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  <id>585484</id>
  <title>Bay Area Banh Mi Google Map</title>
  <published_at>Mon Jan 05 23:33:52 -0800 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>67</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>1</id>
    <name>San Francisco Bay Area</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>4299747</id>
        <content>

I had forgotten I started a Google Map for Banh Mi a la rworange's tour de force for everything under the sun maps.

Map is here:

http://tinyurl.com/BayAreaBanhMi

The goal is to make this post informational with "recommended" and "not recommended" sandwiches at everybody's favorite places and to get as many places as possible added to the map whether people have been or not.  There are so many places, and giant banh mi holes (like a lot of the peninsula) that it would be nice to have any place that has 'em on the map.  Anyone can edit the map, but hopefully people will just add places, and link them in this thread.

Other banh mi threads here:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/584656
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/334740
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/353630


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        <published_at>Mon Jan 05 23:33:52 -0800 2009</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>40489</id>
          <name>P. Punko</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4300754</id>
      <content>This is awesome!

I added one close to my work that I like (not as good as my favorites Dakao and Huong Lan but much better than Lees:
Thanh Huong
2593 Senter Road, San Jose

I also added one that has a great Buy 2 get 1 free price, but it seems you need to be lucky to get them when the baguettes are fresh, or else the bread tends to be dry:
Saigon's Bakery
953 McLaughlin Ave, San Jose

I made them green placemarks, I hope that's correct?
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      <published_at>Tue Jan 06 10:05:58 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10961</id>
        <name>Alice Patis</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4301571</id>
      <content>Awesome- thanks!  Once we have everything on there, I think I will try to determine "Chow recommended" places and change the color scheme later.  I'm hoping for some to magically appear in Redwood City or Palo Alto.  :)</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 06 13:43:28 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4300754</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4305539</id>
      <content>Very cool. I added BT Deli in Pinole. 

Supposedly Hometown Noodle in Rediwood City just added four kinds of Vietnamese sandwiches for $4.50 each: BBQ pork, beef, chicken, and vegetarian. It is not yet on their online menu and since i haven't been, I didn't add it. 
http://hometownnoodle.com/Menu.htm

That reminds me that there's a food I wanted to track in lists but I hate having to make a list public while I'm working on it. I was waiting till this was fixed on Chow, but maybe I'll go ahead and use Google maps for it. 

Kudos to you for being brave enough to use that collaborative thing. Do you get notified when someone adds something or do you have to check? 
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      <published_at>Wed Jan 07 15:47:42 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4301571</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10264</id>
        <name>rworange</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4305568</id>
      <content>I have to check.  I was trusting CHs to post here when they add.  I wish it had a notification feature.  The other way to do it is ask CH's to post in a thread but maintain control over the map so it doesn't get screwed up.  I will check out Hometown- the mid-Peninsula seems to be beyond the event horizon for Vietnamese sandwiches!  After the list goes a couple of weeks, I will alter the color scheme like I said for "Chowhound/P. Punko recommended" places.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 07 15:57:01 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4305539</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4305602</id>
      <content>couldn't figure out how to add on your map... can you add the following

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      <published_at>Wed Jan 07 16:10:38 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4305568</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17116</id>
        <name>kc72</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>4305733</id>
      <content>Just added.  I could swear B C Deli was on there before.  Weird.  To add places, just click "edit" on the map, then enter the address in the search window.  When the location comes up, click the icon for the pop-up window.  In the pop-up there will be a "save to my maps" feature, select "Vietnamese Sandwiches"</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 07 17:01:10 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4305602</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4306322</id>
      <content>OK, rw, I went tonight because I have never had a place that sells Banh mi this close to me, and here is the report:

Banh mi aren't on the main menu either, but the woman behind the counter said they have chicken, beef or pork.  I was charged $3.50 apiece for a beef and pork.

I don't want anyone to be disappointed, so I will be as accurate as possible and allow people to make their own conclusions.

First kudos to Hometown Noodle for having a website, nice pictures of dishes above the counter, a very clean restaurant and a menu with well described standard Vietnamese fare (fried and fresh rolls, multiple kinds, vermicelli noodle bowls (Bun), vermicelli plates (banh hoi), rice plates (for lunch), Pho beef noodle soup, Chicken noodle soup, Hu tieu noodle soup, some other sauteed dishes.

