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Best whitefish salad?

food10011 Jan 8, 2009 09:25 AM

Can be from anywhere, but must not be made with too much mayonnaise, or contain celery. Any suggestions?

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    markabauman RE: food10011 Jan 8, 2009 09:29 AM

    Not sure about the celery, but try either Russ & Daughters or Barney Greengrass. Might also check with Zabar's.

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      small h RE: markabauman Jan 8, 2009 09:43 AM

      Russ & Daughters definitely contains no celery. It's a whitefish/salmon mix, if that makes a difference. And it's awesome.

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        meatme RE: small h Jan 11, 2009 10:50 AM

        Too salty for me. Zabar's has celery, but it's tastier, smokier, and less salty.

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      sardinefan RE: food10011 Jan 8, 2009 09:38 AM

      This is an aside, but has anyone tried Bering cisco yet?

      1. ellenost RE: food10011 Jan 8, 2009 11:12 AM

        Have you tried the whitefish salad from Tal Bagel, Daniel's (Third Ave. & E. 37St.) or Agata & Valentina (almost no mayo)? All three are great and I don't believe contain any celery.

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          Lettucepray RE: ellenost Jan 8, 2009 11:21 AM

          Zabar's is too much mayo

          Russ & Daughters = the best...hands down

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            City Kid RE: ellenost Jan 9, 2009 07:34 AM

            Agata & Valentina's is the best anywhere -- jsut enough mayo to bind the whitefish together. Zabar's has way too much mayo. Most others also have too much mayo plus sugar, for some odd reason.

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              pups224 RE: City Kid Jan 11, 2009 03:07 AM

              Ditto for A & V's. Large chunks of whitefish, not much mayo. Much better than Zabars, Fairway, Sables.

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            dogen RE: food10011 Jan 8, 2009 11:27 AM

            There's another Chowhound thread on this topic you might check out:

            I checked out the Russ & Daughters whitefish salad last week. It's good, but I prefer the smokiness and texture of the Lobster Place version. Also, I could be wrong, but I think Russ & Daughters uses onion, which gives the salad a slightly astringent quality and reminds me, ever so slightly—forgive me, Russ enthusiasts—of tuna salad.

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              Simon RE: food10011 Jan 8, 2009 11:48 AM

              i just ate a bite of some whitefish salad from Whole Foods Columbus Circle: truly awful, like a combination of paste, cotton candy, and h.s. cafeteria scrod whipped into a bland mush...avoid...so bad i plan to return it...

              Russ&Daughters has always been my fav, but the store is alas far from my new neighborhood

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                david sprague RE: Simon Jan 10, 2009 01:29 PM

                oh my, yes.

                i am a big russ n daughters fan,m but needed to jet outta midtown fast the other day and picked up the whole foods version. one of rhe strangest, most unpleasant glop-fests ever.....

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                chow_gal RE: food10011 Jan 9, 2009 07:36 AM

                Barney Greengrass, UWS

                1. thew RE: food10011 Jan 9, 2009 07:55 AM

                  agata is good, also sables on 2nd ave & 78th st

                  bagel bob's used to have great whitefish - but they went belly up, and i dont mean belly lox

                  Sable's Smoked Fish
                  1489 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10021

                  Agata & Valentina
                  1505 1st Ave, New York, NY 10021

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                    jns7 RE: thew Feb 29, 2012 01:07 PM

                    Yes, love it at Sable's.

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                    valerie RE: food10011 Jan 9, 2009 08:05 AM

                    Another vote for Russ & Daughters. Love it.

                    1. JungMann RE: food10011 Jan 9, 2009 08:51 AM

                      You might like the whitefish at Murray's Sturgeon Shop. Both they and Barney Greengrass have the type of whitefish you're seeking, though I think they do it just a little better at Murray's.

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                        fishermb RE: JungMann Jan 10, 2009 07:58 AM

                        Sorry to scoot in on this thread, but does anyone know any bagel shops that will serve you a bagel with actual whitefish? I've had the sandwich at ess-a-bagel but it's not the most convenient for me. Most other places I've been (including Russ & Daughters) either only sell the actual fish, have it in salad form, or don't have it at all.

                        As far as the salad goes, my vote too would definitely be for R&D.

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                          small h RE: fishermb Jan 10, 2009 08:43 AM

                          Russ & Daughters sells sandwiches, as does Pick a Bagel.


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                            fishermb RE: small h Jan 12, 2009 08:41 AM

                            Every time I've gone to R&D and asked for a sandwich, they insist that they only sell the actual fish. They'll make a sandwich with the salad, but not a sandwich with the fish which is what I alluded to.

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                              small h RE: fishermb Jan 12, 2009 04:58 PM

                              I misunderstood you. Apologies. I checked the websites for Eli's, Zabar's & Grace's Marketplace (they all sell whitefish) - no definitive answers there. But maybe call those, if you haven't already?

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                                epicureanKat RE: fishermb Feb 28, 2012 03:30 PM

                                fishermb, I would recommend a Sable sandwich which may be a bit more but well worth the price. Smoked whitefish plain is a bit dry and salty. If you love smoked fish, a trip to Acme in Greenpoint will be well worth it.

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                                  Rmis32 RE: fishermb Apr 16, 2012 05:30 PM

                                  R&D's super hebe sandwich, with whitefish salad & wasabi flying fish roe is da bomb.

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                                    Rmis32 RE: Rmis32 Apr 16, 2012 05:34 PM

                                    correction: it's called the Super Heebster.

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                            maxinem RE: food10011 Jan 13, 2009 08:10 AM

                            Definitely Daniel's on 3rd Ave aboutn 38th Street--no celery and not much mayo--excellent!

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                              ellenost RE: maxinem Jan 13, 2009 10:14 AM

                              When I lived in Murray Hill (18 months ago), I loved Daniel's whitefish salad. Glad to hear it's still great.

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                              freshlycured RE: food10011 Apr 17, 2012 12:55 PM

                              I'm a whitefish salad lover/celery hater and really enjoyed the offering at Barney Greengrass. I don't remember if there was celery in there or not, but if there was, it only enhanced the flavor and texture.

                              1. ChefJune RE: food10011 Apr 17, 2012 01:16 PM

                                I really like the Whitefish Salad the fishmonger at the Union Square Greenmarket sells on Saturdays. I can't say if there's celery in it, but iif there is, it's unobtrusive.

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                                  serious RE: food10011 Apr 19, 2012 12:50 AM

                                  Hudson Bagels on Hudson at Christopher has great whitefish salad - the best in NY from my perspective. And their bagels are different and good and recommended.

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