to. Have you gotten over to Pho Reston75 (no affiliation)? IMO it tops Pho75 hands down.

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                                                kneelconqueso Mar 1, 2009 04:10 PM

                                                maybe its just a taste difference issue, but i'm going to have to disagree.

                                                the pho reston 75's pho lacked strong beef flavor, and seemed to compensate with excess star anise, and the operation just works better at pho 75. the food comes faster and the service is more efficient.

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                                                  Dennis S Mar 1, 2009 05:13 PM

                                                  And I'm fine with disagreement on good points. I worry about Pho 75 cheating a bit after busy periods, and I like PR 75's fuller menu. I'll go back to P75 to check the broth - I always have 1-4 spoons of straight broth when it's first brought (no matter where I am) and Pho Reston 75's is really good.

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                                              mphan Mar 13, 2009 06:15 PM

                                              My recommendation goes to Pho 495. Best pho and they take credit cards.

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