Banh mi weren't on the menu, and I wonder if they are just an add on because the ones they make are easy to throw together because of their normal menu.  I also wonder if they are using a "restaurant concept"

Banh mi came on what looked like Columbo rolls and not baguettes.  The meat was grilled to order so they took about 10 minutes.  They appear small but weighty.  

Mine didn't come with any mayo, but because the meet was freshly grilled, the steam softened the bread and there were meat juices that added some moistness.  There weren't a lot of veggies, but there were cucumbers, pickled carrot and daikon, and cilantro.  They didn't come with jalapeno, but I am sure you can ask for some.

The pros of the sandwich included the freshly grilled meat.  Pork was strongly marinated, tender, with five spice flavor and saltiness from fish sauce and a little bit sweet.  They put a lot of meat on, so while it looks small, it works out in the end.

The beef was in the form of two grilled beef onion rolls.  These tasted OK, and maybe were a little overcooked.  The reason for this is that the rolls were a lot of beef- a small center of onions and then three layers of beef.  Almost all beef.  Marinade wasn't as strong as on the pork. 

Basic summary:  I give points for a clean restaurant and friendly service.  The sandwiches were OK (disappointing if you have had the best, totally fine for what they are), and would be much improved simply by the use of a baguette.  It isn't a "go out of your way" place, but especially in this neighborhood, if you feel like you maybe should skip the carnitas tacos, or the delicious tortas from La Casita Chilanga up the street because you want something a little more healthy, these are an OK stopgap in the middle of the banh mi black hole that is the mid-Peninsula.

Attached photo is the beef onion banh mi.

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      <published_at>Wed Jan 07 20:53:43 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4305539</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4306338</id>
      <content>The grilled beef roll sandwich is one of my favorites at Cam Huong in Oakland.  Too bad this one didn't suit you.  From the picture, looks like the roll has been hollowed out nicely.  But it would be hard for me to give up mayo, maybe you can BYO?  (g)</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 07 21:04:43 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4306322</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10039</id>
        <name>Melanie Wong</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>4306386</id>
      <content>There was more beef here in two rolls than Cam Huong that puts three small ones, and had more grilled taste.  I like the Cam Huong (usually listed as a special) one a little better, but these had a little char that was nice.  I could only imagine how amazing a Vung Tau II beef roll would be on a sandwich.

Sadly, I am also addicted to mayo, but will definitely reiterate that the freshly grilled meat made the sandwich taste not too dry.  

I appreciate the top quality at the best places, but I'll support this place because they seem pretty nice and the place was clear, and she brought me some water and lime while I was waiting for my order.  Oh, of course the place was freezing. :(</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 07 21:29:33 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4306338</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>4309527</id>
      <content>Certainly thought about you when I swaddled my mom in a big down coat so we could go out to breakfast yesterday.

I'll suggest two for the North Bay, not great banh mi, but possibly the only game in town.  Would love to hear updates.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 08 19:19:40 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4306386</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10039</id>
        <name>Melanie Wong</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>8</level>
      <id>4316259</id>
      <content>Wait, they sell banh mi at Sunshine Bakery?  Why haven't I noticed this before?!  I usually stop by for some se&#241;orita bread.  I'll have to give it a try.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 11 11:27:34 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4309527</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>111417</id>
        <name>westcoaststyle</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4627118</id>
      <content>Man you wrote so much i just scanned a couple of words. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Apr 24 23:21:26 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4306322</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>285995</id>
        <name>anthonyucla</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4300784</id>
      <content>Thanks for doing this.  Wish there was one for taquerias :)

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      <published_at>Tue Jan 06 10:13:03 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>108661</id>
        <name>ceekskat</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4301320</id>
      <content>I added Saigon Bistro in Concord (this place is pretty good even though it's a bit on the expensive side) and Huong Tra in Richmond (I used to frequent this place when I worked in Richmond)... I don't know how to change it from blue to green, though.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 06 12:42:31 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4300784</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>111417</id>
        <name>westcoaststyle</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4301590</id>
      <content>Thanks, WCC!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 06 13:47:45 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4301320</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4301637</id>
      <content>Sushi Monster on Taquerias in Redwood City:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/535387

Redwood City Taqueria Map:
http://tinyurl.com/RedwoodCitytacos

Oakland Taco Trucks from rworange:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/450404

Map:
http://tinyurl.com/OaklandTacoTrucks
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      <published_at>Tue Jan 06 13:56:01 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4301320</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4303143</id>
      <content>I was going to add Saigon Bistro myself, I love that place.  $3.75 is totally worth it for their quality banh mi, especially since the gas required to try to go somewhere that might be better woiuld cost more than the sandwich if you live in the Concord/WC area.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 07 01:34:04 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4301320</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>23588</id>
        <name>Ozumo</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4342463</id>
      <content>Siagon Bistro banh mi are $4.50 now :( Is it really the only Bahn Mi place around there? I was really surprised at the prices. Fish cake(tod mun-like), one, 5 inches in diameter, was around 7, 2 fresh rolls were close to 6. Two Bahn mi, fish cake and fresh rolls, 24$!!! Next time I go for a picnic in that area, I will drop into Cam Huong here in Oakland &amp; schlepp em' out!

I miss Them Ky's deal, buy four get fifth free. Do they still do it? I think they were $1.50 when I first got them there. I'd drive from Main &amp; Folsom all the way to the Tenderloin for the weekly office pickup. YUM.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 20 14:57:10 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4303143</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14087</id>
        <name>mmerino</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4352984</id>
      <content>FYI in WC there is R&amp;J Noodle Place:
1479 Newell Ave.
Walnut Creek, CA 94596

decent banh mi but yes, also at Suburban prices! but around these parts beggars can't be choosers i guess.

Also, Ao Zai Bistro Express on San Ramon Blvd (near intersection of Crow Canyon ) in SR has also started selling banh mi &amp; pho. Had one last week; sandwich fillings seemed high quality but bread wasn't super-crusty like i enjoy it. $3.75 for most versions.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 24 00:24:50 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4342463</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19941</id>
        <name>pushslice</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>4352992</id>
      <content>Links, and added to the map- thanks!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 24 00:35:03 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4352984</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>4353591</id>
      <content>Thank You!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 24 09:18:29 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4352984</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14087</id>
        <name>mmerino</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>4439746</id>
      <content>UPDATE: 
1) it appears Ao Zai Bistro Express has closed! well that didn't last long...shame.  but the 'regular' Ao Zai restaurant nextdoor is still open. 

2) was at Le Asia supermarket on Alcosta Blvd in Dublin and noticed this sign along the food court end of the store. so perhaps a "Pending" pin on the banh mi map!!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 21 14:51:52 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4352984</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19941</id>
        <name>pushslice</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>5136528</id>
      <content>FYIs, the Banh Mi shop @ Le Asia supermarket-Dublin has been open now for a few weeks.  Solid product, decent size &amp; quantity of filling, to go w/ a typically suburban price of $3.55 per sandwich.  Nothing extraordinary. Considering the distance of my other options, though, I'll gladly take it.  They have a special which is buy-3-get-1-free also, which is handy. Plus the location inside the supermarket is a no-brainer; it's impossible for me to resist picking up a sandwich to munch on while doing my grocery shopping....</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 28 00:05:21 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4439746</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19941</id>
        <name>pushslice</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>8</level>
      <id>5196953</id>
      <content>Arrghh...it with a heavy heart that I must report that this banh mi outlet has *closed*!  it was only open for such a short time! That makes the 2nd place I've had to do this for on this thread.  Am I a jinx?  Or just the victim of living in suburbia?? Whyyyyyyyyyyy can't there be a good dependable banh mi place close to me?? </content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 20 13:32:36 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5136528</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19941</id>
        <name>pushslice</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4301588</id>
      <content>Sushi Monster has one for Redwood City Taquerias and rworange has one for Taco trucks along Fruitvale and International.  I'll try to find and link in this post.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 06 13:47:22 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4300784</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4301648</id>
      <content>I added Huong Lan in Newark and Jenjon's Cafe in Union City</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 06 14:00:19 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11940</id>
        <name>DezzerSF</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4301761</id>
      <content>link</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 06 14:33:56 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4301648</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4305597</id>
      <content>Adding three places upper peninsula</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 07 16:08:43 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4305661</id>
      <content>Sooo, does blue v. green flags mean anything, i.e. recommended v. not recommended?</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 07 16:36:43 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>123941</id>
        <name>kimchee411</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4305723</id>
      <content>It says on the map- but it might be hard to notice.  For now, blue is places I have been, green is places I have not.  This will change once I go through most of the posts and get some recommended out- since there are places that have no reports, I don't want it to appear that they aren't recommended when there is no information on them.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 07 16:57:44 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4305661</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4309946</id>
      <content>Adding:

Forgot about Java Source.  A coffee shop on Clement that seems to be dominated by an outside seating area filled with Asian men smoking, reading newspapers, etc.  They had a number of different banh mi offerings.  I got a sandwich but ended up giving it to my friend because I was full.  I have to admit that it didn't smell that wonderful.  

I haven't been to the rest of the places here in the Richmond (SF), hope we get some reports.  Have found these by Googling, so it would be nice to know if they do exist. Most have recent reviews on other sites.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 08 23:11:11 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4309965</id>
      <content>More places, many in the Sunset, one in the Haight, one in the Castro.

Many don't have Chow Links, so mentions might be old or non-existent on this board, but they all seem to have Yelp mentions. It would be nice to get some recent takes on these places.  There's a lot more banh mi in the city than I had previously thought.

Irving Cafe and Desserts is listed as "Sweety Cafe" elsewhere and does not seem to be the same as Irving Cafe and Deli down the block.


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      <published_at>Thu Jan 08 23:34:49 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4309981</id>
      <content>There are quite a few cafes in the Tenderloin that make traditional banh mi that aren't on anyone's radar.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 08 23:46:57 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4309965</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10039</id>
        <name>Melanie Wong</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4309992</id>
      <content>I was just looking those up!

More places in Tenderloin, and two more in Chinatown in addition to the already mentioned/mapped (links to my initially mapped will be added tomorrow).

My friend gave a positive notice about Them Ky on Ellis.

Little Paris in Chinatown was OK.  I think I felt like they didn't have a lot on them, but this was only my second experience ever with Banh mi, so I'd need to go back.




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      <published_at>Fri Jan 09 00:06:18 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4309981</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4314913</id>
      <content>Them Ky is a full-service restaurant.  I was thinking more along the lines of the little coffee shops that just sell banh mi and Vietnamese coffee early in the morning.

I went by Kim Huong in the Tenderloin yesterday.  But a woman came out and yelled at me for taking a photo of the cafe's sign without asking her permission first.  So, I'll leave it to someone else to check out.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 10 17:42:22 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4309992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10039</id>
        <name>Melanie Wong</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4310019</id>
      <content>Links for places initially mapped.  I feel like I might end up getting compelled to pull a Sushi Monster on these places, but it might not be fair.  I usually only try the pork, beef or chicken varieties.  Maybe we'll just be able to get at least one report for every one of these places in a community effort.

Most of my takes are here:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/334740

Of the places I've been in the South Bay, I prefer Kim's because it has a nice family atmosphere, and I'm convinced they recognize me (or maybe they are just super nice).  An update from my first visit which is detailed in my giant post 
(http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/334740) is that Kim's has both BBQ and grilled pork (called "charcoaled").  Football style baguette rolls with scoopage (like Cam Huong in Oakland and Union City.



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      <published_at>Fri Jan 09 00:37:29 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4310727</id>
      <content>Thanks Punko, you are awesome for doing this! ;)</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 09 08:47:03 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4310019</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>111417</id>
        <name>westcoaststyle</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4323797</id>
      <content>I haven't been to this place, but I'm adding it to the map- a little Vietnamese Deli next to Vung Tau II in Milpitas (in the Lion plaza).


</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 13 17:45:59 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4324406</id>
      <content>There've been past reports of banh mi in Sonoma County at Lee's Noodle House and Thang Long.

An informant in the Tri-Valley says that Pho Asian Bistro has sandwiches . . . but they won't make you forget Cam Huong.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 13 22:47:26 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10039</id>
        <name>Melanie Wong</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4325500</id>
      <content>I can&#8217;t really recommend the Silver Creek Road Kim Huong (darn since it&#8217;s the closest to my work).  

I tried the bi (shredded pork/skin) and sa siu (sliced roast pork), $2.50 each, pics below. The meat is a bit skimpy, the roll a bit soft (one roll had a faint semblance of crisp crust, the other was just chewy-soft).  No pate, only 4 meats to choose from (the other 2 were cold cuts and shredded dried pork).

What I really don&#8217;t like is that the banh mi is assembled by the ladies in the back, so the counter man calls out each order (and each custom request) to them through the opening in the wall.  This gets repeated while the ladies are making the banh mi to confirm any custom requests, then again when the ladies hand the banh mi to the counter man to bag up.  The order before mine (no butter, no cilantro) got called out back &amp; forth no less than 4 times (per person).  I decided to keep mine simple by saying &#8220;with everything&#8221;.  Which really p-ed me off when I got back to work, opened up my sa siu and saw no butter, no cilantro.  

Other prepared foods on the tables, but no labels, no prices. Fridges are kind of bare. The banh gio which is their store name&#8217;s subtitle look smaller than other delis. One positive note is their banh trung (sticky rice tet cakes) look humongous, at $9 might be a good deal (no idea how they taste).  

I fixed the spelling &amp; moved the marker to the actual storefront on the Google map.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 14 09:38:32 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10961</id>
        <name>Alice Patis</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4327912</id>
      <content>Oh yes- I went inside to check this place out a couple of months ago, but as we had just stuffed ourselves at Thien Long (next door or two doors down in the same complex) we didn't get anything.  I can say that I didn't have high hopes- they didn't seem to be too hopping.  That is unfortunate.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 15 02:24:21 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4325500</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4333939</id>
      <content>Point of clarification, when you say "butter" are you referring to the homemade mayonnaise (eggs and oil) combined with Maggi, soy sauce or fish sauce, which I've heard called "Vietnamese butter"?</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 16 23:55:40 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4325500</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10039</id>
        <name>Melanie Wong</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4335411</id>
      <content>I heard the other customer request "no butter, no cucumber" in Vietnamese.  He used the word beurre which the Vietnamese use as the vietnamese word for butter.  The counter man and ladies in the back used the word beurre as well when they shouted it back &amp; forth.  I think they were referring to whatever the "spread" was.  Actually, I've seen (&amp; tasted) some banh mi places that use a margarine-like spread.  I could hardly taste the spread in my banh mi bi so I can't tell you if it was mayo-like or margarine-like.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 17 17:54:48 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4333939</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10961</id>
        <name>Alice Patis</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4327911</id>
      <content>RECOMMEND for Hoang Dat from Melanie Wong:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/588039

Adding to map</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 15 02:19:03 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4337287</id>
      <content>Added to map,

More traditional, off path banh mi shops in the SF Tenderloin, from Melanie Wong:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/588771

Hoang Dat, Tu Kim, Sing Sing (see location tagged in sidebar or above, or linked below) seem to be the recommends of this group.

Of those not already added:


</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 18 16:07:06 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4327911</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4337293</id>
      <content>Adding to map, Lan Huong- just down the street from Dakao in San Jose.  Didn't have time to go inside, but does not look like the "Huong Lan" chain.  Sign just says "Huong Sandiwches"- anybody been?

</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 18 16:11:37 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4386557</id>
      <content>I just remembered I've been to Lan Huong, on a day I had a short lunch break during a Convention.  I don't remember much except it was just ok, and that I wished I had gone a block further to Dakao.  Their banh beo (steamed rice flour cakes) were a better bet and might be house made.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Feb 04 08:26:19 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4337293</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10961</id>
        <name>Alice Patis</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4340375</id>
      <content>Oakland addition to map, from George adding directly to Google Map- he has it as "Pho Ga Huong Que Cafe"- same location as below.  Don't think it has been mentioned on CH yet.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 19 19:05:59 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4340658</id>
      <content>No, no mention about their Banh Mi, but their Pho Ga is one of my favorites. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/473448</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 19 21:33:14 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4340375</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11940</id>
        <name>DezzerSF</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4382474</id>
      <content>This afternoon I was at Thanh Thuy Deli, a banh mi shop in a mini-mall on the southwest corner of 12th Street and 8th Avenue in East Oakland.  They have about a dozen sandwiches including a deep-fried fish and an omelette.  The picture of the omelette banh mi had two sunny-side eggs in it, double the number of yolks that another Oakland shop has in its banh mi.  Prices are about $2.50 to $2.75.

What did catch my eye was a $3 special, banh mi bo kho (beef stew).  Ordered it to go and got a covered take-out container with carrots, jalapenos, cilantro and 6 or 7 medium-sized pieces of fatty beef in about 2 oz. of a sweetish cinnamon/star anise-flavored broth.  Separately, there was an unsliced French roll.  I didn't do a very good job of piecing everything together when I got home and the trip back was kind of traumatic for the carton so that it wouldn't be fair to pass judgment without going back and eating in.

The shop had a small table outside and a couple of 30" round counters next to the wall.

I haven't added it the Google map and a search for Thanh Thuy on CH didn't turn up anything.  If anybody is in that area, let me know what you think.

Thanh Thuy Deli
745 E. 12th Street
Oakland, CA 94606
tel: 510-836-1212

Hours: Mon-Sat: 6 am - 6 pm
Sun:7am - 3pm</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 02 21:17:50 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10689</id>
        <name>zippo</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4382654</id>
      <content>Thanks, zippo.  Added to map.

Also, that stew is how it comes, it just isn't a sandwich- it is a baguette with some stew (or that is how it looks when it is pictured on a menu at a bunch of places that have it).  it is confusing because it has the words "banh mi" but I guess I don't know it those words mean sandwich- I wonder if they mean "with bread" or something like that?

The deep fried fish sounds pretty good.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 02 23:40:39 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4382474</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4382670</id>
      <content>A Vietnamese friend told me that banh mi means the same as min bao in Cantonese, namely wheat flour bread.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 02 23:55:18 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4382654</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10039</id>
        <name>Melanie Wong</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4384548</id>
      <content>B&#225;nh m&#236; basically means a Vietnamese baguette made with wheat and rice flour.  So yes, it basically just means this certain type of bread.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 03 13:50:23 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4382670</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>111417</id>
        <name>westcoaststyle</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4627109</id>
      <content>Banh mi means Bread in vietnamese.
Banh mi thit nguoi means Bread cold cuts meat.
Banh mi bo ko is what she ordered means bread beef stew, which is the costliest of all Banh mi, and only the cool men eat those along with their caphe su den, and a cigarrette. It's like French Onion Soup with bread, u dip the bread in the soup duh..  She's probably not cool or manly enough, so better to stick with the sandwiches.

The best banh mi bo ko is on Bolsa Street close to Magnolia St, in Little Saigon, Santa Ana.  All they sell is Beef Stew with bread.  You know its good when there is just one item on the menu and a bunch of old men camping at the tables playing chess, gambling their retirement away.
</content>
      <published_at>Fri Apr 24 23:11:11 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4382654</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>285995</id>
        <name>anthonyucla</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4384585</id>
      <content>Close to my office downtown is Cafe Dolci.  I'm a big fan of their vegetarian bahn mi with tofu.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 03 14:03:43 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>39545</id>
        <name>tatertot</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4385370</id>
      <content>Lee's Noodle House
1010 Hopper Ave
Santa Rosa, CA 95403
707-523-2358
http://leesnoodlehouse.com/Menu.htm
</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 03 18:25:44 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>150398</id>
        <name>Columba</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4396691</id>
      <content>Added Cafe Dolci and Lee's Noodle House to map- thanks!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 07 15:23:02 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4385370</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4516959</id>
      <content>Banh Mi Ba Le at 1909 International Blvd, Oakland

Eel Banh Mi (Banh Mi Luon), $2.75 
    Not listed on their overhead menus but  the roll is #14 in the sandwich section of their postcard-size paper menu.
    A crispy roll with pan-fried or broiled eel , julienned carrots, onions, cilantro, mayo, jalape&#241;os.  There's black and white pepper on the eel as well as a slightly sweet, hoisin-like brown sauce.  The eel was soft and fresh, not fishy or muddy tasting.  After looking at some pictures of the bbq eel banh mi at Sea Salt, the eel pieces in the Ba Le version were smaller and there's less total eel. I liked the sandwich and will order it again.

I don't know if the other Ba Le shops carry the eel sandwich.  Also, the Ba Le location at 1500 International Blvd., which had been closed for some time has been reopened as of a few weeks ago.  It's open every day except Wednesday and I don't know if they sell everything that their larger location at 1909 Int'l does.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 18 12:25:11 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10689</id>
        <name>zippo</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4517353</id>
      <content>What a great tip ... and so much less expensive than Sea Salt. Will have to try it. 

Has anyone tried the bahn mi at Boston Cafe at Van Ness and Market? They are supposed to have a good won ton soup for $3 as well. 
http://www.chow.com/places/47961</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 18 14:02:40 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4516959</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10264</id>
        <name>rworange</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4517372</id>
      <content>Muffins Muffins offers bahn mi but the vegetarian one is only so-so.  They offer about 4-5 different kinds and cost around $4.  It's close to my office so I'll get one when the craving strikes.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 18 14:08:09 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>39545</id>
        <name>tatertot</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4518351</id>
      <content>Pho Asian Bistro in Dublin has banh mi.  They have a full menu (apps, pho, rice plates, noodle bowls, desserts) with beef, chicken, and pork banh mi ($3.95).  We really like this place.  It's in the Hacienda Center with Best Buy and the 21 theaters.  Here's a link to the Contra Costa Times review.  They liked it.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/entertainment/ci_11398064

Pho Asian Bistro
4920 Dublin Blvd  Dublin, CA 94568
www.phoasianbistro.com</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 18 21:37:49 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4517372</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85631</id>
        <name>chow_eb</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4649285</id>
      <content>Please add new one in Pleasanton:

Pho Minh (previously known as Swenson's Pho)
1991 Santa Rita Rd Ste. A
(at Morganfield Rd)
Pleasanton, CA 94566
(925) 249-9312
www.pho-minh.com 

They just started serving Banh Mi as of May 1st 2009.  Price is about $3.50.  If you are coming after lunch, please call ahead if they still have it; supposedly it's only available during lunch time.
</content>
      <published_at>Sat May 02 21:18:46 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>42129</id>
        <name>Mul</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4649403</id>
      <content>link </content>
      <published_at>Sat May 02 22:41:02 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4649285</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10264</id>
        <name>rworange</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4670132</id>
      <content>Added.</content>
      <published_at>Sat May 09 23:01:16 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4649285</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40489</id>
        <name>P. Punko</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5033089</id>
      <content>Schlomo's Banh Mi truck, a Cushman three-wheeler like meter maids use, usually in the Mission District of SF.  Anyone seen it?
Link to article in Thrillist:
http://www.thrillist.com/san-francisco/schlomos-banh-mi-cushman

his Twitter:
http://twitter.com/BanhMiSF


</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 15 20:16:47 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10689</id>
        <name>zippo</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5033357</id>
      <content>He was at Dolores Park the other day on Dolores very close to the tennis courts.  I didn't get a taste. By the time I walked by he was packing up, though I did see plenty of the folks on the hill chowing down on banh mi.  No doubt he'll hit that spot again.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 16 00:38:44 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5033089</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>94323</id>
        <name>wanderlust21</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5105985</id>
      <content>Just added Pho Cali Pho Nia on San Bruno &amp; Silver Ave. in San Francisco.  I tried the banh mi after seeing a sign outside advertising it and it was pretty good!  The bread is light and delicate inside and is wispy like a cloud when you tear it with a nice thin crispy toasted crust outside.  The meats were flavorful and generous, though not knock-your-socks-off good (I tried thit nuong and cha lua).  The veggies were fine but the carrots were too finely shredded for my tastes, radish was used sparingly, both pickled veggies could've used more zing, and I would've liked more chiles, but overall definitely solid for my local go-to shop.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 15 13:02:15 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4299747</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>123941</id>
        <name>kimchee411</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
